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Cefte
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.27 16:01:00 -
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In a large corporation or alliance, policing the membership can be difficult. It is however, a neccessity to do so, despite such difficulty, to ensure a base standard of decency and discourse.
After discussions among our leadership, a single member has been deemed to have broken the very low levels of decency we require our people to maintain. His roles have been removed, and he will be ejected from his corporation when the timer is completed.
Thank you for your attention.
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Jingu Himiko
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Posted - 2006.07.27 16:02:00 -
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what happen
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CaptainButts
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.27 16:03:00 -
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oh jesus christ ___________________________________________ if you think what a lil old bee like me posts is any official manifestation of corporate or director policies you're pretty dumb or something |
Angelus X
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.07.27 16:05:00 -
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SirMolle
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.07.27 16:06:00 -
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To little, to late.
Goodbye.
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Fred0
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2006.07.27 16:06:00 -
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Awwwww... This is a really cute way of trying to get out of a ****storm. Even cuter considering you are trying to change minds after 6months of backing the guy up.
So tell us. Was it allies withdrawing support or was it new enemies that made up your mind for you?
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NAFnist
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Posted - 2006.07.27 16:07:00 -
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Turiya Flesharrower
Beagle Corp
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Posted - 2006.07.27 16:10:00 -
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Could someone please explain what this is all about? Who was kicked, why were they kicked (exactly) and why does this impact on Goonswarm's standings with BoB? -----
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Ridoc
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Posted - 2006.07.27 16:10:00 -
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Refreshing forum and 3 new Goon threads. Is this neccessary?
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Stamm
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.07.27 16:10:00 -
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Originally by: Jingu Himiko what happen
I realise I'm replying to an alt post, and it's likely to get moderated...
However it's pertinant to the thread even if the alt post is removed.
This relates to this thread which starts out in very good spirits, but continue reading and you'll see the reasons.
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Acwron
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.27 16:11:00 -
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Well the problem is that this kind of behaviour seems to be systematic in Goonfleet (especially given Remedials actions).
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Inanna Sumer
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.27 16:11:00 -
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Edited by: Inanna Sumer on 27/07/2006 16:12:57
Originally by: Stamm
Originally by: Jingu Himiko what happen
I realise I'm replying to an alt post, and it's likely to get moderated...
However it's pertinant to the thread even if the alt post is removed.
This relates to this thread which starts out in very good spirits, but continue reading and you'll see the reasons.
That's a main, but he should probably identify himself.
Originally by: Ridoc Refreshing forum and 3 new Goon threads. Is this neccessary?
Goon threads are the new BoB threads, didn't you get the memo?
Originally by: Acwron Well the problem is that this kind of behaviour seems to be systematic in Goonfleet (especially given Remedials actions).
Please generalise some more, there are over 2000 members in Goon(Fleet|Waffe), and all you see are the actions of a tiny fraction of them. --------------------------------------------
My views and opinions in this post are my own and in no way reflect those of my corporation or alliance. |
Micfu
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Posted - 2006.07.27 16:12:00 -
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If its after getting the attention of Sirmolle, It cant have been good..
So long Goonswarm.
o/
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grizouh
SteelVipers YouWhat
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Posted - 2006.07.27 16:14:00 -
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roflmao cefte
do we really have to qoute where several goons stated its their kind of humour concerning the jokes about smoske?
and you may ask remedial bout the joke in the stationsinfo he did after conquering our station for the first time which had been dedicated to one of our members which died in an accident, too.
this statement has been prolly the worst you have ever given.
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Harald Sworddew
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.27 16:15:00 -
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Edited by: Harald Sworddew on 27/07/2006 16:15:19
Originally by: Turiya Flesharrower Could someone please explain what this is all about? Who was kicked, why were they kicked (exactly) and why does this impact on Goonswarm's standings with BoB?
Start your reading here.
edit: Woops, wrong char. Sry.
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whisk
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.07.27 16:16:00 -
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In a nutshell, some goon tart (the one being kicked) had a forum signature of a widely loved ex eve playing being run over by a truck, Molle implodes....
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Mr Happ
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.27 16:16:00 -
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Considering there behaviour in local in our short war im not suprised
Annoying BOB = Bad Move
bye bye goons
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Judicator
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.27 16:18:00 -
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Edited by: Judicator on 27/07/2006 16:17:49 .... goons explode
And anyone else stupid enough to get in our way.
Judicator -------------------------
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Leilani Solaris
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.27 16:19:00 -
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Edited by: Leilani Solaris on 27/07/2006 16:21:33 Molle and his ego
While i don't condone the goonfleet guys actions (freedom of speech anyone?) he shouldn't have put that kind of content in his sig, whatever, get over it. Bob being all self rightous n all, get over yourselves.
No disrespect to Smoske or his family (or any other player that has left us) intended.
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Trina Tron
Contraband Inc.
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Posted - 2006.07.27 16:19:00 -
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Edited by: Trina Tron on 27/07/2006 16:20:10 So your kicking out remdial eh?
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Zimi Vlasic
F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2006.07.27 16:20:00 -
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Originally by: Stamm
Originally by: Jingu Himiko what happen
I realise I'm replying to an alt post, and it's likely to get moderated...
However it's pertinant to the thread even if the alt post is removed.
This relates to this thread which starts out in very good spirits, but continue reading and you'll see the reasons.
omg.
Everything is crystal clear now.
That was a line that should not have been crossed.
And the fact that there were people defending him says a lot as well.
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Mr Happ
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.27 16:23:00 -
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Originally by: Leilani Solaris Edited by: Leilani Solaris on 27/07/2006 16:21:33 Molle and his ego
While i don't condone the goonfleet guys actions (freedom of speech anyone?) he shouldn't have put that kind of content in his sig, whatever, get over it. Bob being all self rightous n all, get over yourselves.
No disrespect to Smoske or his family (or any other player that has left us) intended.
Do you or did you know the guy? And by the love of all gods, what right do you have to make that kind of statement? Back the **** up fool, cause i cna tell you now, don't get involved in this
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Turiya Flesharrower
Beagle Corp
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Posted - 2006.07.27 16:24:00 -
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BoB will come out of Delve with a few HAC gangs, splatter some goons in Syndicate/CR for a few days and then return to their POS and ratting. We shall then be liberally showered with chest-beating BoB posts, declarations that justice hath been served and other completely farcical announcements which basically boil down to BoB taking any excuse to get out of Delve and do something while still retaining some of the air of mystery that they hold so dear. Thus it is written; thus it shall be. -----
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Ultrabug
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.07.27 16:26:00 -
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You don't even need to have discussions among leadership to come to such a decision. If it didn't appears logical to you then you also have a deep issue dude.
Such a little reaction... You should already have given at least 10 of his corpses to his father by yourself ! Not even to mention all the others backing and arguing to defend and justify him...
I couldn't hope more than getting the chance to revenge that injury.
I won't fight for fun. I will fight for Smoske's memory.
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Leilani Solaris
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.27 16:28:00 -
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Originally by: Mr Happ
Originally by: Leilani Solaris Edited by: Leilani Solaris on 27/07/2006 16:21:33 Molle and his ego
While i don't condone the goonfleet guys actions (freedom of speech anyone?) he shouldn't have put that kind of content in his sig, whatever, get over it. Bob being all self rightous n all, get over yourselves.
No disrespect to Smoske or his family (or any other player that has left us) intended.
Do you or did you know the guy? And by the love of all gods, what right do you have to make that kind of statement? Back the **** up fool, cause i cna tell you now, don't get involved in this
If you have a problem with anything i said in that post you're very welcome to try and settle it ingame, leave it off the forums.
Everyone is entitled to freedom of speech, at least where i come from at least..
I also said in the post that i don't agree with what he put in his sig and it is very offensive and disrespectful. But as usuall BoB go sticking their noses in other people business once again... All that needed to be done was for a forum mod to remove the sig but once again everything is blown way out of proportion.
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SirMolle
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.07.27 16:28:00 -
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Originally by: Turiya Flesharrower BoB will come out of Delve with a few HAC gangs, splatter some goons in Syndicate/CR for a few days and then return to their POS and ratting. We shall then be liberally showered with chest-beating BoB posts, declarations that justice hath been served and other completely farcical announcements which basically boil down to BoB taking any excuse to get out of Delve and do something while still retaining some of the air of mystery that they hold so dear. Thus it is written; thus it shall be.
Dream on.
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Turiya Flesharrower
Beagle Corp
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Posted - 2006.07.27 16:31:00 -
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Originally by: SirMolle
Dream on.
Look Mom; I can do one-liners too!
Goodbye. -----
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Amthrianius
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.07.27 16:31:00 -
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Originally by: Leilani Solaris All that needed to be done was for a forum mod to remove the sig but once again everything is blown way out of proportion.
Eve forum mods can remove sigs on goonfleet forums now?
When you actually get a clue as to what went on, then you can troll. ---------------
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tseros
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Posted - 2006.07.27 16:32:00 -
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Edited by: tseros on 27/07/2006 16:32:43
Originally by: Judicator Edited by: Judicator on 27/07/2006 16:17:49 .... goons explode
And anyone else stupid enough to get in our way.
Judicator
I donÆt care what happens in an internet spaceship game because seriously itÆs a game, but I am getting seriously sick and tired of things in a computer game being related to some bloke who died in real life okay.
Everytime there is a Goonswarm thread, some knob posts a link to that thread to try and spite us, as if it has something to do with 2500+ of us, when practically none of us were playing the game when it happened.
And then we have someone like you getting your jollies about a make-believe war about to happen, because some dude who is actually dead keeps having his name dragged out into the open and now thereÆs going to a fight in virtual space about it.
It is getting beyond a joke now, and the forum mods need to sort a policy.
I'm posting on an alt because we've been told we're getting fined or banned or something for posting here, but some things have to be said.
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DB Preacher
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.07.27 16:32:00 -
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Originally by: Leilani Solaris But as usuall BoB go sticking their noses in other people business once again...
Smoske was a friend, a wingman, an rkk and bob pilot and an awesome frig pilot.
This is personal.
dbp
Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
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Turiya Flesharrower
Beagle Corp
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Posted - 2006.07.27 16:34:00 -
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Is there an original thread about Smoske's death around here somewhere? I seem to recall reading it ages ago but EvE-Search turns up a whole lot of nothing. -----
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David Godfrey
Fate. Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.07.27 16:34:00 -
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I hope smoske dad doesnt read this but you are sick and you will get what comes to you! ---------------------------------
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Leilani Solaris
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.27 16:35:00 -
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Originally by: Amthrianius
Originally by: Leilani Solaris All that needed to be done was for a forum mod to remove the sig but once again everything is blown way out of proportion.
Eve forum mods can remove sigs on goonfleet forums now?
When you actually get a clue as to what went on, then you can troll.
Well if the sig was on goonswarm private forums then the matter should have been kept to goonfleet forums instead of there being shed loads of pointless smack on these forums. Instead of there being a load of threads on it here.
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Jags
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.27 16:35:00 -
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This tw@t deserves all he and the bunch of tards backing him up get.
To disrespect a beloved friend of the EVE community who is sadly no longer with us is wrong. In fact I dont have words to describe how wrong that is.
Expect retribution from every corner of EVE , You will not be made welcome anywhere after this.
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Zimi Vlasic
F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2006.07.27 16:37:00 -
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Edited by: Zimi Vlasic on 27/07/2006 16:38:28
Originally by: tseros
I'm posting on an alt because we've been told we're getting fined or banned or something for posting here, but some things have to be said.
perhaps you should respect your alliance's policies and not post.
If you mock someone who has died in real life, it doesn't matter if the mockery happened in a game or on a forum. The mockery happened, and the insulted parties will get revenge in the only manner they can - ingame.
It really isn't so difficult to understand this.
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Zimi Vlasic
F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2006.07.27 16:38:00 -
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Edited by: Zimi Vlasic on 27/07/2006 16:37:57 Opps double post
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Nahual
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.27 16:39:00 -
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this so better have been a bad dream, as david said, I hope that his father doesn't read this.
Nothing else needs to be said, there are certain lines, some of them are crossed. -----------------------------------------------
FateCorp
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Calenth
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.07.27 16:40:00 -
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Edited by: Calenth on 27/07/2006 16:43:34 Edited by: Calenth on 27/07/2006 16:41:46
Originally by: some alt Everytime there is a Goonswarm thread, some knob posts a link to that thread to try and spite us, as if it has something to do with 2500+ of us, when practically none of us were playing the game when it happened.
Yeah. Bob can attack us if they want to. It's a good time for it, especially if they want to make sure we don't develop into a capital-P Power. But we've apologized for any (unintentional) offense, and explained that the people some Goonswarm members are (yes, tastelessly) attempting to mock with "that joke" are not those who died, but the people who keep bringing up the dead to score political points in an internet spaceship game, against people who had no involvement with or memory of the deceased.
The post the offensive sig came from was four months old. If someone wanted to say something about it at any point up till now, they could've done so, and we would've apologized for any hurt caused. But the timing on this is extremely convenient. Just my take, but it seems like this is a lot more about making sure an organized "newbie" alliance doesn't get a toehold in conquerable space, and a lot less about events that predate the involvement of almost the entirety of GoonSwarm with this game.
Originally by: Leilani Solaris
Well if the sig was on goonswarm private forums then the matter should have been kept to goonfleet forums instead of there being shed loads of pointless smack on these forums..
Nobody in GoonSwarm brought mention of it here.
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tseros
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Posted - 2006.07.27 16:41:00 -
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Originally by: Zimi Vlasic perhaps you should respect your alliance's policies and not post.
If you mock someone who has died in real life, it doesn't matter if the mockery happened in a game or on a forum. The mockery happened, and the insulted parties will get revenge in the only manner they can - ingame.
It really isn't so difficult to understand this.
As far as I know, the only humor found in the situation by goons, is how people keep dragging this guys name up in threads about us for their 'political' motivations. It has nothing to do with some guy being dead.
You've got idiots bringing his name up to spite people, you have got idiots making fun of the fact they do so, now you've got idiots declaring video-game war apparantly to avenge some poor **** who is dead.
Retards.
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Zimi Vlasic
F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2006.07.27 16:42:00 -
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Originally by: Calenth
Originally by: some alt Everytime there is a Goonswarm thread, some knob posts a link to that thread to try and spite us, as if it has something to do with 2500+ of us, when practically none of us were playing the game when it happened.
Yeah. Bob can attack us if they want to. It's a good time for it, especially if they want to make sure we don't develop into a capital-P Power. But we've apologized for any (unintentional) offense, and explained that the people some Goonswarm members are attempting to mock with "that joke" are not those who died, but the people who keep bringing up the dead to score political points in an internet spaceship game, against people who had no involvement with or memory of the deceased.
The post the offensive sig came from was four months old. If someone wanted to say something about it at any point up till now, they could've done so, and we would've apologized for any hurt caused. But the timing on this is extremely convenient. Just my take, but it seems like this is a lot more about making sure an organized "newbie" alliance doesn't get a toehold in conquerable space, and a lot less about events that predate
or perhaps you just weren't relevant until recently, and people actually didn't go to that hole of a forum until recently.
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Turiya Flesharrower
Beagle Corp
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Posted - 2006.07.27 16:43:00 -
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Edited by: Turiya Flesharrower on 27/07/2006 16:43:42
Originally by: Calenth
Originally by: some alt Everytime there is a Goonswarm thread, some knob posts a link to that thread to try and spite us, as if it has something to do with 2500+ of us, when practically none of us were playing the game when it happened.
Yeah. Bob can attack us if they want to. It's a good time for it, especially if they want to make sure we don't develop into a capital-P Power. But we've apologized for any (unintentional) offense, and explained that the people some Goonswarm members are attempting to mock with "that joke" are not those who died, but the people who keep bringing up the dead to score political points in an internet spaceship game, against people who had no involvement with or memory of the deceased.
The post the offensive sig came from was four months old. If someone wanted to say something about it at any point up till now, they could've done so, and we would've apologized for any hurt caused. But the timing on this is extremely convenient. Just my take, but it seems like this is a lot more about making sure an organized "newbie" alliance doesn't get a toehold in conquerable space, and a lot less about events that predate
This man speaks the truth!
It seems that BoB are trying to put a self-righteous slant on their continued crusade against any entities they deem to be potential threats. And the best part is that everyone is falling for it; the BoB propaganda machine strikes again! -----
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budman905
Euphoria Released Euphoria Unleashed
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Posted - 2006.07.27 16:43:00 -
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Originally by: tseros Edited by: tseros on 27/07/2006 16:32:43
Originally by: Judicator Edited by: Judicator on 27/07/2006 16:17:49 .... goons explode
And anyone else stupid enough to get in our way.
Judicator
I donÆt care what happens in an internet spaceship game because seriously itÆs a game, but I am getting seriously sick and tired of things in a computer game being related to some bloke who died in real life okay.
Everytime there is a Goonswarm thread, some knob posts a link to that thread to try and spite us, as if it has something to do with 2500+ of us, when practically none of us were playing the game when it happened.
And then we have someone like you getting your jollies about a make-believe war about to happen, because some dude who is actually dead keeps having his name dragged out into the open and now thereÆs going to a fight in virtual space about it.
It is getting beyond a joke now, and the forum mods need to sort a policy.
I'm posting on an alt because we've been told we're getting fined or banned or something for posting here, but some things have to be said.
1st things 1st, Sorry E-R/E-U on behalf of our no-posting rule, Please excuse me to write this as this sickens me beyond belief.
... now thats out the way, i personally hope BoB and SirMolle pod you and your entire alliance over and over and over until you all quit Eve.
I only wish that BoB would set me to +standings so i could fly with them to slauter your sorry a**'s.
Gl BoB, Hope you fry every single 1 of them!
=============================================== "Thank you for using the S.A.S Clone jump service, Have a nice day" =============================================== http://www.pwned.nl/
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David Godfrey
Fate. Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.07.27 16:45:00 -
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Edited by: David Godfrey on 27/07/2006 16:45:18
Originally by: Calenth Edited by: Calenth on 27/07/2006 16:43:34 Edited by: Calenth on 27/07/2006 16:41:46
Originally by: some alt Everytime there is a Goonswarm thread, some knob posts a link to that thread to try and spite us, as if it has something to do with 2500+ of us, when practically none of us were playing the game when it happened.
Yeah. Bob can attack us if they want to. It's a good time for it, especially if they want to make sure we don't develop into a capital-P Power. But we've apologized for any (unintentional) offense, and explained that the people some Goonswarm members are (yes, tastelessly) attempting to mock with "that joke" are not those who died, but the people who keep bringing up the dead to score political points in an internet spaceship game, against people who had no involvement with or memory of the deceased.
The post the offensive sig came from was four months old. If someone wanted to say something about it at any point up till now, they could've done so, and we would've apologized for any hurt caused. But the timing on this is extremely convenient. Just my take, but it seems like this is a lot more about making sure an organized "newbie" alliance doesn't get a toehold in conquerable space, and a lot less about events that predate the involvement of almost the entirety of GoonSwarm with this game.
Originally by: Leilani Solaris
Well if the sig was on goonswarm private forums then the matter should have been kept to goonfleet forums instead of there being shed loads of pointless smack on these forums..
Nobody in GoonSwarm brought mention of it here.
Whats happened has happened and there is no need of for justification I know what it was there for and its sick! I cant belive this dont you think his dad has gone through enuff without this happening all over again! ---------------------------------
Ghey Seal of Approval |
Fred0
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2006.07.27 16:47:00 -
[44]
Originally by: Jags Expect retribution from every corner of EVE , You will not be made welcome anywhere after this.
Erm. The amount of cooperation these guys have with ERA (your allies) in cache must've passed you by mate.
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Cringeley
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.27 16:48:00 -
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Please don't feed the alts. Tseros doesn't speak for us, neither does Calenth, and neither do I (except to remind everyone to please not feed the goddamn alts).
Tseros, if you are a member of goonswarm then please stop whining.
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Thrice is he armed who has his quarrel just, But four times he who gets his blow in fust. |
Calenth
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.07.27 16:49:00 -
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Originally by: David Godfrey
Whats happened has happened and there is no need of for justification I know what it was there for and its sick! I cant belive this dont you think his dad has gone through enuff without this happening all over again!
Nobody in Goonswarm has attempted to "justify" the sig in any way. What I've attempted to do is explain that, at least in my opinion, the true offenders are the people who keep dragging this ancient incident up to score political points against GoonSwarm. Goonfleet members aren't bringing it up on public forums or parading years-old events around to justify wars. As someone who has lost close family members myself, I feel nothing but sympathy for Smoske's family -- and wish people would stop using a years-old incident to troll and politicize against Goonfleet.
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Ranko
Black Lance Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.07.27 16:49:00 -
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It looks like the goonies has not only awoke the sleeping giant, but also gave it a slap to the face in the process...
A member of the goonies offended not only BoB but many others in this game, so now they are going to have to pay price for their one member being a stupid and argogant person who has little or no care for those that came before him and who is still respected by many who play this game.
Wake up, its time to die goonies...
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Leilani Solaris
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.27 16:50:00 -
[48]
I think all of these goonswarm/smoske threads need to be locked and settled in game.
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Ranko
Black Lance Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.07.27 16:53:00 -
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Originally by: Leilani Solaris I think all of these goonswarm/smoske threads need to be locked and settled in game.
Locked... maybe... Settled in game.... ohhh most deffiantly... ---
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Franky B
Mentally Unstable Enterprises
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Posted - 2006.07.27 16:54:00 -
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Originally by: Turiya Flesharrower BoB will come out of Delve with a few HAC gangs, splatter some goons in Syndicate/CR for a few days and then return to their POS and ratting. We shall then be liberally showered with chest-beating BoB posts, declarations that justice hath been served and other completely farcical announcements which basically boil down to BoB taking any excuse to get out of Delve and do something while still retaining some of the air of mystery that they hold so dear. Thus it is written; thus it shall be.
Do you honestly believe this? do you remember the "little operation" in EC? the "roadtrip" to deklein in christmas? and those werent even "personal".
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DeathGrip
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.07.27 16:54:00 -
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I have to agree with BoB on this one.
FOr the goons that had nothing to do with this, I do wish you luck.
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Rhakel
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.07.27 16:55:00 -
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Originally by: Turiya Flesharrower Is there an original thread about Smoske's death around here somewhere? I seem to recall reading it ages ago but EvE-Search turns up a whole lot of nothing.
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=169571
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tseros
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Posted - 2006.07.27 16:55:00 -
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Edited by: tseros on 27/07/2006 16:55:23
Originally by: budman905 1st things 1st, Sorry E-R/E-U on behalf of our no-posting rule, Please excuse me to write this as this sickens me beyond belief.
... now thats out the way, i personally hope BoB and SirMolle pod you and your entire alliance over and over and over until you all quit Eve.
I only wish that BoB would set me to +standings so i could fly with them to slauter your sorry a**'s.
Gl BoB, Hope you fry every single 1 of them!
You are so stupid I cannot even articulate it.
Originally by: Cringeley
Tseros, if you are a member of goonswarm then please stop whining.
Fine.
And my posts are my personal opinion if I need to post that.
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Atandros
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.27 16:57:00 -
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Originally by: Calenth
Originally by: David Godfrey
Whats happened has happened and there is no need of for justification I know what it was there for and its sick! I cant belive this dont you think his dad has gone through enuff without this happening all over again!
Nobody in Goonswarm has attempted to "justify" the sig in any way. What I've attempted to do is explain that, at least in my opinion, the true offenders are the people who keep dragging this ancient incident up to score political points against GoonSwarm. Goonfleet members aren't bringing it up on public forums or parading years-old events around to justify wars. As someone who has lost close family members myself, I feel nothing but sympathy for Smoske's family -- and wish people would stop using a years-old incident to troll and politicize against Goonfleet.
Why do you think BoB would need a pretext to attack you?
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Furnok Dorn
Jita Highway Patrol
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Posted - 2006.07.27 17:00:00 -
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Originally by: Calenth
Originally by: David Godfrey
Whats happened has happened and there is no need of for justification I know what it was there for and its sick! I cant belive this dont you think his dad has gone through enuff without this happening all over again!
Nobody in Goonswarm has attempted to "justify" the sig in any way. What I've attempted to do is explain that, at least in my opinion, the true offenders are the people who keep dragging this ancient incident up to score political points against GoonSwarm. Goonfleet members aren't bringing it up on public forums or parading years-old events around to justify wars. As someone who has lost close family members myself, I feel nothing but sympathy for Smoske's family -- and wish people would stop using a years-old incident to troll and politicize against Goonfleet.
welp looks like calenth is trying to online a Damage Control mod but he doesnt have enough cap :O
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Astarte Nosferatu
Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2006.07.27 17:02:00 -
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I can't believe I'm actually supporting SirMolle and BoB on this one. If there are two rules on these forums, it's don't smack/flame recruitment threads, and don't insult/laugh with other people's real life problems.
In any case, goons, you've offended a lot of people in a lot of alliances, so I seriously doubt you'll ever be able to live in 0.0 or empire even while being in Goonfleet/Goonswarm. One member of a 3000 member alliance just destroyed everything you worked for the last few months. Best thing to do now is to disband both Goonfleet and Goonswarm, and break up, as after this, you have no future left as an entity.
Smoske was a good friend to many, and he will be honoured by those friends.
Resquiescat In Pace.
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Orest
Cataclysm Enterprises Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.07.27 17:02:00 -
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Originally by: Cefte In a large corporation or alliance, policing the membership can be difficult. It is however, a neccessity to do so, despite such difficulty, to ensure a base standard of decency and discourse.
After discussions among our leadership, a single member has been deemed to have broken the very low levels of decency we require our people to maintain. His roles have been removed, and he will be ejected from his corporation when the timer is completed.
Thank you for your attention.
Goons you are the lowest of the low. This time you pushed it too far. You will get elimated for this.
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Calenth
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.07.27 17:02:00 -
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Originally by: Atandros
Why do you think BoB would need a pretext to attack you?
Political move. By coloring this as "defending the memory of Smoske" they make it look like they're doing something other than (attempt to, so far anyway) beat up on an alliance full of newbies because they don't want those newbies to grow into a threat. Makes it harder for us to call in allies or play the political game.
Of course, that may just be my tinfoil, and it could be that BoB picked today of all days, when GS is locked in a death-struggle with d2, to pick up a four month old post, bring it here, troll with it, and then start a war over it in complete innocence and is genuinely offended. If so I apologize for my doubts. But to my mind it looks bad, it looks extremely convenient.
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Ishquar Teh'Sainte
Faaip De Oiad
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Posted - 2006.07.27 17:04:00 -
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Originally by: Calenth
Nobody in Goonswarm has attempted to "justify" the sig in any way.
short attention span??
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-Skellibjalla- Life is a garden of perceptions. Pick your fruit.
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Mr Happ
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.27 17:06:00 -
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Originally by: Leilani Solaris
Originally by: Mr Happ
Originally by: Leilani Solaris Edited by: Leilani Solaris on 27/07/2006 16:21:33 Molle and his ego
While i don't condone the goonfleet guys actions (freedom of speech anyone?) he shouldn't have put that kind of content in his sig, whatever, get over it. Bob being all self rightous n all, get over yourselves.
No disrespect to Smoske or his family (or any other player that has left us) intended.
Do you or did you know the guy? And by the love of all gods, what right do you have to make that kind of statement? Back the **** up fool, cause i cna tell you now, don't get involved in this
If you have a problem with anything i said in that post you're very welcome to try and settle it ingame, leave it off the forums.
Everyone is entitled to freedom of speech, at least where i come from at least..
I also said in the post that i don't agree with what he put in his sig and it is very offensive and disrespectful. But as usuall BoB go sticking their noses in other people business once again... All that needed to be done was for a forum mod to remove the sig but once again everything is blown way out of proportion.
bring it of stfu, mr 4 man corp :)
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Crivens
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Posted - 2006.07.27 17:08:00 -
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Edited by: Crivens on 27/07/2006 17:12:15
Originally by: Ultrabug
Such a little reaction... You should already have given at least 10 of his corpses to his father by yourself !
His son is dead. This is not some pilot we're talking about, it is his SON. His flesh and blood and someone he loved. How on earth can you imagine that sending 10 virtually-frozen virtual-corpses over a virtual escrow could make him feel better in the slightest - or indeed be anything but an insult.
If you want to apologise you look him in the eye and you tell him so.
Quote:
I won't fight for fun. I will fight for Smoske's memory.
His name wasn't smoske. Smoske was some character in a game who probably died tens of times. The REAL PERSON controlling smoske only got one chance. There are no clones in real life. If you're going to fight for his memory, do it under his real name.
Smoske was a real person - NOT a pod pilot. And whilst I do not know his name, there are some here who will read this who do. And you who did know his real name, I hope you know that if you do manage to destroy goonswarm you will only cause hundreds to quit this game, to take away something that they enjoy and love, because the only reason I and many play eve is to fly with my fellow goons. If your friend would have wanted that done in his memory, then carry on - I will meet you at the gate regardless.
But please, if you want to fly for his memory, do it in the memory of the person who died, not the character in the game. Don't do it because he was your wingman or he was a great "frig pilot" - do it because he loved and was loved. Do it for his girlfriend. For his favourite book, he dirty jokes he liked to make with his friends, the first time he got drunk, the first time he got laid, his first kiss, the times he cried and the times he smiled. For the times he spent with you and for the times you thought about him when he wasn't there.
If the destruction and pain of a corp full of people is what he would have wanted, I will see you on the gate, and we will honour this REAL PERSON (not this pod pilot) together.
EDIT: I just reread my own post. I was thinking about someone I lost when I wrote this above. This is YOUR FRIEND. You spoke with him on teamspeak and you laughted with him and you got drunk with him. And THIS is a computer game. If you're going to do this, do it for the right reasons - because to me the two don't mix.
And goddamn if you're going to come, have fun in the comming. I KNOW from the company he kept on eve that if he would have wanted you to come, he would have wanted you to have that.
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Calenth
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.07.27 17:09:00 -
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Edited by: Calenth on 27/07/2006 17:11:08
Originally by: Ishquar Teh'Sainte
Originally by: Calenth
Nobody in Goonswarm has attempted to "justify" the sig in any way.
short attention span??
link
As I said, I was trying to explain an internal perspective, not justify offending people outside our internal forums. I don't think a lot of people here want to understand our perspective -- it's more politically advantageous for many of them to just act offended, I'm sure IRON etc. are ecstatic over this -- but we really aren't mocking Smoske, we're mocking the people who use his memory as a political tool. I can understand how people who weren't familiar with our internal culture wouldn't understand that.
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CamMan
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.07.27 17:09:00 -
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Originally by: Leilani Solaris
Originally by: Mr Happ
Do you or did you know the guy? And by the love of all gods, what right do you have to make that kind of statement? Back the **** up fool, cause i cna tell you now, don't get involved in this
If you have a problem with anything i said in that post you're very welcome to try and settle it ingame, leave it off the forums.
Everyone is entitled to freedom of speech, at least where i come from at least..
what happened to your idea of free speech? now you are telling someone else to leave it off the forums, hypocrit!
Perhaps it is you who should have never posted, this discussion and its consequences has nothing to do with you, roll back under your rock.
Originally by: Bender Interesting, no the other one ... tedious
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Cyleth
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.07.27 17:14:00 -
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Originally by: Turiya Flesharrower some bitter rabble
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Xendie
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Posted - 2006.07.27 17:20:00 -
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i really think this is a really weird event in my eve life. it is the first time ever that i am actually cheering on when bob goes to kill someone. this is weird indeed.
Quote: Nertzius > having fun being incompetitent?
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wystler
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Posted - 2006.07.27 17:35:00 -
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Alt trolling and normal trolling makes me upset.
I've cleaned this thread and I am now locking it as it is only upsetting people.
Take this to a ship and a gun ingame. No more posts on this topic. They will be insta-deleted.
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