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Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations CODE.
4547
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Posted - 2014.03.26 00:21:00 -
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RomeStar wrote:Erotica 1 wrote:To answer a few questions... Bad press is still better than no press at all right :) Business good..?
Yes.
A widot guy already answered the "why" part many pages ago, yet people keep asking. Sohkar could have won if he made it through the gauntlet without failing. The bonus round is not designed to be easy. However, those that show full faith win big.
Many contestants say that the bonus round is the most fun they've ever had in EVE, even if they lose everything. Some claim they were about to quit EVE anyway and wanted to go out in style. I can't blame them.
See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did. |
Kirsi Kirjasto
Aggressive Structural Steel Expediting Services
16
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Posted - 2014.03.26 00:21:00 -
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Lee Thrace wrote: If there needs to be a ban let CCP remove both of these trite figures.
If by 'both' you mean Ripard Teg and Sohkhar, thumbs up! |
Speedkermit Damo
Demonic Retribution Nullsec Ninjas
270
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Posted - 2014.03.26 00:23:00 -
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Winchester Steele wrote:Faenir Antollare wrote:This whole affair is very poor publicity for both CCP and Eve and as such I personally believe that CCP should do more to discourage such behavior. You are 100% right! I hereby call for Ripard Tegs immediate dismissal from the CSM and permanent banning of all accounts and assets. This wouldn't be any publicity at all if that idiot hadn't written a self-serving white knight blog about it. Ccp is a business after all. Can't have wild guns like ****** Teg out there giving bad publicity when they should be promoting the game.
You seem mad. Are you gnashing your teeth right now little fella? Don't Panic.
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Avio Yaken
Scope Works
3
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Posted - 2014.03.26 00:24:00 -
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Erotica 1 wrote:RomeStar wrote:Erotica 1 wrote:To answer a few questions... Bad press is still better than no press at all right :) Business good..? Yes. A widot guy already answered the "why" part many pages ago, yet people keep asking. Sohkar could have won if he made it through the gauntlet without failing. The bonus round is not designed to be easy. However, those that show full faith win big. Many contestants say that the bonus round is the most fun they've ever had in EVE, even if they lose everything. Some claim they were about to quit EVE anyway and wanted to go out in style. I can't blame them.
obvious scam is obvious
T.T https://dust514.com/recruit/S68k5l/
Get a rifle dammit! join the dust forces today! |
Salvos Rhoska
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
591
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Posted - 2014.03.26 00:24:00 -
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Erotica 1 wrote:Many contestants say that the bonus round is the most fun they've ever had in EVE, even if they lose everything.
Except its not IN EVE.
Its in an OUT OF GAME "Bonus Room".
Scams are valid only WITHIN EVE. Not outside of it.
That is where you fked up, utterly. |
Snitches Laden
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
6
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Posted - 2014.03.26 00:24:00 -
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Erotica 1 wrote:RomeStar wrote:Erotica 1 wrote:To answer a few questions... Bad press is still better than no press at all right :) Business good..? Yes. A widot guy already answered the "why" part many pages ago, yet people keep asking. Sohkar could have won if he made it through the gauntlet without failing. The bonus round is not designed to be easy. However, those that show full faith win big. Many contestants say that the bonus round is the most fun they've ever had in EVE, even if they lose everything. Some claim they were about to quit EVE anyway and wanted to go out in style. I can't blame them.
if that's the case erotica why don't you show the world that your legit and not a scam? allow the ever community to see what you do? |
Winchester Steele
547
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Posted - 2014.03.26 00:24:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Muestereate wrote:This harmless singing humiliation thing. I've only heard about it in child's playgrounds... and mafia/military films.
Just for perspective Is Erotica in his teens yet? If so this is evidence of a compulsive uncontrollable age regression. The malice and forethought plus the regression is typical of most incarcerated criminals. Under the hardened skin is a child treating others as they themselves have been treated. They take on their parents or significant relationships role, Curse or Witch role depending on gender, They are similar except for repressed sexual content or lack thereof.
In most of the sympathizers response we see the banal script of powerlessness as it has been called. In the proponents of this action, through their referrals to legality are playing out the banal script of Inequality. This script has a lot to do with competition. Unfortunately the competition is between male and female psyches. Erotica is of course the female being the manipulator. When a woman does this to a man its amusing until it get destructive. Its actually a form of penile envy that expresses itself like most jealousies as a passive aggresive angry vengeance (oral violence). As the severity of the game progresses it develops from oral to anal elements. And yes, extreme obsessions with rigid structures is an anal compulsion.
In real life this is what women do to men when they lead them on and then reject them acting outraged. It can progress to actual charges of *** or violence against the person they are victimizing. Many have seen this in action in the clubs. You know, the ones that flash you then act as if they didn't do it and that your a meat hound. The only solution is to stay away, we know that, and thats why we stay away. The undercurrent is to prove the victim is lascivious, thereby justifying that all men are bad and avoiding the pain of dealing with her daddy issues.
One last point about the anal characteristics of this female game. According to Erickson human development theory, the perpetrator was perpetrated on a bit later. Probably between 3.5 to 8 years. Erotica would do well to isolate trauma(s) during this age, abandonment, abuse, and shame projections of others and have a professional help (HER) process it.
Barring Erotica's own seeking of help, do to the poor adaptation of these women, they do not tolerate antithesis well and usually run if not supported by others of peer to continue there justification of man hatred. Without admiration the patient flees treatment and is instead best counseled with groups of similar minded peers that have shown some reversal. These people don' t pile on the shame and pain on top of subconscious wounds. CCP would do many people a service including Erotica by not condoning this play-style. Its an illness. Waht kind of insane sexist bullcrap is this?
This thread is really bringing out the loonies.
This game is built around the likes of us. It's not the assholes that are playing the wrong game. - James Amril-Kesh. |
baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
10678
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Posted - 2014.03.26 00:25:00 -
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Avio Yaken wrote:Erotica 1 wrote:RomeStar wrote:Erotica 1 wrote:To answer a few questions... Bad press is still better than no press at all right :) Business good..? Yes. A widot guy already answered the "why" part many pages ago, yet people keep asking. Sohkar could have won if he made it through the gauntlet without failing. The bonus round is not designed to be easy. However, those that show full faith win big. Many contestants say that the bonus round is the most fun they've ever had in EVE, even if they lose everything. Some claim they were about to quit EVE anyway and wanted to go out in style. I can't blame them. obvious scam is obvious T.T
The beautiful thing about this scam is that people can win it. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |
Kirsi Kirjasto
Aggressive Structural Steel Expediting Services
20
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Posted - 2014.03.26 00:27:00 -
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Erotica 1 wrote:RomeStar wrote:Erotica 1 wrote:To answer a few questions... Bad press is still better than no press at all right :) Business good..? Yes. A widot guy already answered the "why" part many pages ago, yet people keep asking. Sohkar could have won if he made it through the gauntlet without failing. The bonus round is not designed to be easy. However, those that show full faith win big. Many contestants say that the bonus round is the most fun they've ever had in EVE, even if they lose everything. Some claim they were about to quit EVE anyway and wanted to go out in style. I can't blame them.
I was laughing out loud during the bit where Sohkar got all excited about singing the Gummy Bear Song, not realizing his special version of the song was not the version intended...... |
Silvara Nocturn
Nocturn Industries
54
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Posted - 2014.03.26 00:29:00 -
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All this could not have happened without eve assets so its not entirely out of game. I think ccp could make a case for this if they want to take action.
This entire thread is arguing semantics and bad analogies and should be nuked. |
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baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
10682
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Posted - 2014.03.26 00:31:00 -
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Silvara Nocturn wrote: This entire thread is arguing semantics and bad analogies and should be nuked.
It should. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
4503
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Posted - 2014.03.26 00:31:00 -
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Silvara Nocturn wrote:All this could not have happened without eve assets so its not entirely out of game. I think ccp could make a case for this if they want to take action.
This entire thread is arguing semantics and bad analogies and should be nuked.
Ahem... "nuked".
From where? Bring back DEEEEP Space! |
Genseric Tollaris
SniggWaffe WAFFLES.
111
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Posted - 2014.03.26 00:33:00 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Silvara Nocturn wrote:All this could not have happened without eve assets so its not entirely out of game. I think ccp could make a case for this if they want to take action.
This entire thread is arguing semantics and bad analogies and should be nuked. Ahem... "nuked". From where?
Orbit. Its the only way to be sure. |
LUMINOUS SPIRIT
The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People
215
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Posted - 2014.03.26 00:33:00 -
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Avio Yaken wrote:Erotica 1 wrote:To answer a few questions...
I'll be undocking tonight to go find some war targets. I was bored last night, so we spent 600m on decs. I am really bad at pvp though, just look at my kb.
We have had winners. In fact, just about a week ago, the prize pot got so large that we may be awarding an avatar in lieu of isk. Though that client exhibited some troubling Code noncompliant signs, so that is not guaranteed (waiting on additional tests).
Does this mean I get to go around on all the talk shows? I'll consent to doing it with a few prior contestants. No, I'm not dressing up as Ero. Yes, I might be able to be convinced to sing off key. I have sung before in bonus rounds, though escrow agents have asked I never do it again. I'm practicing "Behind Blue Eyes." can i just ask, WHY you did that? i mean you did psuh this innocent man over the edge for a bullshit gain
Hes a sadist a bully. Those dont need a 'why'. |
Sabriz Adoudel
Mission BLITZ
2353
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Posted - 2014.03.26 00:34:00 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote: Bad press for CCP when knowledge of this and the recording proliferates.
Good press for CCP when they take action on it.
Both press, net profit.
Throwing Erotica1 out on his ass is a paltry price to pay for that. Nobody will question that CCP is utterly within its rights, and sufficiently justified, to do so. And nobody will miss him anyways.
As is demonstrated in this thread, and in which I have been keeping count of individual posters and their expressed views, the community is overwhelmingly against what he has done as evidenced in the recording.
Any ban for Ero that isn't met with bans for the people who threatened to kill him or otherwise threatened violence will definitely NOT be good press for CCP at all. Ero would be within his rights to compile a list of them and subpoena CCP to get their RL names to press charges against some of them, and the damage that would do to CCP would be significant. Especially if CCP have not taken action over those threats.
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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
4319
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Posted - 2014.03.26 00:34:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Silvara Nocturn wrote: This entire thread is arguing semantics and bad analogies and should be nuked.
It should.
Needs more Tippia, to be honest. That's when the fun really starts.
Mr Epeen
There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass! |
Galdrak
Interplanetary Trade Federation
11
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Posted - 2014.03.26 00:35:00 -
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Erotica 1 wrote:RomeStar wrote:Erotica 1 wrote:To answer a few questions... Bad press is still better than no press at all right :) Business good..? Yes. . The bonus round is not designed to be easy. However, those that show full faith win big. Many contestants say that the bonus round is the most fun they've ever had in EVE, even if they lose everything. Some claim they were about to quit EVE anyway and wanted to go out in style. I can't blame them.
as the sadist said to the masochist when he said hurt me....... NO!
at no point did he stand a chance of getting back anything you scammed from him. playing your game would never lead to him gaining from you. players like you are getting more common in eve, the new psychotic pilots with intelligent rebuttals for awful behaviour,
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Snitches Laden
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
6
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Posted - 2014.03.26 00:35:00 -
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Genseric Tollaris wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Silvara Nocturn wrote:All this could not have happened without eve assets so its not entirely out of game. I think ccp could make a case for this if they want to take action.
This entire thread is arguing semantics and bad analogies and should be nuked. Ahem... "nuked". From where? Orbit. Its the only way to be sure.
game over man game over |
Berendas
The Learning Curve. The Marmite Collective
821
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Posted - 2014.03.26 00:35:00 -
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I can't believe this thread has surpassed 70 pages. Sohkar was a fool and payed for it, as is EVE's way. The humiliation, or "bullying" as some of you insist on calling it, only came about as a consequence of his own willful actions. Sohkar is the only person at fault, for being unfamiliar with the rules of EVE. Erotica 1 did nothing more than separate the chaff from the wheat.
The number of people who have this nanny-minded view of EVE is simply staggering. Why should a player get banned because his/her actions reached an arbitrary designated frustration threshold in another player? Should every player that gets on my lossmail be banned if I can muster up a certain degree of anger about it?
"A scam is what happens when someone takes advantage of your misplaced trust, temporary confusion or ignorance of game rules, and robs you via legal in-game means. When this occurs, there is nothing the Support Team can do for you. Although low and despicable, scams do not violate any game mechanics and can not be compensated for by the GMs, nor can the scammers generally be punished for their actions."
This excerpt from the official EVE knowledge base should be the beginning and end of the entire discussion. |
Kethry Avenger
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
82
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Posted - 2014.03.26 00:35:00 -
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My 2 cents.
I think all the stuff done in the game is ok and in the spirit of EVE. Though if one of the devs could think up a way to warn new players that the rest of us are evil in game and we really will take all your in game stuff and not to trust us right away would probably be good.
I think using EVE to hunt for victims to bully is actually evil and the TOS or EULA should be amended in some way to give CCP more justification for banning these types of players. Until people like this grow up or get their heads fixed they should not be welcome in this community.
I also believe CCP doesn't need to do anything to the EULA and if anyone has made public acts such as these, recording the bulling of others, they should be banned anyway. |
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John XIII
Northstar Cabal Tactical Narcotics Team
134
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Posted - 2014.03.26 00:37:00 -
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One time I logged onto the Eve-o forums and didn't see the General Discussion link. That was a good day. |
admiral root
Red Galaxy Disband.
1038
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Posted - 2014.03.26 00:38:00 -
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Kethry Avenger wrote:the TOS or EULA should be amended in some way to give CCP more justification for banning these types of players.
They already have all the justification they need - it clearly says that they can ban anyone they want for any reason they want (or no reason at all). No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff |
Malcolm Shinhwa
Bad Touches
1493
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Posted - 2014.03.26 00:38:00 -
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Silvara Nocturn wrote:All this could not have happened without eve assets so its not entirely out of game. I think ccp could make a case for this if they want to take action.
This entire thread is arguing semantics and bad analogies and should be nuked.
Nooooooooo! I've gotten probably 50 fake internet points out of this thread, and apparently make believe stuff is worth freakingthe hell out for... so don't nuke this thread!!!!!
In fact all of my posts have ben "liked" by one side and not the other...so...
Sohkar you poor abused racist bro, I feel you!!! Ban Erotica 1 ban him so hard his mother feels it in her gut!!!!
and death to the 1-X robots!!!! I know violence isn't the answer. I got it wrong on purpose. |
Winchester Steele
552
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Posted - 2014.03.26 00:39:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:baltec1 wrote:Tancred Xero wrote:Quote:Permabans for saying something mean? I don't condone taking the mick out of the way someone speaks (unless you're Welsh), nor do I do it (unless you're Welsh), but people like you are the reason a fat guy can get arrested for telling a joke about fat people in England. Check the length of the recording. That stuff went on for over an hour, with the player's in-game assets being used as leverage to continue the abuse. This was not an isolated off-hand comment. He could have left at any time. He could have followed his wife's advice. I (and every married guy) knows that is an extreme suggestion, but this situation warrants it lol.
I always listen to my wife. Especially when she is reading the same thread as me . This game is built around the likes of us. It's not the assholes that are playing the wrong game. - James Amril-Kesh. |
Snitches Laden
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
9
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Posted - 2014.03.26 00:40:00 -
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Berendas wrote:I can't believe this thread has surpassed 70 pages. Sohkar was a fool and payed for it, as is EVE's way. The humiliation, or "bullying" as some of you insist on calling it, only came about as a consequence of his own willful actions. Sohkar is the only person at fault, for being unfamiliar with the rules of EVE. Erotica 1 did nothing more than separate the chaff from the wheat.
The number of people who have this nanny-minded view of EVE is simply staggering. Why should a player get banned because his/her actions reached an arbitrarily designated frustration threshold in another player? Should every player that gets on my lossmails be banned if I can muster up a certain degree of anger about it?
"A scam is what happens when someone takes advantage of your misplaced trust, temporary confusion or ignorance of game rules, and robs you via legal in-game means. When this occurs, there is nothing the Support Team can do for you. Although low and despicable, scams do not violate any game mechanics and can not be compensated for by the GMs, nor can the scammers generally be punished for their actions."
This excerpt from the official EVE knowledge base should be the beginning and end of the entire discussion.
I find it interesting how people justify his actions regardless of them being allowed or not by game policy yet these same individuals would have probally acted in the same fashion had this happened to them.
food for thought the the german populous drank the **** koolaid to and look what it got them. just because something is legally okay doesn't make it morally right. |
Louis Robichaud
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
189
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Posted - 2014.03.26 00:42:00 -
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I'm not sure I have it in me to read a 72 page long threadnaught...
But I'll say this. The problem isn't that Erotica1 scammed the poor bastard. The problem is what happened *afterwards*. Hours of humiliation and abuse. Why? The isk is already won.
It's a sand *box*, not a sand dune. Not all content has value.
I'm not entirely sure where the line is, but it's very obvious that Erotica1 has crossed it by several miles. Ban the creep. |
Sabriz Adoudel
Mission BLITZ
2355
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Posted - 2014.03.26 00:43:00 -
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Finally, some moderation seems to have started.
I sincerely hope the threats of violence are removed from this thread now.
Criticizing Ero is fair game, he can give as good as he takes. Saying rules should be changed so that the 'bonus rooms' are no longer OK is fair game too (even though I do not agree). Saying Ero should be bashed IRL, or that "we should shut up until the CSM election so we can find out who he is IRL" is totally unacceptable and should have no place on these forums at all. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=326497 --áPsychotic Monk for CSM! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content. If you want to mine in highsec, read www.minerbumping.com. |
EI Digin
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
1886
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Posted - 2014.03.26 00:44:00 -
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Snitches Laden wrote: I find it interesting how people justify his actions regardless of them being allowed or not by game policy yet these same individuals would have probally acted in the same fashion had this happened to them.
food for thought the the german populous drank the **** koolaid to and look what it got them. just because something is legally okay doesn't make it morally right.
aaaaand Godwin's law.
I think this thread has run its course. |
Salvos Rhoska
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
604
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Posted - 2014.03.26 00:44:00 -
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Sabriz Adoudel wrote:Any ban for Ero that isn't met with bans for the people who threatened to kill him or otherwise threatened violence will definitely NOT be good press for CCP at all. Ero would be within his rights to compile a list of them and subpoena CCP to get their RL names to press charges against some of them, and the damage that would do to CCP would be significant. Especially if CCP have not taken action over those threats.
No lol.
Let me explain.
Erotica1 is sourcing his victims from WITHIN EVE for purposes of scamming them OUTSIDE OF EVE.
He is predating on the EVE community for targets that he takes from within the game, by means of ingame scams, to an external environment where the "acceptability" of his scams is no longer present.
You can't extend an EVE scam into the real world. It has no legitimacy there, and becomes, infact, criminal.
He failed to recognise that though scamming is ok within EVE, it is NOT ok to extend those scams to an external out of game "Bonus Room" environment.
This is explicitly against just about everything in the EULA. This alone is all the reason CCP needs to terminate his account.
The above has nothing to do with actually happens in the recording (though it is reprehensible). CCP does not need to even listen to the recording to have grounds for terminating his account.
Erotica1, on his part, can try to press charges against Sohkar for what he said in the recording, but it will never work. 1) CCP is not responsible for what people say in OUT OF GAME CHANNELS, and therefore its pointless to subpoena them for Sohkar's identity. 2) Erotica1 can however try to subpoena whoever owns the TS server he conducts his private little "Bonus Room" torture cell in for his IP. Good luck with that! 3) Any judge/jury will recognise that Sohkars outbursts are a result of duress, piled with harassment, humiliating and degrading demands. |
Moneta Curran
Lunar Industries Ltd
290
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Posted - 2014.03.26 00:44:00 -
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Greedy idiot subjects himself to ridicule. News at 11.
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