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Mabelrode
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Posted - 2006.07.25 18:40:00 -
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I'm loathe to post this because of all the unneccassry catcalls, but I was wondering what the best route to go in contacting CCP about being scammed by Fenian on a partial downpayment for a freighter would be. I have evemails from Fenian verifying my payment, chat log regarding the purchase, and a screenshot of the transfer. Any suggestions from others who have gone through this on who to contact/mail would be appreciated. Please no "you're an idiot" comments; I'm well aware I made a bad decision. I would just like the opportunity for CCP to hopefully intervene in situation like this.
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mirel yirrin
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.25 18:42:00 -
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They will not intervene in any Scamming, Lying or general stuff like this.
Ever.
Period.
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CrayC
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.25 18:42:00 -
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Scamming is part of the game, no reimbursement needed...
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Akasha Kadore
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Posted - 2006.07.25 18:43:00 -
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Well i hate to break it to you , but ccp allow scaming in eve as thay believe it makes the game more realistic, and it realy dont matter who you contact in ccp, as they wont repace isk/items lost to scammers.
Rule of survival in eve Dont trust anyone.
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mirel yirrin
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.25 18:43:00 -
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IBDS/HK, btw
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Jinx Barker
Gallente Federal Bank
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Posted - 2006.07.25 18:49:00 -
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Rather than say what is allowed, I will point out what is not allowed:
1) Scaming with GTC (Game Time Codes) - is not allowed 2) Scaming on Character Sales - is not allowed
Thats as far as the gameplay is concerned.
Everything else, is allowed. If you got scamed in game, and it did not involve Character Sale or GTC sale, then you have no real recourse.
Many people get scamed at one point or another. When I started I got scamed for 12 Million ISK and it was allot if ISK for me at the time. It something that teaches you responsibility and introduces you to a cruel, ruthless, lawless life of EVE.
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Mabelrode
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Posted - 2006.07.25 18:54:00 -
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Well if its true they won't intervene, then ok. But to say that it's "more realistic" is one of the most absurd statements one could make. How many people here have put a down payment on a car, and had it stolen by the dealership, and had no recourse? You can't contact the police, can't file a lawsuit. You can't even go kick his ass, because he hides in a station and I magically can't get to him there. Yet if I curse him out in local, I'm the one in jeopardy. I may be screwed, and I did fail this IQ test, but please please don't bring "realistic" into it.
Anyways, avoid Fenian of Aztec industries and don't fail the IQ test that I did.
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HippoKing
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.25 18:59:00 -
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You weren't talking to a dealership, you were talkign to a bloke you met in the pub, and handed him ú10k because he said he'd give you a porshe.
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Vincent Gaines
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Posted - 2006.07.25 18:59:00 -
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Originally by: HippoKing You weren't talking to a dealership, you were talkign to a bloke you met in the pub, and handed him ú10k because he said he'd give you a porshe.
kew eff tea
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ParMizaN
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.07.25 18:59:00 -
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@ character name...
Very powerful sectarian insult in N.ireland
sig edited for lack of pink really PINK -eris |
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mirel yirrin
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.25 18:59:00 -
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Just never pay anything in advance, ever, check everything twice, and if in doubt, find another Sales person.
When you go to buy a new car, you don't just hand him all the cash and drive off in it without checking it do you?
You check the paintwork, if its got car details, MOT, ect right?
Stay Vigilant!
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mirel yirrin
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.25 19:01:00 -
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Edited by: mirel yirrin on 25/07/2006 19:01:52
Originally by: ParMizaN @ character name...
Very powerful sectarian insult in N.ireland
Petition his name, That will **** him off!
[EDIT] Linky mc Links alot ---------------------------------
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Tarkan Kador
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Posted - 2006.07.25 19:06:00 -
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I'm not sure about CCP, but would the "Crime and Punishment" forum here be a good way for Mabelrode to get some justice? Are there players who act as investigators that can help to resolve the situation?
If this is a game where the players rule, then do the players help solve disputes? |
HippoKing
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.25 19:10:00 -
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Originally by: Tarkan Kador I'm not sure about CCP, but would the "Crime and Punishment" forum here be a good way for Mabelrode to get some justice? Are there players who act as investigators that can help to resolve the situation?
Actually, thats the piracy forum really. Lots of crime, little punishment (except occaisonal "Karma got me again" threads). Even less sympathy there than here. I understand there is a forum where sympathy is available, but that is unconfirmed.
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Gunstar Zero
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.25 19:13:00 -
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a bit suprising, I had an alt in Aztec for a good long while & he was a top notch CEO whilst I was there.
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Vegeta
Omniscient Order
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Posted - 2006.07.25 19:18:00 -
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Rumour has it the character now has a new owner.
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Kayosoni
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.25 19:22:00 -
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Originally by: Vegeta Rumour has it the character now has a new owner.
orly? -----------------------------------
btw, threatening to close 1 account really hurt my eyes. - xaioguai |
CharlieMurphy
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Posted - 2006.07.25 19:22:00 -
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Quote: Petition his name, That will **** him off!
yeah i agree i dont like scammers (lol 1 might rob me one day....) and as an Enlish person i find the name offensive
CCP really have little choice but to ban him for that considering the meaning behind it Isnt all this lefty PC stuff great ? Fenian
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Tarkan Kador
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Posted - 2006.07.25 19:26:00 -
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Originally by: HippoKing I understand there is a forum where sympathy is available, but that is unconfirmed.
lol @ link.
No I don't think there is justice there Hippo.
But aren't there people you can call who can, you know, get things done when people get wronged like this? I mean I totally support CCP not getting involved because they want to give the players the freedom to enforce justice. So then, where are the players that enforce the justice? |
Hidden Agent
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Posted - 2006.07.25 20:02:00 -
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Originally by: mirel yirrin Just never pay anything in advance, ever, check everything twice, and if in doubt, find another Sales person.
When you go to buy a new car, you don't just hand him all the cash and drive off in it without checking it do you?
You check the paintwork, if its got car details, MOT, ect right?
Stay Vigilant!
im a car salesman and very few people look it over when they buy. They go home and realize it has a ding and call me the next day and then I have to reply "it probably happened on your way home " :D
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spiralJunkie
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.25 20:21:00 -
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Originally by: Tarkan Kador So then, where are the players that enforce the justice?
i'd recommmend these ole chickens
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MrTripps
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.25 20:41:00 -
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Transfer me 1mil ISK and I will tell you. Honest!
"Never let your sense of morals prevent you from doing what is right!" - Salvor Hardin |
Bromius
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.25 20:57:00 -
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My name is BROMIUS, and I work in the International operation department in a Local Bank here in South Africa...err Sing Liason Region. On a routine inspection I discovered a dormant domiciliary account with a BAL Of 36,000,000 (Thirty Six Million isk) on further discreet investigation I also discovered that the account holder has long since passed away (dead by Pirates!) leaving no beneficiary to the account. The bank will approve this money to any foreigner because the former operator of the a/c is a foreigner and from Caldari in particular and I am certainly sure that he is dead and nobody will come again for the claim of this money. A foreigner can only claim this money with legal claims to the account Holder therefore I need your cooperation in this transaction I will provide the necessary information needed in order to claim this money, But you will need to open an account where this can be transferred.....and email me 1 million isk.....
I just got this in my email :)
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Mabelrode
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Posted - 2006.07.25 21:16:00 -
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Edited by: Mabelrode on 25/07/2006 21:17:27
Originally by: HippoKing You weren't talking to a dealership, you were talkign to a bloke you met in the pub, and handed him ú10k because he said he'd give you a porshe.
Don't be a moron hippo. Read again. I in essence have a copy of the check I wrote him, and a recording of our conversation in the pub. So I take this to the police or file a claim in court and they say "that's a shame, tough s---"? I don't think so. Your analogy is garbage.
And yes, I am still stupid for doing it, and an offense to Darwin. I'm just saying stow your "realistic" trash.
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Mista Sexamalicious
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Posted - 2006.07.25 21:19:00 -
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Originally by: CharlieMurphy
Quote: Petition his name, That will **** him off!
yeah i agree i dont like scammers (lol 1 might rob me one day....) and as an Enlish person i find the name offensive
CCP really have little choice but to ban him for that considering the meaning behind it Isnt all this lefty PC stuff great ? Fenian
While you're writing the petition go ahead and add these to the list:
***** ***** Ugly ***** Hotty *****idyChina *****illa *****inspace *****king
***** *****forlife *****s *****stolenmybike *****z ******
And list goes on and on.
Or is it that these are "OK" and I'm just out of my mind
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Mista Sexamalicious
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Posted - 2006.07.25 21:20:00 -
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Wow it's cool to make them players names but not to post them on the boards
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Brisi
Sniggerdly
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Posted - 2006.07.25 22:17:00 -
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I guess you just learned an important lesson then, take it as what it is and move on.
I am Brisi, I am as One. Resistance is fertile.
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Too Kind
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Posted - 2006.07.25 22:19:00 -
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Originally by: Mista Sexamalicious Wow it's cool to make them players names but not to post them on the boards
How about petition them yourself ? -------------------------- Post with your main !!!111 |
Volaxis
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Posted - 2006.07.25 22:25:00 -
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Originally by: Mabelrode Edited by: Mabelrode on 25/07/2006 21:17:27
Originally by: HippoKing You weren't talking to a dealership, you were talkign to a bloke you met in the pub, and handed him ú10k because he said he'd give you a porshe.
Don't be a moron hippo. Read again. I in essence have a copy of the check I wrote him, and a recording of our conversation in the pub. So I take this to the police or file a claim in court and they say "that's a shame, tough s---"? I don't think so. Your analogy is garbage.
And yes, I am still stupid for doing it, and an offense to Darwin. I'm just saying stow your "realistic" trash.
I mostly lurk around this forums, but felt like answering to this.
If a person in real life comes to you and says "Give me 10k and I promise Ill give you a car after", and they dont, you dont have a legal ground to complain, as its your word against his. In case you have the said recording of the deal, you still dont have a legal ground, as I can say right now "IM GOING TO KILL 10 PEOPLE", and be recorded, doesnt mean I will. A word is just a word. Thats why contracts exists in real life, to legally bind all deals made.
Was it ethical what he did? It wasnt.
Can you complain? You cant.
After all, remember there is the trade window thingie, where you could have done the purchase safely.
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CharlieMurphy
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Posted - 2006.07.25 22:31:00 -
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Its pointless to compare this to real life People that cheat you in real life you have various ways of getting back at them sinse this is a game the rules of real life do not apply
to the OP - do keep us up to date on if you can get this guy banned on account of his name because im interested to know how CCP will deal with this
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