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Angelica Puffulant
Copperhead Arsenal The Fourth District
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Posted - 2014.02.06 13:22:00 -
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Hey all,
After flying around in 0.0 for a little while now, I've come up with an interesting idea. I've noticed that the names of systems in null basically equate to glorified bar-codes, so I thought -- why cant we change the name of the system?
It makes sense from a certain logical standpoint. If an alliance has sovereignty in a system, then it would certainly seem to fall into the range of their influence for them to decide what the system is called.
That's the philosophy of my idea, but I also put some thought into an actual mechanic behind it:
If a corporation/alliance has had sovereignty in a system for a year (or so -- some long period of time) then they can apply to CONCORD for a petition to rename the system. If the name is accepted then it is made the permanent name of the system for at minimum another year (or whatever time period is appropriate.) The new name will show up in place of the old "Zip-code" name -- for lack of a better term -- wherever it was present before. If the system changes hands, the new holders have to hold the system for a year (again, or whatever time length is appropriate) starting at the exact time they gained sovereignty before they can so much as apply to change the name again.
And now for the inevitable question of "how do we filter out completely idiotic/unacceptable/vulgar names?"
I figure that "petitioning CONCORD" is more or less code for having your name suggestion land on the desk of someone at CCP. It's obvious that someone, somewhere, is going to have to look at the suggested names in order to filter out the inevitable problematic names that will be submitted. Perhaps this possibility could be even further tamped down by limiting the number of times you can petition for a system renaming to once a year -- you submit a dumb name and get rejected, you wait another year before you can file a new petition, for example.
I realize that that will be a bit of extra work for CCP, but I figure that there's really only a few thousand systems that this applies to, and I'd bet dollars to diamonds that once half of them are named once they will be highly unlikely to change again for a very long time. In other words, my prediction is that there would be an initial glut of processing renaming applications, after which they would most likely get significantly rarer, probably to the point that one or two guys could handle it as a side responsibility beyond their usual jobs. That said, I figure a rag-tag team of CCP staff could chew through the initial hump in a few weeks -- or maybe it could be delegated to the stellar counsel? Just throwing out ideas. Work is work, but I personally feel that this would be a wonderful way to enrich the experience of EVE. Adding another color to the pallet that we get to paint our little stories in EVE with, if you will.
You may now tear into my concept like a pack of gankers who just found a fresh freighter with no escort. Like it? Hate it? I'd love to know what people think of my idea! |
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
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Posted - 2014.02.06 13:26:00 -
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A patch everyday just to keep up with system name changes. No thanks. |
Angelica Puffulant
Copperhead Arsenal The Fourth District
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Posted - 2014.02.06 13:30:00 -
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Oh you think that would require system patches? Hmm... didn't think about that.
Perhaps they can be updated weekly, or otherwise in batches? If it would require a patch every time you need to change a system name, I can certainly see having a system where you don't require everyone to upload your new name the moment CCP says "yep, that's an ok name." |
Samroski
Games Inc. The Night Crew Alliance
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Posted - 2014.02.06 13:32:00 -
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Some of these names are as well known as Jita or Amarr. They have historic significance, and many capsuleers may be attached to them. Changing names of systems will cause massive confusion in navigation as well.
1/10 Any colour you like. |
Angelica Puffulant
Copperhead Arsenal The Fourth District
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Posted - 2014.02.06 13:43:00 -
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Aye, I figured that would be true in some cases. It certainly wont be mandatory to change the names, but you have to admit, for every one system that people know instantly, there's 20 that are gibberish to everyone that doesnGÇÖt live in the constellation.
Also, you have to take into account that a name change would essentially require the consent of the entire alliance. It's not something one random guy can just do without asking everyone -- they'd have him strung up by his thumbs before he knew what hit him.
It is also just as possible to note the historic name of the system right along side the new permanent name.
random example: System Name #3 (BZ3-DI7)
Or even perhaps a Phase out period, where the above would only persist for 6 months or something -- or even adding the historic names to the info-box on the system. there's ways to work that out, I think. |
Victor Andall
Complexes and Abaddons
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Posted - 2014.02.06 13:44:00 -
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Highsec filthy pubbie chiming in:
I would imagine Nullsec Alliances have really complex strategic spreadsheets with complex planning in regards to the system names as they are right now.
Imagine having to find out exactly which system changed from CK-RCK to Cockrocket (I found out this isn't profanity filtered today, so I'm riding the high) overnight and then update all their strategic information to fit the whims of the current system owner.
Each time someone finds it funny to change a system name.
Each time. I just undocked for the first time and someone challenged me to a duel. Wat do?
http://andallcombat.wordpress.com/current-tournament/ |
Ptraci
3 R Corporation Boarderline Cartel
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Posted - 2014.02.06 13:46:00 -
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Definitely not the millionth "hey let's have (insert some player/alliance mechanic here) to name systems!" post I have read.
Oh, and I could have sworn I wasn't reading F+I. I thought this was GD. Reporting (another) bug in the forum code... |
Ptraci
3 R Corporation Boarderline Cartel
1752
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Posted - 2014.02.06 13:47:00 -
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Victor Andall wrote:Highsec filthy pubbie chiming in:
I would imagine Nullsec Alliances have really complex strategic spreadsheets with complex planning in regards to the system names as they are right now.
Imagine having to find out exactly which system changed from CK-RCK to Cockrocket (I found out this isn't profanity filtered today, so I'm riding the high) overnight and then update all their strategic information to fit the whims of the current system owner.
Each time someone finds it funny to change a system name.
Each time.
They do it to the stations out here all the time, everyone ignores it unless you live there or are shooting at it and have nothing better to do for 10 mins to 6 hours depending how many supercaps are with you... |
Slade Trillgon
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.02.06 13:50:00 -
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Have you seen some of the names for stations in null
Giving the option to change system names is bad idea for a multitude of reason. Historical importance is number one as pointed out above....well navigation is probably number one |
Angelica Puffulant
Copperhead Arsenal The Fourth District
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Posted - 2014.02.06 13:50:00 -
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._. ah. I see IGÇÖm not the first to take a crack at this particular idea.
nobody can be original in this world, I swear.
Oh well, I tried. |
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Angelica Puffulant
Copperhead Arsenal The Fourth District
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Posted - 2014.02.06 14:12:00 -
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Despite the historical and navigational significance of system names, it does have a certain amount of classic EVE flavor to change it anyway just to screw with everybody else. If you want the system to retain it's standard name, then go get sovereignty in it! :P I can see people relishing that opportunity, on both sides of the coin.
In a game where half of the mechanics include bigger and more crafty ways to blow each other up, you're really going to complain about a minor logistical headache? Nah, i personally think it'd be a good addition if a sane method of implementation could be found -- then again, everyone is allowed an opinion I suppose. |
Jayem See
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.02.06 17:07:00 -
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Instead of renaming the system why not let the sov-holder add a five hundred character description to the system.
That way they can add some local flavour...probably including willies and catz...but hey - you wouldn't HAVE to look at it Aaaaaaand relax. |
Malcolm Shinhwa
Bad Touches
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Posted - 2014.02.06 17:09:00 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote:A patch everyday just to keep up with system name changes. No thanks.
And think of poor Dotlan! I know violence isn't the answer. I got it wrong on purpose. |
Stitcher
Alexylva Paradox
3096
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Posted - 2014.02.06 17:14:00 -
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I don't know, while it does kind of pique the imagination to be able to plant your flag and name a system - my own corp being roleplayers use the name "Origin" for our home Worhome system - you just know that it would end in somebody having to give the order "Fleet, set distination for the 8==D~ system" An in-character blog and a video: http://verinsjournal.blogspot.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu1mbsgo738
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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
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Posted - 2014.02.06 18:34:00 -
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Victor Andall wrote:Highsec filthy pubbie chiming in....
Its sounds like a goon alt...but isn't in an NPC corp....
The jury is still out on you sir.... Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
CompleteFailure
Polaris Rising Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2014.02.06 18:53:00 -
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Player-named systems, eh?
IB4 "everyone set desty to Dickbutt" |
Ptraci
3 R Corporation Boarderline Cartel
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Posted - 2014.02.07 13:52:00 -
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Angelica Puffulant wrote:._. ah. I see IGÇÖm not the first to take a crack at this particular idea.
nobody can be original in this world, I swear.
Oh well, I tried.
Welcome to life, kid. Imagine my shock when I was 5 and I discovered that someone had already published quantum theory... indeed expanded on my ideas! |
Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations CODE.
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Posted - 2014.02.07 13:58:00 -
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Changing street names is confusing. See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did. |
Deadonstick Puppyseeker
Scarlet...Widow
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Posted - 2014.02.07 15:54:00 -
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The null sec zipcode names are terrible. But unfortunately I am attached to some of them and know about quite a lot of them. Unfortunately this is one of these things that should have been done from the beginning, rather than in late,late,late,late retrospect. Despite what you may have heard there's only one rule of EVE:
Never stop learning and realise there's always a lot more to be learned. To this end, seek wisdom in everything. |
Ptraci
3 R Corporation Boarderline Cartel
1755
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Posted - 2014.02.07 16:46:00 -
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Deadonstick Puppyseeker wrote:The null sec zipcode names are terrible.
Meh you get used to them after a while. After all a name is just another abstraction. What's in a name? :)
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