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Les Thul
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Posted - 2006.01.03 05:25:00 -
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I believe the system to be random "enough"...
No matter what you decide is the correct way to run the techII BPO lottery there will be people who don't like the way its run.
I have been in the R&D fields for quite some time and have my 5 agents spread across all lvl 4's in amarr starship and nanite. At the same time I started with another account/character with a couple of lvl 2 agents just to get her hands in the game while I worked on the other character first. My main R&D agent so far has come up with nothing and the new lower lvl runner recently picked up a Paradise Fury Cruise missile BPO with 3600Rp's. I don't see anything wrong with it... just because one character has more RP's in that field doesn't give them the right to expect anything. Its a lottery you all knew that from the get go. Most people who enter into a lottery weekly in normal life never walk away with anything. Why because its a game do you expect something from a lottery. I got my characters in the R&D fields to get my hands in the game.. cause you have to be in it to win it. I never expected to win anything.. I am just getting them setup in R&D so they can have the best chances "as I see it" and then they will move onto more real and acertainable goals in the game like production etc.
Also in real life statistically speaking if you have won lotto you tend to have better chances at winning again. I'm not an expert on that but its something that I have heard and seen happen.
I see the system as being ok for what it really is.... a lottery. When you buy a lotto ticket do you expect to win and then get upset and call the local lottery board to complain that they rigged it... NO.. the others that I know of who have won starship BPO's have all had hundreds of thousands to millions of RP's and been in the game since R&D came out... I hold no animosity towards them for being in the game and waiting paitently for their possible prize.
They also don't log in each day now that RMR is out expecting to get another BPO... they log in play the game and do what they want to do. If a BPO offer comes along its a bonus.. NOT AN EXPECTATION.
The only change I'd suggest is maybe a few limited run BPC's as loot drops or agent rewards.. but you will find that would be complained about also as that spot where the spawns happen would be fiercly contested and camped and farmed.. so more complaining would happen or the chances of getting the agent offer would be complained about because everyone would have the LP's up to that level and nothing more in the hope of getting something.. and then complain when they still didn't.
Just get on with the game if you get a BPO great use it and make your money if you choose... there are plenty of people out there will billions of ISK that have had nothing to do with the TECH II BPO lottery and don't intend on getting involved...
The other way to get involved in the techII area is try and join a corp/alliance that produces techII items, this will give you access to reduced prices on some items and a feel for what is actually involved in producing them. Plus you might also share in the spoils of the BPO market by helping with production.. Who knows its a game of opportunity.. one thing that people lack sometimes is the ability to adapt to change. EVE is constantly changing accept it and adapt. Don't rely on a techII bpo lottery to make your billions of isk.. If you did that in real life you'd be dead by now... no food, no job and no house plus everything else life has to offer.
Enjoy EVE for what it is... A GAME...
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Dreez
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Posted - 2006.01.07 21:05:00 -
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Originally by: franny ways to help 1) completely revamp the lotto, so it is actually random
2) add T2 bpc's to agent offers/storylines
3) lower the times to copy/build
4) shoot the orginal designer of the T2 lotto
/Signed. Number 4 most !!.
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Swaffer
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Posted - 2006.01.10 03:08:00 -
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well i've only had one offer:-
2005.12.20 12:38 Our research has been fruitful. If you're interested, I believe we could have a patentable HULK Blueprint. Contact me as soon as possible if you're interested.
this is the only offer i have ever had, and i had my Level 1 RD agent for 2 years, had 70,000LP. I'm a jammy sod. So even though the lottery is annoying it does work.
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Kal'rek
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Posted - 2006.01.10 05:17:00 -
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Congrats m8,
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Chepe Nolon
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Posted - 2006.01.10 21:50:00 -
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A corp mate of me (who is quitting btw) got two ammo bpo's in a row. He hasn't got jack **** since R&D agents was introduced.
He wondered if it was CCP's last stand to get him back into the game ;)
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Ricdic
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Posted - 2006.01.11 07:12:00 -
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Last week I complained about the T2 lottery
This week I got my first BPO
While it is only a Thorn Javelin Rocket BPO , at least it is something. My research char only had 2 r&d agents, and both were low-qual level 1's. He got the agents about 6 months ago but never bothered running the missions.
At barely 600 rp, he snatched up the bpo.
So all my previous complaints in other threads and the like I would like to rescind. One is just fine for me, and sympathies for those of you who's research agents havent sent this evemail:
2006.01.06 14:39 Our research has been fruitful. If you're interested, I believe we could have a patentable Thorn Javelin Rocket Blueprint. Contact me as soon as possible if you're interested.
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Madscotsman
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Posted - 2006.01.11 13:55:00 -
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I have a question regarding the BPOs. This is not a complaint about the system.
My agent still says she has predictable patents (Gallente Starships)....does this mean that I still have a chance of getting a BPO? Have the people that have been offered just not accepted them?
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Yu Lee
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Posted - 2006.01.12 05:14:00 -
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Since I started EVE I decided to work my char on science. You know... I didn¦t got any BPO from any of my LVl2 or Lvl 3 agents. I changed some to LVl 3 to see if it will gets better, but I¦m tired to see the other players to have fun with the fighting chars and me only on the run for nothing... It¦s kind of boring... like doing mining or other things to do something in the game instead of doing what I decided to do first on the start of eve...
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Chepe Nolon
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Posted - 2006.01.12 19:48:00 -
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Originally by: Madscotsman I have a question regarding the BPOs. This is not a complaint about the system.
My agent still says she has predictable patents (Gallente Starships)....does this mean that I still have a chance of getting a BPO? Have the people that have been offered just not accepted them?
As long as there are bpos's in the seeding queue, you will see that under predictable patents. If you miss out on them, you won't stop producing RP's while waiting for the next seeding.
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RacerX1
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Posted - 2006.01.12 21:47:00 -
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gotta question, I've had my RD agent in galle starship for a couple days over 2 years now, right around 154k RP points, I'm just curious how often ship BPO's are actually seeded to the agents and how often they actually give them out, do they seed ship bpo's to all agents around the same time frame? The agent was completly out of bpo's but since RMR has a nice new full slate of them. Since the new ships are already going out I'm hopin I'll finally snag one, I think 2 years is a long enough wait, just wondering if I should pay more attention around the time others seem to be getting offers and bpo's.
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zack666
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Posted - 2006.01.16 17:25:00 -
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I have just over 500k points with 5 R&D agents..............and not a single offer
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Mack Dorgeans
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Posted - 2006.01.16 19:58:00 -
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It's all pure luck and chance. I won what I think was the first Astarte BPO on Dec. 20, 2005. The agent was an L3 I had not done missions for in over a year, but had built up about 95,000 research points.
For ships in particular, I don't really trust the available prints list, because all three of the ships I've won (Basilisk, Nemesis, Astarte) came from the corps listed as their original designer (Lai Dai, Duvolle, Duvolle).
If I were just starting out right now with starship R&D, I'd go for corps that are listed as designers of the currently available BPOs. In other words, for Caldari you probably don't want to use Lai Dai, but rather Ishukone and Kaalakiota, since there are no Lai Dai designs in the current crop. I can't say for sure it matters, but based on my personal experience, that would be my guess.
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Ebil PieRat
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Posted - 2006.01.16 21:43:00 -
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Our research has been fruitful. If you're interested, I believe we could have a patentable Sleipnir Blueprint. Contact me as soon as possible if you're interested.
Took me nearly 2 years and 200k rp's but i stuck gold yesterday.
Keep hoping guy's
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Rift lance
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Posted - 2006.01.17 12:46:00 -
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Originally by: Ebil PieRat Our research has been fruitful. If you're interested, I believe we could have a patentable Sleipnir Blueprint. Contact me as soon as possible if you're interested.
Took me nearly 2 years and 200k rp's but i stuck gold yesterday.
Keep hoping guy's
You have waited a long time for it so Congratz
I got 3 lvl4 agents and one lvl1 and over 100k RPs and I do missions for them at least 2 times every month just so they don't forget me ... think they have thou, no BPO for this muppet ..... yet -------------- [a niffty sig] |
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