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Axton Kashuken
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.08.09 21:25:00 -
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As an aspiring industrialist, I have reached a key point in my life. I must decide whether I should train PE 5 or mass production 5. If I train PE 5, I obviously get substantially better profits. But if I train mass production, I get more manufacturing slots. As experienced industrialists, what would you guys recommend? |
Gianath
Gallentian Legitimate Businessmen
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Posted - 2013.08.09 21:46:00 -
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Axton Kashuken wrote:As an aspiring industrialist, I have reached a key point in my life. I must decide whether I should train PE 5 or mass production 5. If I train PE 5, I obviously get substantially better profits. But if I train mass production, I get more manufacturing slots. As experienced industrialists, what would you guys recommend?
Both?
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Lambert Simnel
PWLS Enterprises
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Posted - 2013.08.09 22:06:00 -
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Both. Then Advanced Mass Production to 4. Then repeat with at least three more alts. |
Axton Kashuken
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.08.09 22:13:00 -
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Lambert Simnel wrote:Both. Then Advanced Mass Production to 4. Then repeat with at least three more alts.
I meant which one to train first, sorry for not specifying. Of course both must be trained in due time. |
Eliram Kahoudi
Big Red Rabbits
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Posted - 2013.08.09 22:26:00 -
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its like 10 days for both not really something that matters tha tmuch but really PE5 first is worth it to me. also 3 more alts is a good idea. i run 5 personally |
Thur Barbek
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.08.10 08:22:00 -
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Production Efficiency lets you compete with 90% of the galaxy and use less resources
Mass production V lets you waste more isk making stuff at PE IV.
you decide. |
Barzai Mekhar
EON Experiments
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Posted - 2013.08.10 11:27:00 -
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Depends on what you're building. For some T2 items PE has little to no effect (Hobgoblin II's will require the same components at level 4 and 5), so if you focus on these items I'd prioritize Mass Production V (and Advanced MP after that) over PE V.
It's a close call for most T2 items - if you produce T2 frigs like stealthbombers you pay around 600.000 ISK more per ship, reducing your profit by 20-40%; however in the time it takes to bring PE to V you could alternatively bring Mass Production to V and Advanced Mass Production to IV - effectively doubling your number of production slots, so that even at 80% of the PEV profit rate you'd be making a total profit of 160%.... In the end you should fire up IPH (Isk per hour) and calculate the difference if you want to be certain of making the "best" decision.
On the other hand if you produce T1 items pick PE V. |
Chic Botany
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.08.10 20:27:00 -
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I wouldn't bother with Adv mass prod V unless I had a very specialised build alt with high levels of required skills, that extra level takes too long for 1 extra slot :)
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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
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Posted - 2013.08.10 21:37:00 -
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Chic Botany wrote:I wouldn't bother with Adv mass prod V unless I had a very specialised build alt with high levels of required skills, that extra level takes too long for 1 extra slot :)
You can train another alt for 10 slots in about the time it takes to train for the 11th slot.
For all skills, training level 4 takes 17% of the training time of level 5. |
Xurr
Angelic Insurrection Corp
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Posted - 2013.08.11 01:52:00 -
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Tau Cabalander wrote:Chic Botany wrote:I wouldn't bother with Adv mass prod V unless I had a very specialised build alt with high levels of required skills, that extra level takes too long for 1 extra slot :)
You can train another alt for 10 slots in about the time it takes to train for the 11th slot. For all skills, training level 4 takes 17% of the training time of level 5.
Until they need some sort of skill science skill. Or mechanics skill.
It isn't right for everyone sure but the argument that you can just train another toon has some flaws. |
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