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Kern Sybal
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Posted - 2006.05.14 21:46:00 -
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How do you pay your miners?
I have been debating different ways to pay miners and I haven't found a system I like yet. It seems that either the players or the corp gets the shaft.
Thanks,
Kern
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Tar Ecthelion
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Posted - 2006.05.14 22:22:00 -
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Set a price the corp is willing to buy the minerals off your miners for, have it 10-20% below market value. That way miners shouldn't moan too much and corp gets cheap minerals. Then either sell minerals on market for profit, or use for production and sell products on market for profit.
This mineral price can be used for members to buy manufactured goods from corp thats cheaper than market value.
This way you should keep everyone happy hopefully. 
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hendo001
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Posted - 2006.05.15 06:35:00 -
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pay per corp mining op, and give them free equipmet/ships
It really depends on your corp, ask them what they want then u cant go wrong 
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Helene Troi
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Posted - 2006.05.16 17:32:00 -
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Edited by: Helene Troi on 16/05/2006 17:34:16
Split all material equally with an additional, equal ghost share sold for the corps account...
Or option 'b'
Mine with a specific purpose in mind eg: the construction of a number of items and split the profit from that equally...
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IVeige
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Posted - 2006.05.16 21:32:00 -
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"Set a price the corp is willing to buy the minerals off your miners for, have it 10-20% below market value."
yes, mine for the corp and receive 10 to 20 % less profit than if you sell it on the market 
Why a miner would want to join your corp if he has to sell his mineral 10 -20 % bellow market value ?
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Alexi Borizkova
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Posted - 2006.05.16 21:59:00 -
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Well, what we do is:
Everyone who shows up for the op and stays for it's duration and participates is cut in for a full share, after the op, all the ore is refined, the minerals are then sold, with proceeds being split evenly among participants. There is an optional 10% tithe/corp tax on your personal income, which is not disclosed one way or the other(to prevent peer pressure).
Miners, haulers, defenders, everyoen gets an even split, so long as they contributed.
With this system, I see people tend to work their asses off, because literally every piece of ore successfulyl mined and hauled out of here is direct profit for their pocket, so they are willing to go to great lengths to get as much out as possible.
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Stregone
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Posted - 2006.05.17 01:02:00 -
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Originally by: IVeige
"Set a price the corp is willing to buy the minerals off your miners for, have it 10-20% below market value."
yes, mine for the corp and receive 10 to 20 % less profit than if you sell it on the market
Why a miner would want to join your corp if he has to sell his mineral 10 -20 % bellow market value ?
It helps the corp, and if you are out in the middle of nowhere you always have someone to buy it. Plus you can get stuff made by the corp at cost (10-20% less than others' at cost price).
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Dynast
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Posted - 2006.05.17 04:38:00 -
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Originally by: IVeige
"Set a price the corp is willing to buy the minerals off your miners for, have it 10-20% below market value."
yes, mine for the corp and receive 10 to 20 % less profit than if you sell it on the market
Why a miner would want to join your corp if he has to sell his mineral 10 -20 % bellow market value ?
80% of the money you can make in an hour mining Crokite, Bistot, and suchlike, is a great deal more money that 100% of what you can make in an hour trying to find Omber that hasn't been mined out in 0.5 and 0.6.
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mr passie
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Posted - 2006.05.17 12:48:00 -
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The way I used to do it was that The corp would buy all the ORE at 10% above regional and then take a percentage off for the corp wallet.
After evaluating for a while I Think 15% is more equal to the players. You'd need perfect refining for this to be effective and if you set up industry next to it you'll probably be able to pay them as much as 20 to 25 % above regional but you'll hardly make any money within the corp.
I did this for high sec mining only. Low sec mining would prob be better off if you buy the mins directly.
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Great Eagle
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Posted - 2006.05.17 18:17:00 -
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How my corp works is that when we do opps the ore/ISK is split among all who attend. If the corp needs ISK we do 50/50 opps or 75/25 opps. Other then that we buy all mins at what the going rate of the buy order's on market of where are HQ is at.
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Jatar Poli
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Posted - 2006.05.18 19:14:00 -
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I pay our miners a set amount for each unit of ore. I calculate this amount a couple times a month and it is based on the mineral value of the ore after it is refined. I then apply a 10% corporate tax. It usually works out to be more than the market for the miner. I can then adjust individual ore prices to adjust for demand. ie Scordite ore usually has a factor applied to get miners to mine it instead of just mining omber or kernite. It seems to work pretty good. I use the EVEMasterData Sheet to help me calculate the ore prices. |
James Lyrus
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Posted - 2006.05.19 09:19:00 -
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For corp ops, we pool the cash in the corp wallet, and use it to finance toys to the people who are actively participating.
Works quite well.
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Wraith Dragonfang
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Posted - 2006.05.20 05:33:00 -
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I would have to say that the way my corp works out payment for mining.... so on and so forth. Is that 20% of minerals refined goes into our manufacturing hanger. And the rest of the minerals are sold on the market. From there whatever is made is split evenly between all of those that participated. Keeps them happy and gives them a sence of accomplishment, along with the fact that sooner of later those minerals will be used to build their next ship.
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Nexus Fiery
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Posted - 2006.05.20 12:46:00 -
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I have a division in corp hangar with passworded station containers for every member. In corp mail and on our forum I have a list of prices I pay my members for the ore they mine. The prices is of cause a bit lower than the market prices, but on the other hand no one has to haul their ore to other systems to get decent prices. If a mineral is in high demand I just make a bonus for my members, fx 2 mil extra payout pr 1 mil units of scordite they mine. With 2-3 accountants besides myself this solution is great. Further more it allows me to offer free ammunition, drones, equipment and ships (smaller ships for free) at mineral value prices for all members. |
Davey Dent
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Posted - 2006.05.20 16:04:00 -
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i use an excel chart to pay us, it is set at about npc base minerals costs with a bit of jigging from the market, 'the corp gains most'. it also works out the changes in what type of ship that you mine in 'so the experienced players do not get ****ed off at the newbies'. and then on top of that for every mil of minerals that you get paid for, you get a 1 corp share, every two weeks the corp does a 5 % payout 'better for the player' and when you get the share you also get 1 ticket for the corp draw which lasts one draw, draw is every 2 weeks and as the corp grows the draw items get bigger. 'better for the player'
:-) davey
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