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Herzyr
Oath of the Forsaken
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Posted - 2014.02.09 20:24:00 -
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I was wondering, at what point does one in EvE truly goes after T2 and bigger ships? When you get more experience? When you have more ISK? When you have the ''right'' fitting skills?
I am at a crossroads right in deciding when to train, I live in a C6 WH with a corp, and as everyone knows, a C6 is no place for a newbie, At the moment my corp fleet doctrine states that a full T2 Tank and a ABC is required to at least participate in fleet activities to make ISK but I'm still in the fence as to I should really jump into a ABC since I have with little to no previous experiences in anything bigger than a frigate, that and add the low support,fitting skills AND low ISK to make matters muddy as hell.
And here's the conondrum, I love small ships and I am planning on training Interceptors and Stealth Bombers, but, again, when do you truly decide to train for them? I am working on fitting skills and I already have Minmatar BC I to try to ''join'' the fleet in PvE activities but the golden rule of EvE states that ''Do not fly anything you can afford to lose'' and this applies cleanly here, I know living in a WH you make a lot of ISK but that is true IF you have the right tools for the job, anything below a BC in a C6 is ******** and this goes doubly for me, I am simply stuck doing gas mining to gather some measly ISK since there doesn't seem to be any other ISK faucets for me at the moment, I could try joining a corp fleet as a salvager but I don't know if I will really get any ISK since I'm just picking up scraps and not getting Sleeper Bounties.
So I ask to any experienced WH dweller, what would you do if this were your case or if you have gone through this before.
P.S: I know this sounds as a rant but its the other way around, I would have quit out of boredom of staying in hisec, life in WH is where I like it most even though it means a logistics nightmare from the POV of a K-space dweller.
Thanks to anyone in advance who offers some insight to this. |
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors Late Night Alliance
4874
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Posted - 2014.02.09 20:38:00 -
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Personally speaking... when I was younger I had two conditions;
1. When I felt comfortable in the class of ships available to me, I moved up. If I failed miserably, moved back down until I felt comfortable again. I repeated this process until I got to battleships.
2. Before moving up to Tech 2 ships I tried to have access to most Tech 2 equipment first. I wouldn't always use Tech 2 equipment on Tech 2 ships (sometimes you are better off using Meta 4 stuff)... but having the related skills to a certain level did give me an extra edge.
Understand that these two things I outlines above were MY personal conditions and were "quick and dirty" ones at that. There are exceptions to everything and not having exactly the right skills at the right levels never actually stopped me from doing what I wanted to do (I did keep in mind that I did have more of a handicap though). Change isn't bad, but it isn't always good. Sometimes, the oldest and most simple of things can be the most elegant and effective. |
Kitty Bear
Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam Disturbed Acquaintance
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Posted - 2014.02.09 20:54:00 -
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pretty much what shah says.
going from frig to cruisers means you should also be ready to start training the specific medium weapon system and the same holds for cruiser to battleship, but with respect to large weapons.
frigate to destroyer, and for the most part cruiser to battlecruiser isn't that much of an issue, as they use the same weapon systems
the support skills for a small projectile, are the same for medium & large aswell eve is best approached with patience
there is no finish line there is no first or last place
eve is a race set on a Mobius strip |
J'Poll
CDG Playgrounds
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Posted - 2014.02.09 22:12:00 -
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Simple answer:
When ever you feel like you are ready for it Want to have some chat in game? Need help to get into the game as a new player? Just join my channel: Crazy Dutch Guy |
Forest Archer
Explorer Corps Disavowed.
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Posted - 2014.02.09 22:30:00 -
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1. Go for t2 when you are ready. By ready I mean feel comfortable. 2. Sleepers have no bounties, in our sites salvagers get the same cut as anyone else participating. Though you need salvaging 4 min and able to fly a noctis. Always willing to help all you have to do is ask, though if your in the other fleet I may not help the way you want. Just a heads up. |
Sabriz Adoudel
Mission BLITZ
1996
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Posted - 2014.02.09 23:17:00 -
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I moved up in size whenever I felt I could absorb the loss of the new ship class.
So when a 55m loss (what a Myrmidron cost at the time) was no longer crippling, I went up to a battlecruiser as a newbie.
I trained tech 2 frigates at about the same time as battleships and tech 2 cruisers some time later. I *love* flying the latter now.
Edit: What's your wormhole's static? If you are a C6 with a C4 static, you might train differently to if you were in a C6/C6. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=318489 - Proposal for a new type of tech 2 Destroyer If you want to mine in highsec, read www.minerbumping.com. |
Cara Forelli
Darkstorm Corporation
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Posted - 2014.02.10 00:23:00 -
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C6 is a bit rough for a new players, because there's very little chance you'll be able to fun sites in your home system. There's plenty of ways to make ISK in wormhole space though.
1. Salvaging - This is really the best activity for new players. No one wants to salvage but it's a very important job, and all the profit comes from here since there are no sleeper bounties. I believe you can salvage sleeper wrecks with a tech 1 salvager in a destroyer, as long as you've fit salvaging rigs. If you can't fit the rigs I'm sure someone in your corp can fit them for you.
2. Gas mining - Easy money. Look out for "Instrumental" and "Vital" core reservoirs. They have the best gas (though they are the most difficult to clear of npcs)
3. Exploration - You won't be able to run data/relic sites in wormhole space because they have sleepers. However, living in a C6 you will often be connected to null sec where there is an abundance of quiet systems with valuable loot waiting for you to come hack. Fit some data/relic analyzers to a exploration frigate and have at it.
4. Site running - This is your ultimate goal and the most profitable thing in wormhole space. It depends heavily on what class system you are in. C1-C3 sites can be run in a well tanked battlecruiser solo (C3 will be very dicey for a new player). C4 sites can be run with groups of battleships or strategic cruisers. C5-C6 sites are generally done in capital ship fleets. Find out what class sites your corp-mates are running and the types of ships they use. If it's C1-C4 sites you can train in to an appropriate ship in a month or two. I'd put this as your priority and in the mean time do numbers 1-3 to build up your wallet.
A good wormhole corp will understand that you are new and help you ease in to wormhole space by finding jobs like salvaging for you to do. I moved to a C4 when I had next to no skills and within a month I was able to participate in both PVE and PVP. Talk to your corp-mates and find out how you can help! www.ensignyooch.wordpress.com
New player with questions? Like to answer questions? Join my public channel in game:-áHouse Forelli |
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