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Masao Kurata
Z List
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Posted - 2014.02.07 22:20:00 -
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Kiryen O'Bannon wrote:2. Highsec pvp is now back to where it was before the MTU was introduced. Quit whining. Mission ganking is carebear ganking.
It is not back to where it was, as addressed in my post. The change to drone AI has affected more than deployables. |
Cannibal Kane
My Little Ponies of the Apocalypse Cannibal Empire
3269
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Posted - 2014.02.07 22:50:00 -
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Demerius Xenocratus wrote:Sierra Tango Foxtrot Uniform with the ad hominem why don't you?
If your playstyle consists of bashing newer players in hisec with vastly superior resources and skills, you are a tard. There's just no way around it. I can see an argument for an utterly darwinian game just for fun; if you think human society should operate that way you're 1) a sociopath and 2) don't understand evolution.
I will repeat myself SLOWLY - go to low or null and try to grief someone that can shoot back. I reject your philosophy and I don't plan on leaving. I'm going to train my skills to a reasonable level and I'm going to kill you and your friends.
Oh cool...
New War Targets. "I saw him fight by the monument in Jita. He flowed in his Machariel like a Shinto spirit, 800MM shells sprouting in his passing. His hair flowed in the corona of his target's warp core breach. It was truly majestic. And while everyone stared in awe I stole the loot and ran off. Because I am like that." - NEONOVUS |
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
15959
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Posted - 2014.02.08 01:31:00 -
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Demerius Xenocratus wrote:I can see an argument for an utterly darwinian game just for fun That's just it, Eve is a Darwinian game, it's Lord Of The Flies with spaceships.
Quote:if you think human society should operate that way you're 1) a sociopath and 2) don't understand evolution. Irrelevant, this is a game, whether people decide to play as white hats or black hats has little or no relation to their real life persona. The clue in in the letters RPG tacked onto the end of MMO.
Quote:I will repeat myself SLOWLY - go to low or null and try to grief someone that can shoot back. Why should people have to go to low or nullsec? Highsec is just as valid an area for shooting people in the face and is a target rich environment, it just has a few more penalties for doing so. Quote:I reject your philosophy and I don't plan on leaving. I'm going to train my skills to a reasonable level and I'm going to kill you and your friends. Good luck with both of those things, you can generally find this character in Minmatar space, make sure you bring some friends. |
Chopper Rollins
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
528
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Posted - 2014.02.08 02:53:00 -
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Golly gosh, social darwinism is a really pernicious idea isn't it? At least it's good for making it seem reasonable to force weak people into fights.
Get out of highsec you slobs, your whines about highsec are redonkulous.
Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good. |
Kiryen O'Bannon
Thrall Nation Brave Collective
55
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Posted - 2014.02.08 20:29:00 -
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Masao Kurata wrote:Kiryen O'Bannon wrote:2. Highsec pvp is now back to where it was before the MTU was introduced. Quit whining. Mission ganking is carebear ganking. It is not back to where it was, as addressed in my post. The change to drone AI has affected more than deployables.
Irrelevant. The conditions under which you can legally engage without CONCORD intervention are back where they were. The mechanics of this intervention are what define high sec pvp, given the absolute and extreme effect of CONCORD. Drome AI and the like are nitpick trivialities. |
Demerius Xenocratus
Kill for Gold Brotherhood.
2
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Posted - 2014.02.13 21:26:00 -
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I could train a scanner alt I suppose and go grief shitfit newbs in lvl 2 and 3 missions. I just don't see the point. Rather like beating a ******** child with a stick - only a particularly broken individual takes any enjoyment from the exercise. |
Sublime Rage
Righteous Immortal Pew Darwins Lemmings
1325
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Posted - 2014.02.13 23:01:00 -
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Find other ways to kill missioners,move along.Eve is ever-changing
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Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
515
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Posted - 2014.02.14 15:11:00 -
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Demerius Xenocratus wrote:I could train a scanner alt I suppose and go grief shitfit newbs in lvl 2 and 3 missions. I just don't see the point. Rather like beating a ******** child with a stick - only a particularly broken individual takes any enjoyment from the exercise. The part your missing is where said re!arded child is driving a BMW 7 Series sedan with the premium trim package, and he agrees to play chicken with me in my tweaked Honda Civic, when I show up in his neighborhood and gun my engine at him in a playful come-hither manner. Would you like to know more? |
Leto Thule
Sons of Retribution
416
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Posted - 2014.02.14 15:20:00 -
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Kiryen O'Bannon wrote:Masao Kurata wrote:Kiryen O'Bannon wrote:2. Highsec pvp is now back to where it was before the MTU was introduced. Quit whining. Mission ganking is carebear ganking. It is not back to where it was, as addressed in my post. The change to drone AI has affected more than deployables. Irrelevant. The conditions under which you can legally engage without CONCORD intervention are back where they were. The mechanics of this intervention are what define high sec pvp, given the absolute and extreme effect of CONCORD. Drome AI and the like are nitpick trivialities. Since agressive drones bypassed player choice to engage or not, they were never a valid means of generating engagements in the first place. Having drones set aggressive was not "stupid and lazy", the stupid and lazy is in relying on someone else's checkbox choices to get engagements, then crying when the exploit gets fixed.
Eh, true but somewhat not...
Drones on aggressive is still not a good idea. Things like locking you out of a gate or station, ect. Killboard
https://zkillboard.com/character/90841161/ |
Serendipity Lost
Repo Industries
125
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Posted - 2014.02.14 17:19:00 -
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I can't believe this is still going. There is hope for this forum after all!
A little perspective on the sociopath thing. I'm an old dude. I pay in my basement (it's true, but then again I remodelled it into my man cave, so I think I've earned my right to be in the basement). I've had a job since I was 16. A decent portion of that in the military. I get investigated routinely by the FBI - background checks (standard policy for my occupation). I have annual psych evals (again a job requirement). I've raised 3 children that have all been both outstanding atheletes in their chosen sports and all graduated in the top 5 of their senior class (my little one is graduating this year and she's in the running for validictorian - fingers crossed for her please - she's worked hard for it!). I'm a volunteer fireman (certified up to and including incident commander in hazmat operations) I do confined space rescue and though I've never done it - I am trained in high angle rescue. I've coached, mentored and generally helped a lot of kids grow up in the town I live in. I'm the dad ever kid knows and says 'hi' to. I'm an avid gardener. I love to bake and tbh I'm pretty good at it (home grown blueberry pie!!).
Also, while idling in empire between wh I've been ganking high end mission boats in apanake.
So.... does suicide ganking a few marauders in eve really cancel out all the stuff above it??
Screw you and your pop psychology analogies. The actual professional evaluators say I'm OK. |
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Leto Thule
Sons of Retribution
416
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Posted - 2014.02.14 17:41:00 -
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Serendipity Lost wrote:I can't believe this is still going. There is hope for this forum after all!
A little perspective on the sociopath thing. I'm an old dude. I pay in my basement (it's true, but then again I remodelled it into my man cave, so I think I've earned my right to be in the basement). I've had a job since I was 16. A decent portion of that in the military. I get investigated routinely by the FBI - background checks (standard policy for my occupation). I have annual psych evals (again a job requirement). I've raised 3 children that have all been both outstanding atheletes in their chosen sports and all graduated in the top 5 of their senior class (my little one is graduating this year and she's in the running for validictorian - fingers crossed for her please - she's worked hard for it!). I'm a volunteer fireman (certified up to and including incident commander in hazmat operations) I do confined space rescue and though I've never done it - I am trained in high angle rescue. I've coached, mentored and generally helped a lot of kids grow up in the town I live in. I'm the dad ever kid knows and says 'hi' to. I'm an avid gardener. I love to bake and tbh I'm pretty good at it (home grown blueberry pie!!).
Also, while idling in empire between wh I've been ganking high end mission boats in apanake.
So.... does suicide ganking a few marauders in eve really cancel out all the stuff above it??
Screw you and your pop psychology analogies. The actual professional evaluators say I'm OK.
Hazmat sucks. Nothin like sitting around bottled up with a hose for six hours while the glow-worms rake in the overtime!
Killboard
https://zkillboard.com/character/90841161/ |
Serendipity Lost
Repo Industries
126
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Posted - 2014.02.14 17:52:00 -
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My personal 'worst ever' was on a submarine in the navy. We had a contractor dump all the freon from our ac units inboard while in port. They evacuated the entire ship except for one watch station - the shutdown reactor operator. It happened 40 min before I relieved the guy. So it was like dead man walking as I walked past all the evacuees (spelling??), boarded the ship and relieved the guy. I spent the next 6hrs sucking rubber while they ventillated the ship. Talk about a mask confidence builder. |
Serendipity Lost
Repo Industries
126
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Posted - 2014.02.14 17:55:00 -
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If you don't want to sit in a suit at a hazmat incident just ask a coptometer (state trooper) if he thinks there should be flares to mark the area. It's a good way to do a flammability check without breaking out the meters.
J/K, please don't do this. |
Leto Thule
Sons of Retribution
416
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Posted - 2014.02.14 18:01:00 -
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Serendipity Lost wrote:If you don't want to sit in a suit at a hazmat incident just ask a coptometer (state trooper) if he thinks there should be flares to mark the area. It's a good way to do a flammability check without breaking out the meters.
J/K, please don't do this.
LFMAO! We call them "brown canaries". (MD state troopers wear brown...) Killboard
https://zkillboard.com/character/90841161/ |
Flybiere
F'n'F Inc
0
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Posted - 2014.02.27 16:39:00 -
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Demerius Xenocratus wrote:If only there were vast regions of the EVE universe dedicated solely to pvp gameplay. A place where pvp bot-aspirants could go to test their skills against challenging opponents. CCP should really get moving on that...
^This.
Nothing entertains me more than these PVP 'enthusiasts' complaining that they can't kill carebears. Mission ganking in high-sec appears as close to PVE as PVP can get. More like PVTUP. Player vs Terribly Under-Prepared Player. |
Leto Thule
Sons of Retribution
480
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Posted - 2014.02.27 16:42:00 -
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Flybiere wrote:Demerius Xenocratus wrote:If only there were vast regions of the EVE universe dedicated solely to pvp gameplay. A place where pvp bot-aspirants could go to test their skills against challenging opponents. CCP should really get moving on that... ^This. Nothing entertains me more than these PVP 'enthusiasts' complaining that they can't kill carebears. Mission ganking in high-sec appears as close to PVE as PVP can get. More like PVTUP. Player vs Terribly Under-Prepared Player.
The point is, you shouldnt BE terribly unprepared in this game. If you are, you are inviting disaster. There is no need to harp on the misconception of "PVP areas". The entire game is a PVP area. The different security zones are ONLY a means to provide different mechanics for various content, and none should be considered "safer" than any other. Killboard
https://zkillboard.com/character/90841161/ |
Flybiere
F'n'F Inc
0
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Posted - 2014.02.27 16:54:00 -
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Leto Thule wrote:Flybiere wrote:Demerius Xenocratus wrote:If only there were vast regions of the EVE universe dedicated solely to pvp gameplay. A place where pvp bot-aspirants could go to test their skills against challenging opponents. CCP should really get moving on that... ^This. Nothing entertains me more than these PVP 'enthusiasts' complaining that they can't kill carebears. Mission ganking in high-sec appears as close to PVE as PVP can get. More like PVTUP. Player vs Terribly Under-Prepared Player. The point is, you shouldnt BE terribly unprepared in this game. If you are, you are inviting disaster. There is no need to harp on the misconception of "PVP areas". The entire game is a PVP area. The different security zones are ONLY a means to provide different mechanics for various content, and none should be considered "safer" than any other.
Yes, agreed, preparation is all; But shockingly, noobs and the uninitiated are under prepared.
I'm not saying you shouldn't gank them, in fact this thread has inspired me to give some mission ganking a try.
But the MTU mechanic made it too easy in my opinion. I don't agree with a player not being able to decide in that situation. That's all. |
Leto Thule
Sons of Retribution
480
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Posted - 2014.02.27 17:01:00 -
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Gotcha. While I agree with the MTU mechanic being a tad overzealous, I think the reason many players are mad about the change is that it encourages AFK mission running. The solution should have been to keep your drones on passive, and manually target them, rather than allowing the drones to be kept on aggressive, and change the game to fit the bear.
Different outlooks with the same conclusion, I suppose. Killboard
https://zkillboard.com/character/90841161/ |
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
579
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Posted - 2014.02.27 17:52:00 -
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Flybiere wrote:Demerius Xenocratus wrote:If only there were vast regions of the EVE universe dedicated solely to pvp gameplay. A place where pvp bot-aspirants could go to test their skills against challenging opponents. CCP should really get moving on that... ^This. Nothing entertains me more than these PVP 'enthusiasts' complaining that they can't kill carebears. Mission ganking in high-sec appears as close to PVE as PVP can get. More like PVTUP. Player vs Terribly Under-Prepared Player. The lion in the serengeti serves a valuable purpose by not targeting the fastest and strongest wildebeest at the watering hole, but by ambushing and killing the slow, stupid or infirm. This prevents them from bringing down the entire herd, or dirtying up the gene pool. Most gankers are thus playing an important role in natural selection within EvE.
Heretics who denounce ganking or education-by-fire in all its forms might as well be railing against natural selection, God's will, and the reality that the Devil is on his payroll to this big picture end...
Now...are you entertained? ARE YOU ENTERTAINED?!!
p.s. Hail Satan (makes Devil horns on head with his fingers...)
Would you like to know more? |
Basil Pupkin
Why So Platypus
54
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Posted - 2014.02.28 07:19:00 -
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Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:The lion in the serengeti serves a valuable purpose by not targeting the fastest and strongest wildebeest at the watering hole, but by ambushing and killing the slow, stupid or infirm. This prevents them from bringing down the entire herd, or dirtying up the gene pool. Most gankers are thus playing an important role in natural selection within EvE. Says pansy who can't muster the courage to suicide gank anyone, despite how terribly easy that is. Needing the protection of grief dec, unable to face concord without it. I'd even agree gankers were important, if they were doing their job because of its importance, and not because it's a zero-risk activity with maximum income possible in hisec, which is so easy to do that people who are too lazy or stupid to do anything else are doing it. We should apply the principle of survival of the fittest to the gankers as well. Make ganking more difficult, so slow, stupid or infirm gankers would facewall themselves, because currently even slow, stupid or infirm are succeeding in this, which is, according to the whole HTFU paradigm you preach, is wrong. And you yourself aren't succeeding anyway, so I guess it'll be great if HTFU preaching hypocrites were the first to stumble into the abyss.
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:Heretics who denounce ganking or education-by-fire in all its forms might as well be railing against natural selection, God's will, and the reality that the Devil is on his payroll to this big picture end... Now...are you entertained? ARE YOU ENTERTAINED?!! p.s. Hail Satan (makes Devil horns on head with his fingers...) Don't forget Feyd is James315's alt, and don't take his streams of half-consciousness seriously. A crap ton equals 1000 crap loads in metric, and roughly 91 **** loads 12 bull ***** and 1 puppy's unforeseen disaster in imperial. |
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
2858
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Posted - 2014.02.28 08:02:00 -
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Basil Pupkin wrote: Don't forget Feyd is James315's alt, and don't take his streams of half-consciousness seriously.
A ten year old could tell you that is a lie. They don't have ANYTHING close to the same writing style. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á |
Basil Pupkin
Why So Platypus
54
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Posted - 2014.02.28 11:51:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Basil Pupkin wrote: Don't forget Feyd is James315's alt, and don't take his streams of half-consciousness seriously.
A ten year old could tell you that is a lie. They don't have ANYTHING close to the same writing style.
Meeting a person claiming to be studied in James315's style, divided by the amount of ten year olds playing eve, is giving rise to some grim implications.
Otherwise, please don't mind, I admit it's a mild provocative theme I fancy. That said, their blogging habits have much in common...
P.S. Any other part of my previous post you want to comment on? Perhaps you agree with it, then? A crap ton equals 1000 crap loads in metric, and roughly 91 **** loads 12 bull ***** and 1 puppy's unforeseen disaster in imperial. |
Leto Thule
Sons of Retribution
482
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Posted - 2014.02.28 12:47:00 -
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Basil Pupkin wrote: Don't forget Feyd is James315's alt, and don't take his streams of half-consciousness seriously.
Lmfao...
All bloggers must be james315 alts.
Stupid idea mate.
Killboard
https://zkillboard.com/character/90841161/ |
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
583
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Posted - 2014.02.28 17:31:00 -
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Let there be no doubt, I am indeed a unique and beautiful snowflake, with no direct relation to James315. He is however surely an instrument of God's will.
Regarding Basil Pupkis... His heresy and impudence has already cost his alliance mates several ships, as Devils and Marmite joined together to enact a campaign to educate this lost soul...
Can I Get An Amen?
Continued heresy will not go unanswered, I and my team of highly trained missionaries wiil continue to splode carebears in his stead, as he remains cowering in a station dock calling for nerfs to the land we call mother.
Inshallah.
Would you like to know more? |
Basil Pupkin
Why So Platypus
54
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Posted - 2014.02.28 19:07:00 -
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Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:Let there be no doubt, I am indeed a unique and beautiful snowflake, with no direct relation to James315. He is however surely an instrument of God's will. Regarding Basil Pupkis... His heresy and impudence has already cost his alliance mates several ships, as Devils and Marmite joined together to enact a campaign to educate this lost soul... CanIGetAnAmen? Continued heresy will not go unanswered, I and my team of highly trained missionaries wiil continue to splode carebears in his stead, as he remains cowering in a station dock calling for nerfs to the land we call mother. Inshallah.
Let me translate: I am James315 alt and we both love each other. I have disliked one guy for providing arguments I cannot refute and decided to try griefing him by killing random stupid guys from random nullsec alliance while being afraid to the bone of going one step out of Mother Concord's nest, then I got laughed in the face from the guy upon bringing those random kills to him, but I decided to delude myself that a cool kid like me did everything right and every of those random kills were that guy himself.
Please keep writing, you're so entertaining. And I feel like I haven't learned a thing yet, except realizing how cowardly risk-averse hisec pansy gankers are, how afraid are they of the dreaded second "your grief target got an ally" notification hits their mailbox, how ridiculously clueless to a basics of sandbox are they, and how much of a frogs-in-the-well-ignorant they are to think the eve is locked in their niche well of combat peeveepee, and how badly they afraid to shoot each other in their well, quacking their "please make everyone jump in our well" song. A crap ton equals 1000 crap loads in metric, and roughly 91 **** loads 12 bull ***** and 1 puppy's unforeseen disaster in imperial. |
Leto Thule
Sons of Retribution
483
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Posted - 2014.02.28 19:34:00 -
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^^
Good tears. Keep em flowing. Killboard
https://zkillboard.com/character/90841161/ |
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
583
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Posted - 2014.02.28 19:53:00 -
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Basil Pupkin wrote: ...killing random stupid guys from random nullsec alliance...
There was nothing random about the aforementioned pasta killings, pasta syndicate was targeted specifically because of your heresy in the features & ideas forum calling for nerfs, as you well know.
Your alliance mates lost ships because you shot your mouth off, calling them random stupid guys does them further disservice, and does not remove your culpability. YOU killed them, I am just the instrument.
Quote: ..while being afraid to the bone of going one step out of Mother Concord's nest...
There is no CONCORD in losec, I go where I please. Your assumptions and inept research capabilities continue, just as when you claimed this story was a fabrication. This does not build credibility.
Truly, the irony of you posting with a perma-docked station al, while saying I am afraid is....delicious. Nonetheless, your continued heresy will not go unanswered...
More innocents will die because of your call-for-nerfs heresy.
Would you like to know more? |
Leto Thule
Sons of Retribution
484
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Posted - 2014.02.28 20:07:00 -
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God wills it! Let the rivers run red with the blood of the non-believers!
Killboard
https://zkillboard.com/character/90841161/ |
Basil Pupkin
Why So Platypus
54
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Posted - 2014.02.28 21:16:00 -
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Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:Basil Pupkin wrote: ...killing random stupid guys from random nullsec alliance...
There was nothing random about the aforementioned pasta killings, pasta syndicate was targeted specifically because of your heresy in the features & ideas forum calling for nerfs, as you well know. Your alliance mates lost ships because you shot your mouth off, calling them random stupid guys does them further disservice, and does not remove your culpability. YOU killed them, I am just the instrument. Quote: ..while being afraid to the bone of going one step out of Mother Concord's nest...
There is no CONCORD in losec, I go where I please. Your assumptions and inept research capabilities continue, just as when you claimed this story was a fabrication. This does not build credibility. Truly, the irony of you posting with a perma-docked station alt, while saying I am afraid is....delicious. Nonetheless, your continued heresy will not go unanswered... More innocents will die because of your call-for-nerfs heresy. SO let it be written, do let it be done.
My tears! My tears are flowing out! I laughed so hard!!! Random griefers in response to a random alt posts targets random alliance and says "look, you killed them, you should HTFU" hahahahahahahahahaha, oh gawd I'm laughing my auss out!!! You are indeed the instrument of gods, gods of comedy! This is like that show about pet terrorists of US, who are manipulated to target US enemies, while sincerely believing they are carrying out the will of allah. Your posts resemble the scene where they make a statement to US government with the very same words "you killed them" - all the while still being their pets without even knowing! Hilarious! Give me more! Keep me entert... educated! A crap ton equals 1000 crap loads in metric, and roughly 91 **** loads 12 bull ***** and 1 puppy's unforeseen disaster in imperial. |
Louis Robichaud
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
163
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Posted - 2014.02.28 22:53:00 -
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Tootsie Fruit wrote:Seriously there is no such thing as highsec PvP. There are carebears and gankbears. Both are carebears, one just harasses the other, but at no time do they engage in anything resembling PvP.
If you want PvP goto lowsec or nulsec. No hiding behind concords skirts that gankbears like.
While I appreciate the sentiment, I have to point out that there is highsec PvP that isn't banking... |
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