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Altirius Saldiaro
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.07.15 14:41:00 -
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Just curious if anyone else uses Voice Attack or any other type of VOX macro program with EVE?
I've been using VA for various shortcuts in EVE and so far I've been enjoying it. |
Pine Marten
Viziam Amarr Empire
62
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Posted - 2014.07.15 14:45:00 -
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Did not know about it but I am VERY interested now. Seems AWESOME! |
Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
2872
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Posted - 2014.07.15 14:54:00 -
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Can you elaborate on what this software is and does please, I'm curious. "Confirming EVE is hot, batshit crazy, and puts out." -Omar Alharazaad "CAKE CANNOT HOLD UP TO BEING A CHARACTER DAMNIT." --áUnsuccessful At Everything |
Altirius Saldiaro
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
5
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Posted - 2014.07.15 14:54:00 -
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I have a lot of setups programmed on mine for various ships that I use to control my modules, overheating, warping, etc. Like a RR Domi, I just target my RR buddy and say "Computer, Spider Tank" and VA activates all my RR modules. Beats the hell out of having to use the keyboard for shortcuts.
www.voiceattack.com is the one I use. Was 8 dollars. Probably others out there or some of you who know how to make programs could make your own.
I have mine setup with a custom voice pack, so every command I make, the program responds with a british chick voice. Was trying to find a voice pack that sounds like Aura.
Various shortcuts I use are like open map, close map, open market, warp, jump, dock, approach, etc. |
Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
2872
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Posted - 2014.07.15 15:02:00 -
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Interesting, how is it with regards the eula? I would imagine there's a potential grey area with this kind of thing, can you point me In the direction for these so I may look into it myself? "Confirming EVE is hot, batshit crazy, and puts out." -Omar Alharazaad "CAKE CANNOT HOLD UP TO BEING A CHARACTER DAMNIT." --áUnsuccessful At Everything |
Altirius Saldiaro
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
5
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Posted - 2014.07.15 15:05:00 -
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Its basically a voice activated macro program. Instead of using keyboard for macros, you use your voice. |
Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
7273
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Posted - 2014.07.15 15:08:00 -
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This is a bad idea. If you forget it's on, one ill-timed "Grrr Goons" will have you jumping your carrier to a beacon in VFK, then you die. |
Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
2872
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Posted - 2014.07.15 15:10:00 -
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Altirius Saldiaro wrote:Its basically a voice activated macro program. Instead of using keyboard for macros, you use your voice. Hence my question about the eula, have you looked it up yourself? My apologies for the scepticism , I'd just be concerned about the potential risk to ones account given the ccp's attitude towards macro programs.
Altirius Saldiaro wrote: Its especially handy for anyone who is handicapped. Heard about an EVE player who only has one hand. This would help him out a lot.
I have a razor Naga so u can already play eve one handed, though I see the appeal (and benefits In your example). "Confirming EVE is hot, batshit crazy, and puts out." -Omar Alharazaad "CAKE CANNOT HOLD UP TO BEING A CHARACTER DAMNIT." --áUnsuccessful At Everything |
Tyrendian Biohazard
Ubiquitous Hurt Exodus.
303
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Posted - 2014.07.15 15:13:00 -
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Some of my commands
Engage - Warps me to next gate on my route. Only works after I stand up out of my chair and pull down my jacket that is riding up on me. Also, only works if I point at the screen when saying it.
I'm in structure - Overheats all the modules and Microsoft Sam says a quick prayer that I may live.
****, a bubble - Immediately aligns towards sun and turns prop mods on while typing "Bad campers are bad" in local.
Grr Goons - Turns on self destruct, minimizes my game, and opens funny cat gifs.
My twitch stream to help new players: http://www.twitch.tv/biohazrd51
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Altirius Saldiaro
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
5
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Posted - 2014.07.15 15:13:00 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Altirius Saldiaro wrote:Its basically a voice activated macro program. Instead of using keyboard for macros, you use your voice. Hence my question about the eula, have you looked it up yourself? My apologies for the scepticism , I'd just be concerned about the potential risk to ones account given the ccp's attitude towards macro programs.
I dont know, is it against the EULA to use macro keys on a keyboard, or even use the ingame shortcuts? All this does is instead of hitting shortcut for warp, I say warp and it keys the warp shortcut or whatever I program. |
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Pine Marten
Viziam Amarr Empire
62
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Posted - 2014.07.15 15:16:00 -
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If isboxer is allowed and lets 1 person use 20+ accounts then this should be a nobrainer. |
Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
2872
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Posted - 2014.07.15 15:20:00 -
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Pine Marten wrote:If isboxer is allowed and lets 1 person use 20+ accounts then this should be a nobrainer. Well I hope it is, sounds awesome.
Cheers for the info op. "Confirming EVE is hot, batshit crazy, and puts out." -Omar Alharazaad "CAKE CANNOT HOLD UP TO BEING A CHARACTER DAMNIT." --áUnsuccessful At Everything |
Altirius Saldiaro
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.07.15 15:37:00 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Pine Marten wrote:If isboxer is allowed and lets 1 person use 20+ accounts then this should be a nobrainer. Well I hope it is, sounds awesome. Cheers for the info op.
I use it on other games too. Comes in handy on flight simulators. I hate memorizing keyboard bindings, more natural to program voice commands. |
De'Veldrin
Black Serpent Technologies The Unthinkables
2571
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Posted - 2014.07.15 19:03:00 -
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Altirius Saldiaro wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Pine Marten wrote:If isboxer is allowed and lets 1 person use 20+ accounts then this should be a nobrainer. Well I hope it is, sounds awesome. Cheers for the info op. I use it on other games too. Comes in handy on flight simulators. I hate memorizing keyboard bindings, more natural to program voice commands.
My guess would be it is allowed since it's not automating the use of the commands. You still have to be at the keyboard and issue the command for anything to happen - in that regard it's no different than the buttons on a razor mouse or a G15 keyboard, both of which are allowed. as long as it's not reacting FOR you, I don't think it's a violation.
You could always send in a petition if you want an official answer. MAMBA is recruiting. -áWhen other folks are whining about a lack of content, we go out and create it. The case of Shrodinger's Hotdropper |
Altirius Saldiaro
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
7
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Posted - 2014.07.15 19:08:00 -
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De'Veldrin wrote:Altirius Saldiaro wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Pine Marten wrote:If isboxer is allowed and lets 1 person use 20+ accounts then this should be a nobrainer. Well I hope it is, sounds awesome. Cheers for the info op. I use it on other games too. Comes in handy on flight simulators. I hate memorizing keyboard bindings, more natural to program voice commands. My guess would be it is allowed since it's not automating the use of the commands. You still have to be at the keyboard and issue the command for anything to happen - in that regard it's no different than the buttons on a razor mouse or a G15 keyboard, both of which are allowed. as long as it's not reacting FOR you, I don't think it's a violation. You could always send in a petition if you want an official answer.
Im not worried about it.
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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
5521
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Posted - 2014.07.15 19:36:00 -
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Altirius Saldiaro wrote:
I use it on other games too. Comes in handy on flight simulators. I hate memorizing keyboard bindings, more natural to program voice commands.
My kids already think I'm some kind of nut job when they see me sitting with a joystick crammed between my legs, a throttle clamped to the side of my chair, rudder pedals for a foot rest, head tracker hat on with it's shiny dots and yammering on coms in WW2 pilot speak.
I think if I started actually talking to the computer, asking it to drop flaps or retract gear, my kids would be calling the funny farm to come pick me up.
Mr Epeen
There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass! |
Lailyana Enaka
Fruidian Logic The Harlequin's
181
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Posted - 2014.07.15 19:48:00 -
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Tyrendian Biohazard wrote:Some of my commands
Engage - Warps me to next gate on my route. Only works after I stand up out of my chair and pull down my jacket that is riding up on me. Also, only works if I point at the screen when saying it.
I'm in structure - Overheats all the modules and Microsoft Sam says a quick prayer that I may live.
****, a bubble - Immediately aligns towards sun and turns prop mods on while typing "Bad campers are bad" in local.
Grr Goons - Turns on self destruct, minimizes my game, and opens funny cat gifs.
GG Bio, you just won all of general discussion "Here's to the crazy ones. The Misfits, The rebels. The Troublemakers. The round pegs in the square holes.-á |
TheMercenaryKing
StarFleet Enterprises Intrepid Crossing
245
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Posted - 2014.07.15 19:48:00 -
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Altirius Saldiaro wrote:I have a lot of setups programmed on mine for various ships that I use to control my modules, overheating, warping, etc. Like a RR Domi, I just target my RR buddy and say "Computer, Spider Tank" and VA activates all my RR modules. Beats the hell out of having to use the keyboard for shortcuts. www.voiceattack.com is the one I use. Was 8 dollars. Probably others out there or some of you who know how to make programs could make your own. I have mine setup with a custom voice pack, so every command I make, the program responds with a british chick voice. Was trying to find a voice pack that sounds like Aura. Example of a response would be if I say "computer, jump the gate", I have the program respond with "Understood Commander" or whatever you want. Various shortcuts I use are like open map, close map, open market, warp, jump, dock, approach, etc.
Pretty sure this is a EULA violation since the process is automated. |
TheMercenaryKing
StarFleet Enterprises Intrepid Crossing
245
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Posted - 2014.07.15 19:53:00 -
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De'Veldrin wrote:Altirius Saldiaro wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Pine Marten wrote:If isboxer is allowed and lets 1 person use 20+ accounts then this should be a nobrainer. Well I hope it is, sounds awesome. Cheers for the info op. I use it on other games too. Comes in handy on flight simulators. I hate memorizing keyboard bindings, more natural to program voice commands. My guess would be it is allowed since it's not automating the use of the commands. You still have to be at the keyboard and issue the command for anything to happen - in that regard it's no different than the buttons on a razor mouse or a G15 keyboard, both of which are allowed. as long as it's not reacting FOR you, I don't think it's a violation. You could always send in a petition if you want an official answer.
EULA Violation would be ISBoxer doing multiple commands to a single client for one user action (IE a macro that automatically aligns to planet 1)
Within EULA is ISBoxer sending the Same command to multiple clients but the user still has to do the commands manually, looking for planet 1 in the dropdown or something and then pressing Align to. User is still manually doing everything, just being replicated to multiple clients.
CCP defines (by my interpretation of their rules) a Macro as the automation of a process that does multiple commands in game in exchange for one activity.
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Altirius Saldiaro
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
7
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Posted - 2014.07.15 20:47:00 -
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If using macros is against eula, then ccp would have to ban everyone who uses a razor mouse or keyboard with macro keys.
Hell, even the logitech g35 headset has macro buttons on it.
Btw, I cannot program voice attack to align my ship to planet 1. I can program it to hit the align shortcut keybind wben I say align. However, I still have to have planets listed on my overview and have planet 1 selected when I give the voice command to align. |
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ELWhappo Sanchez
7
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Posted - 2014.07.15 21:25:00 -
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the standard free voice recognition software that comes with windows works with eve also. |
De'Veldrin
Black Serpent Technologies The Unthinkables
2572
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Posted - 2014.07.16 01:13:00 -
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TheMercenaryKing wrote:
CCP defines (by my interpretation of their rules) a Macro as the automation of a process that does multiple commands in game in exchange for one activity.
And yet I know of people who use the macro keys on their keyboard and mice to, for example, turn on all of their tanking modules at once. If i was planning to use this, I'd probably solicit a formal response from CCP before I did so, just to be safe. MAMBA is recruiting. -áWhen other folks are whining about a lack of content, we go out and create it. The case of Shrodinger's Hotdropper |
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ISD Atomic Dove
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2014.07.16 07:36:00 -
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Evening,
If you want an official response put it in via the petition system, it will get looked into by the powers that be and they shall respond(depending on backlog)
That will give you a their views on it.
ISD Atomic Dove Ensign Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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Lothros Andastar
The Minutemen The Bastion
160
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Posted - 2014.07.16 07:44:00 -
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ISD Atomic Dove wrote:Evening,
If you want an official response put it in via the petition system, it will get looked into by the powers that be and they shall respond(depending on backlog)
That will give you a their views on it.
Considering "their views" allow people to cheat with ISBoxer, I don't really hold much in their opinion when it comes to this sort of thing. |
Christina Project
Deeper Feelings Inc.
306
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Posted - 2014.07.16 07:47:00 -
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Yeah No this isn't allowed, otoh if people are silly enough to believe that it saves them time, they should be allowed to use it to their disadvantage. - When there's a mew, there's a way! - |
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
1881
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Posted - 2014.07.16 10:20:00 -
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Officially, running any third party software that assists in playing/running EvE is not allowed according to the EULA/TOS. However, as stated many times before by CCP, there are many instances in which CCP chooses not to enforce those rules. What they allow and when they allow it are very much depending on the circumstances. That said, I would advice you to send a support ticket, describing clearly and politely what the program does and what the effect is.
In the mean time I will close this thread as it is not going to give definitive answers but will lead to a third party software > EULA/TOS discussion that for the most part will not be very constructive. ISD Ezwal Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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