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James Nikolas Tesla
The True Patriots of New Eden
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Posted - 2014.09.04 10:29:00 -
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I've used two of these people and have received no return even though their API shows they sent money to me. The amount I lost is of no concern to me I just want to confirm whether or not you really can not trust anything in EVE. - |
DJentropy Ovaert
The Conference Elite CODE.
946
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Posted - 2014.09.04 10:30:00 -
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James Nikolas Tesla wrote:I've used two of these people and have received no return even though their API shows they sent money to me. The amount I lost is of no concern to me I just want to confirm whether or not you really can not trust anything in EVE.
You can trust most everything in EVE. How much did they take you for? Simply send me 25% of whatever you lost in game as a show of good faith, and I will gladly replace your loss.
Ethical ISK doubling = best ISK doubling! |
Derrick Miles
EVENumbers
5253
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Posted - 2014.09.04 10:31:00 -
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How did their API show that they sent money to you? |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
24422
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Posted - 2014.09.04 10:32:00 -
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As legitimate as any. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skillplan 2.2. |
Velicitia
Arma Artificer
2628
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Posted - 2014.09.04 10:36:00 -
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You can trust people ... but you can only extend that trust so far.
In general "Can I walk/drive to their house, and beat the tar out of them when they screw me over" is a good indicator of how much trust you can give someone. One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia |
Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
4614
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Posted - 2014.09.04 10:55:00 -
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the eve litmus test : give me your isk.
the correct response: LOL no
you fail. =][= |
heheheh
Phoenix Club
4
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Posted - 2014.09.04 11:02:00 -
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About as legit as this guy
http://www.welovetheiraqiinformationminister.com/images/07-minister.jpg |
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
20699
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Posted - 2014.09.04 11:04:00 -
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If it looks too good to be true it's a scam, If it looks legit, it's probably a scam that you haven't spotted yet.
Double check everything. Then check it again.
Getting rolled by an isk doubler is the least of your worries The difference between a carebear and a bear is that one expects the world to revolve around them, the other accepts the world for what it is and works around it.
Nil mortifi sine lucre. |
Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
4616
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Posted - 2014.09.04 11:09:00 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:If it looks too good to be true it's a scam, If it looks legit, it's probably a scam that you haven't spotted yet. Double check everything. Then check it again. Getting rolled by an isk doubler is the least of your worries If you think it's a bad scam you can take advantage of, it's a really good scam.
Unless they gave you their api key and you checked yourself it's a scam. =][= |
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
20699
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Posted - 2014.09.04 11:13:00 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:If it looks too good to be true it's a scam, If it looks legit, it's probably a scam that you haven't spotted yet. Double check everything. Then check it again. Getting rolled by an isk doubler is the least of your worries If you think it's a bad scam you can take advantage of, it's a really good scam. Unless they gave you their api key and you checked yourself it's a scam. Should we tell him about some of the interesting things you can do with the market interface to relieve him of his isk?
The difference between a carebear and a bear is that one expects the world to revolve around them, the other accepts the world for what it is and works around it.
Nil mortifi sine lucre. |
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Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
4616
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Posted - 2014.09.04 11:14:00 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:If it looks too good to be true it's a scam, If it looks legit, it's probably a scam that you haven't spotted yet. Double check everything. Then check it again. Getting rolled by an isk doubler is the least of your worries If you think it's a bad scam you can take advantage of, it's a really good scam. Unless they gave you their api key and you checked yourself it's a scam. Should we tell him about some of the interesting things you can do with the market interface to relieve him of his isk? Oh now I'm curious. =][= |
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
20700
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Posted - 2014.09.04 11:16:00 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:If it looks too good to be true it's a scam, If it looks legit, it's probably a scam that you haven't spotted yet. Double check everything. Then check it again. Getting rolled by an isk doubler is the least of your worries If you think it's a bad scam you can take advantage of, it's a really good scam. Unless they gave you their api key and you checked yourself it's a scam. Should we tell him about some of the interesting things you can do with the market interface to relieve him of his isk? Oh now I'm curious. I worded it wrong, check the edit. I'm referring to scamming via the market, ie margin trading, price fixing, dodgy contracts based on jacked prices or buy orders etc.
I went back and read it, and thought that looks dodgy as hell, not good. The difference between a carebear and a bear is that one expects the world to revolve around them, the other accepts the world for what it is and works around it.
Nil mortifi sine lucre. |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
12824
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Posted - 2014.09.04 11:24:00 -
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What reason do they have to double your ISK in the first place? But no, they're note legitimate, none of them are.
/c
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Hengle Teron
Mew Age Outpaws
123
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Posted - 2014.09.04 11:27:00 -
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wait ISK doublers are not legit ??? |
Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
4616
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Posted - 2014.09.04 11:27:00 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:I worded it wrong, check the edit. I'm referring to scamming via the market, ie margin trading, price fixing, dodgy contracts based on jacked prices or buy orders etc.
I went back and read it, and thought that looks dodgy as hell, not good. ah, thought there might have been something i wasent aware of. i dont see the harm in it (other than to the scammers, though its not like the are short on greedy morons clients to deal with) =][= |
Grog Aftermath
Need more grog
82
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Posted - 2014.09.04 11:33:00 -
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How could isk doublers be legit, if they were legit they would run out of isk.
Also what would be the purpose of giving away isk in this fashion, if they were leaving the game they wouldn't bother with isk doubling.
Isk doubling is a scam, it can be nothing else. You may get small amounts doubled, but that's to try and add credibility to the scam, but you won't get large amounts back. Although you might hear some of their mates/alts claiming that they did. |
Victor Andall
742
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Posted - 2014.09.04 11:35:00 -
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Ahahahahhahahaahhahaahhahahaha, this guy! I just undocked for the first time and someone challenged me to a duel. Wat do?
19.08.2014 - Dinsdale gets slammed by CCP Falcon. Never forget. |
Ka'Narlist
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
204
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Posted - 2014.09.04 11:36:00 -
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Grog Aftermath wrote:How could isk doublers be legit, if they were legit they would run out of isk.
They could keep buying plex |
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
3792
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Posted - 2014.09.04 11:37:00 -
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James Nikolas Tesla wrote:I've used two of these people and have received no return even though their API shows they sent money to me. The amount I lost is of no concern to me I just want to confirm whether or not you really can not trust anything in EVE.
Let me guess:
To see 'their API', they sent you to a website, which 'shows' their wallet, with isk coming in and out.
It's a trifle more involved than some ISK scams, but it's still a scam. They control the site, and what shows up on it. Including faked transfers.
If they actually gave you the full api key and code, and you looked at it on api.eveonline.com, that would be legit. anything else can be manipulated.
Nothing player related is entirely legitimate. There are people out there you can probably trust, but they could still turn round and steal from you. Chribba, for example, acts as a Trusted Third Party for super cap sales. He has a reason to not scam you, as it would harm his business. But he still could. Woo! CSM 9! http://fuzzwork.enterprises/ Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter |
Misty Allure
University of Caille Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2014.09.04 11:37:00 -
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Grog Aftermath wrote:How could isk doublers be legit, if they were legit they would run out of isk...
No, they make their money off the people that can't follow instructions properly. Gah, don't you know anything? |
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Grog Aftermath
Need more grog
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Posted - 2014.09.04 11:42:00 -
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Misty Allure wrote:Grog Aftermath wrote:How could isk doublers be legit, if they were legit they would run out of isk...
No, they make their money off the people that can't follow instructions properly. Gah, don't you know anything?
I've never fallen for a scam in this game. Doesn't matter how it's worded, if someone gave 3 billion to someone for them to double, they wouldn't get it back. |
Wacktopia
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
689
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Posted - 2014.09.04 12:36:00 -
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Misty Allure wrote:Grog Aftermath wrote:How could isk doublers be legit, if they were legit they would run out of isk...
No, they make their money off the people that can't follow instructions properly. Gah, don't you know anything?
Oh yeah that's right! When you forget to end your amount in an odd number, and end it with .01, and do a twirl, enter the bonus room and sing a Mary Poppins song - that's where they make there money. Mark my words! Kitchen sink? Seriousy, get your ship together - -áFleet-Up.com |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
6849
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Posted - 2014.09.04 12:45:00 -
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I have also heard that gambling is a great no risk way to make money
Is this true? "Many have joined the battle, many have survived the tests and trials, but countless have fallen because they weren't the sharpest, the fastest thinking, the most devious, the most ruthless or most intelligent. -áLog in and Compete!"-á- CCP Falcon
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Belt Scout
Thread Lockaholics Anonymous
693
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Posted - 2014.09.04 12:59:00 -
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My advise to Op. Get out of station, stop paying attention to the trash in local, and go have fun in space. There's so many other players already in space that want you to have fun killing them. (or trying to)
Don't waste time with scammers and you'll find out how much fun EvE really can be.
. They say most of your brain shuts down on the EvE forums. All but the impatient side, and the sarcastic side. No wonder I'm still awake. |
Absolutely Not Analt
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
32
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Posted - 2014.09.04 13:35:00 -
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Here are a list of opther common things you might see in local that are absolutely not true:
1. Willing to pay 2.9 billion for a plex, but only if you use this contract I just linked. Red Flag: If you have 2.9 billion in escrow on the contract, why don't you just cancel the contract and buy a plex? I have no idea why people fall for this.
2. The subsidized ships scam. It works like this, someone posts a set of links to contracts for, by example, Imperial Navy Slicers for 1 million ISK, saying it's been subsidized by the Good Samaritan Company of Eve (or some such nonsense). Two of the links are to contracts that are already done, and they look good, 1 million each - better hurry and grab that last contract! Except it's for a billion isk, not a million. Lesson: Read every contract twice. Then reread it. COUNT THE ZEROES! If you smell anything even the slightest bit fishy, move along.
3. Margin Trading. Someone mentioned this scam earlier but basically it depends on you not having a thorough knowledge of the market for the items you are trying to make a quick profit on. No one buys things for three times the going rate. NO ONE. Rule #1 in Eve. If it's too good to be true or the deal of the century or makes you think "I'm gonna make more money thn Scrooge McDuck!", it's a scam of some sort and you are about to lose your pants. You can usually spot these in local as the "LOL Market trading while drunk wish I had the ISK" bots
4. Station Trading. Do not ever do this unless you are trading to an alt (one of your own). If someone tells you they can't do a contract for something, run, do not walk, the **** away.
5. ISK Doubling: Yeah, you got a handle on this one already.
6. Trust NO ONE in Eve with your ISK or assets. Do not trust me, do not trust your corp (past the point necessary to be in a corp), do not trust the happy guy who tells you he can get you into Goons for 500 million ISK. Hell, I don't even trust my own alts. There is exactly one person in Eve you can trust - Chribba, Lord of the Veldspar, Bearer of all Things, Captain of the Mighty Veldnaught. He you can trust*.
*Until he finally decides to end this ten year long con he's running and scamper to the hills with everything in the game that isn't nailed down. Eve is a multi player game.-áAnd you are the content. - Ralph King-Griffin |
Cyniac
Twilight Star Rangers
229
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Posted - 2014.09.04 13:54:00 -
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Absolutely Not Analt wrote: I don't even trust my own alts.
This.
When you have reached this level of paranoia - you are close to where you need to be to thrive in EVE. |
Anize Oramara
EVE Protection Agency Bloodline.
278
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Posted - 2014.09.04 14:06:00 -
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Cyniac wrote:Absolutely Not Analt wrote: I don't even trust my own alts. This. When you have reached this level of paranoia - you are close to where you need to be to thrive in EVE. You might think this is a joke but alts are sneaky motherfuckers.
people use alts named close to known private or public characters or freighting companies to nab courier or other contracts. |
Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
4626
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Posted - 2014.09.04 14:09:00 -
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Anize Oramara wrote:Cyniac wrote:Absolutely Not Analt wrote: I don't even trust my own alts. This. When you have reached this level of paranoia - you are close to where you need to be to thrive in EVE. You might think this is a joke but alts are sneaky motherfuckers. never fall asleep in the same station as one, im not naturally bald =][= |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
6857
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Posted - 2014.09.04 14:12:00 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Anize Oramara wrote:Cyniac wrote:Absolutely Not Analt wrote: I don't even trust my own alts. This. When you have reached this level of paranoia - you are close to where you need to be to thrive in EVE. You might think this is a joke but alts are sneaky motherfuckers. never fall asleep in the same station as one, im not naturally bald
My alts get pissy when I gank em
And they seem to believe IM the alt
losers "Many have joined the battle, many have survived the tests and trials, but countless have fallen because they weren't the sharpest, the fastest thinking, the most devious, the most ruthless or most intelligent. -áLog in and Compete!"-á- CCP Falcon
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Vyl Vit
729
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Posted - 2014.09.04 17:47:00 -
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James Nikolas Tesla wrote:I've used two of these people and have received no return even though their API shows they sent money to me. The amount I lost is of no concern to me I just want to confirm whether or not you really can not trust anything in EVE. Please. Your name is Tesla. Use some intelligence.
Anyone with any sense has already left town. |
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