Pages: 1 [2] 3 4 5 6 7 8 :: one page |
|
Author |
Thread Statistics | Show CCP posts - 1 post(s) |
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
2814
|
Posted - 2013.12.22 09:53:00 -
[31] - Quote
It's not a bug, it's Shoddy Design (TM)
Don't set your drones to aggresive and you're safe. You should be safe even if they were set to aggressive, but this is CCP what we're talking about.
Of course, having your drones to passive means you must press "F" and direct them to each target individually, but, that's not too different from what you should be doing now. The Greater Fool Bar is now open for business, 24/7. Come and have drinks and fun somewhere between RL and New Eden! |
Moneta Curran
Lunar Industries Ltd
233
|
Posted - 2013.12.22 09:56:00 -
[32] - Quote
This is just a delightful new way of farming tears. What could possibly be wrong with it.
|
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
14931
|
Posted - 2013.12.22 09:58:00 -
[33] - Quote
Mr Pragmatic wrote: Oh I dunno, how about the fact its not documented well
This is Eve, there's very little documentation about anything from CCP. |
Kate stark
1013
|
Posted - 2013.12.22 10:15:00 -
[34] - Quote
Esuntria wrote:probably.. when safety is green status, who steal my item from my wreck and get suspect , drone never attack him in before engage manually.. but, why Mobile Tractor Unit attack make drone engage to him automatically?
because stealing loot isn't an act of aggression, shooting an MTU is. Yay, this account hasn't had its signature banned. or its account, if you're reading this. |
ElQuirko
Black Dragon Fighting Society The Devil's Tattoo
2796
|
Posted - 2013.12.22 11:03:00 -
[35] - Quote
Tippia wrote:What makes you think it's a bug? Because crap drone mechanics Dodixie > Hek |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3893
|
Posted - 2013.12.22 11:07:00 -
[36] - Quote
Magna Mortem wrote:Tippia wrote:Kate stark wrote:Tippia wrote:What makes you think it's a bug? the fact that if your safety is on green you shouldn't be able to flag yourself as suspect.... But that's not what the OP is describing. He's entering a limited engagement with someone who has an S-flag. And if you were able to do your own research, you'd understand it's a bug.
Safety on Yellow prevents you from taking any actions that will incur the wrath of concord. Safety on Green prevents you from taking any actions that will give you a suspect flag. Shooting a suspect gives you a 5 minute limited engagement with said suspect. This is working as intended. This user won the forums on 18/09/2013, then lost on 18/12/2013. |
Magna Mortem
the noise a cow makes while mating
54
|
Posted - 2013.12.22 11:10:00 -
[37] - Quote
Tippia wrote:Sentamon wrote:It's clearly a bug, if you think otherwise you're trolling or drunk. To wit, it's such a huge bug that it completely disables people's ability to describe what the bug is. It was there all along, for you to see.
The drones should never agress with green safety, but they do. You can call it an oversight, a bug, or shabby game design. Either way, people who do use it for their advantage are exploiting it. |
Magna Mortem
the noise a cow makes while mating
54
|
Posted - 2013.12.22 11:11:00 -
[38] - Quote
Mallak Azaria wrote:Magna Mortem wrote:Tippia wrote:Kate stark wrote:Tippia wrote:What makes you think it's a bug? the fact that if your safety is on green you shouldn't be able to flag yourself as suspect.... But that's not what the OP is describing. He's entering a limited engagement with someone who has an S-flag. And if you were able to do your own research, you'd understand it's a bug. Safety on Yellow prevents you from taking any actions that will incur the wrath of concord. Safety on Green prevents you from taking any actions that will give you a suspect flag. Shooting a suspect gives you a 5 minute limited engagement with said suspect. This is working as intended. Except that the person doesn't need to shoot him. People are exploiting the fact that drones, which are set to aggressive, will engage them. |
Mysttina
Alpha Spectres
11
|
Posted - 2013.12.22 11:14:00 -
[39] - Quote
Does drones on agressive mode supposed to attack any suspect while safety on green (if no MTU involved) ?
If not, that is the main point raised by OP as the bug.
It's not about the victim getting limited engagement when attacking the suspect.....
|
Prince Kobol
1222
|
Posted - 2013.12.22 11:15:00 -
[40] - Quote
So let me get this straight,
If I attack a MTU and the mission runners drones are set to aggressive mode there is a chance the drones will attack me.
If this happens I will then have a limited engagement timer against the mission runner.
Wow if this is true I know what I am going ot be doing |
|
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3893
|
Posted - 2013.12.22 11:15:00 -
[41] - Quote
Magna Mortem wrote:Except that the person doesn't need to shoot him. People are exploiting the fact that drones, which are set to aggressive, will engage them.
The solution is to pay attention to what you're doing & not have them set to aggressive. There is no exploit happening here. This user won the forums on 18/09/2013, then lost on 18/12/2013. |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3893
|
Posted - 2013.12.22 11:17:00 -
[42] - Quote
Mysttina wrote:Does drones on agressive mode supposed to attack any suspect while safety on green (if no MTU involved).
The drones are attacking the suspect because the suspect is attacking one of the mission runners assets. This is also working as intended. This user won the forums on 18/09/2013, then lost on 18/12/2013. |
Lugalbandak
Anunnaku Warfare Corp.
282
|
Posted - 2013.12.22 11:18:00 -
[43] - Quote
Its not a bug , you set your drones on Aggressive , AGGRESSIVE!!! , ofcourse tey gonna shoot s flag ppl even on green, turrets cant be set Aggressive . thats a down & upside of drones. you know when you get jammed or so tey still fire etc The police horse is the only animal in the world that haz his male genitals on his back |
Sentamon
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
1234
|
Posted - 2013.12.22 11:18:00 -
[44] - Quote
Lol poor Goons still trying hard to turn highsec into nullsec.
Or is to to kill drones assist cause they break your boring blob fights? .. not sure ~ Professional Forum Alt -á~ |
Ralph King-Griffin
Var Foundation inc.
129
|
Posted - 2013.12.22 11:18:00 -
[45] - Quote
Magna Mortem wrote:Except that the person doesn't need to shoot him. People are exploiting the fact that drones, which are set to aggressive, will engage them. and the drones consider the mtu to be an extension of the player which has been agressed, just like another drone say. this one is easy man, really.
keep you drones on passive and manage them. If in doubt...do...excessively. |
Magna Mortem
the noise a cow makes while mating
54
|
Posted - 2013.12.22 11:19:00 -
[46] - Quote
Mallak Azaria wrote:Magna Mortem wrote:Except that the person doesn't need to shoot him. People are exploiting the fact that drones, which are set to aggressive, will engage them. The solution is to pay attention to what you're doing & not have them set to aggressive. There is no exploit happening here. This will be declared an exploit and fixed. If you think about it for two or three seconds, you'll understand why. Of course I can be wrong, but the train already started rolling. Imagine the armada that will use this to their advantage...
I won't touch this until I know it's NOT going to be declared an exploit. |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
7101
|
Posted - 2013.12.22 11:19:00 -
[47] - Quote
ElQuirko wrote:the idea that another capsuleer can force a limited engagement without going criminal themselves Nobody forced you to set drones to aggressive. Latest video - Pandemic Legion titan and supers killed |
Sentamon
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
1234
|
Posted - 2013.12.22 11:20:00 -
[48] - Quote
Magna Mortem wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:Magna Mortem wrote:Except that the person doesn't need to shoot him. People are exploiting the fact that drones, which are set to aggressive, will engage them. The solution is to pay attention to what you're doing & not have them set to aggressive. There is no exploit happening here. This will be declared an exploit and fixed. If you think about it for two or three seconds, you'll understand why. Of course I can be wrong, but the train already started rolling. Imagine the armada that will use this to their advantage...
I'm out looking for Orcas with MTU's and drones out myself :D ~ Professional Forum Alt -á~ |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3893
|
Posted - 2013.12.22 11:21:00 -
[49] - Quote
Magna Mortem wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:Magna Mortem wrote:Except that the person doesn't need to shoot him. People are exploiting the fact that drones, which are set to aggressive, will engage them. The solution is to pay attention to what you're doing & not have them set to aggressive. There is no exploit happening here. This will be declared an exploit and fixed. If you think about it for two or three seconds, you'll understand why. Of course I can be wrong, but the train already started rolling. Imagine the armada that will use this to their advantage...
It is more likely that nothing will change, including the average highsec players inability to adapt. This user won the forums on 18/09/2013, then lost on 18/12/2013. |
Magna Mortem
the noise a cow makes while mating
54
|
Posted - 2013.12.22 11:21:00 -
[50] - Quote
James Amril-Kesh wrote:ElQuirko wrote:the idea that another capsuleer can force a limited engagement without going criminal themselves Nobody forced you to set drones to aggressive. What's the default setting? |
|
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
7101
|
Posted - 2013.12.22 11:21:00 -
[51] - Quote
I know it seems otherwise when drones have been ridiculously broken for a long time but when something set to aggressive is actually aggressive it's probably working as intended. Latest video - Pandemic Legion titan and supers killed |
Lugalbandak
Anunnaku Warfare Corp.
282
|
Posted - 2013.12.22 11:22:00 -
[52] - Quote
Magna Mortem wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:Magna Mortem wrote:Except that the person doesn't need to shoot him. People are exploiting the fact that drones, which are set to aggressive, will engage them. The solution is to pay attention to what you're doing & not have them set to aggressive. There is no exploit happening here. This will be declared an exploit and fixed. If you think about it for two or three seconds, you'll understand why. Of course I can be wrong, but the train already started rolling. Imagine the armada that will use this to their advantage...
haha silly man , you ever do pvp in this game? The police horse is the only animal in the world that haz his male genitals on his back |
Magna Mortem
the noise a cow makes while mating
54
|
Posted - 2013.12.22 11:23:00 -
[53] - Quote
Lugalbandak wrote:Magna Mortem wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:Magna Mortem wrote:Except that the person doesn't need to shoot him. People are exploiting the fact that drones, which are set to aggressive, will engage them. The solution is to pay attention to what you're doing & not have them set to aggressive. There is no exploit happening here. This will be declared an exploit and fixed. If you think about it for two or three seconds, you'll understand why. Of course I can be wrong, but the train already started rolling. Imagine the armada that will use this to their advantage... haha silly man , you ever do pvp in this game? According to my killboard ... yes! :D |
Karrl Tian
Bourbon Bandits Anarchy.
282
|
Posted - 2013.12.22 11:23:00 -
[54] - Quote
Tippia wrote:What makes you think it's a bug?
In highsec, PvP outside of a duel is always a bug. Now I just hope I can get in on some of this before the Bear-tears reach the critical mass level for CCP to changes this.
Btw, just going to head things off and tell anyone who tells these people not to set their drones to aggressive is wasting their time. |
Lugalbandak
Anunnaku Warfare Corp.
282
|
Posted - 2013.12.22 11:25:00 -
[55] - Quote
Magna Mortem wrote:Lugalbandak wrote:Magna Mortem wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:Magna Mortem wrote:Except that the person doesn't need to shoot him. People are exploiting the fact that drones, which are set to aggressive, will engage them. The solution is to pay attention to what you're doing & not have them set to aggressive. There is no exploit happening here. This will be declared an exploit and fixed. If you think about it for two or three seconds, you'll understand why. Of course I can be wrong, but the train already started rolling. Imagine the armada that will use this to their advantage... haha silly man , you ever do pvp in this game? According to my killboard ... yes! :D
so if i killed a falcon with drones that are agrissve cause im perma jammed thats a expliot in your vision , got it sir! The police horse is the only animal in the world that haz his male genitals on his back |
Marlona Sky
D00M. Northern Coalition.
4572
|
Posted - 2013.12.22 11:27:00 -
[56] - Quote
Sup.
There is no bug. Most of the players who die to this are the ones who go into a mission, drop drones, MTU and then go AFK. There is 'forcing' someone to enter a limited engagement. Green safety setting means you will do anything to cause yourself to be suspect and it is doing that. Now if you decide to set your drones to 'shoot anything that will not get me Concorded or flagged as suspect'... Guess what? They won't do any of that. But they will go for valid targets. Someone flagged as suspect is a valid target for anyone. That is the entire pint of the crime watch system.
And to make your noodle cook a bit more, there is even players putting on tin badges, forming a gang with other random high sec players. Behold, PvP. And for the first time, high sec players are enforcing the law instead of Concord having to jump in.
That is simply amazing. . |
Lugalbandak
Anunnaku Warfare Corp.
282
|
Posted - 2013.12.22 11:28:00 -
[57] - Quote
Marlona Sky wrote:Sup.
There is no bug. Most of the players who die to this are the ones who go into a mission, drop drones, MTU and then go AFK. There is 'forcing' someone to enter a limited engagement. Green safety setting means you will do anything to cause yourself to be suspect and it is doing that. Now if you decide to set your drones to 'shoot anything that will not get me Concorded or flagged as suspect'... Guess what? They won't do any of that. But they will go for valid targets. Someone flagged as suspect is a valid target for anyone. That is the entire pint of the crime watch system.
And to make your noodle cook a bit more, there is even players putting on tin badges, forming a gang with other random high sec players. Behold, PvP. And for the first time, high sec players are enforcing the law instead of Concord having to jump in.
That is simply amazing.
yeah w8 your killboard (amezing btw lol) AFK seems to be the problem lol The police horse is the only animal in the world that haz his male genitals on his back |
Magna Mortem
the noise a cow makes while mating
54
|
Posted - 2013.12.22 11:29:00 -
[58] - Quote
Lugalbandak wrote:so if i killed a falcon with drones that are agrissve cause im perma jammed thats a expliot in your vision , got it sir! Which is a completely different case. Last I've checked, a falcon is not a structure and actually needs a pilot. You're too aggressive. It's a game. Go get some self respect. Bye. |
Lugalbandak
Anunnaku Warfare Corp.
282
|
Posted - 2013.12.22 11:29:00 -
[59] - Quote
Magna Mortem wrote:Lugalbandak wrote:so if i killed a falcon with drones that are agrissve cause im perma jammed thats a expliot in your vision , got it sir! Which is a completely different case. Last I've checked, a falcon is not a structure and actually needs a pilot. You're too aggressive. It's a game. Grow up. Bye.
im glad your not working at ccp , patch notes will be hoorible to read & remember The police horse is the only animal in the world that haz his male genitals on his back |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
7102
|
Posted - 2013.12.22 11:31:00 -
[60] - Quote
Magna Mortem wrote:Lugalbandak wrote:so if i killed a falcon with drones that are agrissve cause im perma jammed thats a expliot in your vision , got it sir! Which is a completely different case. Last I've checked, a falcon is not a structure and actually needs a pilot. You're too aggressive. It's a game. Go get some self respect. Bye. You sound like Infinity Ziona. Are you? Latest video - Pandemic Legion titan and supers killed |
|
|
|
|
Pages: 1 [2] 3 4 5 6 7 8 :: one page |
First page | Previous page | Next page | Last page |