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Chu Ni
Ascended Phoenix
2
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Posted - 2014.04.16 01:00:00 -
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Cassandra Aurilien wrote:
It doesn't hurt to try. I'm sure there are people interested in fights where there is guaranteed to be no OGB, or other outside interference. (Without forfeiture of their stake.)
I doubt it will be easy, you'd need to get enough people interested to have fights on a regular basis, as well as enough of a reputation that people trust you. A reputation as a competent pvp pilot wouldn't hurt as well.
Good luck!
well thats why i made this thread to see if enough would be interested and also because i would need help myself since i cant be on all the time and since It's just me and my brother in my corp atm |
Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
297
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Posted - 2014.04.16 01:04:00 -
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It's easy to find them.
Use the map.
Where are the most people? Go there. Where are the most player ships exploding? Go there.
Or join RvB.
You want a solution for a problem that has been solved long ago. |
Chu Ni
Ascended Phoenix
2
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Posted - 2014.04.16 01:18:00 -
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1. I refuse to join RvB because large corporations are boring unless you are really high ranked in them, its just too many people to deal with. 2. I'm not trying to find a solution to a problem that was already solved. I was simply asking if the solution that had been found was a popular one that people would be willing to participate in or join me in creating. 3. I like lists, keeps everything neat and stuffs |
KIller Wabbit
The Scope Gallente Federation
554
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Posted - 2014.04.16 01:30:00 -
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CCP can't seem to understand that customers are walking away because they don't like, or can't, spend 3 hours at a stretch (or 8 if you want to sov grind) at a keyboard. CCP needs to create a 1v1 arena PvP where people can spend 15 minutes getting having a great time, recharging the batteries for those long grinds and roams.
CCP Punkturis-á "I want to get in on the goodposter circle jerk!"
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Cassandra Aurilien
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
9
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Posted - 2014.04.16 01:35:00 -
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KIller Wabbit wrote:CCP can't seem to understand that customers are walking away because they don't like, or can't, spend 3 hours at a stretch (or 8 if you want to sov grind) at a keyboard. CCP needs to create a 1v1 arena PvP where people can spend 15 minutes getting having a great time, recharging the batteries for those long grinds and roams.
No. They don't. Go to STO, if that is what you want. Many people would leave if they saw that come into play. (Myself, included.)
Alternatively, if you want a duel arena, help the OP to set one up. In game, using in game resources. |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
4759
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Posted - 2014.04.16 01:40:00 -
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KIller Wabbit wrote:CCP can't seem to understand that customers are walking away because they don't like, or can't, spend 3 hours at a stretch (or 8 if you want to sov grind) at a keyboard. CCP needs to create a 1v1 arena PvP where people can spend 15 minutes getting having a great time, recharging the batteries for those long grinds and roams.
Here's what you can do:
Set up in a system next door to a "dangerous" system. Villore for example, right next to Old Man Star.
Skill up for one particular ship and fitting. With proper skill planning you can be very effective with a small ship and still stay in a very cheap clone, even at all level 4s and hitting level 5 skills on all of your (1X) skills which can be done relatively fast.
The kinds of ships that you can consider are those that are popular with PVP. Much is said of the Rifter and there's even a "Pirate's Guide" for it. The Incursus comes to mind. If you want to go "high stakes" later, you can even pick a hull that has a comparable Assault Frigate version so when you get Frigate 5 you can train AF and be in the same skill vector that you already built up flying your cheaper ships.
Set up a pile of ships in the station next to the dangerous system. Fit them all ahead of time, one kind of fitting too, or variable to your liking (what, am I supposed to do everything?).
Go into dangerous system and get into fights.
If you get podded, you are right there in the next system with a ship ready to go - don't forget to upgrade your clone before you undock again.
Otherwise if not, and in a dangerous lowsec system it's not so likely to get podded (base out of Torrinos and play in EC-P8R if you want to get podded more) run back and get another ship.
And that's as close as you get to an arena and a respawn point. Cheap ships and cheap clones you can probably feed your habit with an hour of L4 mission running a day or PI or maybe even Market Fu.
Bring back DEEEEP Space! |
Webvan
State Protectorate Caldari State
1033
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Posted - 2014.04.16 01:42:00 -
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Chu Ni wrote:1. I refuse to join RvB because large corporations are boring unless you are really high ranked in them, its just too many people to deal with. 2. I'm not trying to find a solution to a problem that was already solved. I was simply asking if the solution that had been found was a popular one that people would be willing to participate in or join me in creating. 3. I like lists, keeps everything neat and stuffs Probably not since this isn't one of those games (e.g. WoW, GW2 etc). If you had more experience with it, you could possibly organize something along those lines as you suggest. But then those that organize the many tournaments that go on in New Eden, having experience with it, a strong level of dedication over months and even years, well I'm sure would tell you it's still not an easy thing to do and especially from a forum thread in the wrong forum.
But if you seek the experience required to do such things, well I mentioned a starting place for getting proactive in the community which does those things. Even participating in related events could give you insights, such as RvB open roams or even the EVE Live event going on as I write this response. But there is no instant gratification in this game, all things you must work your way up too, including social engineering and such. Lucks.
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Gully Alex Foyle
Black Fox Marauders Repeat 0ffenders
99
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Posted - 2014.04.16 01:57:00 -
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It could work, just try it!
A chat channel is a good starting point.
The 'Arena' could be any spot in Jita system: max traffic, easy to reship.
Just find a small bunch of guys that wanna blow eachother up in arranged fights in highsec and duel away, inviting people to watch and make bets. It could grow from there.
Good luck! |
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
1125
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Posted - 2014.04.16 02:47:00 -
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Just get out of highsec.
Problem solved. All the duels you can ever want and no need to even ask. . -á<- Argue this, not this ->-á( -í-¦ -£-û -í-¦) |
Chu Ni
Ascended Phoenix
2
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Posted - 2014.04.16 02:52:00 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote:Just get out of highsec.
Problem solved. All the duels you can ever want and no need to even ask.
You funny
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Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
1126
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Posted - 2014.04.16 03:00:00 -
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It what sense?
It would solve your issues and if you are interested in pvp, you'll learn a lot.
You'll die a lot early on, but as a player you'll develop skills that will be invaluable to your character when it's a bit older and able to fly more ships with better fits.
Also, as your KB has your losses all in lowsec, a couple of tips:
1. Don't fly a Caracal until you can fit it properly 2. Amamake, Siseide and surrounding systems are traditionally busy systems. You'll find newer players in quieter FW systems . -á<- Argue this, not this ->-á( -í-¦ -£-û -í-¦) |
Chu Ni
Ascended Phoenix
2
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Posted - 2014.04.16 03:42:00 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote:It what sense? It would solve your issues and if you are interested in pvp, you'll learn a lot. You'll die a lot early on, but as a player you'll develop skills that will be invaluable to your character when it's a bit older and able to fly more ships with better fits. Also, as your KB has your losses all in lowsec, a couple of tips: 1. Don't fly a Caracal until you can fit it properly 2. Amamake, Siseide and surrounding systems are traditionally busy systems. You'll find newer players in quieter FW systems
All my deaths in lowsec are due to me going there on the way to somewhere else and meeting an unfortunate end. also proper fittings on my caracal had nothing to do with my death. i was shot by a group of 10 people at a stargate. That aside, I'm not really looking to find people to fight really. I'm looking to find people who want to fight other people and everyone gets a little money and experience (except the loser on the money bit) without having to risk the high probability of an unfair fight. At least in this sort of setting the fights will be mostly fair. yeah one guy may have more experience or tech 2 modules while his opponent is less skilled in pvp and only has tech 1 fittings, I can make a rule going against such things or only allowing frigates to fight each other and cruisers to fight cruisers (unless agreed upon by the two parties). |
Brendan Anneto
Gladiators of Rage Fidelas Constans
21
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Posted - 2014.04.16 06:38:00 -
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CETA Elitist wrote:We need a place where people can go to blow each other up without having to worry about police. COME TO BRANCH Proverbs 1:26-27 |
Luwc
Biohazard. WINMATAR.
93
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Posted - 2014.04.16 07:00:00 -
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its called Faction Warfare. |
Webvan
State Protectorate Caldari State
1038
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Posted - 2014.04.16 07:06:00 -
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Luwc wrote:its called Faction Warfare. Agreed, but OP doesn't want to actually learn how to pvp, nor participate, only tell others how to. lol? |
Winchester Steele
987
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Posted - 2014.04.16 07:08:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote: We also need some kind of place where new players can safely level up, like a forest of some sorts, populated with easy to kill creatures like boars carebears.
FYP. We pretty much already have this. ... |
Ren Coursa
Rapid Withdrawal
5
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Posted - 2014.04.16 08:04:00 -
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Didn't read anything but the title but I'm going to assume i know what the thread is about and be snarky about anyways.
Yes, low sec is clearly thriving so we must add more things to draw people out of these over populated areas of immense content.
Arenas would mean the end of roaming. I for one wouldn't put in 3 hours, being ganked 6 times and trying to kill 10 stabbed farmers who just warp away just to find 1 or 2 solid solo fights when i could just go there and fight to my hearts content.
Better to fix low sec so you actually find more people willing to pvp in the sandbox instead of opening a theme park. |
WASPY69
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
245
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Posted - 2014.04.16 16:12:00 -
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Jita 4-4 undock. |
Forum Clone 77777
Do You Even Irony Broew
247
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Posted - 2014.04.16 16:45:00 -
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CETA Elitist wrote:PotatoOverdose wrote:CETA Elitist wrote:We need a place where people can go to blow each other up without having to worry about police. Solution: Remove the Po Po from hisec. But where would they go? Plot twist. Concord now controls nullsec. |
Serene Repose
1271
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Posted - 2014.04.16 16:56:00 -
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PotatoOverdose wrote:CETA Elitist wrote:We need a place where people can go to blow each other up without having to worry about police. Solution: Remove the Po Po from hisec. Then you have more low sec. That's so brilliant! Why didn't anybody ELSE think of it??? Whoa.
I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility toward every form of tyranny over the mind of man.-á |
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Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
1241
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Posted - 2014.04.16 17:22:00 -
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Ha, I came in expecting a whine topic on the absence of arena's where one doesn't lose his ship. Didn't expect a genuine inquiry about player-driven content. Tournaments can actually be a lot of fun, we do this with the corp sometimes. Yup it's herding cats but as usual, anything done enough times becomes routine. I think not many people bother outside of their own social circles, because there's to many dopeheads trolling and / or having a limited IQ to keep order. |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
3359
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Posted - 2014.04.16 17:27:00 -
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I dont understand
What purpose would this serve? *** Vote MTU For CSM *** ***Free The Jita 1*** "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "Despite others being missing, at least Ramona is back." - Scipio Artelius |
Alyth Nerun
Foundation for CODE and THE NEW ORDER CODE.
180
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Posted - 2014.04.16 18:03:00 -
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Just try it OP. From what I see around trade hubs there are a lot of people who would love that playstile. Maybe you can find your first gladiators there.
There may be some problems if other people try to interrupt the battles just for the lulz, but I am sure there will be a way to incorporate such incidents into your rules set and take measures to stop them. Just be prepared for that. It may make the thing even more interesting.
Don't matter the troll squad here who doesn't even read your posts before they answer. You did not ask for CCP to change the game, that's probably what some of them where thinking when they saw your title.
In my opinion this type of arena gameplay would be 100% more EVE then any CCP sponsored tournament so far where they basically isolate the teams from the rest of tranquility. Real EVE esport needs to be placed in the sandbox itself, it has to be something that emerged from the sandbox and that's what I think the OP is trying to do here. I think the current tournaments don't represent EVE in any way. They have nothing to do with the ingame gameplay, it is a completely foreign format that just uses EVE assets. Only if this type of gameplay emerges from the sandbox it will be an EVE tournament. Maybe the OP will find out if that is even possible.
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Caviar Liberta
Moira. Villore Accords
515
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Posted - 2014.04.16 18:29:00 -
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CETA Elitist wrote:We need a place where people can go to blow each other up without having to worry about police.
I know right, if only there were regions of space that were lawless. |
Felicity Love
Whore and Peace
1676
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Posted - 2014.04.16 18:40:00 -
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No.
WoW ----> Thattaway...
... and I was just saying the other day, "Damn, I miss Soundwave"....
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Hevymetal
POT Corp Semper Ardens Alliance
255
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Posted - 2014.04.16 21:14:00 -
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CETA Elitist wrote:We need a place where people can go to blow each other up without having to worry about police.
Wormholes, 0.0 and low sec already meet this criteria.
It's the spectators and strangers in those areas you have to worry about, Imagine Goons hotdropping a fleet on 75-100 people partaking in the matches, spectating, etc. I bet on Goons now :)
You need to work out a system using the War-Dec, alliance and corp mechanics that already exist now. That way you can issue and retract hostility as needed. If the contestants and corp holding alts are the only players involved there will be no outside interference and the matches can take place in hisec (even 1.0 systems, to ensure carebear participation)
Using the above method would also allow you to easily arrange things like 2v2, 4v4 and ladder bracket matches.
I like the idea alot. If you offer prizes high enough and take your time planning it this could be a very nice event making a ton of isk. It's gonna require effort to do it correctly but the results will be awesome.
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baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
11177
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Posted - 2014.04.16 21:29:00 -
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WASPY69 wrote:Jita 4-4 undock.
Thats more of a mosh pit. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |
Michael Ruckert
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
132
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Posted - 2014.04.17 03:54:00 -
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OP asks for dueling arena. EVE forum warriors respond appropriately:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c5/Jean-Leon_Gerome_Pollice_Verso.jpg "No matter how well you perform there's always somebody of intelligent opinion who thinks it's lousy." - Laurence Olivier |
Jarod Garamonde
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
1586
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Posted - 2014.04.17 04:21:00 -
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Garandras wrote:Pretty sure the closest thing to a dueling area is FW sites
Unless you count "fitting multiple warp core stabs and a cloak" as "dueling", you're sadly mistaken. That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right... |
King Fu Hostile
Imperial Collective Unsettled.
39
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Posted - 2014.04.17 06:06:00 -
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Chu Ni wrote:Scipio Artelius wrote:It what sense? It would solve your issues and if you are interested in pvp, you'll learn a lot. You'll die a lot early on, but as a player you'll develop skills that will be invaluable to your character when it's a bit older and able to fly more ships with better fits. Also, as your KB has your losses all in lowsec, a couple of tips: 1. Don't fly a Caracal until you can fit it properly 2. Amamake, Siseide and surrounding systems are traditionally busy systems. You'll find newer players in quieter FW systems All my deaths in lowsec are due to me going there on the way to somewhere else and meeting an unfortunate end. also proper fittings on my caracal had nothing to do with my death. i was shot by a group of 10 people at a stargate. That aside, I'm not really looking to find people to fight really. I'm looking to find people who want to fight other people and everyone gets a little money and experience (except the loser on the money bit) without having to risk the high probability of an unfair fight. At least in this sort of setting the fights will be mostly fair. yeah one guy may have more experience or tech 2 modules while his opponent is less skilled in pvp and only has tech 1 fittings, I can make a rule going against such things or only allowing frigates to fight each other and cruisers to fight cruisers (unless agreed upon by the two parties).
Gate camps are on low>high sec gates, and you'll avoid them by living in lowsec. Living there and getting connected with locals (people living in lowsec are generally nicer, more social and mature folks than in highsec) gets you access to intel in the area.
FW space has plexes, that restrict what ship types can enter. This makes most fights fair, and allows people to choose their fights if it looks unfair to them.
But good luck with your venture. |
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