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Caviar Liberta
Moira. Villore Accords
185
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Posted - 2013.10.21 15:15:00 -
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embrel wrote:It's clear: make mining less fun! he had sooo much fun mining with 1 account that he thought he could maximise his fun by having a few accounts more. on a more serious note: what would happen to the EVEconomy if such hardcore-multiboxers were inexistent? for CCP it's a win. I guess also for us less mining-addicted players as we get to have cheaper resources. Without them I guess CCP would have to increase mining yields.
I'm surprised CCP doesn't have some sort of offering to lower the cost per account if you were to activate 10 or more accounts at the same to encourage more of this. |
Murk Paradox
Duty. The Cursed Few
572
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Posted - 2013.10.21 15:17:00 -
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I see it as a waste of computer resources to accomplish this.
Apart from that, holy hell. This post has been signed by Murk Paradox and no other accounts, alternate or otherwise. Any other post claiming to be this holder's is subject to being banned at the discretion of the GM Team as it would violate the TOS in regards to impersonation. Signed, Murk Paradox. In triplicate. |
Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
1371
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Posted - 2013.10.21 15:20:00 -
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Caviar Liberta wrote:embrel wrote:It's clear: make mining less fun! he had sooo much fun mining with 1 account that he thought he could maximise his fun by having a few accounts more. on a more serious note: what would happen to the EVEconomy if such hardcore-multiboxers were inexistent? for CCP it's a win. I guess also for us less mining-addicted players as we get to have cheaper resources. Without them I guess CCP would have to increase mining yields. I'm surprised CCP doesn't have some sort of offering to lower the cost per account if you were to activate 10 or more accounts at the same to encourage more of this. Why would they do that? Right now they make more cash. Honestly, the bit I'm surprised about is that they haven't made their own multiboxing software built in, wor working with isboxer. People pay $50/year for innerspace (the thing that makes isboxer work), CCP could either develop a native way for the client to do this, or work in partnership with isboxer, and rake in some extra cash from the multiboxers, while encouraging more multiboxers to go mental with accounts. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. |
TharOkha
0asis Group
621
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Posted - 2013.10.21 16:24:00 -
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i dont know why all the cry here. -lets just say that one company has one CNC machine -the other one invested in 97 CNCs
The first one is complaining about how much that son-of-a-b"tch earns every month.
GÇ£If reality can destroy the dream, why shouldn't the dream destroy reality?GÇ¥ |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
59151
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Posted - 2013.10.21 16:29:00 -
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stoicfaux wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:I have a feeling eventually the Rule-Hammer is going to come down on this BS sometime within the next year. More likely that CCP will simply change ice mechanics to make mass isoboxing less practical/efficient/fun.
That has most indeed backfired, did it not ?
Mayhaps there should be a limit of, say, 10 ships in any belt, anywhere, at one time. If 10 are present, the belt simply cannot be warped to. This also would lead to possibilities of hi-jacking high sec belts with non-mining ships. I don't know. I haven't really thought about it till now. More evil minds than mine can figure something out I'm sure. "Who thinks it's normal to kneel down to a naked man who's nailed to a cross? It's like a bad leather bar." -- John Waters |
Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
2741
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Posted - 2013.10.21 16:30:00 -
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It sucks to lose a spaceship. Can you imagine how hilarious it would be to lose 97?
I'm surprised there isn't a bunch of Goons hunting this guy for the "torrent of tears" potential alone...
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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
59151
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Posted - 2013.10.21 16:31:00 -
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TharOkha wrote:i dont know why all the cry here. -lets just say that one company has one CNC machine -the other one invested in 97 CNCs
The first one is complaining about how much that son-of-a-b"tch earns every month.
The problem I have is this: are we playing a Sci-Fi simulator or a Real Life simulator. These folks are turning it into a corrupt operation just like in Real Life, which, imho, is rather unimaginative and uninspiring. "Who thinks it's normal to kneel down to a naked man who's nailed to a cross? It's like a bad leather bar." -- John Waters |
Atomic Virulent
Dark Matter Industrial
111
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Posted - 2013.10.21 16:36:00 -
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It's just Mittens' alt account 'The Wis'.
See, CCP allows his douchebaggery. Yours or mine would be bannable. |
Atomic Virulent
Dark Matter Industrial
111
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Posted - 2013.10.21 16:39:00 -
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Yet Marmite refuses to wardec them... hmmmmmmm.... |
Mr M
Sebiestor Tribe
319
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Posted - 2013.10.21 17:01:00 -
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I have no experience in multiboxing so how many clients can you run on one computer? Ten? In that case the person have ten coputers running. He's probably buying plex but he still have to pay for the hardware and the electricity bill and what I know no energy companies takes ISK (or bitcoins).
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TharOkha
0asis Group
621
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Posted - 2013.10.21 17:03:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:TharOkha wrote:i dont know why all the cry here. -lets just say that one company has one CNC machine -the other one invested in 97 CNCs
The first one is complaining about how much that son-of-a-b"tch earns every month.
The problem I have is this: are we playing a Sci-Fi simulator or a Real Life simulator. These folks are turning it into a corrupt operation just like in Real Life, which, imho, is rather unimaginative and uninspiring.
Still dont see a problem here. You can do this as well.
Either he: -invested in 97 accounts with real cash. he is stupid, but he deserve those isks for the effort (and ofc money). -or he PLEXed them so he is one of the reasons, why there is 600m per PLEX already.
If i would be a Mittani, i would order to my hive to do this too and PLEX would skyrocket to another MMO realm, while sitting on enormous amount of ore/ice. GÇ£If reality can destroy the dream, why shouldn't the dream destroy reality?GÇ¥ |
Rhivre
TarNec Invisible Exchequer
504
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Posted - 2013.10.21 17:10:00 -
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And there I was thinking the whole point of eve is "Play how you want".
I always forget, it is "play how I play, otherwise I will be a sad panda"
Anyway, if he likes doing it, then its cool. I have no idea why people undock, but I hear it is quite a thing these days. |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3531
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Posted - 2013.10.21 17:16:00 -
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Little Dragon Khamez wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:CCP is making money off these maxers. Who knows what's behind this. Could be anything from e-peen to aspergers.
And if they are not caught in RMT or botting, they're clean.
If we want something done about this, we'll have to do it ourselves.
He might be plexing every single account and playing for free.
Perhaps.
I can stare at a wall for free too. |
stoicfaux
3278
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Posted - 2013.10.21 19:12:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:stoicfaux wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:I have a feeling eventually the Rule-Hammer is going to come down on this BS sometime within the next year. More likely that CCP will simply change ice mechanics to make mass isoboxing less practical/efficient/fun. That has most indeed backfired, did it not ? Mayhaps there should be a limit of, say, 10 ships in any belt, anywhere, at one time. If 10 are present, the belt simply cannot be warped to. This also would lead to possibilities of hi-jacking high sec belts with non-mining ships. I don't know. I haven't really thought about it till now. More evil minds than mine can figure something out I'm sure. Yes, this iteration backfired. However, the limitation of mass-multi-boxing is the multi-tasking ability of the human. In this case, all 97 ice miners are doing the same predictable repeated set of actions. So the next iteration could:
* break up the ice fields into many smaller fields that can only support a smaller number of miners, i.e. 97 ice miners trying to mine only 5 mack's worth of ice would be inefficient.
* increase the "complexity" of the action so that "unique" decisions need to be made on a per ship basis, i.e. sending the same commands to all 97 ships wouldn't work.
* spreading out the ice fields, requiring more travel and scanning.
or something else.
CCP has options for when/if they consider extreme multi-boxing a problem. I wouldn't be too worried. Highly amused, yes, but worried? Not so much.
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ElQuirko
Jester Syndicate S0UTHERN C0MF0RT
2190
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Posted - 2013.10.21 19:17:00 -
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When/where? My, uhh, friend wants to know. Also does anyone have any spare smartbombs? Save the Domi model! Spacewhales should be preserved. |
Balau
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.10.21 19:23:00 -
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At least he likes Coca Cola and not Pepsi |
Tollen Gallen
Xionworld
1175
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Posted - 2013.10.21 19:34:00 -
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Atomic Virulent wrote:Yet Marmite refuses to wardec them... hmmmmmmm....
I like Marmite. Signature |
Hinata' Hyuga
The Dark Triad Atrocitas
1
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Posted - 2013.10.21 19:49:00 -
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Balau wrote:At least he likes Coca Cola and not Pepsi
LMAO. I'm glad you caught that. I also found that humorous |
flakeys
Antwerpse Kerels Fidelas Constans
1549
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Posted - 2013.10.21 19:51:00 -
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TharOkha wrote: Every isk above that is his and i think he can earn tens of bilions a month.
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The only ''problem'' i see in this is that he could do the same with only a handfull of trader characters.
People like him who use a crapload of chars - usually miners with 10+ accounts - to accomplish a good iskflow is not a wrong choice ....it is however in my mind a choice for those too lazy or dumb to use a bit more of their brain to gain the same endresult.
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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Liam Li
The Graduates RAZOR Alliance
72
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Posted - 2013.10.21 20:19:00 -
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Huge respect for this guy! Man.
Characters are a lucrative source income, if he feels like he doesn't want to multibox to that extreme anymore he can just sell off all of those accounts!
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IDGAD
Get in the van I have candy.
23
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Posted - 2013.10.21 20:32:00 -
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The amount of time spent to plex the account is pretty much the same regardless of the amount of accounts. For example, it may take 9 hours of top end mining to make enough isk to plex that account, but every hour after that is pure profit so to speak. If you multiply this by X number of accounts, the amount of isk earned after that 9th hour grows proportionate to the account. So while it may only be 60 mill an hour after that for one account, it could be 600 or in this case nearly 6 BILLION an hour after that 9'th hour. Anyone can do this if they really want, it just takes a bit of time but most of all it requires a lot of startup ISK. If you can afford 60 plex, you start with 20 accounts and skill them up and mine while skilling them up. when you have enough isk to buy another 20 accounts worth , you do that and steadily increase your number. This gets lucrative but only if you have the will. |
Minabunny
Broken Wheel Mercantile and Trading Company Illusion of Solitude
64
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Posted - 2013.10.21 20:55:00 -
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I"m sure there are operations with lot more than 90+ accounts out there. |
Dr0000 Maulerant
Union Nanide and Tooling
48
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Posted - 2013.10.21 21:26:00 -
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It makes perfect sense, mining is relaxing but a little light on interactivity. So you're exponentially increasing your isk and linearly increasing effort.
I want to know though, how is this guy "ruining" the game for anyone? Tell me again about how every playstyle you dont engage in "doesn't require any effort" and everyone who does it needs to die in a fire. Be sure to mention about how you tried it once but it was too easy/boring/ethnic-homophobic slur.-á |
Murk Paradox
Duty. The Cursed Few
572
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Posted - 2013.10.21 21:28:00 -
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Balau wrote:At least he likes Coca Cola and not Pepsi
This. This right here. This post has been signed by Murk Paradox and no other accounts, alternate or otherwise. Any other post claiming to be this holder's is subject to being banned at the discretion of the GM Team as it would violate the TOS in regards to impersonation. Signed, Murk Paradox. In triplicate. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4904
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Posted - 2013.10.21 21:43:00 -
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Eve online, flexible enough to accommodate even 97 clients (at once?) There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
Michael Turate
The Scope Gallente Federation
71
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Posted - 2013.10.21 21:59:00 -
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Assuming he's not cheating then this is very much in the spirit of the game. Innovate, expand and profit in whatever way you can until the parameters of the game prevent you.
If an alliance FC gets 100 willing people to assign their sentry drones to a fast locker and that one ship proceeds to run a fleet fight without any input from the 100 other pilots, is that an example of unethical and overpowered multi-boxing?
People work ingeniously within the boundaries of the game in order to gain advantage. This guy is no different. While his activities would be seen as distasteful to most, we all dine out on stories of fleet fight where we've mostly pressed the F keys on one man's say so. People in glass houses etc............ |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4904
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Posted - 2013.10.21 22:02:00 -
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Michael Turate wrote:Assuming he's not cheating then this is very much in the spirit of the game. Innovate, expand and profit in whatever way you can until the parameters of the game prevent you.
If an alliance FC gets 100 willing people to assign their sentry drones to a fast locker and that one ship proceeds to run a fleet fight without any input from the 100 other pilots, is that an example of unethical and overpowered multi-boxing?
People work ingeniously within the boundaries of the game in order to gain advantage. This guy is no different. While his activities would be seen as distasteful to most, we all dine out on stories of fleet fight where we've mostly pressed the F keys on one man's say so. People in glass houses etc............ Only 100? You mean test prophect fleets or us? There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
Rekon X
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
31
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Posted - 2013.10.21 22:57:00 -
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You could sweep though lowsec with that many players in a bunch of rifters.
Stealth bomber fleet anyone? |
Baali Tekitsu
State Protectorate Caldari State
71
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Posted - 2013.10.21 22:59:00 -
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Rekon X wrote:You could sweep though lowsec with that many players in a bunch of rifters.
Stealth bomber fleet anyone?
You could actually flip an ongoing sov war with that many bombers or doctrine ships. |
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
482
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Posted - 2013.10.21 23:47:00 -
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I have removed some rule breaking posts and those quoting them. As always I let some edge cases stay. Please people, keep it on topic and above all civil!
The rules: 2. Be respectful toward others at all times.
The purpose of the EVE Online forums is to provide a platform for exchange of ideas, and a venue for the discussion of EVE Online. Occasionally there will be conflicts that arise when people voice opinions. Forum users are expected to be courteous when disagreeing with others.
4. Personal attacks are prohibited.
Commonly known as flaming, personal attacks are posts that are designed to personally berate or insult another forum user. Posts of this nature are not beneficial to the community spirit that CCP promote and as such they will not be tolerated.
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