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Amelia Carac
Mining Mania
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Posted - 2014.06.06 17:55:00 -
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I notice no one is going to war anymore, now that the power house big blocs are in, they all seem content to just leave eachother alone and not go to war, has nullsec finally hit the end to where u are a pet for a big bloc if u want anything to do with nullsec sov, or will these power blocs ever go to war with eachother like real invasion war. |
Machiavelli's Nemesis
Angry Mustellid
479
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Posted - 2014.06.06 18:00:00 -
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Yeah, it's sad to see the supposed endgame content fall to farming in perfect safety by consensus.
If only nullbears had a way to detect cloaked ships in their systems, it would inject a whole new lease of life into the region!
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Deen Wispa
Justified Chaos
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Posted - 2014.06.06 19:04:00 -
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Unlikely for things to change and it will be like this for awhile. There is some excitement in various parts of other parts of null, low, or FW space but as a whole EVE has stagnated.
I hate to say it but EVE is dead or slowly dying. CCP just laid off 46 employees, this year has experienced a big decline in membership (see CSM voter turnout article), most news sites like TMC barely write anything exciting about EVE since there is nothing exciting to cover. Even Jesters blog shut down since there is nothing to write about. #EveisKaput High Five. Yeah! C'est La Eve . |
Moore McRay
Starl1ght Robbery 1nc.
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Posted - 2014.06.06 19:16:00 -
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They'll go to war again as soon as they fiddle with the moon minerals or anything that makes one region more attractive for isk farming than the other i guess
just a guess, i'm not THAT familiar with null since - like mentioned - isk farm battles but i've heard that "oh noes eve is at it's end" before so meh... |
thetwilitehour
GoonWaffe
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Posted - 2014.06.06 20:05:00 -
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What makes you think we aren't setting up for the real war, against high sec? |
Amelia Carac
Mining Mania
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Posted - 2014.06.06 20:10:00 -
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Deen Wispa wrote: I hate to say it but EVE is dead or slowly dying. CCP just laid off 46 employees, this year has experienced a big decline in membership
Thats only because they stopped making world of darkness thats why people got laid off.
thetwilitehour wrote:What makes you think we aren't setting up for the real war, against high sec?
Please my character age may be young but I am sure as hell not, goons have already done their burn jita, war against high sec miners and all that crap already... goons going to war with highsec yeah ok, go fight a real war and take more regions. |
Kevben
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.06.06 20:14:00 -
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didn`t you know, nullsec is the care bear regions now a days. |
Almost Finished
Almost Finished...
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Posted - 2014.06.07 00:22:00 -
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Something big is being planned but unfortunately it looks like everyone against NC
https://i.imgur.com/BohoFez.png |
Dato Koppla
Elite Guards
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Posted - 2014.06.07 02:01:00 -
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Null has always been boring blobfests with blues for like 20 jumps in every direction. Small gang PvP is what has always fueled Eve and is still alive in lowsec. Sure there are blobs there as well, but there are still many goodfights to be had. |
Loraine Gess
Confedeferate Union of Tax Legalists
365
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Posted - 2014.06.07 02:24:00 -
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HERO just evicted the russians from catch, the rusblock which has been engaged in a smouldering war for many months previously, including the largest and most destructive battle EVE has ever seen....
Totally no one going to war anymore |
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Christopher Mabata
Dominion Tenebrarum New Eden's Misfits Alliance
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Posted - 2014.06.07 04:49:00 -
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Well it was announced that the major Null powers were taking a break from campaigning and the "Summer Content Provider" would be the Providence region. At least i distinctively remember that being posted somewhere by a reputable source. Odds are the summer war scene will be quiet but eventually space politics will jam someones gears and they'll pull out the big guns to get rid of it.
Plus designing conquest of a region is no easy task, it requires some planning, which for all we know is underway as we speak. Christopher "The Mabata" CEO, Black Ops Admiral, And Head US TZ Diplo Dominion Tenebrarum / New Eden's Misfits Alliance / The Dark Corner Coalition |
Trinkets friend
Sudden Buggery
1485
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Posted - 2014.06.07 06:47:00 -
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"seeding blops cyno alts into Geminate" you mean? J's before K's. ::brofist:: http://www.localectomy.blogspot.com.au
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Bad Messenger
Nasranite Watch Heiian Conglomerate
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Posted - 2014.06.07 07:58:00 -
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CCP is focusing on new player experience and forget older players, so kind of yes, EVE is dying but only for older players because CCP does not bring new content for them.
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Catalytic morphisis
Rock Huggers Inc The Pears of Anguish
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Posted - 2014.06.07 10:26:00 -
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Deen Wispa wrote:I hate to say it but EVE is dead or slowly dying. CCP just laid off 46 employees, this year has experienced a big decline in membership (see CSM voter turnout article), most news sites like TMC barely write anything exciting about EVE since there is nothing exciting to cover. Even Jesters blog shut down since there is nothing to write about. #EveisKaput
People have been saying this for the last 9 years now, Still makes me chuckle every time |
Froggy Storm
Paragon Trust The Bastion
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Posted - 2014.06.07 11:33:00 -
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Saying that there isn't anything in nul is especially odd, seeing as the nul blocks have been deployed in one form or another for the majority of the last year.
Sorry to disappoint but that level of constant activity isn't the usual. 6VDT and BR5R can't be going on every week even with limitless resources.
Botlord accords not withstanding it will shake up again when there has been a catalyst to disrupt things and the rest and will to get back to it on all sides. Until then expect boarder skirmishing and the occasional proxy war. |
Anozeph
Icendus Corux Quam'Nocent
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Posted - 2014.06.08 08:02:00 -
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all it takes is one slip up, one argument and null will be transformed into a shitstorm once again.
someone should act as a provocateur and start some conflicts between the big alliances from the inside :3 |
Alek Azam
Screaming Hayabusa
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Posted - 2014.06.08 08:22:00 -
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Needed someone to say something about someone else's girlfriend at Fanfest again. Blog: http://sellyourmainbro.blogspot.co.uk/
Twitter: @_Alek_Azam_ |
Charlie Firpol
Noob Mercs Monkeys with Guns.
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Posted - 2014.06.08 11:48:00 -
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Bad Messenger wrote:CCP is focusing on new player experience and forget older players, so kind of yes, EVE is dying but only for older players because CCP does not bring new content for them.
CCP needs to add more lvl 4 missions so BM gets some content to do. |
Xuixien
The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People
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Posted - 2014.06.08 14:54:00 -
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US NullSec is a dumb, boring, stupid mess.
At least on the China server they lose Titans every week and actually fight. This is-á a signature. |
Luwc
Biohazard. WINMATAR.
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Posted - 2014.06.10 07:49:00 -
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Short answer :
YES.
I think you are best of joining one of the smaller more independent groups such as Black Legion or Pandemic Legion.
Or go NPC Null Sec. basically the same benefits without the sov struggle. http://hugelolcdn.com/i/267520.gif |
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Catalytic morphisis
Rock Huggers Inc The Pears of Anguish
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Posted - 2014.06.10 08:36:00 -
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something shall kick off, even if I have to go to fanfest and run around screaming ramblings of the rapture at people wearing my tin foil hat and nothing else! |
Cearain
Goose Swarm Coalition
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Posted - 2014.06.11 17:53:00 -
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It has to do with the personalities that lead the large alliances.
In eve's null sec golden age you had BOB who would wage war just to wage war. Like Genghis Khan, it was just what they did in game.
After Goonswarm disbanded them and Mittani took over lets just say null sec became much more agrarian. It's what he and his alliance does. Even the burn jita campaign is ribboned with "isk efficiency." A war like maximum damage had not isk efficiency concerns. It was financially not bright but it was fun. Livened things up and helped eve make it to mainstream papers like the new york times.
Of course, the Goon way is how you stay in power. You keep amassing and farming resources and making friends (like goonswarm) as opposed to making enemies and going on risky and foolish wars (Like BOB). But it also makes for a boring game when every "war" is decided before it starts.
Goonswarm said they wanted to ruin the game for everyone else and they are doing a good job. Just not the way anyone thought they would. Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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Voyager Arran
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.06.11 19:08:00 -
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As alluring as it is to go "**** diplomacy" and burn down everything for its own sake, the end result is that you lose everything to become content for other people.
See: TEST |
Cearain
Goose Swarm Coalition
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Posted - 2014.06.11 20:09:00 -
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Voyager Arran wrote:As alluring as it is to go "**** diplomacy" and burn down everything for its own sake, the end result is that you lose everything to become content for other people.
See: TEST
This is true. Although I don't think TEST ever was in a position of power where they could decide to make null sec exciting.
BOB is the alliance that had power and used it for exciting, if irrational, wars, instead of farming and resource hording. BOB had a good run but it was not going to last, even if they didn't have a disgruntled director disband them.
BOB brought exciting times for null sec though. Since then null sec has been very rational and bland.
Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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Flyinghotpocket
Amarrian Vengeance Team Amarrica
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Posted - 2014.06.11 21:21:00 -
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Xuixien wrote:US NullSec is a dumb, boring, stupid mess.
At least on the China server they lose Titans every week and actually fight. Were i live there is no point in logging in US timezone because there is nobody to pvp against. basically if you want to play eve and pvp log in EU tz. |
Maeltstome
Twisted Insanity. The Kadeshi
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Posted - 2014.06.12 16:31:00 -
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Deen Wispa wrote:Unlikely for things to change and it will be like this for awhile. There is some excitement in various parts of other parts of null, low, or FW space but as a whole EVE has stagnated. I hate to say it but EVE is dead or slowly dying. CCP just laid off 46 employees, this year has experienced a big decline in membership (see CSM voter turnout article), most news sites like TMC barely write anything exciting about EVE since there is nothing exciting to cover. Even Jesters blog shut down since there is nothing to write about. #EveisKaput
The plethora of threads involving "no reason to fight in 0.0" might be some indication, they are easy to spot if you filter 'locked' topics.
Faction wars gets flamed, but 1 pilot can contest systems and this requires reaction. In 0.0 it requires fleets of hundreds or thousands to achieve even small changes. 90% TiDi Ensues and people wonder why no one in 0.0 is having a war? Because it's boring and tedious.
Until small scale skirmishes and battles in 0.0 are capable of threatening sovereignty, people will spend there time care-bearing and hoping a 10 hour fleet battle at 1/10th speed can be avoided as long as possible.
Meanwhile they join CODE. and other such Hi-Sec activities funded by this carebearing because they have nothing to fight for, no one to fight and no motivation to get into the 10000000th interceptor fleet that they've been in since the interdiction immunity was added and fly directly into another suicide fleet from another alliance.
I'd rather gank freighters and taste tears, wouldn't you? |
Eternum Praetorian
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.06.13 22:39:00 -
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Ahem.... (clears throat)
Once the goonswarm / Band of Brother's thing ended do to shotty Sov mechanics (thx's CCP!), which was a feud over both ego and at the time the most epic region of null sec, CCP then thought that it would be a good idea to "rebalance" null sec. Epic long story short.... the net effect of this was that all of null sec becomes extremely valuable.
What does a (mostly) uniformly valuable null sec--or let's say close enough for arguments sake-- get you? Stagnate, lazy, fat and bored eve players. But even better you get EULA breaking ISK sales on the internet. Despite the easy availability of PLEX in game, if you google anything along the lines of Buy ISK you get close to 1,000,000 hits.
So not only are the null sec sheep getting lazy and bored, they are all unknowingly (or perhaps not so unknowingly) being led by leaders who are banking real money. That real money is dependent on under the table negotiations that help keep the status quo in null sec for the sake of real life profiteering.
So as our beloved devs continue to pretend like this is not happening, real people get to buy boats and set down payments on new houses (all with money that the IRS cannot tax.)
And Why Is So That Bad Hmmm.... let's see...
All the while... EVE's seemingly stable subscription base is becoming more and more buffed by "the power of two". In other words how many people do you know have 1 alt? 2 alts? In null sec... 5,7 or 10 alts? If CCP did not keep such a tight lip on overall subscriptions one might easily see that 1/4 to 1/3 of all people online are in fact... alt's.
So the current faggotry seen in null sec is actually a symptom of a much larger phenomena. And no EVE is not dieing, because to many people in null are making real life coin. Eve is simply... losing it's luster.
Prepare for Ninja ISD deleting of post! Incoming!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111
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Alternative Splicing
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.06.13 22:55:00 -
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Maeltstome wrote:Meanwhile they join CODE. and other such Hi-Sec activities funded by this carebearing because they have nothing to fight for, no one to fight and no motivation to get into the 10000000th interceptor fleet that they've been in since the interdiction immunity was added and fly directly into another suicide fleet from another alliance.
This, very much so. However, this too will stagnate as they become fatted and bored after a hundred or so freighters. While CODE. et al. definitely does god's work, people will grow hungry for wild game, for the thrill of the hunt, and the sting of battle. Shooting dodo birds all day gets boring too. |
Cearain
Goose Swarm Coalition
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Posted - 2014.06.14 02:27:00 -
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Eternum Praetorian
I'm pretty sure mittani is making more money legitimately from the ads on his blog, where people want to read and post super serious articles on internet spaceships, than he would from any sort of eula breaching isk sales.
Legitimate plex already brings in allot of isk - plenty for most players. I really don't see why there would be much of a market to what save 2 dollars per billion isk or something?
But I admit I really don't know, and there are allot of dumb people in the world. Do you have any actual evidence this is happening? Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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Eternum Praetorian
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
1176
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Posted - 2014.06.14 02:42:00 -
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Cearain wrote:Eternum Praetorian
I'm pretty sure mittani is making more money legitimately from the ads on his blog, where people want to read and post super serious articles on internet spaceships, than he would from any sort of eula breaching isk sales.
Legitimate plex already brings in allot of isk - plenty for most players. I really don't see why there would be much of a market to what save 2 dollars per billion isk or something?
But I admit I really don't know, and there are allot of dumb people in the world. Do you have any actual evidence this is happening?
Yes, but nothing that would not appear to be more than forum hearsay from your persopective. The only (and best) evidence you really need is googling "buy eve online isk". Unless you think that CCP is creating all of those websites as a tactic to bait and ban pilots who access them, then it begs the question.... who is funding them?
Large alliances and in game ISK Tycoons that live in them. IMO, finding an alternative explanation is not so easy. How else are all of those websites there?
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