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Curious Bear
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.12.21 01:43:00 -
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Would it be ok if I impersonate a GM outside eve to scam people?
ex: http://i.imgur.com/s1mAlXh.png
Y/N
Discuss. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
17843
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Posted - 2013.12.21 01:45:00 -
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GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5338
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Posted - 2013.12.21 01:46:00 -
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Let us ask an expert on discussing ccp's gm policies:
General Discussion There are no goons. The goons; 0.0 dream is over.
Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action. ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
Lady Areola Fappington
New Order Logistics CODE.
966
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Posted - 2013.12.21 01:48:00 -
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Nope. CCP can't control anything that happens off their servers.
The day I get banned for something said outside of CCP's direct control (forums, game, servers, etc) is the day I suddenly fell victim to a hacking attempt.
"Obviously, CCP, my twitter account was hacked, someone set me up. Prove otherwise." The risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP). |
Curious Bear
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.12.21 01:53:00 -
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Lady Areola Fappington wrote:Nope. CCP can't control anything "
So its ok to do?
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5338
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Posted - 2013.12.21 01:54:00 -
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Lady Areola Fappington wrote:Nope. CCP can't control anything that happens off their servers.
The day I get banned for something said outside of CCP's direct control (forums, game, servers, etc) is the day I suddenly fell victim to a hacking attempt.
"Obviously, CCP, my twitter account was hacked, someone set me up. Prove otherwise." There are some fleet chat logs.
:colbert: There are no goons. The goons; 0.0 dream is over.
Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action. ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
Eyelight ZeCyno
Confederation of Ninja Miners
5
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Posted - 2013.12.21 02:10:00 -
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you sure are mad about this, maybe you should concentrate on actually fighting, instead of crying to ccp to save your space. however, this is expected from the f1 buttan mashers that are PL/Pets.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
17843
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Posted - 2013.12.21 02:12:00 -
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Curious Bear wrote:So its ok to do? Why wouldn't it be?
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5338
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Posted - 2013.12.21 02:16:00 -
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Eyelight ZeCyno wrote:you sure are mad about this, maybe you should concentrate on actually fighting, instead of crying to ccp to save your space. however, this is expected from the f1 buttan mashers that are PL/Pets. Hey, hey HEY
They assign drones, it's much more skill-based There are no goons. The goons; 0.0 dream is over.
Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action. ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
Xavier Higdon
Wolfbane Hauler Inc
235
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Posted - 2013.12.21 02:21:00 -
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Goon button mashers calling out N3 button mashers.... Best thread ever. Wolfbane Hauler Inc Looking For Combat And Industrial Pilots |
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
7062
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Posted - 2013.12.21 02:27:00 -
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This is not in any way GM impersonation. Latest video - Pandemic Legion titan and supers killed |
Leigh Akiga
Trickle Down Economics
375
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Posted - 2013.12.21 02:29:00 -
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Curious Bear wrote:So its ok to do?
I think this will answer all your questions
http://i.imgur.com/9AlALX1.jpg |
Curious Bear
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.12.21 02:34:00 -
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Eyelight ZeCyno wrote: you sure are mad about this
My dear boy you are mistaken, im verry happy about this, though i suppose the fault is mine for not being more clear.
Work got slow towards the end of the day today so i was browsing the forums and stumbled upon the latest DBRB saga. The fact that so many bears bought into the false GM response has given me renewed interest in scamming. I inted to use it to my favor in the future and was just wondering if im going to get sqaushed by the ban hammer. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
17843
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Posted - 2013.12.21 02:39:00 -
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Curious Bear wrote:The fact that so many bears bought into the false GM response has given me renewed interest in scamming. I inted to use it to my favor in the future and was just wondering if im going to get sqaushed by the ban hammer. You will be if you're thinking about using it that wayGǪ GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |
Lady Areola Fappington
New Order Logistics CODE.
967
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Posted - 2013.12.21 02:40:00 -
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Curious Bear wrote:Eyelight ZeCyno wrote: you sure are mad about this
My dear boy you are mistaken, im verry happy about this, though i suppose the fault is mine for not being more clear. Work got slow towards the end of the day today so i was browsing the forums and stumbled upon the latest DBRB saga. The fact that so many bears bought into the false GM response has given me renewed interest in scamming. I inted to use it to my favor in the future and was just wondering if im going to get sqaushed by the ban hammer.
I expect the second you bring it into eve will be the second you get nailed for GM impersonation. The risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP). |
Curious Bear
Hedion University Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.12.21 02:47:00 -
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Lady Areola Fappington wrote: I expect the second you bring it into eve will be the second you get nailed for GM impersonation.
100% agreed. All i have to do is get them to look at a source outside eve (twitter for example, but not what im going to use) with an ingame name tied to it to make it seem legit and i should be in the clear? |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
17843
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Posted - 2013.12.21 02:50:00 -
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Curious Bear wrote:100% agreed. All i have to do is get them to look at a source outside eve (twitter for example, but not what im going to use) with an ingame name tied to it to make it seem legit and i should be in the clear? Only if what you do has nothing to do with the game, so unless you're going to pull a real-life confidence scam on them, you're not going to get anything. Of course, if you do that, you'll have real-world laws and sentencing to worry about. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |
Grimm Liberty
University of Caille Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.12.21 02:53:00 -
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Curious Bear wrote:Eyelight ZeCyno wrote: you sure are mad about this
My dear boy you are mistaken, im verry happy about this, though i suppose the fault is mine for not being more clear. Work got slow towards the end of the day today so i was browsing the forums and stumbled upon the latest DBRB saga. The fact that so many bears bought into the false GM response has given me renewed interest in scamming. I inted to use it to my favor in the future and was just wondering if im going to get sqaushed by the ban hammer.
um, I am new here, but isn't what you JUST SAID against the rules HERE? You talk about "INTENDING to impersonate a GM" while on their Forums? LOL
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Curious Bear
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.12.21 02:58:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Only if what you do has nothing to do with the game, so unless you're going to pull a real-life confidence scam on them, you're not going to get anything. Of course, if you do that, you'll have real-world laws and sentencing to worry about.
This is where i disagree.
The Goonswarm and various Goon figureheads have often stated that they rely on the 'meta-gaming' aspect of eve as much as any tangible mechanic and it is a gameplay element that even CCP recognizes.
So provided DBRB has been cleared of any wrongdoing on this sort of 'meta-gaming' scamming surely i can manipulate his method to affect other areas of gameplay and not be found at fault? |
Lady Areola Fappington
New Order Logistics CODE.
967
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Posted - 2013.12.21 03:00:00 -
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Curious Bear wrote:Lady Areola Fappington wrote: I expect the second you bring it into eve will be the second you get nailed for GM impersonation.
100% agreed. All i have to do is get them to look at a source outside eve (twitter for example, but not what im going to use) with an ingame name tied to it to make it seem legit and i should be in the clear?
No. The second you bring it in-game is the second you get nailed.
Since there seems to be some confusion, Boat didn't bring anything into EVE. He didn't use anything for any sort of in-game advantage. He never claimed to be a GM.
Your proposal brings the deception into EVE for gain, in some way. Hence why it fails.
Also, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but DBRB never really directly says "I am banned here's the note". Lots of implication and such, but never direct lines. The risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP). |
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Curious Bear
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.12.21 03:04:00 -
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Grimm Liberty wrote:Curious Bear wrote:Eyelight ZeCyno wrote: you sure are mad about this
My dear boy you are mistaken, im verry happy about this, though i suppose the fault is mine for not being more clear. Work got slow towards the end of the day today so i was browsing the forums and stumbled upon the latest DBRB saga. The fact that so many bears bought into the false GM response has given me renewed interest in scamming. I inted to use it to my favor in the future and was just wondering if im going to get sqaushed by the ban hammer. um, I am new here, but isn't what you JUST SAID against the rules HERE? You talk about "INTENDING to impersonate a GM" while on their Forums? LOL
TOS issues have been unclear in the past. Hence why im posting on the forums for feedback. Thanks for being helpful friend. |
Lady Areola Fappington
New Order Logistics CODE.
967
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Posted - 2013.12.21 03:05:00 -
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Lady Areola Fappington wrote:Curious Bear wrote:Lady Areola Fappington wrote: I expect the second you bring it into eve will be the second you get nailed for GM impersonation.
100% agreed. All i have to do is get them to look at a source outside eve (twitter for example, but not what im going to use) with an ingame name tied to it to make it seem legit and i should be in the clear? No. The second you bring it in-game is the second you get nailed. Since there seems to be some confusion, Boat didn't bring anything into EVE. He didn't use anything for any sort of in-game advantage. He never claimed to be a GM. Your proposal brings the deception into EVE for gain, in some way. Hence why it fails. In fact, here's a little analogy. I can sit back and say "I'm the President of the USA" all day long, with no impact. If I say "I'm the President, give me your money", I can be arrested (and locked in the loony bin). Also, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but DBRB never really directly says "I am banned here's the note". Lots of implication and such, but never direct lines.
And why that quoted instead of editing is beyond me. I'm having a DBRB moment. The risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP). |
Remiel Pollard
The 0th Fleet A Rather Intimidating Group of Individuals
2151
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Posted - 2013.12.21 03:08:00 -
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Curious Bear wrote:Eyelight ZeCyno wrote: you sure are mad about this
My dear boy you are mistaken, im verry happy about this, though i suppose the fault is mine for not being more clear. Work got slow towards the end of the day today so i was browsing the forums and stumbled upon the latest DBRB saga. The fact that so many bears bought into the false GM response has given me renewed interest in scamming. I inted to use it to my favor in the future and was just wondering if im going to get sqaushed by the ban hammer.
There is a very big difference between impersonating a GM, and writing a fake mail from one. What you have linked is not GM impersonation because no one is claiming to be a GM when they actually are not one. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |
Curious Bear
Hedion University Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.12.21 03:14:00 -
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Lady Areola Fappington wrote:Curious Bear wrote:Lady Areola Fappington wrote: I expect the second you bring it into eve will be the second you get nailed for GM impersonation.
100% agreed. All i have to do is get them to look at a source outside eve (twitter for example, but not what im going to use) with an ingame name tied to it to make it seem legit and i should be in the clear? No. The second you bring it in-game is the second you get nailed. Since there seems to be some confusion, Boat didn't bring anything into EVE. He didn't use anything for any sort of in-game advantage. He never claimed to be a GM. Your proposal brings the deception into EVE for gain, in some way. Hence why it fails. Also, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but DBRB never really directly says "I am banned here's the note". Lots of implication and such, but never direct lines.
Yes the point is to keep it 100% out of game with the exception being the end result-ISK/ships/mods whatever being traded/contracted to a scamming character of mine.
Think typical awoxing (joing the corp or whatever though in-game means, then once your on coms regularly enough to gain their trust point em to a website (non-ccp affiliated) thats has some sort of GM fabrication to get them to do what i want, like transfering me isk/ships/roles whatever.
That way nothing pointing to the fabricated GM info touched eve and all CCP sees is a transfer of goods/isk/ships whatever with no way to verify anything else.
Seems like kinda standard meta-gaming to me. Influence peoples thoughts through a forum not associated with eve and get them to do what you want. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
17843
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Posted - 2013.12.21 03:16:00 -
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Curious Bear wrote: This is where i disagree.
No, this is where you get nailed for being really silly and obtuse and not understanding the difference between in-game and out-of-game.
Quote: The Goonswarm and various Goon figureheads have often stated that they rely on the 'meta-gaming' aspect of eve as much as any tangible mechanic and it is a gameplay element that even CCP recognizes.
So provided DBRB has been cleared of any wrongdoing on this sort of 'meta-gaming' scamming surely i can manipulate his method to affect other areas of gameplay and not be found at fault? GǪexcept that meta-gaming still has to abide by the EULA since it has in-game consequences. See that "game" part in "meta-game"? If you try to get an advantage by breaking e game rules, CCP will slap you.
What DBRB did had nothing with the in-game GÇö he just trolled reddit and twitter. Reddit and twitter not subject to CCP's rule or EULA and have no connection with the game; what you're thinking of is and does.
Quote: Yes the point is to keep it 100% out of game with the exception being the end result-ISK/ships/mods whatever being traded/contracted to a scamming character of mine. That means it's in-game, so you're not allowed to imspersonateGǪ well, anyone, really, but least of all any kind of game functionary such as a GM. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |
stoicfaux
3469
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Posted - 2013.12.21 03:22:00 -
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If your out-of-game antics cause trouble for CCP, then CCP will make an in-game decision about you. Also, never underestimate the (sadistic) creativity of a bored legal department.
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Lady Areola Fappington
New Order Logistics CODE.
967
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Posted - 2013.12.21 03:22:00 -
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Curious Bear wrote:
Yes the point is to keep it 100% out of game with the exception being the end result-ISK/ships/mods whatever being traded/contracted to a scamming character of mine.
Think typical awoxing (joing the corp or whatever though in-game means, then once your on coms regularly enough to gain their trust point em to a website (non-ccp affiliated) thats has some sort of GM fabrication to get them to do what i want, like transfering me isk/ships/roles whatever.
That way nothing pointing to the fabricated GM info touched eve and all CCP sees is a transfer of goods/isk/ships whatever with no way to verify anything else.
Seems like kinda standard meta-gaming to me. Influence peoples thoughts through a forum not associated with eve and get them to do what you want.
The failure in your devious plot is bolded. You've used "pretending to be a GM" to acquire stuff in-game.
Plus, there's a pretty huge diff between saying "I am a GM" and "Look at this ban E-mail, which I have manipulated you into thinking regards me".
Again, I may be wrong, but didn't DBRB say the actual ban email was a real one? If so, there's no "impersonating a GM", you just got fooled.
Don't feel bad man, DBRB is a pro. One time, he fooled me into thinking a titan was an IHUB. The risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP). |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
7064
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Posted - 2013.12.21 03:37:00 -
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What video is that from? I remember seeing it once a while ago. Latest video - Pandemic Legion titan and supers killed |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5338
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Posted - 2013.12.21 03:38:00 -
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Wow, some people are really... er...
I will link this thread in bomber fleet when boat next FCs us (and the dominixes and the dreads) There are no goons. The goons; 0.0 dream is over.
Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action. ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
Ashlar Maidstone
Multiplex Gaming Li3 Federation
31
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Posted - 2013.12.21 03:39:00 -
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If you think by impersonating a GM outside of Eve is ok, let me say this was brought up not long ago about using alts as well. That anytime you impersonate somebody real or virtual, depending on the laws of where you are, you CAN be found and brought before the courts with charges out the wazoo.
My advice to you is don't do it unless you want to rot away in prison for doing something like this. like this |
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Curious Bear
Hedion University Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.12.21 03:42:00 -
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Tippia wrote: Reddit and twitter not subject to CCP's rule or EULA
This is exactly the point. They can't prove or disprove anything that happened there was actually carried out by the eve player in question: DBRB.
So say you get some rookie CEO of a highsec 'Industry focused corp' with more assets than common sense to let you join his corp. A week goes by and you help teach him the ways of running a corp.
You tell him that as a member of his corp a CCP GM sent you an email claiming the corp is doing something in violation of TOS. Now youve been a very helpful advisor to this rookie CEO so he trusts you but just wants to see the email before he gives you the roles you requested to fix the 'TOS violation'. So you fabricate an email and dump it to pastebin-not wanting to give out the password to your email.
Now seeing is believing and he has faith in you to help him get his corp 100% legit again. So he gives you the roles, you rob him blind, and he is understandably upset. Now you take down the pastebin right after your done stealing everything.
He goes to CCP with his story and 0 proof. You tell CCP you just smooth talked your way into his good graces and robbed him first chance you got and everything else he says is a lie. This is EVE mind you and upset people say crazy things, and with no way to verify that you impersonated a GM with a fake email they let you go.
Now tell me how that is going to be me banned or is in anyway different from CCP's point of view as far as being able to act on the info given. |
Remiel Pollard
The 0th Fleet A Rather Intimidating Group of Individuals
2151
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Posted - 2013.12.21 03:52:00 -
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Ashlar Maidstone wrote:If you think by impersonating a GM outside of Eve is ok, let me say this was brought up not long ago about using alts as well. That anytime you impersonate somebody real or virtual, depending on the laws of where you are, you CAN be found and brought before the courts with charges out the wazoo.
My advice to you is don't do it unless you want to rot away in prison for doing something like this. like this
I don't know where you got that you can get jail time from this, regardless of territorial laws. I'd really love to see the US try to expedite an Australian citizen for impersonating Mickey Mouse. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
17843
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Posted - 2013.12.21 03:54:00 -
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Curious Bear wrote: This is exactly the point. They can't prove or disprove anything that happened there was actually carried out by the eve player in question: DBRB.
They can when the scam victim reports you to the GMs for impersonating a GM for in-game gain, at which point it no longer matters where you did it.
Quote: He goes to CCP with his story and 0 proof. GǪaside from all the stuff you used to scam him, which they will nail you for since what you're doing is against the EULA and they don't mid around with this stuff. Thus, they'lll belive him far mire than you.
Now, since you're going to be so obtuse about this and are determined to get yourself banned, can I have your stuff. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
7065
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Posted - 2013.12.21 03:55:00 -
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Ashlar Maidstone wrote:If you think by impersonating a GM outside of Eve is ok, let me say this was brought up not long ago about using alts as well. That anytime you impersonate somebody real or virtual, depending on the laws of where you are, you CAN be found and brought before the courts with charges out the wazoo.
My advice to you is don't do it unless you want to rot away in prison for doing something like this. like this Why are we blue? I think someone made a mistake somewhere. Latest video - Pandemic Legion titan and supers killed |
Curious Bear
Hedion University Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.12.21 04:05:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Curious Bear wrote: This is exactly the point. They can't prove or disprove anything that happened there was actually carried out by the eve player in question: DBRB.
They can when the scam victim reports you to the GMs for impersonating a GM for in-game gain, at which point it no longer matters where you did it. Quote: He goes to CCP with his story and 0 proof. GǪaside from all the stuff you used to scam him, which they will nail you for since what you're doing is against the EULA and they don't mid around with this stuff. Thus, they'lll belive him far more than you. If you're really, really lucky, they'll just reverse the whole thing so you end up with nothing. Now, since you're going to be so obtuse about this and are determined to get yourself banned, can I have your stuff.
Everything i used to scam him would be over mumble or pastebin. Would join the corp with an app and then just help him and other corp mates in mumble to gain their trust. Fake gm email is on pastebin and then removed. What proof can he provide CCP?
So basically what your saying is since CCP will blindly believe what the victim says (that i impersonated a GM/Faked GM corespondence with ZERO supporting evidence) and ban me.
I guess i dont have to worry about locking anything down in my next corp b/c next time someone awoxes the corp i can just say "UM HE TOLD ME HE WAS A GM HURR" and be in the clear.
And yes you can have my draek. |
Ricard Chastot
Snake Eye Production
20
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Posted - 2013.12.21 04:06:00 -
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Curious Bear wrote:He goes to CCP with his story and 0 proof. You tell CCP you just smooth talked your way into his good graces and robbed him first chance you got and everything else he says is a lie. This is EVE mind you and upset people say crazy things, and with no way to verify that you impersonated a GM with a fake email they let you go.
If you have to lie to CCP in order for your plan to work, then it's not within the rules. You're no longer asking if it is or even arguing that is it. Instead you're discussing (on their own forums) how to get around the rules and trick CCP.
Oh noes I'm doing it rong. |
stoicfaux
3469
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Posted - 2013.12.21 04:15:00 -
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Curious Bear wrote:Tippia wrote: Reddit and twitter not subject to CCP's rule or EULA
This is exactly the point. They can't prove or disprove anything that happened there was actually carried out by the eve player in question: DBRB. But CCP doesn't have to prove anything. They can ban you without reason.
Quote:Now tell me how that is going to be me banned or is in anyway different from CCP's point of view as far as being able to act on the info given. I agree that CCP would be loathe to ban you at first. However, CCP isn't stupid, and if they notice a trend, they'll act on it before it damages their reputation/income/business.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
17843
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Posted - 2013.12.21 04:19:00 -
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Curious Bear wrote: Everything i used to scam him would be over mumble or pastebin.
GǪthereby providing the evidence that you're breaking the EULA.
And per above, you are fully aware that your entire strategy is against the rules and you have communicated this to the world. Guess what will happen when you break those rules and start lying to the GMs to try to make up excusesGǪ GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |
Curious Bear
Hedion University Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.12.21 04:27:00 -
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This is entriely hypothetical. CCP can see i have two acounts with one character each (minus this alt which is 1 day old) and have been in one corp since i started. Im not going to do anything ive described above. I don't think anyone is stupid enough to make a post like this then turn around and do what they described.
The point is i don't think CCP takes GM impersonation very seriously. Thanks all for making this a little more visible. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
17843
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Posted - 2013.12.21 04:29:00 -
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Curious Bear wrote:The point is i don't think CCP takes GM impersonation very seriously. Thanks all for making this a little more visible. What makes you think that? Last time it was tried, people got slapped hard. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
7068
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Posted - 2013.12.21 04:54:00 -
[41] - Quote
Tippia wrote:Curious Bear wrote:The point is i don't think CCP takes GM impersonation very seriously. Thanks all for making this a little more visible. What makes you think that? Last time it was tried, people got slapped hard. You realize this thread has nothing to do with using GM impersonation to scam, and everything about an obfuscated personal crusade against a player because they're upset that he wasn't banned for something he didn't do. Latest video - Pandemic Legion titan and supers killed |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5338
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Posted - 2013.12.21 06:42:00 -
[42] - Quote
James Amril-Kesh wrote:Tippia wrote:Curious Bear wrote:The point is i don't think CCP takes GM impersonation very seriously. Thanks all for making this a little more visible. What makes you think that? Last time it was tried, people got slapped hard. You realize this thread has nothing to do with using GM impersonation to scam, and everything about an obfuscated personal crusade against a player because they're upset that he wasn't banned for something he didn't do. A Large Scarlet Vessel There are no goons. The goons; 0.0 dream is over.
Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action. ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1798
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Posted - 2013.12.21 08:22:00 -
[43] - Quote
I doubt CCP really cares about somebody writing up fake GM correspondence to troll reddit/twitter but you'll undoubtedly be slapped hard if you write up fake GM correspondence to add legitimacy to a scam. Idiots are jumping on this "ban dbrb for writing up GM correspondence and because grrgoons" train and it's going to go nowhere. npc alts have no opinions worth consideration |
Kate stark
1007
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Posted - 2013.12.21 09:24:00 -
[44] - Quote
wait, who did dbrb scam? Yay, this account hasn't had its signature banned. or its account, if you're reading this. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5340
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Posted - 2013.12.21 09:45:00 -
[45] - Quote
Kate stark wrote:wait, who did dbrb scam? Reddit, maybe en24
They were delighted at his banning. These "reverse tears" were harvested... There are no goons. The goons; 0.0 dream is over.
Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action. ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
7069
|
Posted - 2013.12.21 09:49:00 -
[46] - Quote
Alavaria Fera wrote:A Large Scarlet Vessel The Giant Crimson Watercraft?
Reddit was trolled probably before DBRB was aware of all the pubbie outrage. Latest video - Pandemic Legion titan and supers killed |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5340
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Posted - 2013.12.21 09:59:00 -
[47] - Quote
James Amril-Kesh wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:A Large Scarlet Vessel The Giant Crimson Watercraft? Reddit was trolled probably before DBRB was aware of all the pubbie outrage. He said that some N3 guy posted the incriminating fleet chat logs, so yeah... There are no goons. The goons; 0.0 dream is over.
Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action. ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
Vera Algaert
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1155
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Posted - 2013.12.21 11:05:00 -
[48] - Quote
was going to link CCP OhWell's twitter to end this silly discussion but he added a disclaimer |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
17845
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Posted - 2013.12.21 14:37:00 -
[49] - Quote
James Amril-Kesh wrote:You realize this thread has nothing to do with using GM impersonation to scam, and everything about an obfuscated personal crusade against a player because they're upset that he wasn't banned for something he didn't do. Of course. I'm just interested in seeing in what kind of logic pretzel the OP is trying to bake to make that point. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |
Implying Implications
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
406
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Posted - 2013.12.21 14:44:00 -
[50] - Quote
Wow these guys are desperate. Signed, Implying |
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ElQuirko
Black Dragon Fighting Society The Devil's Tattoo
2793
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Posted - 2013.12.21 15:48:00 -
[51] - Quote
Xavier Higdon wrote:Goon button mashers calling out N3 button mashers.... Best thread ever. GETCHER POPCORN 'ERE! TUPPENCE A BUCKET! Dodixie > Hek |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5341
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Posted - 2013.12.21 20:24:00 -
[52] - Quote
Tippia wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:You realize this thread has nothing to do with using GM impersonation to scam, and everything about an obfuscated personal crusade against a player because they're upset that he wasn't banned for something he didn't do. Of course. I'm just interested in seeing in what kind of logic pretzel the OP is trying to bake to make that point.
Implying Implications wrote:Wow these guys are desperate. Be careful, pretzels can be dangerous There are no goons. The goons; 0.0 dream is over.
Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action. ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
Jove Death
The Jovian Navy
316
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Posted - 2013.12.21 20:39:00 -
[53] - Quote
User attempts to crash node by advising chars to log off and on plus drop drones.
Then you get GM Nova.
\o/ your fooked! Quoting "you will die" in EvE is fail Chars dont die in EvE. Unless you have a heart attack eek
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
7084
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Posted - 2013.12.21 21:37:00 -
[54] - Quote
Jove Death wrote:User attempts to crash node by advising chars to log off and on plus drop drones.
Then you get GM Nova.
\o/ your fooked! We don't carry curators or wardens. Ever. We also don't combine Domi and dread fleets. We also don't have an Omega fit yet. Those logs are doctored. Latest video - Pandemic Legion titan and supers killed |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5342
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Posted - 2013.12.21 21:47:00 -
[55] - Quote
James Amril-Kesh wrote:Jove Death wrote:User attempts to crash node by advising chars to log off and on plus drop drones.
Then you get GM Nova.
\o/ your fooked! We don't carry curators or wardens. Ever. We also don't combine Domi and dread fleets. We also don't have an Omega fit yet. Those logs are doctored. Are people still falling for those stupid logs There are no goons. The goons; 0.0 dream is over.
Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action. ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
Lady Areola Fappington
New Order Logistics CODE.
975
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Posted - 2013.12.21 21:53:00 -
[56] - Quote
Alavaria Fera wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Jove Death wrote:User attempts to crash node by advising chars to log off and on plus drop drones.
Then you get GM Nova.
\o/ your fooked! We don't carry curators or wardens. Ever. We also don't combine Domi and dread fleets. We also don't have an Omega fit yet. Those logs are doctored. Are people still falling for those stupid logs
Sadly, yeah. I was discussing EVE elsewhere, and some pubbie vomited up about how "a key leader in Goonswarm" had been "permabanned, and possibly in legal trouble". the DBRB fake Email was then shown.
The risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP). |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
7084
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Posted - 2013.12.21 21:54:00 -
[57] - Quote
Hahahaha legal trouble. Oh god. Latest video - Pandemic Legion titan and supers killed |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5342
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Posted - 2013.12.21 22:06:00 -
[58] - Quote
Lady Areola Fappington wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Jove Death wrote:User attempts to crash node by advising chars to log off and on plus drop drones.
Then you get GM Nova.
\o/ your fooked! We don't carry curators or wardens. Ever. We also don't combine Domi and dread fleets. We also don't have an Omega fit yet. Those logs are doctored. Are people still falling for those stupid logs Sadly, yeah. I was discussing EVE elsewhere, and some pubbie vomited up about how "a key leader in Goonswarm" had been "permabanned, and possibly in legal trouble". the DBRB fake Email was then shown. How is boat a key leader... There are no goons. The goons; 0.0 dream is over.
Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action. ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
Eram Fidard
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
502
|
Posted - 2013.12.21 22:07:00 -
[59] - Quote
aaaaaaaaaaaaahahahhaahahhahahaahaaa
No. Poster is not to be held responsible for damages to keyboards and/or noses caused by hot beverages. |
Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1798
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Posted - 2013.12.21 22:21:00 -
[60] - Quote
dbrb, a key leader in goonswarm
cripes npc alts have no opinions worth consideration |
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5343
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Posted - 2013.12.21 22:34:00 -
[61] - Quote
Richard Desturned wrote:dbrb, a key leader in goonswarm
cripes He's gaining power in goons after the egg welp incident There are no goons. The goons; 0.0 dream is over.
Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action. ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
17869
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Posted - 2013.12.21 23:40:00 -
[62] - Quote
Alavaria Fera wrote:How is boat a key leader... I'm sure his keys follow him around rather than the other way around.
GǪbut I guess I'm working under the assumption that he's entrusted with a set of keys, which might be silly of me. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5343
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Posted - 2013.12.21 23:42:00 -
[63] - Quote
Tippia wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:How is boat a key leader... I'm sure his keys follow him around rather than the other way around. GǪbut I guess I'm working under the assumption that he's entrusted with a set of keys, which might be silly of me. He's allowed to FC our bombers, thankfully he hasn't bombed blues yet... There are no goons. The goons; 0.0 dream is over.
Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action. ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
Thern alpha
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
17
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Posted - 2013.12.21 23:44:00 -
[64] - Quote
If you keep it out of game its fine, the second you bring it in game you are gonna get banned or a slap on the wrist for it. |
Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld White Mountain Coalition
723
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Posted - 2013.12.22 00:01:00 -
[65] - Quote
Obvious meta gaming by causing a node crash is obviously going to be unacceptable to CCP regardless of how illustrious the person is that caused the crash. Plus it's an unsporting thing to do when most other players take the game world and it's integrity really seriously. Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction... |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
7087
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Posted - 2013.12.22 00:09:00 -
[66] - Quote
Alavaria Fera wrote:Tippia wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:How is boat a key leader... I'm sure his keys follow him around rather than the other way around. GǪbut I guess I'm working under the assumption that he's entrusted with a set of keys, which might be silly of me. He's allowed to FC our bombers, thankfully he hasn't bombed blues yet... Odell has, but he doesn't FC anything but ISBoxer. Latest video - Pandemic Legion titan and supers killed |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
7087
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Posted - 2013.12.22 00:10:00 -
[67] - Quote
Little Dragon Khamez wrote:Obvious meta gaming by causing a node crash is obviously going to be unacceptable to CCP regardless of how illustrious the person is that caused the crash. Plus it's an unsporting thing to do when most other players take the game world and it's integrity really seriously. Yeah. I'm sure glad he was proportionally punished according to the crimes he committed. Latest video - Pandemic Legion titan and supers killed |
Eram Fidard
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
503
|
Posted - 2013.12.22 00:19:00 -
[68] - Quote
Little Dragon Khamez wrote:Obvious meta gaming by causing a node crash is obviously going to be unacceptable to CCP regardless of how illustrious the person is that caused the crash. Plus it's an unsporting thing to do when most other players take the game world and it's integrity really seriously.
*slaps knee with great vigour* Poster is not to be held responsible for damages to keyboards and/or noses caused by hot beverages. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5343
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Posted - 2013.12.22 00:59:00 -
[69] - Quote
James Amril-Kesh wrote:Little Dragon Khamez wrote:Obvious meta gaming by causing a node crash is obviously going to be unacceptable to CCP regardless of how illustrious the person is that caused the crash. Plus it's an unsporting thing to do when most other players take the game world and it's integrity really seriously. Yeah. I'm sure glad he was proportionally punished according to the crimes he committed. Ehhhhhhh
CCP trolled boat? There are no goons. The goons; 0.0 dream is over.
Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action. ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
Lady Areola Fappington
New Order Logistics CODE.
977
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Posted - 2013.12.22 02:38:00 -
[70] - Quote
Alavaria Fera wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Little Dragon Khamez wrote:Obvious meta gaming by causing a node crash is obviously going to be unacceptable to CCP regardless of how illustrious the person is that caused the crash. Plus it's an unsporting thing to do when most other players take the game world and it's integrity really seriously. Yeah. I'm sure glad he was proportionally punished according to the crimes he committed. Ehhhhhhh CCP trolled boat?
CCP, to Boat: "Normally, we'd permaban in these circumstances, but, eh...we all know you got your FC keys taken away. No bans needed."
Note, I'm not impersonating a dev. The risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP). |
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Joan Greywind
No Swag Initiative
219
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Posted - 2013.12.22 03:24:00 -
[71] - Quote
How the post got read in my mind:
I felt vindicated when the big bad goon got banned, as my ethical view of the world finally proved I'm right, because goons = evil. I was so sure since I read it on rumor mongering sites such as Everumors24 and reddit. But even after I was trolled hard I still feel I have to be right, because ethics, and I'm now pushing a useless idea to get the big bad goon banned, but framed it in such a way that I don't sound butthurt, but at the end that is what it sounded like.
Maybe it's just me, and yes maybe that post was a real question, but most similar posts aren't, and as any average human being I like to generalize. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5343
|
Posted - 2013.12.22 03:44:00 -
[72] - Quote
Lady Areola Fappington wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Little Dragon Khamez wrote:Obvious meta gaming by causing a node crash is obviously going to be unacceptable to CCP regardless of how illustrious the person is that caused the crash. Plus it's an unsporting thing to do when most other players take the game world and it's integrity really seriously. Yeah. I'm sure glad he was proportionally punished according to the crimes he committed. Ehhhhhhh CCP trolled boat? CCP, to Boat: "Normally, we'd permaban in these circumstances, but, eh...we all know you got your FC keys taken away. No bans needed." Note, I'm not impersonating a dev. So you're saying they humiliated boat
That wouldn't be very effective... There are no goons. The goons; 0.0 dream is over.
Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action. ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
Katran Luftschreck
Stillwater Corporation
1696
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Posted - 2013.12.22 04:19:00 -
[73] - Quote
What if I make an alt named "CCP Not a GM" ? Nullsec in a Nutshell: http://nedroid.com/comics/2006-08-24-2155-arrrdino.gif |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
17882
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Posted - 2013.12.22 05:20:00 -
[74] - Quote
Katran Luftschreck wrote:What if I make an alt named "CCP Not a GM" ? Then you'll notice that they're both mentioned in the same rule. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |
Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
2829
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Posted - 2013.12.22 07:55:00 -
[75] - Quote
I learned the hard way impersonation scams are a no-go.
Tip from me to you.
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Ravan Hekki
Blue-Fire
46
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Posted - 2013.12.22 08:49:00 -
[76] - Quote
This is a thing people care about? Stupid thing to do though.....
Don't ban him 'OMG CCP LIKE GOONS MOST WAHHHHHHH'
Ban him 'OMG CCP IS PLAYING FAVORITES AND HATE US THE MOST WAHHHHHH'
Only solution 'We at CCP think your all a bunch of D****, kindly shut the f*** up and stop acting like self entitled children'
There I have solved your problem CCP can I haz a Ishi Scorpie now? |
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ISD Tyrozan
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
253
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Posted - 2013.12.23 01:51:00 -
[77] - Quote
Topic involving impersonation of GM. Topic locked. ISD Tyrozan Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department @ISDTyrozan | @ISD_CCL |
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