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General Apocalypse
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Posted - 2006.05.24 18:52:00 -
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Dear EVE player and forum *****s .Please Stop whining about the game . The DEV's are not blind nor stupid they made this game very carefully , the game is very well balanced - so stop floding the forums whit usless topics 
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Naughty Boy
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Posted - 2006.05.24 18:53:00 -
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That's particularly rich from someone who posted a whine thread about the projectiles not using cap anymore earlier this week.
NB.
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.05.24 18:54:00 -
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Originally by: General Apocalypse Dear EVE player and forum *****s .
Hi
Quote: Please Stop whining about the game.
No
Quote: The DEV's are not blind nor stupid
Don't tempt me
Quote: they made this game very carefully
Really, don't tempt me
Quote: the game is very well balanced
Thank you for my new sig
Quote: so stop floding the forums whit usless topics 
What, like this one?
Originally by: General Apocalypse the game is very well balanced
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Xori Ruscuv
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Posted - 2006.05.24 18:54:00 -
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Originally by: General Apocalypse the game is very well balanced
What th...
Oh hey, you got me there! Good one! ROFL!
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SengH
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Posted - 2006.05.24 19:06:00 -
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you need to add tux's graph about the dps of close range ships next to that...
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Leandro Salazar
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Posted - 2006.05.24 19:28:00 -
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And a link to TheKiller8's latest flash which is a tribute to carrier and bloodline balance...
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Kilo Paskaa
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Posted - 2006.05.24 20:05:00 -
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Originally by: Leandro Salazar And a link to TheKiller8's latest flash which is a tribute to carrier and bloodline balance...
I WILL DESTROY YOU! [Insert here singing AK&s] --------
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Kaylana Syi
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Posted - 2006.05.24 21:37:00 -
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Originally by: Sarmaul
Originally by: General Apocalypse Dear EVE player and forum *****s .
Hi
Quote: Please Stop whining about the game.
No
Quote: The DEV's are not blind nor stupid
Don't tempt me
Quote: they made this game very carefully
Really, don't tempt me
Quote: the game is very well balanced
Thank you for my new sig
Quote: so stop floding the forums whit usless topics 
What, like this one?
I am so sorry they didn't hire you to fix their blatent problems... you know soooo much. Don't let the people patting you on the back every chance they get give you the right to criticize the game or the dev's every chance you get. CCP runs a business first and formost... their product is EVE and it is very good. Nothing is perfect... get over it or quit...again...

Originally by: "Oveur" I don't react to threats any better than you do
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.05.24 22:47:00 -
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Originally by: Kaylana Syi I am so sorry they didn't hire you to fix their blatent problems... you know soooo much. Don't let the people patting you on the back every chance they get give you the right to criticize the game or the dev's every chance you get. CCP runs a business first and formost... their product is EVE and it is very good. Nothing is perfect... get over it or quit...again...
I pay each month to play this game just like everyone else. When promises are repeatedly broken, when features are repeatedly delayed, when more new content released without proper testing, when game balance is virtually non-existant in some areas, and all the other issues that affect the quality and enjoyment I get out of this game I get quite wound up. I could either write 10 angry letters to CCP every day or talk about it on the forums with similarly ****ed-off people.
A quick look at the General Discussion, Ships and Modules, and Game Development forums shows that I am most definatly not alone in the way I feel about CCP and EVE at this time. In fact, in this thread alone there are 5 people mocking the original poster for his thread yet for some reason you decided to single out me and make it personal. And ss for knowing "sooo much ", you have no idea what I know.
In the future if you have a problem with either myself or anyone else criticizing CCP, either take it up via evemail or contact the moderators and try and have my posts removed. You may wish to combine the individual emails to the moderators into a couple of larger ones otherwise you will end up flooding their inbox due to the amount of reports about unhappy people complaining on the forums you will be sending.
Okay?
Originally by: General Apocalypse the game is very well balanced
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Leandro Salazar
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Posted - 2006.05.24 23:32:00 -
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Edited by: Leandro Salazar on 24/05/2006 23:32:46
Originally by: Kaylana Syi their product is EVE and it is very good. Nothing is perfect... get over it or quit...again...
Yes, EVE is very good. That even the critics pay their bill and post here is testament to that. But it is rather unbalanced in many regards and far from perfect too, with some of its shortcomings being rather blatant, even despite being around for quite a while. And if people like Sarmaul would not voice their criticism, often in in depth analysis, it would never get closer to perfection. These people most certainly do a lot more for EVE than mindless fanbois like the OP, and any ridicule in this thread is well deserved imho.
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Originally by: General Apocalypse the game is very well balanced
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General Apocalypse
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Posted - 2006.05.25 04:07:00 -
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Originally by: Naughty Boy That's particularly rich from someone who posted a whine thread about the projectiles not using cap anymore earlier this week.
NB.
It wase't whining but an attempt to stop a feature to be deployed 2 TQ. Now that it's in the game there's nothing 2 be done .
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Tiuwaz
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Posted - 2006.05.25 04:24:00 -
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<3 Sarmaul
Originally by: Oveur ****! Lets nerf it!
To the nerfmobile!
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Daos Leghki
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Posted - 2006.05.25 05:38:00 -
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While it is true that there are a great deal of whine threads that are simply "OMG, I fought a ship and I lost, my setup was UBER, it's unbalanced, nerf the other guy," there is a good deal of constructive criticism going on.
Notably, Sarmaul is one of those people that is the most constructive in their criticism, usually providing actual data to back things up. If only he didn't focus only on Minmatar 
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General Apocalypse
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Posted - 2006.05.25 06:47:00 -
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Since ppl can't keep their hands of the keyboard i propose 2 create a special sections of the forums where they coud whine all day long and not flod the forum whit s***** topics. Whad do pll say aout that ?

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Ithildin
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Posted - 2006.05.25 07:00:00 -
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Originally by: General Apocalypse Since ppl can't keep their hands of the keyboard i propose 2 create a special sections of the forums where they coud whine all day long and not flod the forum whit s***** topics. Whad do pll say aout that ?
First off, stop putting your sig in your normal text. You aren't allowed to put images in the normal text window unless they are standard sized smileys.
If you are even half serious about this suggestion, then you'd soon find that it'd be impossible to police. You'd have to have staff sitting on Ships and Modules forum subjectly evaluating each topic whether it is allowed - it's not going to happen.
And if it is, then they can move your thred there. You are being hypocrital, you know. New sig coming soonV Drone musing (MC-boards) |

Testy Mctest
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Posted - 2006.05.25 07:07:00 -
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Oh look, an Amarr player who thinks the game is fine, how quaint!
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Testy Mctest
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Posted - 2006.05.25 07:08:00 -
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Originally by: Kaylana Syi Don't let the people patting you on the back every chance they get
Methinks osmeone is jealous of not getting any pats on the back!
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Meridius
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Posted - 2006.05.25 07:09:00 -
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Originally by: Testy Mctest Oh look, an Amarr player who thinks the game is fine, how quaint!
Yeah cause it's Amarr who have the most overpowered ships right?  - _____
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Voculus
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Posted - 2006.05.25 08:10:00 -
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Quote: I am so sorry they didn't hire you to fix their blatent problems... you know soooo much. Don't let the people patting you on the back every chance they get give you the right to criticize the game or the dev's every chance you get. CCP runs a business first and formost... their product is EVE and it is very good. Nothing is perfect... get over it or quit...again...
Sarmaul, though abrasive at times, fights the good fight, especially for us Minmatar characters. I see a lot of good graphs, facts, and figures in his posts. Hard to argue with those, I reckon.
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Serj Darek
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Posted - 2006.05.25 08:25:00 -
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Originally by: General Apocalypse Since ppl can't keep their hands of the keyboard i propose 2 create a special sections of the forums where they coud whine all day long and not flod the forum whit s***** topics. Whad do pll say aout that ?

That sounds a bit like whine to me?  No one is forcing you to read the posts? And yet you start a thread whining about whiners?
Fix the Typhoon description! 3 years in the making!
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Testy Mctest
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Posted - 2006.05.25 08:27:00 -
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Originally by: Meridius
Yeah cause it's Amarr who have the most overpowered ships right? 
Facts are irrelevent, I just like whining.
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Bacchuss
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Posted - 2006.05.25 08:36:00 -
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Originally by: Sarmaul Edited by: Sarmaul on 24/05/2006 22:56:00 nm, it's not worth it
respect that
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Bryan Durl
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Posted - 2006.05.25 09:09:00 -
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Originally by: General Apocalypse
Originally by: Naughty Boy That's particularly rich from someone who posted a whine thread about the projectiles not using cap anymore earlier this week.
NB.
It wase't whining but an attempt to stop a feature to be deployed 2 TQ. Now that it's in the game there's nothing 2 be done .
Not that it affects me in the slightest, but i don't think projectiles should use any cap... lets compare, lasers use no ammo (only cap(and lots of it)) so why not make it pretty much the opposite for projectiles? they use Ammo (and they do use alot of it, especially with autocannons) and no Cap. See that seems fair i think. Again, this doesn't really affect me. -------------------
How did i get here?
Originally by: Chode Rizoum kill or die trying
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Kalaan Oratay
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Posted - 2006.05.25 09:20:00 -
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Anti-whine whines are the bane of my existance.
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Redsteel
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Posted - 2006.05.25 09:23:00 -
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EVE is a really great game. But we are not talking here about how great it is, we all play..
It's strange how devs handle problems and how they prioritise issues.
I will comment few examples.
Carriers bugged, unballanced bonuses, usseless bonuses. Devs approach? "Capital ship storage is properly capped at 5k. This fixes a capital ship corporation hangar overload exploit."
Lasers (tachs) first nerf them then boost them. why nerf them? too strong it seems. why boost them? well, because "not worth over beams" :/
Typhoon A dev said once "not a bad ship".. indeed, not bad (not bad, lol) with tons of max skills in complete different areas. is it worth over tempest? tier 1 battleship for extreme specialized players... second bonus will probably change after 6-8 months after first announcement, september maybe?
Assault Frigates Nerfed because their use in PVE.. were pretty bad in PVP before, maybe some changes in the future.
I can understand the need for new content but how that sound over old bugged/unballanced content? Blasters getting a MAJOR buff, looking on changes you wonder why anyone used them before.. over a year of whining. A year to realise how bad they were?
Noticed few guys that invest lot of work and time in graphs and calculators, demonstrating without doubt what's broken and what need to be done.. after tons of threads and tens of hundreds of posts finaly someone "notice" and a change is promissed.
I can imagine constant presure devs have to handle but i really have to ask something.
Is there a rule that keeps broken things unchanged for a year or more? Constant forum whinners make things important? More petitions on same issue move it up in que. Sending you a petition per day speed things up? I hope not...
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wierchas noobhunter
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Posted - 2006.05.25 09:26:00 -
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Originally by: General Apocalypse Dear EVE player and forum *****s .Please Stop whining about the game . The DEV's are not blind nor stupid they made this game very carefully , the game is very well balanced - so stop floding the forums whit usless topics 
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