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Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
2591
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Posted - 2013.11.10 08:47:00 -
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Rubicon really breaks the good balance that the Malediction enjoyed up until now. It goes so far that, while I was stockpiling Maledictions to use when the warp acceleration changes hit, I may end up now replacing them with Crows or Ares. It seriously breaks my heart. I mean, just look at this: http://i.imgur.com/WjJiAGn.jpg !
It looks like it's going to tip over and go into an uncontrolled spin any second! Worst of all, there is no way to rectify it, since there are no other high slots / hardpoints to work with! What used to be a magnificent ship is now marred by looking even more poorly planned than a scrapheap Stiletto or Crow. Just move one high slot's associated hardpoint locations and it would fix everything.
CCP stop ruining Eve, this game will be dead within 2 months if you don't re-balance the Malediction and release it like this. mark my words. |
Tru Love
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
3
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Posted - 2013.11.10 08:57:00 -
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+1; Eyes bleeding! |
Fintarue
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
3
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Posted - 2013.11.10 09:05:00 -
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I for one fully accept the changes to the malediction's new balance. Can't you tell this is the beginning stages of a Death Blossom module, ala Gunstar?
Get over yourself. Just because you're the CEO of a corp and alliance doesn't mean you're entitled to push CCP around. |
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
2592
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Posted - 2013.11.10 09:12:00 -
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Fintarue wrote:Can't you tell this is the beginning stages of a Death Blossom module, ala Gunstar? I'm pretty sure that is the exact opposite, given that it went from being able to have a symmetrical weapon layout like the Gunstar to being lopsided and awful.
And no, my 49 Eve accounts that I will cancel entitle me to pushing CCP around. I PAY YOUR SALARY CCP LISTEN TO ME |
Milton Middleson
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
382
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Posted - 2013.11.10 09:16:00 -
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I wanted to test out post-Rubicon Malediction on Sisi. Turns out that thanks to this change, it is borderline unusable. |
Fintarue
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
3
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Posted - 2013.11.10 09:51:00 -
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You guys seriously need to stop with the cookie cutter builds and start thinking out of teh box. After playing around with it on sis, I find that the new balance makes the mal exceptional at killing griffin/maulus alts as it makes the ship and subsequent weapon systems highly unpredictable.
Seriously, do you even pvp? As much as people whine about griffins and other ewar, here's a frig that will now be the best killer of those ships, and now it's even more whining. |
Komodo Askold
No Code of Conduct Fluffeh Bunneh Murder Squad
62
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Posted - 2013.11.10 11:42:00 -
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Seems like some Amarr ships have serious trouble with their hardpoints, in the sense of they're there but inexplicabily unusable. The Malediction is a good example. Also the Prophecy, as for some reason it can't have 4 launchers on each wing (2 on top, 2 on bottom) but rather 1 on top, 1 on bottom and the other ones on the rest of the hull...
I have no clue how much difficult is to modify the physical location of hardpoints on ships, but if it's not much complicated, I think it would be good to revisit them and check for such 'incongruences'. |
Sirinda
Oberon Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
252
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Posted - 2013.11.10 11:44:00 -
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Fintarue wrote:You guys seriously need to stop with the cookie cutter builds and start thinking out of teh box. After playing around with it on sis, I find that the new balance makes the mal exceptional at killing griffin/maulus alts as it makes the ship and subsequent weapon systems highly unpredictable.
Seriously, do you even pvp? As much as people whine about griffins and other ewar, here's a frig that will now be the best killer of those ships, and now it's even more whining.
. <- the point
O_O <- you |
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd CAStabouts
981
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Posted - 2013.11.10 12:48:00 -
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Previously, the Malediction used hardpoint locations 1, 2, 3 and 4. Now it only uses locations 1, 2 and 3. That would be great except that it looks completely terrible. I already said this before but I'll say it again:
Art Department, can you please please please have someone take a look at the Malediction's properties and edit them to make the ship use hardpoints 2, 3 and 4 instead of 1, 2 and 3?
For some of us (as you can see) this is one of our favorite interceptors and making it look ridiculous just kinda kills it.
...Stop looking at me like that. Of course EVE players care about how their ships look - that was what you were hoping for when you made them all look amazing, wasn't it? |
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
2592
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Posted - 2013.11.10 18:01:00 -
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I demand a dev response for this critically important issue. Who's with me? |
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Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd CAStabouts
988
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Posted - 2013.11.10 18:20:00 -
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Petrus Blackshell wrote:I demand a dev response for this critically important issue. Who's with me?
Good lord, man. It's the weekend. Let them have lives and families and drunken shark-eating parties and stuff.
There aren't any devs until Monday.
...and I've noticed that demanding is usually a good way to make them not respond. EVER. |
Fintarue
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
3
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Posted - 2013.11.10 18:27:00 -
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Sirinda wrote:Fintarue wrote:You guys seriously need to stop with the cookie cutter builds and start thinking out of teh box. After playing around with it on sis, I find that the new balance makes the mal exceptional at killing griffin/maulus alts as it makes the ship and subsequent weapon systems highly unpredictable.
Seriously, do you even pvp? As much as people whine about griffins and other ewar, here's a frig that will now be the best killer of those ships, and now it's even more whining. . <- the point O_O <- you
o.0 <-- You
Petrus, Fintarue, Milton <--- all the same corp
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Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
2593
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Posted - 2013.11.10 23:36:00 -
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Alvatore DiMarco wrote:Petrus Blackshell wrote:I demand a dev response for this critically important issue. Who's with me? Good lord, man. It's the weekend. Let them have lives and families and drunken shark-eating parties and stuff. There aren't any devs until Monday. ...and I've noticed that demanding is usually a good way to make them not respond. EVER. Look, I don't think you understand how critical this issue is or how important I am. It's a matter of life or death of the game.
(In other words, I know this is all silly, but so what? It's more entertaining than one line of "fix Malediction hardpoints pls".) |
Domanique Altares
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
1923
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Posted - 2013.11.11 00:37:00 -
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Petrus Blackshell wrote: how important I am.
You're not even hi-sec famous. |
Sara Navorski
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
2
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Posted - 2013.11.11 00:43:00 -
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I had 200 stockpiled for the rubicon release.
Not going to bother now that I've seen the direction it's taking. Going to reprocess them.
WTS: Whatever it is that comes out of veldspar when you mash it up a bit. |
Kora Ethereal
Dawn Gaming
27
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Posted - 2013.11.11 07:49:00 -
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Domanique Altares wrote:Petrus Blackshell wrote: how important I am. You're not even hi-sec famous.
Alliance doesn't even have a logo. |
Domanique Altares
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
1925
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Posted - 2013.11.11 08:18:00 -
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Kora Ethereal wrote:Domanique Altares wrote:Petrus Blackshell wrote: how important I am. You're not even hi-sec famous. Alliance doesn't even have a logo.
Thanks for the update. |
Komodo Askold
No Code of Conduct Fluffeh Bunneh Murder Squad
67
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Posted - 2013.11.11 12:26:00 -
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Fintarue wrote:Sirinda wrote:Fintarue wrote:You guys seriously need to stop with the cookie cutter builds and start thinking out of teh box. After playing around with it on sis, I find that the new balance makes the mal exceptional at killing griffin/maulus alts as it makes the ship and subsequent weapon systems highly unpredictable.
Seriously, do you even pvp? As much as people whine about griffins and other ewar, here's a frig that will now be the best killer of those ships, and now it's even more whining. . <- the point O_O <- you o.0 <-- You Petrus, Fintarue, Milton <--- all the same corp She's completely right, on this topic we're discussing the allocation of launchers on the ship's physical hull, not its gameplay parameters. Seems like you red 'unbalanced' on the title and didn't even read the OP. With 'unbalanced', he was talking in terms of simetry and inertia. Duh.
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Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
2593
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Posted - 2013.11.11 15:02:00 -
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Kora Ethereal wrote:Domanique Altares wrote:Petrus Blackshell wrote: how important I am. You're not even hi-sec famous. Alliance doesn't even have a logo. Better than unironically using Comic Sans on the corp website, but you don't see me rubbing that in your face. Wait... Rifterlings - small gang frigate PvP - lowsec pirate operation, newbie-friendly, free ship program; Join today! www.rifterlings.com
Accidentally The Whole Frigate (blog) - Learning how to pew pew, one loss at a time - www.thewholefrigate.com |
Adam Zalonis
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
11
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Posted - 2013.11.11 16:54:00 -
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Alvatore DiMarco wrote:Petrus Blackshell wrote:I demand a dev response for this critically important issue. Who's with me? Good lord, man. It's the weekend. Let them have lives and families and drunken shark-eating parties and stuff.
Oh yeah, H+íkarl.
Anyway good point. +1 |
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Starbuck05
The Mjolnir Bloc Talons Of Blood
33
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Posted - 2013.11.11 17:43:00 -
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Jezus...instead of complaining how the ship looks,zoom out abit and problem fixed! Besides i doubt anyone pvp's with the image fully zoomed in on the ship. -á- I am the commanding officer , u should adress me as sir ! -á- But if i call u sir , what would i call your wife then ?? |
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
2597
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Posted - 2013.11.11 18:59:00 -
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Starbuck05 wrote:Jezus...instead of complaining how the ship looks,zoom out abit and problem fixed! Besides i doubt anyone pvp's with the image fully zoomed in on the ship. Speak for yourself. Also have you considered the mass balance of the ship, or its aerodynamicity? Completely unusable. Rifterlings - small gang frigate PvP - lowsec pirate operation, newbie-friendly, free ship program; Join today! www.rifterlings.com
Accidentally The Whole Frigate (blog) - Learning how to pew pew, one loss at a time - www.thewholefrigate.com |
Veritaal
Koshaku Gentlemen's Agreement
24
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Posted - 2013.11.11 19:54:00 -
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The Malediction was so beautiful...
CCP - do not let this atrocity make it to TQ! |
Tru Love
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
5
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Posted - 2013.11.11 21:41:00 -
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Are we there yet? How fresh is that pod fluid? |
Morgan North
Mostly Harmful Pirate Corp Black Core Alliance
137
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Posted - 2013.11.11 21:47:00 -
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I keep saying this but...
For inertiaa, the mass distribution needs to be symetrical along a rotation axis. For 3d objects, symmetry along any two of the three axis is sufficient. Pleasedon't leave the malediction lopsided. It looks bad and its bad design for a high sppeed, high maneuvreability ships. The crow is even more horrible. |
King Rothgar
Path of the Fallen
366
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Posted - 2013.11.11 22:24:00 -
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Fix please, give it two hardpoints with a bigger bonus or give it 4 with a smaller bonus. Don't lopside it!
On a related note, many other ships suffer this same issue. Fireworks and snowballs are great, but what I really want is a corpse launcher. |
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
2598
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Posted - 2013.11.11 22:28:00 -
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King Rothgar wrote:Fix please, give it two hardpoints with a bigger bonus or give it 4 with a smaller bonus. Don't lopside it!
On a related note, many other ships suffer this same issue. Not even required! The current (TQ) Malediction still only has 3 rocket launchers, but because there are 4 high slots, they can be shuffled around to where they're symmetrical (slots 1, 3, and 4 I think). Just make Rubicon use those and disaster and Eve dying is averted.
Ccp pls Rifterlings - small gang frigate PvP - lowsec pirate operation, newbie-friendly, free ship program; Join today! www.rifterlings.com
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Iain Zigmura
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
6
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Posted - 2013.11.12 03:30:00 -
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I think the Mal looks amazing now, you guys just don't appreciate art. |
Lloyd Roses
Blue-Fire
321
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Posted - 2013.11.12 17:15:00 -
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+1 for properly balancing the malediction. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=288823&find=unread - Looking for a handful of well-versed EU pilots. Especially interested in hyperactive dscanners. |
Denuo Secus
211
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Posted - 2013.11.15 01:22:00 -
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Another +1
This thread needs blue bars. |
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