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Mario Putzo
Welping and Dunking.
458
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Posted - 2014.03.25 22:45:00 -
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Anslo wrote:I honestly wouldn't cancel until CCP officially says...well something. If anything. Jumpin the gun just unsubbing right this second imo.
What are they going to say.
Watch out for scams If you don't like being on other peoples comms, log off them?
Buddy could have left at anytime. Big whoop. |
Anslo
Scope Works
4567
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Posted - 2014.03.25 22:46:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Anslo wrote:I honestly wouldn't cancel until CCP officially says...well something. If anything. Jumpin the gun just unsubbing right this second imo. Agreed. It is late night in Iceland, and CCP takes a long time to move on something like this. It took them days to move on the failed lawyer, and that was with way more negative publicity than has happened, so far. Anyone who wants to unsub, I would recommend waiting until at least Thursday to see if the publicity machine picks up steam. But, that being said, I am guessing CCP just hunkers down and tries to ride it out. Remember, CCP condones, even celebrates this kind of behaviour. I, for the life of me, can't understand why, but they do. They will likely think that ANY publicity is a good thing.
Not true. I don't think this kind of thing has ever really shown up, at this level, in the game before. Saying CCP condones this level of asshattery is a bit of a stretch.
Again, the scam isn't the issue. It's what happened after the items were taken. If CCP comes out and supports THAT...well...we'll see I suppose.
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Delt0r Garsk
Shits N Giggles
95
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Posted - 2014.03.25 22:53:00 -
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Sometimes i wonder if you people have contact with the internet outside eve at all.
Eve is in fact one of the better games.
And if the forums are the problem do what the 9 out of 10 people do. Don't read them. |
RomeStar
Empire Investments Logistics
421
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Posted - 2014.03.25 23:03:00 -
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LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:Cyber-bullying has no place in this game
Well it seems you don't either now. Good one less bleeding heart who has no idea what EVE is about. Goooodbyeeeee
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DJentropy Ovaert
Crazy Bird Inc. The Fire Nation Syndicate
170
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Posted - 2014.03.25 23:20:00 -
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LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:
There is no full story. i see enough bullying and humiliation in real life, and i dont want to see it in EVE as well.
As you grow older you realize more and more that this sort of behaviour is not ok at all. Younger guys think its all LOL and HTFU. Older guys see things differently.
I have been playing this game for 10 years give or take, and I came to realize that if we as eve players dont start doing something about our spaceship community, we are just allowing trash to dictate terms of the game to us.
And I will be damned it i am forced to play in an environment that facilitates exploitation and sadism. Either it changes, or I will leave - EVE is not unique.
You assume that I am a "younger guy" and that if I was only "older" I would see things in another light. I'm already old, and I don't.
It's probably best that you leave. You are playing the wrong game. There's plenty of MMO's out there. If you were threatened in a out of game context, or specific language was used (racial slurs, homophobic slurs, etc) - file a petition and CCP will deal with it. If not, quit trying to screw up the game on your way out the door, k? |
LUMINOUS SPIRIT
The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People
206
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Posted - 2014.03.25 23:21:00 -
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DJentropy Ovaert wrote:LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:
There is no full story. i see enough bullying and humiliation in real life, and i dont want to see it in EVE as well.
As you grow older you realize more and more that this sort of behaviour is not ok at all. Younger guys think its all LOL and HTFU. Older guys see things differently.
I have been playing this game for 10 years give or take, and I came to realize that if we as eve players dont start doing something about our spaceship community, we are just allowing trash to dictate terms of the game to us.
And I will be damned it i am forced to play in an environment that facilitates exploitation and sadism. Either it changes, or I will leave - EVE is not unique.
You assume that I am a "younger guy" and that if I was only "older" I would see things in another light. I'm already old, and I don't. It's probably best that you leave. You are playing the wrong game. There's plenty of MMO's out there. Just stop trying to screw up our game with your tears on your way out the door.
No I think I would rather change EVE for the better and force trash out instead. |
DJentropy Ovaert
Crazy Bird Inc. The Fire Nation Syndicate
170
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Posted - 2014.03.25 23:22:00 -
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LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:
No I think I would rather change EVE for the better and force trash out instead.
You see, referring to other players as "trash" is not going to get you very far. It's hard to seem like the "good guy" when you are hurling insults around.
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One Eyed Runner
State War Academy Caldari State
6
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Posted - 2014.03.25 23:23:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:
also, most of us don't want it "cleaned up" since the reason we came to this game is because it's the wretched hive of scum and villainy we want it to be.
yep just like real life............ I live in Jita so f*ck off |
Ivorcya Yvormes
Gallente Mining Militia
0
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Posted - 2014.03.25 23:26:00 -
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I say punish that person, ban him, all his alts - ccp should have no problem getting all of them - ban all his friends taking part in that torture.
Its not about the scam - if people are stupid enough to fail to that scams, ok.
But torturing people just is beyond anything that can be tolerated. Thats a crime. Even if it's the victims own fault.
Lets see what ccp does. If they fail to react i'll sure as hell will unsub. |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
4314
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Posted - 2014.03.25 23:27:00 -
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I've just cancelled two of my subs. Nothing to do with any flavor of the day reasons.
Just thought I'd throw that in here for no apparent reason.
Mr Epeen There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass! |
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LUMINOUS SPIRIT
The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People
208
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Posted - 2014.03.25 23:27:00 -
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DJentropy Ovaert wrote:LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:
No I think I would rather change EVE for the better and force trash out instead.
You see, referring to other players as "trash" is not going to get you very far. It's hard to seem like the "good guy" when you are hurling insults around.
I dont consider sadists like E1 'players'. I consider them trash, worst kind of people that take pleasure in abusing others.
Never said i was a perfect white knight. I am a normal guy who is outraged about this ****, and who has strong opinions. My opinions are colored by own life experiences - I have seen bullying like this in high school. I KNOW what it does to people. And I know that a line was crossed.
So yes, trash.
Simple as that.
Dont like it? Side with the sadists. There is really no middle ground here. |
DJentropy Ovaert
Crazy Bird Inc. The Fire Nation Syndicate
171
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Posted - 2014.03.25 23:31:00 -
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LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:
I dont consider sadists like E1 'players'. I consider them trash, worst kind of people that take pleasure in abusing others.
Never said i was a perfect white knight. I am a normal guy who is outraged about this ****, and who has strong opinions. My opinions are colored by own life experiences - I have seen bullying like this in high school. I KNOW what it does to people. And I know that a line was crossed.
So yes, trash.
Simple as that.
Dont like it? Side with the sadists. There is really no middle ground here.
Wait.
What line was crossed? Who was "bullied"? You're not providing any details and it makes it difficult for anyone to sympathize with your position. In a nutshell, all we have to go with is that you personally have decided that some EVE players are "trash", you are outraged about "****", you are quitting the game (but are still here), and that some "line was crossed".
I'm not siding with anyone, nor defending anyone's actions. I'm just asking for you to provide some details and start making sense. |
Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
1923
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Posted - 2014.03.25 23:35:00 -
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Link
This is CCP's attitude to RL bullying in their game. Using a public forum to mock and humiliate players both in game actions and out of game circumstances.
Taking a private communication and broadcasting it to an entire public audience by putting it on a projector. Not only a breach of privacy but a breach of law. Want to make billions a week solo running combat sites in null sec? -á Read my Exploratation Guide here -> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=309467 |
Shizuken
Venerated Stars
228
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Posted - 2014.03.25 23:35:00 -
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DJentropy Ovaert wrote:LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:
I dont consider sadists like E1 'players'. I consider them trash, worst kind of people that take pleasure in abusing others.
Never said i was a perfect white knight. I am a normal guy who is outraged about this ****, and who has strong opinions. My opinions are colored by own life experiences - I have seen bullying like this in high school. I KNOW what it does to people. And I know that a line was crossed.
So yes, trash.
Simple as that.
Dont like it? Side with the sadists. There is really no middle ground here.
Wait. What line was crossed? Who was "bullied"? You're not providing any details and it makes it difficult for anyone to sympathize with your position. In a nutshell, all we have to go with is that you personally have decided that some EVE players are "trash", you are outraged about "****", you are quitting the game (but are still here), and that some "line was crossed". Are you the dude in the TS recording that is going around? I'm not siding with anyone, nor defending anyone's actions. I'm just asking for you to provide some details and start making sense.
Are you not following the 65+ page thread tied for top spot with this one? The basis for Luminous' grievance is no secret.
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LUMINOUS SPIRIT
The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People
209
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Posted - 2014.03.25 23:37:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:LinkThis is CCP's attitude to RL bullying in their game. Using a public forum to mock and humiliate players both in game actions and out of game circumstances. Taking a private communication and broadcasting it to an entire public audience by putting it on a projector. Not only a breach of privacy but a breach of law. CCP is very lucky that didn't escalate, the guy didn't self harm and they didn't get sued.
Kind of puts this in perspective eh. |
One Eyed Runner
State War Academy Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2014.03.25 23:38:00 -
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Nalelmir Ahashion wrote:Forum Clone 77777 wrote: C'mon people, scamming is allowed, has always been allowed.
It's not the scamming it's the Teamspeak recording. I agree that the victim was not the sharpest knife out there but it's same like abusing autistic person and upload it on youtube for giggles.
did he/she give permission to be recorded? in USA if he didn't that is against the law in most states...just sayin
I live in Jita so f*ck off |
Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
1923
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Posted - 2014.03.25 23:39:00 -
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LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:LinkThis is CCP's attitude to RL bullying in their game. Using a public forum to mock and humiliate players both in game actions and out of game circumstances. Taking a private communication and broadcasting it to an entire public audience by putting it on a projector. Not only a breach of privacy but a breach of law. CCP is very lucky that didn't escalate, the guy didn't self harm and they didn't get sued. Kind of puts this in perspective eh. Very. Its outright disgusting behavior by a major game company towards its playebase. Shameful. Want to make billions a week solo running combat sites in null sec? -á Read my Exploratation Guide here -> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=309467 |
One Eyed Runner
State War Academy Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2014.03.25 23:43:00 -
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Feyth Yinleq wrote:I am waiting for an answer from CCP to my ticket on this matter.
If nothing moves, I will join the club and cancel my 2 accounts definitely.
has 6 accounts, will see what happens then decide I live in Jita so f*ck off |
baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
10669
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Posted - 2014.03.25 23:45:00 -
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One Eyed Runner wrote:Nalelmir Ahashion wrote:Forum Clone 77777 wrote: C'mon people, scamming is allowed, has always been allowed.
It's not the scamming it's the Teamspeak recording. I agree that the victim was not the sharpest knife out there but it's same like abusing autistic person and upload it on youtube for giggles. did he/she give permission to be recorded? in USA if he didn't that is against the law in most states...just sayin
You are playing an icelandic game with people from all over the planet. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |
Jim Era
8486
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Posted - 2014.03.25 23:49:00 -
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This thread makes me want to sub another account that I would never use. |
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SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2510
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Posted - 2014.03.25 23:56:00 -
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DJentropy Ovaert wrote:LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:
I dont consider sadists like E1 'players'. I consider them trash, worst kind of people that take pleasure in abusing others.
Never said i was a perfect white knight. I am a normal guy who is outraged about this ****, and who has strong opinions. My opinions are colored by own life experiences - I have seen bullying like this in high school. I KNOW what it does to people. And I know that a line was crossed.
So yes, trash.
Simple as that.
Dont like it? Side with the sadists. There is really no middle ground here.
Wait. What line was crossed? Who was "bullied"? You're not providing any details and it makes it difficult for anyone to sympathize with your position. In a nutshell, all we have to go with is that you personally have decided that some EVE players are "trash", you are outraged about "****", you are quitting the game (but are still here), and that some "line was crossed". Are you the dude in the TS recording that is going around? I'm not siding with anyone, nor defending anyone's actions. I'm just asking for you to provide some details and start making sense.
Details can be found here:
http://evenews24.com/2014/03/25/jesters-trek-the-bonus-round/
I've got no problems with scamming, not that I would ever do such a thing being a member of the Honourable space guild goonswarm federation. But even this came off as a bit creepy. |
Brock Nelson
663
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Posted - 2014.03.26 00:00:00 -
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http://i.imgur.com/z4WYDTf.jpg
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Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
1924
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Posted - 2014.03.26 00:00:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:One Eyed Runner wrote:Nalelmir Ahashion wrote:Forum Clone 77777 wrote: C'mon people, scamming is allowed, has always been allowed.
It's not the scamming it's the Teamspeak recording. I agree that the victim was not the sharpest knife out there but it's same like abusing autistic person and upload it on youtube for giggles. did he/she give permission to be recorded? in USA if he didn't that is against the law in most states...just sayin You are playing an icelandic game with people from all over the planet. "Art. 229 Anyone officially disclosing the private affairs of another without sufficient reasons being at hand to justify the act shall be subject to fines or [imprisonment] 1) for up to 1 year." General Penal Code, Act No. 19 of 12 February 1940 Link Want to make billions a week solo running combat sites in null sec? -á Read my Exploratation Guide here -> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=309467 |
LUMINOUS SPIRIT
The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People
214
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Posted - 2014.03.26 00:04:00 -
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Well, i am doing what I can to spread the news.
Sent TL:DR to my corp, news outlets like CNN.
Need more bodies to volunteer though. Stand up and be counted! |
Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld White Mountain Coalition
1193
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Posted - 2014.03.26 00:05:00 -
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LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:I cancelled 1 money-paying subscription in protest over CCP's toleration of cyber-bullying and sociopathic behavior that crosses the line.
Yes I am talking about Erotica 1 and others like him.
I encourage others to cancel their alts as well to force CCP to clean up some of the worst aspects of EVE.
Enough is enough. There are limits. Cyber-bullying has no place in this game, or anywhere else.
If enough of us cancel our third of fourth alts for a month of two, CCP will act and clean up the community.
CANCEL SUBSCRIPTIONS UNTIL CCP ACTS.
So you are attempting to bully ccp into seeing things your way. Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction... |
Anslo
Scope Works
4571
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Posted - 2014.03.26 00:07:00 -
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Little Dragon Khamez wrote:LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:I cancelled 1 money-paying subscription in protest over CCP's toleration of cyber-bullying and sociopathic behavior that crosses the line.
Yes I am talking about Erotica 1 and others like him.
I encourage others to cancel their alts as well to force CCP to clean up some of the worst aspects of EVE.
Enough is enough. There are limits. Cyber-bullying has no place in this game, or anywhere else.
If enough of us cancel our third of fourth alts for a month of two, CCP will act and clean up the community.
CANCEL SUBSCRIPTIONS UNTIL CCP ACTS. So you are attempting to bully ccp into seeing things your way. Kinda like burn jita.
amirite?
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Moneta Curran
Lunar Industries Ltd
290
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Posted - 2014.03.26 00:09:00 -
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I applaud your initiative and urge you to remove yourself from the game completely. You can contract all your stuff to me. |
Navi Annages
The Scope Gallente Federation
42
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Posted - 2014.03.26 00:13:00 -
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This game promotes Darwinism. I guess you and Sohkar are both just weak. Bye. |
baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
10677
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Posted - 2014.03.26 00:14:00 -
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LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:Well, i am doing what I can to spread the news.
Sent TL:DR to my corp, news outlets like CNN.
Need more bodies to volunteer though. Stand up and be counted!
Just to point out. You are trying to get millions of people to see this guy make an arse of himself. How does this help? Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |
Chaotix Morwen
Discord Immaterium Legio immortales CXCI
7
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Posted - 2014.03.26 00:16:00 -
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I personally love Erotica1s work (even though technically shes going against the new order code with her bot aspirant behaviour). Shes teaching players a valuable lesson, eve is full of sadistic, sociopathic freaks and they will do anything for a good ol laugh. I know, im one of them :P If your honestly foolish enough to pass over all of your assets etc. to some random person, without doing any sort of research then you deserve what your getting, id personally thank erotica1 for putting me through the ordeal of a bonus room if i was so thick to do it.
Eve isnt a place to be happy go lucky, its an arena of wit, where the dull and thick are put to the amusement of those with the capacity of forethought.
Additionally do you really think a couple of goody two shoes unsubbing their alts will really hurt CCP's profits? In fact if CCP bent to your will they would lose far more accounts from those who use every means to play the game than your alts...mind you i reckon us scumbags just use isk to buy our plex but still... |
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