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Octoven
Phoenix Productions Headshot Gaming
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Posted - 2014.05.06 00:21:00 -
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Not sure if this is a feature request thread so I put in in general, move if you feel it is needed...
Soo...I was just noticing that the new Gecko is the Dragonfly model but as a heavy drone. However, if you look at Gecko variations is shows it as the Faction variation and Tech 1 being Dragonfly...so you havent entered the world of fighters yet a newer player may get these confused, because when you hit the compare tool at the bottom, it tries to compare the Gecko with the Dragonfly. So naturally a newer player would be comparing a fighter to a heavy drone and wondering why it sucks so terribly.
Would it be possible to move the Gecko from the fighter variation to the heavy drone variation category? |
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
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Posted - 2014.05.06 00:22:00 -
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Lothros Andastar
The Minutemen Li3 Federation
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Posted - 2014.05.06 04:51:00 -
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What they need to do is tone it down. It's already superior in every way to two heavy drones. |
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.05.06 04:55:00 -
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Lothros Andastar wrote:What they need to do is tone it down. It's already superior in every way to two heavy drones.
They are just trying to avoid the "Whats with all the crap presents" GD whine from new players they got at XMAS 2013.
The classic was the GD thread from a 3 month old player whining about the Leopard and how useless it was.
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Unezka Turigahl
Det Som Engang Var
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Posted - 2014.05.06 04:56:00 -
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Lothros Andastar wrote:What they need to do is tone it down. It's already superior in every way to two heavy drones.
If you're fighting an omni-tanked target. In some cases exploiting resist holes with standard heavies MAY be better. Particularly after the expansion.
But yeah... these things are pretty crazy. And we don't even have the faction DDAs to play with yet.
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Erufen Rito
The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People
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Posted - 2014.05.06 04:57:00 -
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Hasikan Miallok wrote:Lothros Andastar wrote:What they need to do is tone it down. It's already superior in every way to two heavy drones. They are just trying to avoid the "Whats with all the crap presents" GD whine from new players they got at XMAS 2013. The classic was the GD thread from a 3 month old player whining about the Leopard and how useless it was. I sort of agreed with that noob though. But yes, the gifts from 2013 xmas were pretty bad. I got a buuunch of unfunny random items. This is as nice as I get. Best quote ever https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4137165#post4137165 |
Octoven
Phoenix Productions Headshot Gaming
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Posted - 2014.05.06 05:01:00 -
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Hasikan Miallok wrote:Lothros Andastar wrote:What they need to do is tone it down. It's already superior in every way to two heavy drones. They are just trying to avoid the "Whats with all the crap presents" GD whine from new players they got at XMAS 2013. The classic was the GD thread from a 3 month old player whining about the Leopard and how useless it was.
I wouldn't say the Leopard was entirely useless, I mean I use mine when I want to get somewhere pretty fast to assist or something. Some of that stuff was a bit useless, especially if they repeat it since reprocessing is getting nerfed. |
Aalysia Valkeiper
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.05.10 03:18:00 -
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Actually, the gecko has been made available as a 'super-heavy' drone for CCP's 11th birthday bash.
Comparing it to other 'heavy' drones has brought me to the realization this is NOT a heavy drone or a fighter, but a completely new type of drone.
Could it be the 'prototype' for a new line of 'super-heavies'?
Also, this gecko can rightfully be called a 'frigate-killer'. Get a squadron of these (or any of the other possible 'super-heavies') deployed and the big, slow battleships and capitol ships can rightfully say they're quite safe from a frigate.
I'm also wondering if this is prepartory to a new class of light (Battlecruiser sized) carriers. A class that deploys the super-heavy drone in place of fighters, but still uses the expensive 'drone control unit' to deploy additional drones. |
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.05.10 03:23:00 -
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Lothros Andastar wrote:What they need to do is tone it down. It's already superior in every way to two heavy drones. It's going to be more reasonable compared to heavies come Kronos. |
Arthur Aihaken
Erebus Solia
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Posted - 2014.05.10 04:32:00 -
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Tyberius Franklin wrote:It's going to be more reasonable compared to heavies come Kronos. NPCs like Geckos. I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week. |
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2014.05.10 20:05:00 -
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Octoven wrote:Not sure if this is a feature request thread so I put in in general, move if you feel it is needed... Yep, it is and yes moving is needed...
This thread has been moved to Features & Ideas Discussion
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Daichi Yamato
Xero Security and Technologies
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Posted - 2014.05.10 20:29:00 -
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Lothros Andastar wrote:What they need to do is tone it down. It's already superior in every way to two heavy drones.
pre-summer expansion. when drone interfacing skills changes to +10% per level rather than 20%, heavies get their base stats changed to compensate for the skill change. Gecko's may not, which means they may lose 25% of their damage in summer. EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY?No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided""So it will be up to a pilot to remain vigilant wherever they may be flying and be ready for anything at any time" |
Barbara Nichole
Cryogenic Consultancy
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Posted - 2014.05.10 20:55:00 -
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Lothros Andastar wrote:What they need to do is tone it down. It's already superior in every way to two heavy drones. what? its huge size and larger bandwidth req are not already toned enough? -á-á- remove the cloaked from local; free intel is the real problem, not-á "afk" cloaking-á-
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DrysonBennington
Eagle's Talon's
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Posted - 2014.05.10 21:28:00 -
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The Gecko isn't really a Drone or a Fighter it is a Hybrid of the two systems.
I think CCP should look into development of this new type of Hybrid System for the other races as well including the development of ship for each race to facilitate the hybrid design.
Carriers and Fighters that are not Carriers and Fighter that can operate in high sector....which is exactly what High Sector needs.
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Octoven
Phoenix Productions Headshot Gaming
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Posted - 2014.05.12 05:03:00 -
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DrysonBennington wrote:The Gecko isn't really a Drone or a Fighter it is a Hybrid of the two systems.
I think CCP should look into development of this new type of Hybrid System for the other races as well including the development of ship for each race to facilitate the hybrid design.
Carriers and Fighters that are not Carriers and Fighter that can operate in high sector....which is exactly what High Sector needs.
I really dont mind if its a hybrid or not, I just dont think it sits well with less than knowledgeable players that one variation is a heavy drone and the other is a fighter. |
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
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Posted - 2014.05.12 06:04:00 -
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DrysonBennington wrote:Carriers and Fighters that are not Carriers and Fighter that can operate in high sector....which is exactly what High Sector needs. How did you figure that out? Of all the things hi sec needs, a mini carrier is probably the least of them.
Oh god. |
Arya Regnar
Darwins Right Hand
377
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Posted - 2014.05.12 10:46:00 -
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Daichi Yamato wrote:Lothros Andastar wrote:What they need to do is tone it down. It's already superior in every way to two heavy drones. pre-summer expansion. when drone interfacing skills changes to +10% per level rather than 20%, heavies get their base stats changed to compensate for the skill change. Gecko's may not, which means they may lose 25% of their damage in summer. This, but the velocity and tracking is still pretty OP. Can't kite ishtar geckos in mwd cruisers and you can't get under the guns.
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