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Maxell Snow
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Posted - 2006.06.13 14:46:00 -
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With the advent of such technologies as cloning and horrible weapons of mass destruction, humanity has returned to its original state; a devolution versus the usually perceived great evolution that comes along with technological leaps. Humanity has reverted to the ways of a simple animal. Kill or be killed. Take what you want because you can. Do what you want because it feels good. Odd coming from a Gallente, no? We are perceived as one of the more baseless cultures, recently I have seen a lot that proves this stereotype right. I have seen people act with no regard for those around them, no regard for their feelings, no regard for what lies in their heart. Most recently I found myself falling into the same pattern at the expense of another. It is a vicious trap that can easily snare anyone. Unfortunately, too many accept this fate as it is the easy thing to do.
As pod pilots we are a select group of highly influential people. Our resources are relatively limitless when compared to our planet bound brethren. With this great power comes an even greater responsibility to wield it appropriately. It is easy for anyone of us to fall into a pattern of self depravation. Many do. I have before.
What is the point then? Simpleāas pod pilots we should endeavor to do what is right, versus what is easy. Do not kill simply because you can. Do not take 5 mates, simply because you can. Do what is right. Help those you consider your friends, while respecting their wishes. Do not judge others based on your morals or ethos. Their background is undoubtedly different from your own. It is unfair to judge them on the same scale. With that being said, if they should betray you, slice their throat and relish it as their dying breath escapes their lips.
An industrial, roleplaying corporation, currently recruiting -----------------------------------------------
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Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2006.06.13 14:51:00 -
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Edited by: Rodj Blake on 13/06/2006 14:52:12
I prefer the phrase intelligent design rather than evolution, but you do make a good point.
The best way to stop this degeneration is for the unenlightened to take appropriate steps to enter God's fold.
Once everyone is unified under the benevolent guidance of God and his Amarrian Empire, peace will reign.
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Aiksen
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Posted - 2006.06.13 15:03:00 -
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Originally by: Rodj Blake Edited by: Rodj Blake on 13/06/2006 14:52:12
The best way to stop this degeneration is for the unenlightened to take appropriate steps to enter God's fold.
Once everyone is unified under the benevolent guidance of God and his Amarrian Empire, peace will reign.
Oh yes, let's fight devolution by reverting into a theocratic dictatorship. That will surely cultivate new lines of thought. Brilliant idea there.
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Tarsha Listur
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Posted - 2006.06.13 15:10:00 -
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one day Rodj that God of yours will get you into trouble...
but well put maxell
*All we need is lightning With power and might Striking down the prophets of false As the moon is rising Give us the sign Now let us rise up in awe* |
Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2006.06.13 15:24:00 -
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Originally by: Aiksen
Originally by: Rodj Blake Edited by: Rodj Blake on 13/06/2006 14:52:12
The best way to stop this degeneration is for the unenlightened to take appropriate steps to enter God's fold.
Once everyone is unified under the benevolent guidance of God and his Amarrian Empire, peace will reign.
Oh yes, let's fight devolution by reverting into a theocratic dictatorship. That will surely cultivate new lines of thought. Brilliant idea there.
Might I remind you that the theocratic dictatorship as you disprespectfully call it was the first of the major civilisations to discover jump drive technology and cultivated enough new lines of thought to enslave your moss-eating ancestors.
Dulce et decorum est, pro imperator mori |
Aiksen
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Posted - 2006.06.13 15:39:00 -
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Originally by: Rodj Blake Might I remind you that the theocratic dictatorship as you disprespectfully call it was the first of the major civilisations to discover jump drive technology and cultivated enough new lines of thought to enslave your moss-eating ancestors.
You may remind me all you like. May I turn remind you that these events took place long ago? While others have moved on, you have not. It might have worked well all those years ago, but now your method of government is obsolete, and you, along with the other Empires, are holding humanity back.
And these "new" lines of thought should not be a source of pride for you, but rather one of shame. You have thought up new ways to torture, enslave, and destroy those you deem beneath you. Congratulations, now try and think up something truly beneficial.
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Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2006.06.13 15:40:00 -
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Our methodology was extremely beneficial to the Udorians and Ni-Kunni.
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Aiksen
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Posted - 2006.06.13 15:55:00 -
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Beneficial? Only in your own twisted mind. You turned them into the image of your own culture, and forced the eradication of their own. In order for them to have any "benefit", they had to adapt your arrogant cultural doctrine. Given time, who knows what might have come of the Ni-Kunni, if your kind had not interfered? Who knows what art, literature and music we might have missed? No one, and we have your sick ideology to thank for it.
Chief Executive Officer Head of Weapons Research |
Kaleigh Doyle
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Posted - 2006.06.13 16:30:00 -
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Greed and self interest are predictable Max. It's the ones that think they're doing right that cause the most damage.
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Darina Rea
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Posted - 2006.06.13 16:56:00 -
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I agree with you Maxell, doing what is right isn't easy at all.
Doing what is left is however not so easy either... Sorry, my desire to make a horrible pun got the better of me.
However, greed, desire and selfishness are also part of who and what we are. And a part of what drive us to greater heights. Sometimes at the expence of others ofcourse. Just make sure you don't enjoy destroying to much. Or you will find yourself alone facing a hostile galaxy.
Partners are like bread crumbs, you pick them up and toss them aside after awhile. Corporations are like shelters, sooner or later they will fall apart. Friends are bound to you by gentle chackles, but be prepared because even the hardest steel will fail.
Life free. Enjoy living.
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Jubei Dong
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Posted - 2006.06.13 17:06:00 -
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Originally by: Maxell Snow Do not take 5 mates, simply because you can.
But if yoo DOO want five mate, maybe for just one night? Don't wolly, Fedelar Lumlunnels is hele to suppry yoo.
Jubei Dong Senior Escort Services Associate Federal Rumrunners
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Rana Ash
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Posted - 2006.06.13 17:12:00 -
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Originally by: Kaleigh Doyle Greed and self interest are predictable Max. It's the ones that think they're doing right that cause the most damage.
Indeed, and for to quote history. There is usually some deity involved, IE "god is on our side".
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Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2006.06.13 17:17:00 -
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Originally by: Kaleigh Doyle Greed and self interest are predictable Max. It's the ones that think they're doing right that cause the most damage.
Is what you do right?
Or is it wrong?
Dulce et decorum est, pro imperator mori |
Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2006.06.13 17:18:00 -
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Originally by: Aiksen
Originally by: Rodj Blake Might I remind you that the theocratic dictatorship as you disprespectfully call it was the first of the major civilisations to discover jump drive technology and cultivated enough new lines of thought to enslave your moss-eating ancestors.
You may remind me all you like. May I turn remind you that these events took place long ago? While others have moved on, you have not. It might have worked well all those years ago, but now your method of government is obsolete, and you, along with the other Empires, are holding humanity back.
And these "new" lines of thought should not be a source of pride for you, but rather one of shame. You have thought up new ways to torture, enslave, and destroy those you deem beneath you. Congratulations, now try and think up something truly beneficial.
Exactly the sort of ingratitude that we've come to expect from deviant Minmatars.
Dulce et decorum est, pro imperator mori |
Derran
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Posted - 2006.06.13 17:26:00 -
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Edited by: Derran on 13/06/2006 17:26:28
Originally by: Rodj Blake
Originally by: Kaleigh Doyle Greed and self interest are predictable Max. It's the ones that think they're doing right that cause the most damage.
Is what you do right?
It is when it speaks with the voice of her conscience. That is the only thing that really matters when it comes right down to it. You, unlike her, don't act in accordance with your own conscience. You say it is god's will to justify whatever act you perform, good or bad.
You also haven't responded to Aiksen's second point, no doubt because it is true. There is no telling what a once free society that was able to think on its own could have accomplished before you conquered them and forced your dogma upon them.
Oh, and I have my doubts as to your claim to developing those jump drives first. The gallente seemed have to developed the same thing around a similiar time and I am sure the Jovians were well beyond you before that. So I guess that must make you inferior to them. Imagine that.
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Kaleigh Doyle
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Posted - 2006.06.13 17:31:00 -
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I don't live in a world of black and white, Mr. Blake. It doesn't matter whether my actions are right or wrong, its how they affect the lives of others that's important.
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Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2006.06.13 17:33:00 -
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Originally by: Kaleigh Doyle I don't live in a world of black and white, Mr. Blake. It doesn't matter whether my actions are right or wrong, its how they affect the lives of others that's important.
And how many lives did you affect with your gladiatorial contests?
Dulce et decorum est, pro imperator mori |
Maxell Snow
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Posted - 2006.06.13 17:34:00 -
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Ironic to hear from some of the worst chime in on my point...
Personally, for me, religion is for those that need an answer or a justification to their reality. Can't fault them for that as long as they do not push their ways on others. An industrial, roleplaying corporation, currently recruiting -----------------------------------------------
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Kaleigh Doyle
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Posted - 2006.06.13 17:38:00 -
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Originally by: Rodj Blake
And how many lives did you affect with your gladiatorial contests?
Billions.
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Eris Davion
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Posted - 2006.06.13 17:50:00 -
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Originally by: Kaleigh Doyle Greed and self interest are predictable Max. It's the ones that think they're doing right that cause the most damage.
If you are speaking of those who would protect us from ourselves, or who insist on carrying us when what we need is to learn how to walk, then I would agree completely.
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Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2006.06.13 17:55:00 -
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Originally by: Kaleigh Doyle
Originally by: Rodj Blake
And how many lives did you affect with your gladiatorial contests?
Billions.
If anything illustrates the degeneracy of those who refuse to allow God into their lives, this is it.
Countless lives destroyed in the name of entertainment.
Disgusting.
Dulce et decorum est, pro imperator mori |
Derran
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Posted - 2006.06.13 18:05:00 -
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Originally by: Rodj Blake
Countless lives destroyed in the name of entertainment.
Disgusting.
As compared to the the ones you destroyed in the name of 'enlightment'? That doesn't exactly put you on a moral high ground either.
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Kaleigh Doyle
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Posted - 2006.06.13 18:14:00 -
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Originally by: Rodj Blake Disgusting.
You're making a fine example for my point Blake.
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Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2006.06.13 18:14:00 -
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Originally by: Derran
Originally by: Rodj Blake
Countless lives destroyed in the name of entertainment.
Disgusting.
As compared to the the ones you destroyed in the name of 'enlightment'? That doesn't exactly put you on a moral high ground either.
We do what we do not because we enjoy it, but because it's the right thing to do.
Not only for us, but for our slaves and their descendents.
Dulce et decorum est, pro imperator mori |
Able Citizen
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Posted - 2006.06.13 19:00:00 -
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Originally by: Aiksen
Originally by: Rodj Blake Might I remind you that the theocratic dictatorship as you disprespectfully call it was the first of the major civilisations to discover jump drive technology and cultivated enough new lines of thought to enslave your moss-eating ancestors.
You may remind me all you like. May I turn remind you that these events took place long ago? While others have moved on, you have not. It might have worked well all those years ago, but now your method of government is obsolete, and you, along with the other Empires, are holding humanity back.
Even the so-called 'liberal' Federation is participating in retarding the evolution of humanity by insisting that those that live within their borders NEED their bureaucracy while, in the same breath, they neglect the acute needs of specific situations; not the least of which include the horrific events that occurred in Reschard and the ongoing struggle of the Intaki.
Those devils that sit in the seats of power discourage innovation and want to retain scientific advances for those they deem worthy.
Pod pilots would serve their planetbound bretheren well if they encouraged more of them to join us. Moving outside the borders of the established empire into the frontier will work towards us moving to the next stage of human development.
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Kaleigh Doyle
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Posted - 2006.06.13 19:19:00 -
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Able, I think one of Max's main points was that technology isn't a substitute for cultural evolution or personal responsibility. In fact, I'd go so far as to say the pod community is a relapse in humanity.
Consider the ratio of crazed deviants and serial murderers roaming through space or tyrannical meglomaniacs trying to take over the outer territories. Do we really wish to expose this insanity to an entire planet full of people?
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Ottom Ephesianos
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Posted - 2006.06.13 19:21:00 -
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Edited by: Ottom Ephesianos on 13/06/2006 19:25:23 Edited by: Ottom Ephesianos on 13/06/2006 19:24:06 Yes, the current situations of interaction within the universe is a dissapointment to the testaments of mankinds previous accomplishments. The institutions in place within our world unfortunately depend on the continuation of the cycles you Maxell are describing. A change is in order, of course..however I fear the carnage required to make the changes needed is going to require more bloodshed than our world has seen as of yet; and hopefully ever. Not only do peaceloving indivduals need to put their differences asside and work together to form long lasting structurally integral support structures for defence and protection, but CONCORD itself has to be recognized as the passive intity it is. And not looked at as a force providing protection for the less fortunate but as a structure maintaining faulty cycles, leaving the protectionand care of humanity in our hands.
-Ottom out
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Aiksen
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Posted - 2006.06.13 19:24:00 -
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Originally by: Able Citizen Even the so-called 'liberal' Federation is participating in retarding the evolution of humanity by insisting that those that live within their borders NEED their bureaucracy while, in the same breath, they neglect the acute needs of specific situations; not the least of which include the horrific events that occurred in Reschard and the ongoing struggle of the Intaki.
Those devils that sit in the seats of power discourage innovation and want to retain scientific advances for those they deem worthy.
Pod pilots would serve their planetbound bretheren well if they encouraged more of them to join us. Moving outside the borders of the established empire into the frontier will work towards us moving to the next stage of human development.
I quite agree. We need to leave this tyranny behind us altogether if we are to advance mankind, and as you say, moving into the frontier systems and there creating a true beacon of freedom would be a great start.
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Pezzle
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Posted - 2006.06.13 21:02:00 -
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Maxell you nearly sound like an proud member of the Empire.
The Amarr people stand for freedom for all its citizens. Freedom from murder, from starvation, a freedom from fear. Yes, the technology unlocked has brought greater strife, as is *always* the case. This is why we must proceed carefully, measuring our steps, understanding the full impact of changes upon our society and our very souls.
We must also be wary of social changes. Allowing people to do as they please may sound appealing, it really may, but where will this lead us? Tearing at each other like savages, running amok like wild dogs, people preying upon each other for perverse reasons, fallen to greed or other wickedness. Only with patience and caring, with lessons and effort can we ensure that people will act in the interest of their brother or sister men, and not so much for the self.
The Empire so many claim to hate has foundations in protection of its people, of unity under a common banner not just for ourselves, but for all people in the cluster. These are things that your childrens children will thank you for. We stand against the tide of evils that threaten to plunge this cluster into darkness, your future generations throwing rocks at each other in the middle of ancient ruined cities.. all that remains of a once proud society.
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Maxell Snow
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Posted - 2006.06.14 00:20:00 -
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Originally by: Pezzle Maxell you nearly sound like an proud member of the Empire.
The Amarr people stand for freedom...
Why be proud of holding allegence to any government entity or religious faction who's necessity is to police its own? Everyone has proven my point better than any words from me could have. See how a message of humanity's state is polluted with personal attacks and political ramblings?
With all this being said, keep in mind that my primary duty is to my corporation and its members. I do not allow personal feelings to get in the way of my management responsibilities. I can only live my life as I feel is best and honorable. I can't live others' for them. An industrial, roleplaying corporation, currently recruiting -----------------------------------------------
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