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teh pR3acH3r
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Posted - 2006.01.31 16:52:00 -
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Originally by: Tiuwaz since this thread started we had more NBSI and more PA in tribute than in the last month
you manage to get a 30 man fleet within a short time after the announcment, the biggest NBSI fleet i know of since E-R left
You guys really need to get a grip with this "30 man fleet" nonsense. Were you even there, Tiuwaz, or did you hear this from someone who heard it from someone who knows someone?
Our gang was 15 at its peak with no more than 5 battleships at any one time. We didn't go into FE space looking for a blob war, we went to scout and look for a few easy kills in the process.
ps. These are the same pilots that would have been willing to fight ATUK with you, had your leadership not turned us away. You should be questioning their motives, not our tactics. _________________________________
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ParMizaN
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Posted - 2006.01.31 16:53:00 -
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bahahah
pa and nbsi go BOOOM
interesting arrangement guys
Phenomena of ironies, cast the litany aside How intelligible, blessed be the forgetful |
ZedLey
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Posted - 2006.01.31 16:53:00 -
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Originally by: Famine Aligher'ri To funny. It's not good to underestimate your opponent as Five obviously did to F-E. Now both joining in forces because obviously Five isn't that strong to begin with. Oh such a sad day indeed. Now Five like F-E has turned into another carebear alliance. Siding with the alliance that poses the most threat.
Try getting alittle bit of idea of happenings before you contribute to the thread, k?
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The Jok3r
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Posted - 2006.01.31 16:55:00 -
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Originally by: Harisdrop
What causes a man to say that what is right is not worth it anymore? To give up on values is worse than giving up on a friend.
When the so called friends leave the rest alone and are not willing to fight hand in hand. Allowing them to die for a fight you started and "talked" about ending. That is what makes a man realize what type of friend is worth having. When the "friends" loose their values and get greedy on making money and not helping keeping FE from the slaughter.
I saw Persh punt PA\NBSI out of the "Friend Circle."
Good for you FE... "Were do they get those wonderful toys?" |
BigBoob FAalt
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Posted - 2006.01.31 16:56:00 -
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Originally by: Famine Aligher'ri This war has been very funny. Suddenly I feel BoB standings has went up more.
LOL only the cluless would say that, I would say things about their take over in FA but just look at the post today. They have more corps / alliances on their bandwagon any other corp in the game.
Stare at my sweater puppets.... yess.... you are getting sleppy... send me some isk... |
Harisdrop
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Posted - 2006.01.31 17:12:00 -
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Originally by: The Jok3r
Originally by: Harisdrop
What causes a man to say that what is right is not worth it anymore? To give up on values is worse than giving up on a friend.
When the so called friends leave the rest alone and are not willing to fight hand in hand. Allowing them to die for a fight you started and "talked" about ending. That is what makes a man realize what type of friend is worth having. When the "friends" loose their values and get greedy on making money and not helping keeping FE from the slaughter.
I saw Persh punt PA\NBSI out of the "Friend Circle."
Good for you FE...
Who cares what Alliance you are in. Do you support .5. Ask any Xelas man if they did it for thier Alliance or themselves. -------------------------- I have big balls of Plasma coming out of my guns. |
Zzazzt
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Posted - 2006.01.31 17:17:00 -
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Originally by: Sun Ra
Well idk soon as celest start posting you guys start reacting like 'what are we doing' seen it happen before between mlm and celest
In which case you've misinterpreted what you've seen. It's true that Celest's opinion has factored into decisions we've made in the past, but at the end of the day, we do as our members decide to do. Nothing else.
If you suggested something on the forum which we then acted on because we agreed with your opinion, does that mean we're doing as you tell us? ____________________________________________
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Eversor
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Posted - 2006.01.31 17:21:00 -
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Well I was behind the BIG NORTH idea, anyone remember the Northpoint channel? I created that.I believed that all the north together could be unstopable, then during the first -5- and a BOB incursion on the North G-IRON complained that PA wasn't doing enough to help fight for the North so they pretty much left the Great North Coalition and the Northpoint channel. Then BOB atttacked Imperium and a lot of people didn't seemed to care to act to help them out as a collective North.
Us in F-E decided that still working closely with NBSI and PA would help bring stability to our areas. There were many enemies that came up and we fought them together, then -5- set up shop in H-PA and F-E did become sort of the meatshield. We were the ones dying and fighting every day (of course there were some good support in the beginning especially from NBSI when ER was still in it). But eventually it seemed like we were left on our own to fight against one of the other top PVP alliances in game. On top of that it seemed to us that the NBSI and PA leadership didn't have good control on their pilots because they would tell us that they would help while their pilots would be on the other side of the galaxy ganking miners.
I believe we could have kept the fight against -5-for a long time, even if eventually it would have degenerated into frig guerrilla tactics. But as we looked at the Map and noticed the ships destroyed blobs in our regions, I would look at the other regions of the North under the "Pilots in space" filter and all I saw were giant blobs of miners and NPCers and traders doing their own thing as our pilots fought bravely on a bloody battlefield.
Nobody seemed to care.
F-E was fighting not only -5- but also Morsus Mihi in Geminate, we were involved in POS war hell in two different regions and the only people that came to help were Ferge Alliance and KAOS. Big kudos to them. We lost sovereignity in LS-JEP and d7-zac we lost the station and we fought like hell to get them back which we did. All this you could easily see watching the starmap.
Nobody seemed to care.
Eventually all warriors ask themselves.... what are we fighting for, or for whom?? And most important, who are we dying for??
The answer to that question pretty much dictated F-E's current course of action.
Just remember in the future that attention must be paid.
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The Jok3r
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Posted - 2006.01.31 17:27:00 -
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Edited by: The Jok3r on 31/01/2006 17:27:56
Originally by: Harisdrop
Originally by: The Jok3r
Originally by: Harisdrop
What causes a man to say that what is right is not worth it anymore? To give up on values is worse than giving up on a friend.
When the so called friends leave the rest alone and are not willing to fight hand in hand. Allowing them to die for a fight you started and "talked" about ending. That is what makes a man realize what type of friend is worth having. When the "friends" loose their values and get greedy on making money and not helping keeping FE from the slaughter.
I saw Persh punt PA\NBSI out of the "Friend Circle."
Good for you FE...
Who cares what Alliance you are in. Do you support .5. Ask any Xelas man if they did it for thier Alliance or themselves.
So then why post all this crap???? (below)
Originally by: Harisdrop Whats the point in all this. Why does history repeat over and over and over.
To our old friends that turn your backs on the good days. I remember flying with GODS in Imperium and PA. What causes a man to say that what is right is not worth it anymore. To give up on values is worse than giving up on a friend. I look at the corps that had the fight at hand in Tribute and to say that good fight lets be friends makes no sense.
I know alliances have some purpose, I know its has to be common thought. TO do things as a group. No Corp or Alliance can be directed as an ultimate dictatorship. You have a choice to move on.
I say to those miners in FE space its time to pack your bags. You will have no fun in this war. FE and .5. are not here to defend space they are here to destroy your friends.
4S and others have shown you where the FE and .5. hearts are and they are not in your protection.
What good comes from this is a change that EVE needs. THere will be different view. One thing is for sure Tenal and Branch will stay the same.
If you are not doing it for the alliance then we see why you left FE to fend The .5. Alone.
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Talon SilverHawk
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Posted - 2006.01.31 17:32:00 -
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Originally by: Sun Ra
Originally by: Zzazzt
Originally by: Sun Ra MLM should stop go running soon as darth doesnt like your alliance does, if celest is so important to you, you would have gone and done what they did but no you felt the need to be in a 0.0 alliance where u can build your corp up, stop feeling like you owe anyone outside that alliance anything.
Like you said yourself - we went our own way a long time ago. Do you really think that we make make our decisions based on Darth's forum posts?
Well idk soon as celest start posting you guys start reacting like 'what are we doing' seen it happen before between mlm and celest
Lol what is this a bit of reverse psychology. Ill go on the forums and make it look like they jump at what ever celest say making them feel like they have to do the opposite lolololol, nice , and why do you care.
MLM will do there own thing, Doesn'nt mean celest doesnt care about corps it considers friends.
Tal
What goes around comes around
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pacifica
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Posted - 2006.01.31 17:38:00 -
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Originally by: Eversor Well I was behind the BIG NORTH idea, anyone remember the Northpoint channel? I created that.I believed that all the north together could be unstopable, then during the first -5- and a BOB incursion on the North G-IRON complained that PA wasn't doing enough to help fight for the North so they pretty much left the Great North Coalition and the Northpoint channel. Then BOB atttacked Imperium and a lot of people didn't seemed to care to act to help them out as a collective North.
Us in F-E decided that still working closely with NBSI and PA would help bring stability to our areas. There were many enemies that came up and we fought them together, then -5- set up shop in H-PA and F-E did become sort of the meatshield. We were the ones dying and fighting every day (of course there were some good support in the beginning especially from NBSI when ER was still in it). But eventually it seemed like we were left on our own to fight against one of the other top PVP alliances in game. On top of that it seemed to us that the NBSI and PA leadership didn't have good control on their pilots because they would tell us that they would help while their pilots would be on the other side of the galaxy ganking miners.
I believe we could have kept the fight against -5-for a long time, even if eventually it would have degenerated into frig guerrilla tactics. But as we looked at the Map and noticed the ships destroyed blobs in our regions, I would look at the other regions of the North under the "Pilots in space" filter and all I saw were giant blobs of miners and NPCers and traders doing their own thing as our pilots fought bravely on a bloody battlefield.
Nobody seemed to care.
F-E was fighting not only -5- but also Morsus Mihi in Geminate, we were involved in POS war hell in two different regions and the only people that came to help were Ferge Alliance and KAOS. Big kudos to them. We lost sovereignity in LS-JEP and d7-zac we lost the station and we fought like hell to get them back which we did. All this you could easily see watching the starmap.
Nobody seemed to care.
Eventually all warriors ask themselves.... what are we fighting for, or for whom?? And most important, who are we dying for??
The answer to that question pretty much dictated F-E's current course of action.
Just remember in the future that attention must be paid.
I understand your post and i respect it but since the begging of the conflic we TRY to Make communication and work together.
Saying Why you fight 5 ask Pers or Krulls Persi was in ATUK controlled space in the begging shooting their station. so it come back in our territory.
ATUK did what they want they split us put pression on PA,NBSI,FE
PA and NBSI did answer ATUK saying we stand our ground.
so they turn and Put pression on FE.
saying we wasn t in h-pa is a lie. we did go we did try we didn t make it with communication and planning.
Losing ship i don t care it only a PIXEL in a screen.
Forming with your enemy is just strange that mean what you fight all that time, your belive, your freedome and every thing since a long time was wrong because 1 leader make your decision.
Just see the true YOUR LEADER never want to make good communication with us. they plan to make us merge or die. i have convo of all this.
any way
For my part what ever happen in this game.
1. - i Will never be allied of BoB or Five. 2. - i will respect my friend.
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Comnander Marcello
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Posted - 2006.01.31 17:41:00 -
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F-E, 2014 members .5., 576 members
And F-E is whining that they didn't get any help against FIVE.. uhhm.. Can someone spell DYSFUNCTIONAL ALLIANCE please?
hahahaha
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Wizie
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Posted - 2006.01.31 17:43:00 -
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Originally by: pacifica
Originally by: Eversor Well I was behind the BIG NORTH idea, anyone remember the Northpoint channel? I created that.I believed that all the north together could be unstopable, then during the first -5- and a BOB incursion on the North G-IRON complained that PA wasn't doing enough to help fight for the North so they pretty much left the Great North Coalition and the Northpoint channel. Then BOB atttacked Imperium and a lot of people didn't seemed to care to act to help them out as a collective North.
Us in F-E decided that still working closely with NBSI and PA would help bring stability to our areas. There were many enemies that came up and we fought them together, then -5- set up shop in H-PA and F-E did become sort of the meatshield. We were the ones dying and fighting every day (of course there were some good support in the beginning especially from NBSI when ER was still in it). But eventually it seemed like we were left on our own to fight against one of the other top PVP alliances in game. On top of that it seemed to us that the NBSI and PA leadership didn't have good control on their pilots because they would tell us that they would help while their pilots would be on the other side of the galaxy ganking miners.
I believe we could have kept the fight against -5-for a long time, even if eventually it would have degenerated into frig guerrilla tactics. But as we looked at the Map and noticed the ships destroyed blobs in our regions, I would look at the other regions of the North under the "Pilots in space" filter and all I saw were giant blobs of miners and NPCers and traders doing their own thing as our pilots fought bravely on a bloody battlefield.
Nobody seemed to care.
F-E was fighting not only -5- but also Morsus Mihi in Geminate, we were involved in POS war hell in two different regions and the only people that came to help were Ferge Alliance and KAOS. Big kudos to them. We lost sovereignity in LS-JEP and d7-zac we lost the station and we fought like hell to get them back which we did. All this you could easily see watching the starmap.
Nobody seemed to care.
Eventually all warriors ask themselves.... what are we fighting for, or for whom?? And most important, who are we dying for??
The answer to that question pretty much dictated F-E's current course of action.
Just remember in the future that attention must be paid.
I understand your post and i respect it but since the begging of the conflic we TRY to Make communication and work together.
Saying Why you fight 5 ask Pers or Krulls Persi was in ATUK controlled space in the begging shooting their station. so it come back in our territory.
ATUK did what they want they split us put pression on PA,NBSI,FE
PA and NBSI did answer ATUK saying we stand our ground.
so they turn and Put pression on FE.
saying we wasn t in h-pa is a lie. we did go we did try we didn t make it with communication and planning.
Losing ship i don t care it only a PIXEL in a screen.
Forming with your enemy is just strange that mean what you fight all that time, your belive, your freedome and every thing since a long time was wrong because 1 leader make your decision.
Just see the true YOUR LEADER never want to make good communication with us. they plan to make us merge or die. i have convo of all this.
any way
For my part what ever happen in this game.
1. - i Will never be allied of BoB or Five. 2. - i will respect my friend.
From what I saw, a large number of PA corps were not even close to H-PA to even help. They didnt care. Still remember a whole bunch of EC Rogues camping MHC while F-E was asking for a more concerted effort to take on the 5.
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Wizie
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Posted - 2006.01.31 17:44:00 -
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Originally by: Comnander Marcello F-E, 2014 members .5., 576 members
And F-E is whining that they didn't get any help against FIVE.. uhhm.. Can someone spell DYSFUNCTIONAL ALLIANCE please?
hahahaha
Some alliances are not purely PvP orientated.
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Eversor
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Posted - 2006.01.31 17:54:00 -
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Originally by: Comnander Marcello F-E, 2014 members .5., 576 members
And F-E is whining that they didn't get any help against FIVE.. uhhm.. Can someone spell DYSFUNCTIONAL ALLIANCE please?
hahahaha
We weren't only fighting -5-.
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Harisdrop
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Posted - 2006.01.31 18:03:00 -
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Originally by: The Jok3r
If you are not doing it for the alliance then we see why you left FE to fend The .5. Alone.
You must understand. Its not an image or something solid you fight for. Space means nothing if you dont have your heart into it. If you fight cause your a lemming go play WOW. Eve is different. EVE you are more than just a player of a game. You are the game.
In Eve you get to become something more than you are in RL. Your skills mean nothing if your not playing the game you want. THere are players who dont know what Eve is. Its not a mining sim or a first person shooter. THere is no restart.
You break promises and you live forever for it. People will say "I see you where in GODS or HUN sorry cant join me." You have set your path and seen your future. You Alliance is part who you are but your character is more than that. You fight for your own reasons. We all do. Play the game of mOo and recycle and restart. Bare in mind your actions today will make where you are tommorrow. ASk Cochise! -------------------------- I have big balls of Plasma coming out of my guns. |
slothe
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Posted - 2006.01.31 18:04:00 -
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Originally by: Comnander Marcello F-E, 2014 members .5., 576 members
And F-E is whining that they didn't get any help against FIVE.. uhhm.. Can someone spell DYSFUNCTIONAL ALLIANCE please?
hahahaha
you know nothing.
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The End
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Posted - 2006.01.31 18:05:00 -
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Originally by: Comnander Marcello F-E, 2014 members .5., 576 members
And F-E is whining that they didn't get any help against FIVE.. uhhm.. Can someone spell DYSFUNCTIONAL ALLIANCE please?
hahahaha
WTS a clue
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Eversor
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Posted - 2006.01.31 18:11:00 -
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Originally by: Harisdrop You break promises and you live forever for it.
Cuts both ways.
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Kiyoshi Aphelion
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Posted - 2006.01.31 18:15:00 -
[320]
You know, I'm still struggling to understand why so many people are surprised that F-E are once again considered a hostile entity to the north. I mean come on am I really the only one who saw this coming? Let me explain from an Engineer's perspective. First we assume that PA and NBSI are already dead. So:
PA + NBSI = 0
Then we assume that .5. and F-E are fighting as one entity and we'll also assume that G and Iron decide to actively engage the newly formed entity together making them also a separate entity. So:
G + Iron = 1 .5. + FE = -1 PA + NBSI = 0
Now we have a system of equations. Since FE and .5. are considered Evil they have a negative align so are equal to -1. Now we solve for the dominating entity.
G + Iron + (PA + NBSI) = -(.5. + FE)
And as we all know 1 does not equal -1. So:
(G + Iron + (PA + NBSI))/-(.5. + FE) = GNW II
In laymen's terms, sit back and watch the fireworks boys, here comes the Second Great Northern War. We're all screwed once again...oh this is going to be fun!
Note: History repeats itself, F-E hostile entity once again, Phonix is in the north, Fade, Cloud Ring and Deklein are aligned against Venal, Tenal, Branch, and Tribute.
-The methods you use to meet your opponents speak truer than any words can express. When you risk pain and death, there is no truer sacrafice or strength.- |
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The Jok3r
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Posted - 2006.01.31 18:22:00 -
[321]
Originally by: Harisdrop
Originally by: The Jok3r
If you are not doing it for the alliance then we see why you left FE to fend The .5. Alone.
You must understand. Its not an image or something solid you fight for. Space means nothing if you dont have your heart into it. If you fight cause your a lemming go play WOW. Eve is different. EVE you are more than just a player of a game. You are the game.
In Eve you get to become something more than you are in RL. Your skills mean nothing if your not playing the game you want. THere are players who dont know what Eve is. Its not a mining sim or a first person shooter. THere is no restart.
You break promises and you live forever for it. People will say "I see you where in GODS or HUN sorry cant join me." You have set your path and seen your future. You Alliance is part who you are but your character is more than that. You fight for your own reasons. We all do. Play the game of mOo and recycle and restart. Bare in mind your actions today will make where you are tommorrow. ASk Cochise!
Ohhhh now I understand you mean itÆs not tangible itÆs about faith and where your heart is Ohhhhh.....
I am not asking for a Biography on the socialism of EVE. I understand it completely and I understand that the actions you took for what ever reason (greedy, bored, pride, afraid)or just like you said your heart was not in it in this game was to leave FE alone to fight The .5.
It is a lot easier to admit and live on man remember this is Eve and your actions will be held accountable in other players eyes. So if you repent now you might be saved....
"Were do they get those wonderful toys?" |
Tiwaz
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Posted - 2006.01.31 18:22:00 -
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Edited by: Tiwaz on 31/01/2006 18:26:34
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Tiwaz
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Posted - 2006.01.31 18:22:00 -
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Originally by: Top Hat
Originally by: Zzazzt
Originally by: Sun Ra MLM should stop go running soon as darth doesnt like your alliance does, if celest is so important to you, you would have gone and done what they did but no you felt the need to be in a 0.0 alliance where u can build your corp up, stop feeling like you owe anyone outside that alliance anything.
Like you said yourself - we went our own way a long time ago. Do you really think that we make make our decisions based on Darth's forum posts?
Darth likes to think you do.
now now wuubaa , post with ur main.
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Martin Mckenna
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Posted - 2006.01.31 18:33:00 -
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Originally by: Aman Sul Edited by: Aman Sul on 31/01/2006 00:39:46
After months of fighting the northern alliances [5] has succeeded in separating the men from the boys. After much talk and war declarations only Forsaken Empire gained our respect by fighting. Our FCÆs mingled a bit more and slowly but surely a camaraderie began to emerge based on determination and will. We realized there was more to be gained by combining our resources than by throwing them at each other. Our combined gazes looked further north and nothing else needed to be spoken.
Our focus will now be on PA & NBSI
m8....do you have a life at all
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wolverine1
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Posted - 2006.01.31 18:37:00 -
[325]
How many times have five stabbed FE in the back lmao and they nap them twice omg please ppl clap your hands we have a genious in the room. Anyway the story continues ......
-= NBSI 4TW! =-
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Adelai Niska
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Posted - 2006.01.31 18:37:00 -
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Edited by: Adelai Niska on 31/01/2006 18:37:23
Originally by: Comnander Marcello F-E, 2014 members .5., 576 members
And F-E is whining that they didn't get any help against FIVE.. uhhm.. Can someone spell DYSFUNCTIONAL ALLIANCE please?
hahahaha
The one thing I don't think anyone will argue is that [5] are stronger than F-E on a per-capita basis. They have higher SP, richer players, who are on all the time.
The numbers don't mean crap - if we have a fleet of 400 PvPers, 600 industrialists, and 1000 dead weight (alts, dead accounts), does that make us any more or less honorable in a fight than an alliance with a fleet of 400 PvPers, 50 industrialists, and 50 deadweight?
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wolverine1
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Posted - 2006.01.31 18:40:00 -
[327]
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Imran
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Posted - 2006.01.31 18:44:00 -
[328]
;o
EwokPoacher: Why hate Gallente? Blackest Sheep: Because we are beautiful |
Rob Skywalker
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Posted - 2006.01.31 18:50:00 -
[329]
Originally by: Kiyoshi Aphelion You know, I'm still struggling to understand why so many people are surprised that F-E are once again considered a hostile entity to the north. I mean come on am I really the only one who saw this coming? Let me explain from an Engineer's perspective. First we assume that PA and NBSI are already dead. So:
PA + NBSI = 0
Then we assume that .5. and F-E are fighting as one entity and we'll also assume that G and Iron decide to actively engage the newly formed entity together making them also a separate entity. So:
G + Iron = 1 .5. + FE = -1 PA + NBSI = 0
Now we have a system of equations. Since FE and .5. are considered Evil they have a negative align so are equal to -1. Now we solve for the dominating entity.
G + Iron + (PA + NBSI) = -(.5. + FE)
And as we all know 1 does not equal -1. So:
(G + Iron + (PA + NBSI))/-(.5. + FE) = GNW II
In laymen's terms, sit back and watch the fireworks boys, here comes the Second Great Northern War. We're all screwed once again...oh this is going to be fun!
Note: History repeats itself, F-E hostile entity once again, Phonix is in the north, Fade, Cloud Ring and Deklein are aligned against Venal, Tenal, Branch, and Tribute.
and all other in our brain ok ? pixel + pixel / bit - bit = picture picture + some code = game
ok ?
have fun * Iem the Rob Skywalker , nice what ?! ^^ |
The Cursed
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Posted - 2006.01.31 18:59:00 -
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FE and 5 have a nap. PA/NBSI are targets.Your allaince had more then enuff time to help in the attack onattuck but failed. Spending most of your time in syndicate space doing god know what. I want to make this point clear to all. Just b/c we nap 5 does not mean we are launching a major campaign agaisnt the north. Are goals are simple. Stay alive and have strong friends. So for all you who keep saying g/iron-FE if they want to fight then they come and fight otherwise were leaving them out of this. It's PA/NBSI time to die. Hiding in the north like cowards. Member of GODS!! Beer em Good!!!!!!!
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