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tempus deathbringer
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.28 17:38:00 -
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I have come and gone on this game a lot of times. I always fall into the same routine of missioning for a month or two and getting bored. I come to the forums and ask the same repetitious questions. What to do? corp help? skill build? best ship? how to make iskies?
well, im , quite frankly tired of it.
last night, i logged in and stared off into space looking at my training que. Realizing , im not falling into the trap. I am not going to wait while skilling up.
So, tonight , i am going to log in, sell off some of the junk i have and take my 50mil isk and buy about 10 frigs.
Im going to fit them cheap, then, im going to hop into my frig and im going to find people and shoot them. I will shoot at anything that i fly across, i will start by doing it when i undock so i can learn what happens, i will then venture to system to system, learning things like scanning etc that i read about but never apply.
I am determined to annoy, harass, get lost in space and not sit in my hanger looking at my pve mission runners in high sec space.
So, if anyone wants to help me learn the ins and outs of pvp and what not tonight hit me up in game,
if any new players want to join me in being cannon fodder for a few hours tonight hit me up. i'll be starting my trial by fire learning experience tonight around 10 est.
I have had a hard time finding corps, learning, progressing in eve. I've read about 1,000 pages on eve and understand things, but without application i feel that i'll be intimidated by everyting beyond high sec.
i know its a cheesy post but this is going to be either a new beginning for me or a final hurrah in eve.
If you see me flying around and want to blow me up, or help me out with advice, or just follow me for lols, i am going to shoot at everything till i learn. |
Velicitia
Open Designs
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Posted - 2011.10.28 18:10:00 -
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^^ This guy gets it.
If you need ships, I'll gladly take your ISK |
tempus deathbringer
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.28 18:19:00 -
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hehe, i can fly rifters, gallente frigs. was cross training to fly a machariel and realized how long it was gonna take , it was kinda my que to start this.
if u can sell them to me reasonable and even suggest some cheap fittings that'd be nice, i've got around 10mil sp and im clueless , i will not resort to afk'ing in my domi on lvl 4's.
i want to find the guy who originally suggested i go that route and blow him up first. |
Opie Winston
Apogee Industrial
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Posted - 2011.10.28 18:33:00 -
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Have you tried the industry side of Eve, or only PvE? I've tried PvP, PvE, and industry, only to find out that I enjoy the industry side of Eve, and not so much the combat side. If you haven't tried industry, or are willing to give it another shot, contact me in game and we can figure out how to get you to enjoy the game, and then find a way to make you some isk. Hope to hear from you. Or you can stop by Apogee Public. |
Velicitia
Open Designs
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Posted - 2011.10.28 18:37:00 -
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fittings generally work out well like this:
hi --> guns mids --> AB, point lows --> DCU II, damage and or tank mods rigs --> helpful ... but not "cheap"
for specifics, I imagine the "Ships and Fittings" thread can help better than I...
tbh though, getting into a corp would probably help you out the most. |
tempus deathbringer
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.28 18:38:00 -
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i was on battleclinic looking at loadouts.
7mil at my 50ish mill budget is a bit high,
can any of you suggest a bit cheaper loadouts , im going to just be dying but i want the "chance" of blowing someone up.
http://eve.battleclinic.com/loadout/54565-Incursus-238-dps-OH-YEAH.html#values
Quote:Have you tried the industry side of Eve, or only PvE? I've tried PvP, PvE, and industry, only to find out that I enjoy the industry side of Eve, and not so much the combat side. If you haven't tried industry, or are willing to give it another shot, contact me in game and we can figure out how to get you to enjoy the game, and then find a way to make you some isk. Hope to hear from you. Or you can stop by Apogee Public
i dont even know where to begin in industry, alli know is that i built this domi character and i drop drones, and get bored out of my mind in mission running.
i'd rather steal people's loot and risk dying, or build stuff and sell , i just dont like ratting and lvl 4'ing for money but it's all i have ever known, and i almost got into the same rut again and i dont want to waste my $4.95 this month lol |
DeliciousHamBeast
The Concilium Enterprises Spectrum Alliance
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Posted - 2011.10.28 18:44:00 -
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tempus deathbringer wrote: It looks like it's just the scram making that 7 mil, would drop to 4 or so without I think (at least according to that eve central list of dubiousness).
You could always t1 fit too.
Edit: Just to be clear, DO fit a scram, just maybe a cheap one. -- Beep Beep Imma Jeep. |
Opie Winston
Apogee Industrial
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Posted - 2011.10.28 18:46:00 -
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We have the knowledge and ability to help you get started on your industry career. Manufacturing and such. Hit me up in game tonight. I'm usually on from 8 pm to 11pm ish Central. |
DeliciousHamBeast
The Concilium Enterprises Spectrum Alliance
138
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Posted - 2011.10.28 18:49:00 -
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Also if you're looking for an alternative isk source, it may be worth trying exploration. Can be dull, can be dangerous (Assuming you're not in highsec), and it can be damn profitable. The unpredictability is what draws me to it, and combined with manufacturing I make enough isk. -- Beep Beep Imma Jeep. |
Aida Nu
Nu Industries
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Posted - 2011.10.28 19:32:00 -
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@OP
Started out almost 3 weeks ago and did missions and stuff. Boring as hell. Couple of days ago i bought 10 kestrels, fitted them cheap and headed out to lowsec. So far ive had 2 glorious deaths! No kills yet but hopefully that will change
Check out this thread: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=26214
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tempus deathbringer
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.28 19:43:00 -
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Quote:Also if you're looking for an alternative isk source, it may be worth trying exploration. Can be dull, can be dangerous (Assuming you're not in highsec), and it can be damn profitable. The unpredictability is what draws me to it, and combined with manufacturing I make enough isk.
didnt even know there was an "exploration" profession really, i just thought exploring in eve was as simple as just getting lost.
i found a cheaper loadout, will probably do some variation of this one.
http://eve.battleclinic.com/loadout/39546-Cheap-pvp-incursus.html
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Velicitia
Open Designs
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Posted - 2011.10.28 19:52:00 -
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yeah, for exploration you will need:
1. Imicus (note, this is gallente, each race has a scanning frigate ... ) 2. Probe Launcher 3. Core Scanner Probes 4. Some luck 5. some guns and basic fitting on the ship to handle combat sites (Magnetometric) 6. Codebreaker and Analyser for doing hacking sites (IIRC, Radar) 7. Friends who want to mine in Gravimetric sites you find 8. Brass balls if you decide to go through that unstable wormhole you find. |
DeliciousHamBeast
The Concilium Enterprises Spectrum Alliance
138
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Posted - 2011.10.28 20:46:00 -
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tempus deathbringer wrote:Quote:Also if you're looking for an alternative isk source, it may be worth trying exploration. Can be dull, can be dangerous (Assuming you're not in highsec), and it can be damn profitable. The unpredictability is what draws me to it, and combined with manufacturing I make enough isk. didnt even know there was an "exploration" profession really, i just thought exploring in eve was as simple as just getting lost. i found a cheaper loadout, will probably do some variation of this one. http://eve.battleclinic.com/loadout/39546-Cheap-pvp-incursus.html
As Velicitia said, exploration mostly just requires scanning probes and some luck. There are some ships that are capable of finding and running radar/mag sites on their own - I used to do this in lowsec with a cloaky arbitrator (whole fit was ~10mil isk, mail me if you're curious). You'll need reasonably good scanning skills (astrometrics et al.) and maybe even an implant to successfully scan down some of the sites though, since these ships don't get the scanning bonus.
Check it, peep exploration wiki entry.
Best of luck on your pewpew adventures.
-- Beep Beep Imma Jeep. |
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Industrial Complex Cosmic Consortium
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Posted - 2011.10.28 21:20:00 -
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Make sure you check out Red Vs Blue! |
Zeratul Kerrigan
Dark Tempest Enterprises
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Posted - 2011.10.29 19:45:00 -
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Heya mate. If you're looking for someone to PvP with. I will gladly join you. Contact me and we can go :) nice attitude, keep that attitude and you will go far my friend! |
darmwand
Repo.
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Posted - 2011.10.29 20:31:00 -
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Hi!
I was in a very similar situation a couple of months ago, bored to death by droneboating through missions. I joined a low-sec piracy corp that explicitly recruits inexperienced players and teaches them the fine art of killing stuff in low-sec (or piracy, as some might call it).
If you think this might be something for you, rather than starting your own thing, feel free to drop me a note in game and I'll tell you more. If not, I'm looking forward to seeing you on the other end of my blasters. Either way, I'm sure you won't regret your decision to abandon your career as a mission-runner and instead enjoy ruining your security status. darmwand Repossession Agent http://www.repo-corp.net/ Recruitment is OPEN |
tempus deathbringer
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.31 16:10:00 -
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so an update.
friday was a bit rough in terms of getting it done. As soon as i logged in , i got quite a few chat messages and about 4 or 5 people wanting me to join their corp.
i may have come off as standoffish because everytime i've played i've been in "new" or "small" corps where i end up soloing. So if i seemed a little annoyed after asking the question and leaving at the response it's nothing personal just that i dont want to rely on 2 people to log in to have fun.
So after a while i figured if i chatted to much i'd never get anything done and im not playing aol IM i was determined to blow stuff up.
i bought 5 incursus fit them with all t1 stuff etc. i spent a few minutes trying to learn the map, fit my ship using the link i provided.
i undocked and flew to perimiter, 1.0 sec. i warped to an asteroid belt. i saw some guy afk in an osprey.
locked target, orbited at 500m, launched drones, and unloaded fire.
it was very shortlived as concord game and popped me in a few seconds. So, i took my pod back to jita, docked and started reading again. i fit another ship and looked for low sec space. I really had a hard time finding anything, as i don't know how to scan and i don't really know what im doing.
the realization that hit me after talkign to people is that this really isnt as open ended as people say. Or i may be wrong but im assuming in low sec, your really only going to find people experienced in pvp, so going there as a noob is just a deathwish.
i nearly died about 20 times as i gated through in low sec .
tonight, i have a bit more time as i had to put some serious hours into work this past weekend. Im going to head back out to low sec and try again.
one funny story was , one of the corps inquring about joining hitme up.
I was in voice but they didnt know so as i typed responses to their questions, it finally boiled down to me saying.
"listen guys, when i say new, i mean, here i my knowledge. I have guns to draw aggro, i dont even know what those guns are useful for, i dont use them to shoot anything, in fact i dont know the difference between a railgun and a autocannon. I warp into mission, fire guns, drop drones and then loot. That is the extent of my eve knowledge."
i really wanted to get a point across that i've been playing this game from the wrong perspective and that , i would need my hand held for quit ea while.
a few seconds later one of the guys says in chat "i think we gotta throw this fish back in the pond" . |
Velicitia
Open Designs
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Posted - 2011.10.31 16:43:00 -
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You're right in that lowsec is generally "home" to people more experienced in PVP (as there's no CONCORD, you need to know how to fight to survive). However, that isn't to say that you don't have a chance of catching another newer player who is trying to do the same thing as you.
if you "nearly" died twenty times (I'm assuming that was with one ship) -- you got away from a bad situation twenty times. Take the small victories when you can. Some of the easiest ways to find a fight in lowsec are: 1. the gates (i.e. someone else's gatecamp) 2. check out the belts (make it look like you're ratting in a PVE fit ship) 3. look weaker than you are (note, this may fail as the other guy may take you as bait for a hotdrop) 4. learn to probe and use the Dscan to find people. |
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GM Spiral
Game Masters C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2011.10.31 16:43:00 -
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Nice to see someone take the red pill.
As someone may have mentioned above, search for a corporation that takes in inexperienced players. Having a good support structure around you when you inevitably lose your stuff (again and again) is invaluable. Plus, there are some genuinely nice and entertaining people out there worth talking to and learning from.
I used to root around the Molden Heath low sec areas now and then. years ago, but I am too old for that now. Senior Game Master | EVE Online Customer Support Team | Info Group | CCP Games
Helping capsuleers since 2004. |
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tempus deathbringer
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.31 16:55:00 -
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Quote:4. learn to probe and use the Dscan to find people.
this is going to be my goal when i get in game tonight.
I fit the other ships i bought friday. Today my goal is to find some pvp in low sec.
I would like to find a corp, but im wary as i've always rejoined and gotten into very small corps. The eventuality turned into me drone afk'ing. If people do have suggestions on any large pvp corps willing to take a unskilled but quick learning pilot feel free to drop a plug for them.
the other thing is that , isk will be hard to come by as i've read that in pvp life you take huge hits to status making it hard to really do anything of value and pirating is very hit or miss in making money.
i have another character on another account, was thinking of just making an exploration character, then trying industry if i dont like moving on down the road trying the money makers other than missioning.
Is it possible to make enough isk as a new player to support my sub? the resub is only 4.95 so no biggy but i'd like to make the money to afford to pay for my account within the first month. |
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Jaxemont
Look At This Amazing Bullet
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Posted - 2011.10.31 17:44:00 -
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It sounds like lowsec might not be the right fit for you. With low experience and T1 fits, viable targets are slim. And if you shoot everything you see, you'll end up dying 95% of the time without learning much. You'll need T2 fits if you want to actually kill someone competent.
Is there a reason you don't look at Red v Blue? The great thing about RvB is that you don't have to worry about sec status or getting podded. There are also a lot of low SP chars flying around T1 fits learning too, so there will probably be more viable targets in RvB. Then once you get a handle on combat mechanics and fittings, you can go to lowsec to work on hunting/dscan skills. (If that's your fancy.) |
Velicitia
Open Designs
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Posted - 2011.10.31 17:59:00 -
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tempus deathbringer wrote:Quote:4. learn to probe and use the Dscan to find people. this is going to be my goal when i get in game tonight. I fit the other ships i bought friday. Today my goal is to find some pvp in low sec. I would like to find a corp, but im wary as i've always rejoined and gotten into very small corps. The eventuality turned into me drone afk'ing. If people do have suggestions on any large pvp corps willing to take a unskilled but quick learning pilot feel free to drop a plug for them. the other thing is that , isk will be hard to come by as i've read that in pvp life you take huge hits to status making it hard to really do anything of value and pirating is very hit or miss in making money. i have another character on another account, was thinking of just making an exploration character, then trying industry if i dont like moving on down the road trying the money makers other than missioning. Is it possible to make enough isk as a new player to support my sub? the resub is only 4.95 so no biggy but i'd like to make the money to afford to pay for my account within the first month.
unless you get really lucky on a kill (i.e. someone was taking some EXPENSIVE shinies through somewhere and you have the good fortune to scoop them after killing the guy), you're not going to be able to pay for your account at all with ISK for the first few months of gameplay. full stop, end of story.
if you get "good" at piracy, you can always start ransoming the other guy --> if you start doing this ALWAYS honour the ransom (your name will get around). All it takes is one instance of not honouring the ransom, and people willing to pay will quickly dry up. |
Uppsy Daisy
Deteis Industries
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Posted - 2011.10.31 20:05:00 -
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Its such a shame that there is no easier method for new players like this to get into pvp, which lets face it is where the real fun is.
Factional Warfare should be this place.
All they need is:
1) a proper way of limiting fights so that newbies can contribute properly.
(They tried to do this with small plexes but messed it up by allowing faction frigates in)
2) A way of this pvp to generate enough isk to be self- sustaining.
It really cant be that hard..... can it? |
tempus deathbringer
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.11.02 02:12:00 -
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the more i read about exploration the more interesting it sounds?
can it be dangerous? ie can you explore in low sec with higher reward? |
Bleys Breighter
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.11.02 04:38:00 -
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The more dangerous the space, the better the exploration rewards. I know young players who became billionaires thanks to some luck and lowsec exploration. One thing worth noting is that the income is not steady. |
Xi 'xar
Mise en Abyme
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Posted - 2011.11.02 08:48:00 -
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Hey Tempus,
Your attitude to the monotony of highsec mission running and not knowing what the heck you are doing is an excellent start!
I know you have said that you have read an endless amount of material, but re: getting into lowsec, killing stuff and doing some basic and reasonably profitable lowsec exploration - check my signature for links to sets of brief information which you might find useful as a starting point. In addition, I would really suggest checking youtube for d-scan guides and the like - nothing like seeing it in action and then trying it for yourself to learn.
Please ignore the people above who say that with a T1 fit frigate and low skills you cannot solo-kill anyone. Firstly its a load of rubbish and secondly even if you die continuously how are you ever going to learn the necessary skills to killing people without jumping in the deep end? T2 mods and 100 mil SP doesn't make a good pilot. Experience does.
Don't be afraid of the fish in the sharkpool.
If you end up in the metropolis area during GMT timezone, give me a shout.
http://reduplication.wordpress.com/category/explore-low-sec/
http://reduplication.wordpress.com/category/live-low-sec/
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tempus deathbringer
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.11.02 15:04:00 -
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thank you for the links.
I am going to try to begin a low sec exploration career i beleive. I hav two accounts. it was 4.95 for the renewal.
i am a bit baffled on which character to advance in a life of exploration and crime though.
my main has always been
http://eveboard.com/pilot/tempus_deathbringer
i also have my alt
http://eveboard.com/pilot/taconight
i resubbed the alt since it was my salvager before and actually ahd a substantial amount of isk on it.
The hard part i have atm is , hwo simple my understanding is. It's really quite time consuming to plan out a route, of where im going and what im going to do, fit ships etc. The corps that i have been invited to have all been really great people but very small. I tried rvb last time i subbed and it really just felt like a cluster of people shooting eachother in frigs. I could give it a whirl again but i felt like playing with people in voice chat would really progress me alot quicker through the game as opposed to team deathmatch in red vs blue. I'd like to pvp for a purpose , and also learn strategies as well.
my hardest part now is to get motivated, when i log in i seem to get distracted from the goal, with skills, fitting, the am i redy for this, where do i go, how do i do it type stuff.
im going to try to do some low sec roaming and exploration tonight, following the 900 pages of guides i've read. |
darmwand
Repo.
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Posted - 2011.11.02 15:24:00 -
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Quote:I am going to try to begin a low sec exploration career i beleive
Hey, glad you found something that sounds interesting to you! I hope this is going to be less boring that running missions.
Just watch out when you're in low-sec, apparently there are pirates around darmwand Repossession Agent http://www.repo-corp.net/ Recruitment is OPEN |
tempus deathbringer
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.11.02 15:39:00 -
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thanks for the help in chat as well darm, i appreciate you taking the time.
I am not sold on exploration, i havent even tried it, my main goal is still to pew pew some people in low sec and do some pirating, roaming etc.
i just found the mail button , so thank you guys for all the replies so far. The forums themselves have been giving me a nudge in my arse to get moving and i appreciate it. |
WarFireV
The Maverick Navy Against ALL Authorities
4
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Posted - 2011.11.03 13:57:00 -
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Screw lowsec, it is a barren waste land. Look into NPC nullsec. Curse, Syndicate, or Venal are all good. |
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