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Varnir Penken
Interstellar Strategic Endeavors Inc. Legion of Misfits
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Posted - 2014.06.29 00:03:00 -
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Used to I'd always see around 40k on or more everyday, with probably around 60k players on the weekends. Then it dropped to around 35k on the weekdays. and about 50k on the weekends...now it just seems like it's 30k everyday no matter what time of day it is. What's goin on? |
Paranoid Loyd
752
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Posted - 2014.06.29 00:03:00 -
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Obligatory: EVE is dying "PvE in EVE is a trap to turn you into PvP content, don't confuse it for actual gameplay." Lipbite |
Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
2310
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Posted - 2014.06.29 00:11:00 -
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its summer, go outside, leer at pretty lady's with the rest of us. "Confirming EVE is hot, batshit crazy, and puts out." -Omar Alharazaad "CAKE CANNOT HOLD UP TO BEING A CHARACTER DAMNIT." --áUnsuccessful At Everything |
Varnir Penken
Interstellar Strategic Endeavors Inc. Legion of Misfits
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Posted - 2014.06.29 00:13:00 -
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Good sir, I have started playing EVE during a summer. And it wasn't like this. Summer has nothing to do with it |
Kaiia Gavlas Thessia
Ravens' Nest
41
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Posted - 2014.06.29 00:20:00 -
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Blue donuts are bad, that's why. No reason to be subbed. OUTLAW HORIZON is living in Bleak Lands. Scratch that. OUTLAW HORIZON is living in Placid. Scratch that. OUTLAW HORIZON is living in Molden Heath. Scratch that. OUTLAW HORIZON is living in Bleak Lands... ??? |
Chopper Rollins
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
872
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Posted - 2014.06.29 00:24:00 -
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Ha, you kids. The word 'old' has been loaded with associations: low quality, obsolete, tired. That's because in modern western consumer culture we live long enough for that to seem to be the case, and new is the replacement for best. People ask what's new, not what's best. Where the average lifespan is about 45, old means durable, wise, legitimate.
Yes EvE is mighty old, and for the majority of players the summer means don those mirror sunglasses and ascertain the various attributes of the available jiggling t-shirts.
Damn, son.
Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good. |
Remiel Pollard
The Vigilance Institute
3644
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Posted - 2014.06.29 00:35:00 -
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Varnir Penken wrote:Good sir, I have started playing EVE during a summer. And it wasn't like this. Summer has nothing to do with it
Summer has everything to do with it. This happens every year. You didn't notice when you started because you'd only just started. People who have just started have no idea.
Yes, EVE is old. In our throw-away society, that usually carries connotations of 'obsolete'. But there's a reason for its age - it's success. And the reason it's successful is because it's still the only game that offers what it does, a single-shard meta-gaming multiplayer experience like no other. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita.
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Na Und
Galactronics
217
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Posted - 2014.06.29 00:36:00 -
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Varnir Penken wrote:Used to I'd always see around 40k on or more everyday, with probably around 60k players on the weekends. Then it dropped to around 35k on the weekdays. and about 50k on the weekends...now it just seems like it's 30k everyday no matter what time of day it is. What's goin on?
Ahem. Thought about taking a shower, recently? |
Varnir Penken
Interstellar Strategic Endeavors Inc. Legion of Misfits
1
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Posted - 2014.06.29 00:47:00 -
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Na Und wrote:Varnir Penken wrote:Used to I'd always see around 40k on or more everyday, with probably around 60k players on the weekends. Then it dropped to around 35k on the weekdays. and about 50k on the weekends...now it just seems like it's 30k everyday no matter what time of day it is. What's goin on? Ahem. Thought about taking a shower, recently?
Showers are overrated...:p. It's time to fill up this stand up shower with water and take a bath! |
Varnir Penken
Interstellar Strategic Endeavors Inc. Legion of Misfits
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Posted - 2014.06.29 00:50:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:Varnir Penken wrote:Good sir, I have started playing EVE during a summer. And it wasn't like this. Summer has nothing to do with it Summer has everything to do with it. This happens every year. You didn't notice when you started because you'd only just started. People who have just started have no idea. Yes, EVE is old. In our throw-away society, that usually carries connotations of 'obsolete'. But there's a reason for its age - it's success. And the reason it's successful is because it's still the only game that offers what it does, a single-shard meta-gaming multiplayer experience like no other.
I guess that makes sense. |
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Komi Toran
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.06.29 01:22:00 -
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I think the OP may have a point. My version spends an hour cutting coupons before going to Jita, flies 1 AU/s under the speed limit, and goes to Bingo every Friday. Lately I even catch it muttering about Brave Newbies on its lawn. |
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
3985
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Posted - 2014.06.29 01:39:00 -
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A few more years and EVE will be legally allowed to drink. I shudder at the thought. Sovereignty and Population New Mining Mechanics |
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
3796
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Posted - 2014.06.29 01:40:00 -
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The login numbers are not the highest, but certainly not in a notable decline.
http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility |
Felicity Love
Ka'ra Shabuir Inc.
1973
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Posted - 2014.06.29 01:42:00 -
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In no particular order and with a heavy emphasis on "Your Mileage May Vary" :
Blue Donuts... bad No reason to patrol / defend Sov space, due to "projected force" effects, much less validate that whole "risk versus reward" argument... bad Grinding Sov still sucks... bad General malaise and uneasy feeling about so many core and senior devs leaving and/or being shitcanned... bad Price of PLEX still going up ... bad Waiting for the "big industry release" that has already been delayed once... bad. EVE is not a game well suited to the "instant gratification" crowd.... bad.
"Psssshhhhhhhhhhhhhh" -á-- That ambiguous and pseudo-technical term used by management to describe, to staff, how frakking cool something looks inside their own heads.
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Bloody Slave
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
94
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Posted - 2014.06.29 02:58:00 -
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I really don't know if I must turn the sarcasm on/off warning but I will let you decide for yourself:
EVE is dying.
Tease wrote:Posted - 2003.11.30 04:41:00 - [37]
Edited by: Tease on 30/11/2003 04:46:13
who cares?
there's been GM and Polaris corruption in this game for a long time, particularily when it comes to 2 particular Corps, one of which is the focus of this thread..
This isn't the first time people have witnessed a GM interceding on this Corp's behalf nor the first time Polaris has tried to cover it up ingame and in the forums.. It won't be the last time..
Everyone and their dog knows there's a number of Polaris members and GMs with player alts who seem to benefit from 'coincidence' and 'luck' all the time..
There's not even any point in posting 'proof' about any of it because the mods here will just delete it, they did so 2 weeks ago on Crime&Punishment, they did 2 months ago here, they always have and always will..
CCP won't talk to us anymore, true newbies quit within 24hours due to exploiters and exploiters are never punished..
This game is dying, so who really cares anymore? half of us are just preparing our characters for Ebaying anyway..
Yeah... since 2003, and all here are necrophiles...
(sarcasm of) If your balls are hurt and bleeding don't sit in a pool full of piranhas (note to myself: don't complain in GD) |
Nariya Kentaya
Phoenix funds
1401
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Posted - 2014.06.29 03:20:00 -
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Abrazzar wrote:A few more years and EVE will be legally allowed to drink. I shudder at the thought. Maybe CCP will finally bump it up to M rating so we can have some actual freedom in "design choices", like drugs, hoes, bitches money, kribs. |
Chopper Rollins
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
873
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Posted - 2014.06.29 07:30:00 -
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Nariya Kentaya wrote:Abrazzar wrote:A few more years and EVE will be legally allowed to drink. I shudder at the thought. Maybe CCP will finally bump it down to idiotic rating so we can go completely beige and suburban with things like drugs, hoes, bitches money, kribs.
FYP
Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good. |
Johnny M'gambo
Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2014.06.29 07:41:00 -
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Chopper Rollins wrote:Nariya Kentaya wrote:Abrazzar wrote:A few more years and EVE will be legally allowed to drink. I shudder at the thought. Maybe CCP will finally bump it down to idiotic rating so we can go completely beige and suburban with things like drugs, hoes, bitches money, kribs. FYP
3edgy my fellow noble savage |
Baneken
Arctic Light Inc. Arctic Light
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Posted - 2014.06.29 07:42:00 -
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It's summer in the northern hemisphere, that's what happened, go out and feel the sun. |
000Hunter000
Missiles 'R' Us
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Posted - 2014.06.29 08:40:00 -
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And what about the Worldcup footy? I'm betting that has a lil effect as wel atm.
*old fart alert ON*
I remember the times where u could live in certain hi/low-sec systems and not encounter anyone else for days on end.
Ah... the lovely canmining in a Megathron...
Prolly not good for the game, but i wouldn't mind a smaller crowd... it Always felt like eve was actually huge.
And warp to zero also made eve feel smaller...I liked the part where u had to scout a new system, make bookmarks to and from the gates/belts/stations.
*old fart alert OFF*
But this is eve... u learn to adapt or u quit.
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Dave Stark
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Posted - 2014.06.29 08:48:00 -
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oh look, another eve is dying thread. |
Christus Estnatus Hemanseh
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.06.29 09:26:00 -
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EVE is not getting old, it's actually getting purer.
As it's impossible to purifiy the ore without wasting the useless matrix, then EVE is losing in size what it gains in strength. But the precedents are astounding!:
Quote:1Then Hardenthefuckup, also known as CCP, got up early along with all of his players. They encamped near the Tranquility server. The Nullsec encampment lay in the valley to their north, near the blue doughnout.
2THOR told CCP, GÇ£You have too many players with you for me to drop Nullsec into their hands, because EVE would become arrogant and say, GÇÿIt was my own abilities that delivered me.GÇÖ
3ThatGÇÖs why youGÇÖre to ask in full view of the players, GÇ£Whoever is afraid of losing a ship or is carebearing may go back from EVE Online and return WoW.GÇ¥ So 22,000 players left and 10,000 remained.
4GÇ£There are still too many players,GÇ¥ THOR told CCP. GÇ£Bring them down to hisec and IGÇÖll refine them for you there. Therefore when I say to you, GÇÿThis one will be going with you,GÇÖ heGÇÖll go with you, but no one may go about whom I tell you, GÇÿThis one wonGÇÖt be going with you.GÇÖGÇ¥
5So he brought his soldiers down to Hisec and THOR told CCP, GÇ£You are to cull out everyone who runs missions like a bot from everyone who ganks miners.GÇ¥
6The contingent of players who ganked miners and bumped them numbered 300 men, but everyone else would run missions.
7Then THOR told CCP, GÇ£IGÇÖm going to deliver you with the 300 players who ganked by giving the Nullsec into your control. Send everyone else back to WoW.GÇ¥
8So the players took their ships with them, along with their jump clones, and CCP sent all the rest of the players of EVE back to their WoW guilds, but he retained the 300 eleet. And the Nullsec encampment was below him in the server...
It worked out before! It will work now! Praise the 300 and scorn the 22,000 and the 9,700! There's a bright future ahead, and THOR will pay the bills!
(So we hope...) |
BrundleMeth
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
168
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Posted - 2014.06.29 10:22:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:Varnir Penken wrote:Good sir, I have started playing EVE during a summer. And it wasn't like this. Summer has nothing to do with it Summer has everything to do with it. This happens every year. You didn't notice when you started because you'd only just started. People who have just started have no idea. Yes, EVE is old. In our throw-away society, that usually carries connotations of 'obsolete'. But there's a reason for its age - it's success. And the reason it's successful is because it's still the only game that offers what it does, a single-shard meta-gaming multiplayer experience like no other.
Fixed it
... it's still the only game that offers what it does, another bunch of things nerfed in every new release...[/quote] |
Obunagawe
371
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Posted - 2014.06.29 10:30:00 -
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PLEX prices. |
UltraSplash
Ntak Inc.
8
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Posted - 2014.06.29 10:32:00 -
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Varnir Penken wrote:Used to I'd always see around 40k on or more everyday, with probably around 60k players on the weekends. Then it dropped to around 35k on the weekdays. and about 50k on the weekends...now it just seems like it's 30k everyday no matter what time of day it is. What's goin on?
Its summer go out and get some ,,,,, |
Grunanca
Doughboys Overload Everything
264
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Posted - 2014.06.29 10:45:00 -
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Varnir Penken wrote:Good sir, I have started playing EVE during a summer. And it wasn't like this. Summer has nothing to do with it
Actually it has everything to do with it... Summers are really slow and in august when people come back from vacations/real life in general, things will live up again. Happens every single year. Always have and always will. |
Matilda Cecilia Fock
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
194
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Posted - 2014.06.29 11:30:00 -
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Grunanca wrote:Varnir Penken wrote:Good sir, I have started playing EVE during a summer. And it wasn't like this. Summer has nothing to do with it Actually it has everything to do with it... Summers are really slow and in august when people come back from vacations/real life in general, things will live up again. Happens every single year. Always have and always will.
I wouldn't be so sure.
On june 2013, the lowest averaged weekly PCU spot was recorded on the 27th, at 32,310 users. Remember, this is an average of the daily highest user count in a 7 days period (thursday to thursday, exactly).
With june 2014 soon to end, the highest point reached so far was recorded on the 5th, at 28,402 users.
So june 2014's highest is 4,000 users below june 2013's lowest. Actually we are at 2009 levels, and as july and august severely diminish activity, 2014's absolute lowest may drop below Incarna's.
Numbers don't lie: 20% of the players who were logged in in 2013 aren't logged in in 2014. And CCP just has fired 22% of its employees since december of 2013 (cancelling WoD provided a very convenient reason to dismantle the Atlanta office). Q: So many well known dev's left lately, should we be worried? A: (Jester): Nope. (...) Worry a lot if Fozzie, Masterplan, Rise, Veritas, Bettik, Ytterbium, Scarpia, Arrow, or even Greyscale leaves. Worry a little if Punkturis, karkur, SoniClover, Affinity, Goliath, or Xhagen leaves.
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Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
2320
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Posted - 2014.06.29 11:33:00 -
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Matilda Cecilia Fock wrote:Grunanca wrote:Varnir Penken wrote:Good sir, I have started playing EVE during a summer. And it wasn't like this. Summer has nothing to do with it Actually it has everything to do with it... Summers are really slow and in august when people come back from vacations/real life in general, things will live up again. Happens every single year. Always have and always will. I wouldn't be so sure. On june 2013, the lowest averaged weekly PCU spot was recorded on the 27th, at 32,310 users. Remember, this is an average of the daily highest user count in a 7 days period (thursday to thursday, exactly). With june 2014 soon to end, the highest point reached so far was recorded on the 5th, at 28,402 users. So june 2014's highest is 4,000 users below june 2013's lowest. Actually we are at 2009 levels, and as july and august severely diminish activity, 2014's absolute lowest may drop below Incarna's. Numbers don't lie: 20% of the players who were logged in in 2013 aren't logged in in 2014. And CCP just has fired 22% of its employees since december of 2013 (cancelling WoD provided a very convenient reason to dismantle the Atlanta office). ok then , Pretty ladys in the sun and The World Cup "Confirming EVE is hot, batshit crazy, and puts out." -Omar Alharazaad "CAKE CANNOT HOLD UP TO BEING A CHARACTER DAMNIT." --áUnsuccessful At Everything |
rogue Aldebaran
Rogue Fleet
0
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Posted - 2014.06.29 11:43:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:Varnir Penken wrote:Good sir, I have started playing EVE during a summer. And it wasn't like this. Summer has nothing to do with it Summer has everything to do with it. This happens every year. You didn't notice when you started because you'd only just started. People who have just started have no idea. Yes, EVE is old. In our throw-away society, that usually carries connotations of 'obsolete'. But there's a reason for its age - it's success. And the reason it's successful is because it's still the only game that offers what it does, a single-shard meta-gaming multiplayer experience like no other.
Same date last year had over 6000 more accounts connected to Eve (on a weekly average). So summer has nothing to do with it. You are right though. It happens every year. It is just worst this year!!
6000 accounts divided by the average number of accounts a player has and we are looking probably at around 2500 RL players no longer playing.
Its huge! So the past success Eve had no longer seems to work. The roman empire lasted for a very long time. Still, it met its end like anything else (successful or not). |
MonkeyMagic Thiesant
Shockwave Innovations Surely You're Joking
72
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Posted - 2014.06.29 12:03:00 -
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Actual data here:
http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility
tldr: Eve grew strongly until about 2009, and has basically had the same population since.
Comparing with a year ago isn't very smart, because the first half of 2013 saw a big peak. |
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