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March rabbit
Federal Defense Union
1466
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Posted - 2014.05.01 21:03:00 -
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what everybody here take wrong is: game doesn't need to be "copy of Eve Online with little changes" to steal people. In reality game only needs to keep players interested long-term.
For example: some time ago i was playing Fallout 3 for a long time. Just because the game kept me interested. Before it was "18 wheels".
If you look at RL it is not even a game. But it makes you leave Eve.
So any discussions about features and stuff say nothing about real competition between games. The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
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Vortexo VonBrenner
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
1140
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Posted - 2014.05.01 21:08:00 -
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EVE will be ok. EVE will have 11+ years of player self-investment depth richness in it by the time starcitizen comes out of beta. Starcitizen seems like it has potential - which is why I'm set up to play it's alpha / beta - but I highly doubt it and other upcoming space games will supplant EVE. Especially if CCP stops mucking about with attempting other games and truly...um...laser focuses on EVE itself. EVE is truly unique in the MMO world and won't be dying anytime soon, imo.
I'm listening to-áBj+¦rk, playing EVE, eating fishsticks, and I'm cold....this is immersion gaming. |
Verlyn
Sisters of Xambu
18
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Posted - 2014.05.01 21:36:00 -
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PLEX prices will continue rising, until CCP will eventually have to find a way against it, or game will die.
Simple. Have fun while it lasts. |
DaReaper
Net 7 The Last Brigade
464
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Posted - 2014.05.01 21:54:00 -
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Verlyn wrote:PLEX prices will continue rising, until CCP will eventually have to find a way against it, or game will die.
Simple. Have fun while it lasts.
what are you smoking? plex price != game death. CCP needs to do nothing about plex prices. sheesh |
Goatman NotMyFault
NorCorp Shipyards The Predictables
114
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Posted - 2014.05.02 09:16:00 -
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March rabbit wrote:what everybody here take wrong is: game doesn't need to be "copy of Eve Online with little changes" to steal people. In reality game only needs to keep players interested long-term.
For example: some time ago i was playing Fallout 3 for a long time. Just because the game kept me interested. Before it was "18 wheels".
If you look at RL it is not even a game. But it makes you leave Eve.
So any discussions about features and stuff say nothing about real competition between games.
exactly, a spacegame thats different and good, will get EVE players. Atm EVE hasnt given players much to scream of joy. Except the useless New painting on ships.... cant understand why they implemented that instead of doing something players really wants... tho Paint was wanted by some players....
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Schmata Bastanold
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
1661
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Posted - 2014.05.02 09:29:00 -
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Well, they are going to buff mining barges again. If that is not response to community screaming I have no idea what is. I am not my skills but... http://eveboard.com/pilot/Schmata_Bastanold |
Goatman NotMyFault
NorCorp Shipyards The Predictables
114
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Posted - 2014.05.02 09:39:00 -
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Schmata Bastanold wrote:Well, they are going to buff mining barges again. If that is not response to community screaming I have no idea what is.
Im not sure what they can do to barges, cuz mining will always be borring ;p |
Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
958
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Posted - 2014.05.02 09:45:00 -
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Goatman NotMyFault wrote:Schmata Bastanold wrote:Well, they are going to buff mining barges again. If that is not response to community screaming I have no idea what is. Im not sure what they can do to barges, cuz mining will always be borring ;p Skiff.
Battleship like tank. Drone damage bonus.
It's full of win! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4492860 Killmails for Wrecks!! Ganker tears, best tears! And how do I put text as links into signatures?? |
Schmata Bastanold
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
1662
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Posted - 2014.05.02 09:47:00 -
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Mining barge with BS tank and drone damage bonus. If you can't see possibilities in it I'm afraid you are missing the whole point of Eve being a sandbox. I am not my skills but... http://eveboard.com/pilot/Schmata_Bastanold |
Goatman NotMyFault
NorCorp Shipyards The Predictables
114
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Posted - 2014.05.02 09:57:00 -
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Skif dont need more tanking, mack and hulk, could use some more tank, but its possible With current tank to outtank a 6 catalyst fleet... With some fiddling |
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Schmata Bastanold
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
1663
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Posted - 2014.05.02 10:07:00 -
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Because of course mining is done only in hisec where catalyst cannot shoot twice I am not my skills but... http://eveboard.com/pilot/Schmata_Bastanold |
Erin Crawford
59
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Posted - 2014.05.02 10:12:00 -
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Knowledge is knowing the tomato is a fruit. Wisdom is knowing not to put it in a fruit salad. Or, more simply put: apples and oranges. Both games are space games, but both are very different to each other. |
Erin Crawford
59
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Posted - 2014.05.02 10:18:00 -
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Erin Crawford wrote:Knowledge is knowing the tomato is a fruit. Wisdom is knowing not to put it in a fruit salad. Or, more simply put: apples and oranges. Both games are space games, but both are very different to each other.
*edit* Entertainment is the biggest factor. If it interests and entertains you chances are you will play it, if not then not - doesn't matter what one games has over the other. SC can have all the bells and whistles but if I don't enjoy it as much as EVE then i probably won't play it and the inverse is true also.
But of course I'll be even happier if both can deliver! |
Veld San
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2014.05.02 10:31:00 -
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Goatman NotMyFault wrote:The age of Space games has its Renaissance now and many New very interesting games are released, announced or soon to be released. As some Developers has said, now the techonology can make Our visions and dreams come thru.
How will this affect the future of EVE and how will EVE improve the game to counter the flight of EVE players to the New games?
Looking back through the years and the multitude of MMORPGs I have played, as well as spending some time within and around the gaming industry, I have a fairly neutral perspective on it.
Eve launched in 2003 and Was in development for a long time, it shares a lot of outdated ideas and core mechanics which originated from Ultima Online and the original Everquest, incidentally, everquest is still going, 15+ years, so I suppose it is a success, though how much of a success and from what angle and most importantly, how big of a success it could have been but isn't, well those are whole other stories.
Eve seems to be becoming just a tad slightly better then everquest due to its space MMORPG niche. I am unaware of any games currently in production or even planning stages that are also Space type MMORPGs with such detailed and in debth universe. There is Star Citizen, but to my understanding Star Citizen is not a true MMORPG, its a game with some multiplayer and some MMO elements, but not an MMORPG. So it will not take many people away from Eve.
Going onward, once another full scale space , or even sci-fy with space MMORPG comes out, thats when Eve will take a giant hit.
There are 3 things that will happen once that comes to pass.
1. Unlikely: CCP will rework the very core mechanics of the game, making it less hard core and open to much wider audiences, this is unlikely, I think these guys actually tried somewhat, but are continuously failing here and just don't get it. They need to move away from some of the original premisses of this game and re-launch, re-market. Yes, many of the hardcore players will leave, they will be replaces by many more that will discover this game, rest of us will stay.
2: Unlikely CCP will keep this game exactly "as is" catering to current players and funding its next installment of Eve Online which will include the above mentioned audiences. Some people will move, CCP will gain many new players, the 2 will co-exist much like EQ and EQ2.
3. Most Likely: Eve will fade to obscurity as the devs are too stubborn to open up to new ideas, modernize the game and redesign it. My hope is that this doesn't come to pass, but am just not holding my breath.
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Schmata Bastanold
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
1664
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Posted - 2014.05.02 10:37:00 -
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Thank god devs are too stubborn to change Eve into anything else than ruthless MMO where destruction is called consumption and freedom of choice has value.
I am not my skills but... http://eveboard.com/pilot/Schmata_Bastanold |
Goatman NotMyFault
NorCorp Shipyards The Predictables
114
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Posted - 2014.05.02 11:18:00 -
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Schmata Bastanold wrote:Thank god devs are too stubborn to change Eve into anything else than ruthless MMO where destruction is called consumption and freedom of choice has value.
yes thank god devs for never change and refuse Development of EVE |
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
4022
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Posted - 2014.05.02 11:28:00 -
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Goatman NotMyFault wrote:Schmata Bastanold wrote:Thank god devs are too stubborn to change Eve into anything else than ruthless MMO where destruction is called consumption and freedom of choice has value.
yes thank god devs for never change and refuse Development of EVE Well, guess you need to read up on the dev blogs. All the way from 2003. |
Goatman NotMyFault
NorCorp Shipyards The Predictables
114
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Posted - 2014.05.02 11:48:00 -
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Jake Warbird wrote:Goatman NotMyFault wrote:Schmata Bastanold wrote:Thank god devs are too stubborn to change Eve into anything else than ruthless MMO where destruction is called consumption and freedom of choice has value.
yes thank god devs for never change and refuse Development of EVE Well, guess you need to read up on the dev blogs. All the way from 2003.
Actually i have, its a endles list of updates and patches... well there was the time, many years ago, they inplemented wormspace... and caps... again many years ago. So i urge u to read thru the hole list ;)
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Schmata Bastanold
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
1665
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Posted - 2014.05.02 11:48:00 -
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Goatman NotMyFault wrote:Schmata Bastanold wrote:Thank god devs are too stubborn to change Eve into anything else than ruthless MMO where destruction is called consumption and freedom of choice has value.
yes thank god devs for never change and refuse Development of EVE
You seem to confuse development with putting more make up. I am not my skills but... http://eveboard.com/pilot/Schmata_Bastanold |
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
4023
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Posted - 2014.05.02 11:52:00 -
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'Endless list of updates and patches are not development.
More at 11' |
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Vaju Enki
Secular Wisdom
1309
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Posted - 2014.05.02 12:26:00 -
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Goatman NotMyFault wrote:Jake Warbird wrote:Goatman NotMyFault wrote:Schmata Bastanold wrote:Thank god devs are too stubborn to change Eve into anything else than ruthless MMO where destruction is called consumption and freedom of choice has value.
yes thank god devs for never change and refuse Development of EVE Well, guess you need to read up on the dev blogs. All the way from 2003. Actually i have, its a endles list of updates and patches... well there was the time, many years ago, they inplemented wormspace... and caps... again many years ago. So i urge u to read thru the hole list ;)
EvE Online is a sandbox mmo-rpg, not a themepark mmo-rpg. Players are the content. The Tears Must Flow |
Goatman NotMyFault
NorCorp Shipyards The Predictables
114
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Posted - 2014.05.02 12:58:00 -
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Vaju Enki wrote:Goatman NotMyFault wrote:Jake Warbird wrote:Goatman NotMyFault wrote:Schmata Bastanold wrote:Thank god devs are too stubborn to change Eve into anything else than ruthless MMO where destruction is called consumption and freedom of choice has value.
yes thank god devs for never change and refuse Development of EVE Well, guess you need to read up on the dev blogs. All the way from 2003. Actually i have, its a endles list of updates and patches... well there was the time, many years ago, they inplemented wormspace... and caps... again many years ago. So i urge u to read thru the hole list ;) EvE Online is a sandbox mmo-rpg, not a themepark mmo-rpg. Players are the content.
EVE are both, Sandbox is the platform, Space is the theme and we are flying around in this park... and we never get out. Its like a bad dream, u try to get to the door, but u get further and further away from it. |
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
18168
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Posted - 2014.05.02 13:47:00 -
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Goatman NotMyFault wrote:EVE are both, Sandbox is the platform, Space is the theme and we are flying around in this park... and we never get out. Its like a bad dream, u try to get to the door, but u get further and further away from it.
Eve is the Hotel California.
Never go full Ripard |
Belt Scout
Forum alts make you mad
341
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Posted - 2014.05.02 13:50:00 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Goatman NotMyFault wrote:EVE are both, Sandbox is the platform, Space is the theme and we are flying around in this park... and we never get out. Its like a bad dream, u try to get to the door, but u get further and further away from it. Eve is the Hotel California.
You can check-out any time you like
But you can never leave!
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
4860
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Posted - 2014.05.02 15:11:00 -
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The only thing that'll kill this game is a radical change in the technology that catches CCP off guard leaving Eve Online behind as an antiquated old folks home for bittervets.
At this rate it's going to take a holodeck to do that.
(Of course if the holodeck were invented the closest we will be to playing space captains is Captain Kirk if you know what I mean) Bring back DEEEEP Space! |
Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
6314
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Posted - 2014.05.02 15:18:00 -
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Schmata Bastanold wrote:Those who will leave Eve for Space Citizen shouldn't be here in the first place.
And this is the truth. Some people are space game fans and just didn't see any other option than EVE so they come to EVe and live a space life of dissapointment lol. Those of us who like EVE for what it is are always going to be annoyed by people like that.
If Star Citizen and other game peel off those 'space sim misfits' that need their space gameplay via a joystick, more power to them, they will be happy , and we'll be happy to have fewer people begging ccp for changes to suit them. |
Master Flakattack
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
8
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Posted - 2014.05.02 16:59:00 -
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Goatman NotMyFault wrote:Actually i have, its a endles list of updates and patches... well there was the time, many years ago, they inplemented wormspace... and caps... again many years ago. So i urge u to read thru the hole list ;)
You have got to be joking. Please tell me you're joking. Alternatively, stop posting. |
Goatman NotMyFault
NorCorp Shipyards The Predictables
114
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Posted - 2014.05.02 17:47:00 -
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Master Flakattack wrote:Goatman NotMyFault wrote:Actually i have, its a endles list of updates and patches... well there was the time, many years ago, they inplemented wormspace... and caps... again many years ago. So i urge u to read thru the hole list ;)
You have got to be joking. Please tell me you're joking. Alternatively, stop posting.
me stop posting? never. |
Vyl Vit
640
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Posted - 2014.05.02 18:09:00 -
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Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Chribba wrote:Watch the FanFest keynotes and you'll come to see why there's really nothing to worry about.
/c So, CCP are finally going to give up the ghost with DUST and concentrate on developing Eve still further? CCP "is", not "are". CCP IS A corporation. It isn't plural. An education goes a long way toward developing abstract reasoning.
If you possessed abstract reasoning abilities, then you'd readily realize "developing" EVE isn't "turning EVE into one of these, new, fabulous eye-candy monuments to the graphics card industry." It would also occur to you that for a game that's in need of evolving (I gather from the OP), EVE sure has a rather large, loyal playerbase. They (we) must be here for a reason.
You also seem to fail to realize, unlike other games you seem to be accustomed to, EVE's population isn't a bunch of flighty young teens ready to throw it all in to be the first in a rush to the next, really cool game! We do, however, applaud you if that's the sort of "gamer" you find yourself to be. Have at it.
That EVE should panic and try to patch a soon-to-be leaky boat because someone said technology today gives them the ability to see their dreams "through"...weird syntax as that may be...we have yet to see any of these fabulous games "realized." In fact, there HAVE been a series of games that (for sure) were going to alter the face of gaming permanently, making EVE (in particular) obsolete and unwanted.
Let's see there was SWTOR, FFXIV, ESO, Skyrim, ...somebody STOP meh! Anyone with any sense has already left town. |
Gaellia Bonaventure
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
2097
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Posted - 2014.05.02 18:35:00 -
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The future of EVE is bright as we continue to be swamped by "Eve is dying" threads.
It is ever thus. Bring your possibles. |
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