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BrundleMeth
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.04.28 10:40:00 -
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Miomeifeng Alduin wrote:Maybe you want players also unable to scramble you at gates? maybe a solo play mode without interaction with anything? Yes, I want this... |
Cebraio
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
403
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Posted - 2014.04.28 10:40:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Destination SkillQueue wrote:Hasikan Miallok wrote:Do they actually scram or just warp disrupt ? Disrupt. Critically, this allows you to activate a Micro Jump Drive. This is rather an important distinction. On a battleship yes. It also allows you to burn back to the gate and jump out, which OP probably could have done to avoid his loss. |
Prince Kobol
1667
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Posted - 2014.04.28 10:46:00 -
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Quite a few people have mentioned this since CCP gave us Incursions is that when an Incursion hits a HS system it should shut off all concord interference and local naval NPC forces, that system essentially becomes a free for all.
To counter the huge jump in the level of risk increased in running an Incursion in this situation I would have no problem with CCP increasing the payouts and rewards.
It would certainly make things a lot more entertaining |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
9460
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Posted - 2014.04.28 10:48:00 -
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Nevyn Auscent wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:PVP should be able to interfere with PVE, but it really shouldn't work the other way around. CCP feels differently. Entitlement complex much? "My way of playing is superior to yours, so I get to trample on you, but your way of playing can't ever affect me". It's not "your way of playing" though is it? It's a computer doing it. You had no part whatsoever in Sansha rats scramming me on a gate because my interceptor didn't align fast enough. And it goes beyond that. Incursions impose constellation-wide cyno jamming, which also prevents the use of jump bridges into incursion areas. That can have significant effects on local conflicts, because of nothing more than a totally random game mechanic. Incursions are cool. Player-generated content is better. "Pretty much all 14 of the CSM were in favor of a drone assign nerf for OBVIOUS gameplay reasons" - Sala Cameron
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Tiberious Thessalonia
True Slave Foundations Shaktipat Revelators
2175
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Posted - 2014.04.28 12:13:00 -
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CCP please make the incursion rats scramble in high security too thanks in advance! |
Brewlar Kuvakei
Adeptio Gloriae
283
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Posted - 2014.04.28 15:14:00 -
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Cebraio wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Destination SkillQueue wrote:Hasikan Miallok wrote:Do they actually scram or just warp disrupt ? Disrupt. Critically, this allows you to activate a Micro Jump Drive. This is rather an important distinction. On a battleship yes. It also allows you to burn back to the gate and jump out, which OP probably could have done to avoid his loss.
Could he hell, STFU he would have got insta popped at 0Hz on Scram or 1Hz. |
Mina Sebiestar
Mactabilis Simplex Cursus
660
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Posted - 2014.04.28 15:43:00 -
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Would like to see incursion rats gate camps in high sec maybe not points but pure dps also roams from station to stations as well as any warp to object.
many people would be melted gloriously.
To easy to roam and go on with your business while invasion is under way. http://i.imgur.com/1N37t.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/KTjFEt6.jpg I dont always fly stabber but when i do...
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March rabbit
Federal Defense Union
1458
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Posted - 2014.04.28 16:32:00 -
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Mara Pahrdi wrote:TWSinc wrote:I am open to anybody's thoughts. Be them for or against this.
As is I would like incursion rats not to be able to scramble at warp gates.
I'd very much like them to do this in HS too... i would prefer incursion to be removed from the game instead The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
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Sibyyl
540
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Posted - 2014.04.28 16:50:00 -
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My top 5 requests:
Incursion rats camping station undocks in hisec. Incursion rats with fleets of hulks depleting asteroid fields. Incursion rats scamming in Jita Local. Incursion rats AFK cloaking. Incursion rats posting on GD.
/Fÿ¡ Take solace knowing that even after the sun sets, and your sky is filled with darkness, that the sun is still shining. -D. Entervention Psychotic Monk joins BNI |
March rabbit
Federal Defense Union
1458
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Posted - 2014.04.28 16:51:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote:Quite a few people have mentioned this since CCP gave us Incursions is that when an Incursion hits a HS system it should shut off all concord interference and local naval NPC forces, that system essentially becomes a free for all. To counter the huge jump in the level of risk increased in running an Incursion in this situation I would have no problem with CCP increasing the payouts and rewards. It would certainly make things a lot more entertaining what are 'payouts' and 'rewards' you mentioned?
Regular mission rewards? Show me that idiot who will run missions there.... Incursion rewards? They are already higher in low- and 0.0. but it doesn't help players to participate.... Some other rewards? The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
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Blastcaps Madullier
Handsome Millionaire Playboys Mordus Angels
124
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Posted - 2014.04.28 16:54:00 -
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Kristalll wrote:I, too lost a Flycatcher to incursion rats. It was in nullse though. Kinda srems odd a destroyer can't get passed them, though.
Lol null incursions tend to be nasty, and sometimes it's funny as hell sitting near a gate cloaked watching said incursion rats popping ships :) have seen them catch and pop ceptors back before the recent ceptor changes :D then had fun watching people trying to scramble to loot wrecks round gates :D |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
21372
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Posted - 2014.04.28 16:58:00 -
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I'm also against highsec incursions working differently than elsewhere. Where do I sign the petition to fix this? GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Petrus Blackshell
Derelict Rifter Enterprise
3103
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Posted - 2014.04.28 17:45:00 -
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In my experience if you fly a solo nano-Typhoon through a lowsec incursion zone, you will be completely ignored by the incursion rats. You're flying the wrong ship, OP. Rifterlings - newbie-friendly swashbuckling corp ("weflyrifters" in-game channel). Join today! www.rifterlings.com
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Liam Inkuras
AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse
952
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Posted - 2014.04.28 18:20:00 -
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Incursion rats are better pvpers than most pvpers. I wear my goggles at night.
Any spelling/grammatical errors come complimentary with my typing on a phone |
Reaver Glitterstim
Dromedaworks inc Test Alliance Please Ignore
1169
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Posted - 2014.04.28 18:31:00 -
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Maybe the gate guns should shoot at rats that do that Fit a warfare link to your tech 1 battlecruiser. Train Wing Commander. Get in the Squad Commander or Wing Commander position. Your fleets will be superior to everyone else's. (had this sig BEFORE Odyssey BC rebalance) And bring back the missile Inquisitor!! |
TWSinc
DirtWorx
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Posted - 2014.04.30 11:12:00 -
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Im sure its been asked before, and not to switch topics.
Why dont gate guns target npc? what faction "owns" the gate guns? are they owned or do they just protect the gate their at?
Weather their owned by a faction or just ment to protect the gate from any hostiles ... Why arent they protecting the gate / system from hostile npc?
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
5559
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Posted - 2014.04.30 11:17:00 -
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TWSinc wrote:Im sure its been asked before, and not to switch topics.
Why dont gate guns target npc? what faction "owns" the gate guns? are they owned or do they just protect the gate their at?
Weather their owned by a faction or just ment to protect the gate from any hostiles ... Why arent they protecting the gate / system from hostile npc?
Gate guns are for players.
They are invincible, and making them shoot rats would be tantamount to just removing rats from gates entirely, nevermind that it would ramp up server load every time a rat popped into grid around a gate.
They're like CONCORD, meant to deal with interactions between capsuleers. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
-áPsychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Talia Prime
Imperial Militia
27
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Posted - 2014.04.30 11:32:00 -
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Brewlar Kuvakei wrote:What bugs me is that in both null and low they scram at gates yet in high sec they don't. Should probably petition that to get them to scram in high sec to as its clearly broken.
I too, fully support this proposal.
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Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
3820
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Posted - 2014.04.30 11:38:00 -
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March rabbit wrote: what are 'payouts' and 'rewards' you mentioned?
Regular mission rewards? Show me that idiot who will run missions there.... Incursion rewards? They are already higher in low- and 0.0. but it doesn't help players to participate.... Some other rewards?
Speaking as someone who would rather stick a hose down my own throat that join an Incursion fleet, Id say those of us who refuse to participate in Incursions
1) Cannot even begin to trust anyone in an Incursion Fleet
2) Are too poor
or
3) Think Sansha is actually right. "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "I can't honestly believe that Peace and Prosperity has a face like a naughty sarcastic nun that's come to whip me with a ruler." - Domanique Altares -á-á ***FREE THE JITA 1*** |
Chuck Sanussi
EntroPrelatial Vanguard EntroPraetorian Aegis
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Posted - 2014.04.30 11:38:00 -
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DeMichael Crimson wrote:Well, not much sympathy for the Devil here. You must of been sitting there or traveling really slow to have NPC's target and warp scram you at the gate. NPC's are much slower on the trigger compared to actual players and most players when traveling will warp to 0 anyway. Sounds like the new AI has beat you at your own game. DMC
I think you have never been to null incursion constellation. They scram like a player-flown inty in assault/hq systems. He must've had the bad luck of warping directly to HQ system. No idea, never fancied LS incs. |
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handige harrie
Hedion University Amarr Empire
236
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Posted - 2014.04.30 12:48:00 -
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They should add incursion gate rats to highsec gates, it's only fair. Just some scrambling frigates. They can leave the battleships off the highsec gates. Should add a better travelling dynamic in highsec. Baddest poster ever |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
3822
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Posted - 2014.04.30 12:51:00 -
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handige harrie wrote:They should add incursion gate rats to highsec gates, it's only fair. Just some scrambling frigates. They can leave the battleships off the highsec gates. Should add a better travelling dynamic in highsec.
Ill do it for you for a few million isk "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "I can't honestly believe that Peace and Prosperity has a face like a naughty sarcastic nun that's come to whip me with a ruler." - Domanique Altares -á-á ***FREE THE JITA 1*** |
Maxpie
MUSE Buy-n-Large Metaphysical Utopian Society Enterprises
420
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Posted - 2014.04.30 15:28:00 -
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I must admit I was rather surprised to lose in interceptor to incursion gate rats. Even more surprised when a corpmate lost a Prowler and when a friend said he'd lost a Leopard. I don't mind that they can do this, but the insta-lock is rather astonishing. I'd tone that down to more 'realistic' levels.
No good deed goes unpunished |
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
5055
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Posted - 2014.04.30 15:40:00 -
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Maxpie wrote:I must admit I was rather surprised to lose in interceptor to incursion gate rats. Even more surprised when a corpmate lost a Prowler and when a friend said he'd lost a Leopard. I don't mind that they can do this, but the insta-lock is rather astonishing. I'd tone that down to more 'realistic' levels.
If they lost a Prowler and a Leopard, they were either AFK or doing it wrong.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |
Muppet Beldrulf
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
2
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Posted - 2014.04.30 15:49:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote:Quite a few people have mentioned this since CCP gave us Incursions is that when an Incursion hits a HS system it should shut off all concord interference and local naval NPC forces, that system essentially becomes a free for all.
Seconded, awesome idea. |
Blastcaps Madullier
Handsome Millionaire Playboys Mordus Angels
124
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Posted - 2014.04.30 17:56:00 -
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Doc Fury wrote:Maxpie wrote:I must admit I was rather surprised to lose in interceptor to incursion gate rats. Even more surprised when a corpmate lost a Prowler and when a friend said he'd lost a Leopard. I don't mind that they can do this, but the insta-lock is rather astonishing. I'd tone that down to more 'realistic' levels. If they lost a Prowler and a Leopard, they were either AFK or doing it wrong.
or they went through a null system incursion possibley a HQ system, and well as anyone who's been in a null incursion system, nullsec incursion rats hit hard and fast, think a lot faster than HS ones tbt :) |
Brooks Puuntai
Solar Nexus.
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Posted - 2014.04.30 18:05:00 -
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It should stay and is one of the good things CCP did with Incursions.
You have options when dealing with this which adds to the game.
If your route from Point A to Point B goes through an Incursion:
A) Be prepared to combat possible rats. B) Plan a route around contested area. C) Take your chances, risk over lazyness. D) Get an escort(or alt) to clear rats for you.
Eve shouldn't be about instant gratification, nor should it be that the easiest way is always best way. CCP's Motto: If it isn't broken, break it. If it is broken, ignore it. Improving NPE-á/ Dynamic New Eden |
Kithran
98
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Posted - 2014.04.30 18:30:00 -
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handige harrie wrote:They should add incursion gate rats to highsec gates, it's only fair. Just some scrambling frigates. They can leave the battleships off the highsec gates. Should add a better travelling dynamic in highsec.
You (and everyone else calling for this) saying high sec incursions should work the same as lowsec/null sec incursions are missing the fact they already do.
What is actually happening is anywhere faction rats spawn you now get incursion rats instead.
This means in high sec you don't see them on gates and only very rarely see them near stations because you don't see normal faction rats on gates and very rarely near stations in high sec.
What you do see is the incursion rats in belts in high sec regularly.
In low sec (where you can see faction rats on gates) lo and behold you get incursion rats on gates. |
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