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Praethis Starloe
Shockwave Innovations Surely You're Joking
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Posted - 2013.12.06 20:15:00 -
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I'll keep this relatively short and sweet. We can bribe Concord to kill nubs in Hi-sec, this is awesome!
But lets take it a step further.....What if we could bribe concord to allow us to attack on low-sec gates without Gate gun aggro?
In my dream: The CEO of a corporation could buy a contract allowing us to attack on gates for say a week at a set price.
We could put full use of the Interceptor frigates in low-sec if this were possible. Hell Frigate pvp could finally exist on gates in low-sec :D
I am being EXTREMELY selfish with this idea....i love frigates....so what?
But honestly...in comparison to bribing concord in hi-sec for full out wars....why should this topic be overlooked?
Have at me dogs of the forums.
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Frostys Virpio
Lame Corp Name
785
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Posted - 2013.12.06 20:16:00 -
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Praethis Starloe wrote:I'll keep this relatively short and sweet. We can bribe Concord to kill nubs in Hi-sec, this is awesome!
But lets take it a step further.....What if we could bribe concord to allow us to attack on low-sec gates without Gate gun aggro?
In my dream: The CEO of a corporation could buy a contract allowing us to attack on gates for say a week at a set price.
We could put full use of the Interceptor frigates in low-sec if this were possible. Hell Frigate pvp could finally exist on gates in low-sec :D
I am being EXTREMELY selfish with this idea....i love frigates....so what?
But honestly...in comparison to bribing concord in hi-sec for full out wars....why should this topic be overlooked?
Have at me dogs of the forums.
Attacking war targets in low sec trigger gate guns? |
Praethis Starloe
Shockwave Innovations Surely You're Joking
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Posted - 2013.12.06 20:35:00 -
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I forgot a major keyword in there, i edited the first post from
"But lets take it a step further.....What if we could bribe concord to allow us to attack on low-sec gates without Gate gun aggro? "
to
"But lets take it a step further.....What if we could bribe concord to allow us to attack anyone on low-sec gates without Gate gun aggro? "
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Kahega Amielden
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
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Posted - 2013.12.06 20:36:00 -
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Because it would make gate camps substantially more powerful and they really don't need to be. |
Notorious Fellon
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.12.06 20:38:00 -
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So you want the ability to gate camp newbies flying into Old Man Star on their first lvl 2 hauling mission *without risk*?
Maybe you should seek pvp against those who have high slots with hard points. Then maybe there would at least be the potential for them to shoot back.
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Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
2341
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Posted - 2013.12.06 20:39:00 -
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Also, allow us to bribe CONCORD to pop anyone in Highsec with negative security status, provided we have a positive one. The greater the difference in security status, the cheaper it gets. An extra fee includes capsules and not just ships. Let's have CONCORD fight our wars against the negative security gankbears! Sovereignty and Population New Mining Mechanics |
Remiel Pollard
Shockwave Innovations Surely You're Joking
2082
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Posted - 2013.12.06 20:39:00 -
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I got a better idea
Nerf low-sec gate gates.
And while we're at it, nerf high sec :D
Also...
Posting in a stealth nerf high sec thread. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |
Remiel Pollard
Shockwave Innovations Surely You're Joking
2082
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Posted - 2013.12.06 20:45:00 -
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Notorious Fellon wrote:So you want the ability to gate camp newbies flying into Old Man Star on their first lvl 2 hauling mission *without risk*?
Maybe you should seek pvp against those who have high slots with hard points. Then maybe there would at least be the potential for them to shoot back.
You haven't looked at Praethis' killboard lately have you... You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |
Praethis Starloe
Shockwave Innovations Surely You're Joking
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Posted - 2013.12.06 20:45:00 -
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Notorious felon - check my kills, i don't camp OMS or anything. I'd just like to see frigates stand a chance on attacking anything in low-sec without being instapopped by the overpowered guns.
Kahega Amielden- mmm I can sort of agree with you, I just hate seeing frigate pvp be restricted to Hi-sec/null-sec :/ it's pretty hard to get fun frigate pvp.
Abrazzar- you shouldn't expect NPC death-douken bots to fight for you. In your defense you could say "then you shouldn't expect NPC death-douken bots to let you aggress on gates"
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Ambassador Crane
Hellhound Productions
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Posted - 2013.12.06 21:29:00 -
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The name of your current alliance says it all. |
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Ezekiel Ironstone
FISE Squad
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Posted - 2013.12.06 21:30:00 -
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Or you could sit tight and train Patience to V.
In the interview linked recently on facebook, CCP Fozzie answered with an affirmative when asked if they intend to turn all of New Eden into null sec. |
Aih-Li Tahn
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.12.06 21:32:00 -
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i mite as well undock my hauler and self destruct, yes? |
Remiel Pollard
Shockwave Innovations Surely You're Joking
2082
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Posted - 2013.12.06 22:03:00 -
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Ezekiel Ironstone wrote:Or you could sit tight and train Patience to V.
In the interview linked recently on facebook, CCP Fozzie answered with an affirmative when asked if they intend to turn all of New Eden into null sec.
Oh, those were his words? Citation needed please, I want to see what he actually said, not how you interpret it. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |
Dont UseYourAlt OnTheForums
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
4
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Posted - 2013.12.06 22:07:00 -
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Sentry guns dont belong to concord.
What is it with concord again you were saying??
Thought so.. |
Karrl Tian
Bourbon Bandits Anarchy.
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Posted - 2013.12.06 22:42:00 -
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Kahega Amielden wrote:Because it would make gate camps substantially more powerful and they really don't need to be.
Actually, lack of sentry guns would probably do the opposite. Gate camps would be more common, sure, but they'd be less powerful and they could be done with cheaper ships and lower SP characters. Sebos still work and small ships can still decloak people so sentry guns don't actually do much beyond dictating the ships you use in your camp.
As it stands now, you need at least 1600mm plated cruisers to hold stuff down on gate and kill it, so most camps you'll run into in low are made up of very powerful ships like BCs, BS's and T3s rather than just hodge-podge groups of frigs and dessies that are cheap and easily accessible to beginning pvp'ers, hence their popularity in faction warfare.
Best thing CCP did for lowsec imo was making gate guns deaggress when you warp off, allowing the use of sub-BC ships in camps with a reasonable chance of surviving if they moved quick enough, even letting them be able to aggress more than once every 15 minutes. |
Praethis Starloe
Shockwave Innovations Surely You're Joking
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Posted - 2013.12.06 22:56:00 -
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Ambassador Crane- Rather than focusing on what alliance i am in, try finding a better retort to my post than my origins. This is why you're bad at Eve.
Karrl Tian- I've had problems with that mechanic (warping off after aggressing and warping back to lose gate gun aggro) I was shooting an anathema on gate . After killing it in the -10 seconds allowed by the god-feared gate guns i warped off, came back, and the gate guns reaggressed me :C.....so yea...still a bit buggy.
Dont UseYourAlt OnTheForums- I apologize if you expected me to give a damn about (who controls the gate guns) i honestly don't care, bribes can be offered to WHOEVER the **** owns it. This is a simple idea you lore-humping nerd.
Aih-Li Tahn- There is a very very very very very annoying technique used by haulers these days. Fit a prototype cloak, mwd, burst your mwd while aligning to destination, cloak, at the precipice of your mwd cycle decloak and instawarp.....i hate this technique as they dodge me all the time...but training yields positive results :)
IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WHO WANTS A PIECE OF MY MIND?! |
The Spod
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.12.06 22:56:00 -
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Meh.
I was hoping this would be a post about bribing CONCORDOKKEN on people, priced by security status and ship of the mark. Would be pretty cool and a really nice ISK&material sink. |
Xavier Higdon
Wolfbane Hauler Inc
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Posted - 2013.12.06 23:03:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:Ezekiel Ironstone wrote:Or you could sit tight and train Patience to V.
In the interview linked recently on facebook, CCP Fozzie answered with an affirmative when asked if they intend to turn all of New Eden into null sec. Oh, those were his words? Citation needed please, I want to see what he actually said, not how you interpret it.
Nope, his words were basically that high sec will stay high sec while low sec and null sec remain low sec and null sec respectfully. But let Ezekiel dream, after all he just wants to feel powerful as he mows down rookie ships and he just can't do that as things stand today. Wolfbane Hauler Inc Looking For Combat And Industrial Pilots |
Praethis Starloe
Shockwave Innovations Surely You're Joking
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Posted - 2013.12.06 23:03:00 -
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For the love of god.....learn to PVP so you don't have to keep dreaming about killing people in game with the NPC's super powers.
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Lors Dornick
Kallisti Industries Solar Assault Fleet
798
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Posted - 2013.12.06 23:11:00 -
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Praethis Starloe wrote:I'll keep this relatively short and sweet. We can bribe Concord to kill nubs in Hi-sec, this is awesome!
But lets take it a step further.....What if we could bribe concord to allow us to attack anyone on low-sec gates without Gate gun aggro?
F&I, two floors down.
They might be interested.
CCP Eterne: Silly player, ALL devs are evil. CCP Fozzie: When Veritas describes a programming challenge as "very hard" I tend to believe him.
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Remiel Pollard
Shockwave Innovations Surely You're Joking
2085
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Posted - 2013.12.06 23:22:00 -
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Lors Dornick wrote:Praethis Starloe wrote:I'll keep this relatively short and sweet. We can bribe Concord to kill nubs in Hi-sec, this is awesome!
But lets take it a step further.....What if we could bribe concord to allow us to attack anyone on low-sec gates without Gate gun aggro?
F&I, two floors down. They might be interested.
Yes, but...
Nerf gate guns. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |
Mr Pragmatic
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Posted - 2013.12.07 00:02:00 -
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Drinking and posting is bad, mkay? Super cali hella yolo swaga dopeness. -á-Yoloswaggins, in the fellowship of the bling. |
Frostys Virpio
Lame Corp Name
785
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Posted - 2013.12.07 00:22:00 -
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Karrl Tian wrote:Kahega Amielden wrote:Because it would make gate camps substantially more powerful and they really don't need to be. Actually, lack of sentry guns would probably do the opposite. Gate camps would be more common, sure, but they'd be less powerful and they could be done with cheaper ships and lower SP characters. Sebos still work and small ships can still decloak people so sentry guns don't actually do much beyond dictating the ships you use in your camp. As it stands now, you need at least high-buffed cruisers to hold stuff down on gate and kill it, so most camps you'll run into in low are made up of very powerful ships like BCs, BS's and T3s rather than just hodge-podge groups of frigs and dessies that are cheap and easily accessible to beginning pvp'ers, hence their popularity in faction warfare. Best thing CCP did for lowsec imo was making gate guns deaggress when you warp off, allowing the use of sub-BC ships in camps with a reasonable chance of surviving if they moved quick enough, even letting them be able to aggress more than once every 15 minutes.
Less powerful is meaningless if you are pointed in a hauler. They can kill you slowly HP by HP. For armed ship it might make a difference but those just won't be targeted because most people won't engage a fight not biased toward them anyway. |
Captain Tardbar
Sons of Sam
773
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Posted - 2013.12.07 02:50:00 -
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I'd be willing to donate money to the Concord if they banned certain people from the forums. "Entitlement" is a euphemism for "I hate the way you play and it makes me cry like a baby". If you fantasize about being immoral it means you enjoy being immoral deep down. Captain Tardbar: The official grumpy cat of General Discussion. |
Caviar Liberta
Moira. Villore Accords
234
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Posted - 2013.12.07 03:42:00 -
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Kahega Amielden wrote:Because it would make gate camps substantially more powerful and they really don't need to be.
Gate camps with with high alpha ships aligned out already exist.
You pre align and shot a couple volleys then warp out and back. I believe this is the new normal for large gate camps with fragile high damage ships. |
Yarda Black
Epidemic. Spaceship Samurai
1
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Posted - 2013.12.07 10:30:00 -
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This already exists.
People with a sec lower than -5 can be attacked without sentry-aggro People who are agressed can be attacked without sentry-aggro
So what you really want is some guts to go after these guys. CCP cant give you that all the way from Iceland. You need to ask your mom about this.
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Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld White Mountain Coalition
628
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Posted - 2013.12.07 10:32:00 -
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Praethis Starloe wrote:I'll keep this relatively short and sweet. We can bribe Concord to kill nubs in Hi-sec, this is awesome!
But lets take it a step further.....What if we could bribe concord to allow us to attack anyone on low-sec gates without Gate gun aggro?
In my dream: The CEO of a corporation could buy a contract allowing us to attack anyone on gates for say a week at a set price.
We could put full use of the Interceptor frigates in low-sec if this were possible. Hell Frigate pvp could finally exist on gates in low-sec :D
I am being EXTREMELY selfish with this idea....i love frigates....so what?
But honestly...in comparison to bribing concord in hi-sec for full out wars....why should this topic be overlooked?
Have at me dogs of the forums.
Frigate pvp does exist at gates in low sec, you just got to know the rules of how to deaggro. Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction... |
Remiel Pollard
Shockwave Innovations Surely You're Joking
2094
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Posted - 2013.12.07 11:03:00 -
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Yarda Black wrote:This already exists.
People with a sec lower than -5 can be attacked without sentry-aggro People who are agressed can be attacked without sentry-aggro
So what you really want is some guts to go after these guys. CCP cant give you that all the way from Iceland. You need to ask your mom about this.
Go take a look at his killboard.
Now take a look at yours.
Now take a look at his again.
Now apologise profusely. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |
Lugalbandak
Anunnaku Warfare Corp.
271
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Posted - 2013.12.07 11:09:00 -
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Praethis Starloe wrote:I'll keep this relatively short and sweet. We can bribe Concord to kill nubs in Hi-sec, this is awesome!
But lets take it a step further.....What if we could bribe concord to allow us to attack anyone on low-sec gates without Gate gun aggro?
In my dream: The CEO of a corporation could buy a contract allowing us to attack anyone on gates for say a week at a set price.
We could put full use of the Interceptor frigates in low-sec if this were possible. Hell Frigate pvp could finally exist on gates in low-sec :D
I am being EXTREMELY selfish with this idea....i love frigates....so what?
But honestly...in comparison to bribing concord in hi-sec for full out wars....why should this topic be overlooked?
Have at me dogs of the forums.
im sure you just joking
The police horse is the only animal in the world that haz his male genitals on his back |
Remiel Pollard
Shockwave Innovations Surely You're Joking
2094
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Posted - 2013.12.07 11:13:00 -
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Little Dragon Khamez wrote:Praethis Starloe wrote:I'll keep this relatively short and sweet. We can bribe Concord to kill nubs in Hi-sec, this is awesome!
But lets take it a step further.....What if we could bribe concord to allow us to attack anyone on low-sec gates without Gate gun aggro?
In my dream: The CEO of a corporation could buy a contract allowing us to attack anyone on gates for say a week at a set price.
We could put full use of the Interceptor frigates in low-sec if this were possible. Hell Frigate pvp could finally exist on gates in low-sec :D
I am being EXTREMELY selfish with this idea....i love frigates....so what?
But honestly...in comparison to bribing concord in hi-sec for full out wars....why should this topic be overlooked?
Have at me dogs of the forums.
Frigate pvp does exist at gates in low sec, you just got to know the rules of how to deaggro.
We know the 'rules'. We just don't like them.
We know how to use multiple assault frigates to aggro on gate/station, have whoever is taking sentry guns first warp off then straight back again, and then everyone else follow procedurally, and as long as one ship has the target tackled, those frigates that return won't take sentry gun fire again. We are well aware of this. The problem is, it's overly complicated.
I, for one, would like sentry guns removed from low sec entirely. But, I can also see why that might be a problem for the time being. What Praethis is saying is, it would be cool if we could bribe the navies that operate them to turn them off temporarily, like a wardec but not a wardec. Unprovoked aggression would still result in loss of sec status. As a side-effect or drawback of such a change, perhaps CCP could also make navies and sentry guns in high sec more effective and more aggressive, making it more difficult for those that choose unprovoked aggression to then operate in high sec.
I, personally, would just like to see frigate use become a more viable option in low sec than it currently is, however it's achieved. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |
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