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HUGO DRAX
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Posted - 2005.12.19 00:02:00 -
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ie A pops B's ship and B transfer the kill rights to C?
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Sentani
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Posted - 2005.12.19 00:07:00 -
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if it was... then a market would evolve in a few days i can tell you that
and a new profesion ____________ The cargo bay is overloaded and cannot be made to fit Expanded Cargohold I. It is currently only capable of fitting 8772.12 units and it is currently jammed full with 9558.33 units. |
HUGO DRAX
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Posted - 2005.12.19 00:17:00 -
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Well I heard its not transferable. makes no sense.
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Asier
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Posted - 2005.12.19 00:31:00 -
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I will jump in and say /signed here, as this would be a fascinating market, with much movement of isk... and a good hunt :)
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Rexthor Hammerfists
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Posted - 2005.12.19 00:43:00 -
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Edited by: Rexthor Hammerfists on 19/12/2005 00:43:31 a great idea imo
that combined with a implemented market system would pwn
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HUGO DRAX
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Posted - 2005.12.19 01:02:00 -
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would add a great addition to game play. I was also thinking something like a new missions tab for eye for an eye where you can put the contracts on the market and if the price is right folks can take it and recieve payment when the target has been dispatched. it would be like adding player based missions :)
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Spartan III
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Posted - 2005.12.19 01:59:00 -
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Originally by: HUGO DRAX would add a great addition to game play. I was also thinking something like a new missions tab for eye for an eye where you can put the contracts on the market and if the price is right folks can take it and recieve payment when the target has been dispatched. it would be like adding player based missions :)
Signed and Signed :)
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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2005.12.19 02:13:00 -
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Originally by: Sentani if it was... then a market would evolve in a few days i can tell you that
and a new profesion
*\o/*
bounty hunting 4tw. ----------------
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Darpz
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Posted - 2005.12.19 02:22:00 -
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what way would the money flow? would the person getting the kill rights pay or would the person transerfering the kill rights pay? I can think of reasons on both sides
Originally by: TomB
Originally by: Darpz
Originally by: Sobeseki Pawi CCP will nerf this probably, but hey, worth a try
so your saying I should of kept my mouth shut?
Yup.
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Kelron Queldine
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Posted - 2005.12.19 02:57:00 -
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I think that would be up to the person with the kill rights initially. If they had the kill rights for someone and the knew someone else who wanted them, they could probably sell them. However, if they had kill rights for someone but didn't have the resources to kill them themselves, they could pay someone else to do it for them. But I think it would have too many potential exploits to be implemented.
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vile56
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Posted - 2005.12.19 03:20:00 -
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i fail to see exploits someone gets killed pays to have him killed not much of a flux there well walk up to her with your pants down and if she runs away it was never meant to be. |
HUGO DRAX
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Posted - 2005.12.19 03:27:00 -
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lol no they way it works is you post the eye for an eye contract on an ingame mission board, similar to courier jobs. but when you post it the amount goes out of your bank account and is in escrow with the contract. when the bounty hunter completes this, the money is released to the hunter.
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fmercury
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Posted - 2005.12.19 05:54:00 -
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Edited by: fmercury on 19/12/2005 05:54:08 Exploitable as all hell.
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Walok
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Posted - 2005.12.19 06:46:00 -
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I'd love to see a market place for these things! Gives people the chance to find who they're looking for easily, and for others to buy back the rights to kill aswell.
Originally by: fmercury Edited by: fmercury on 19/12/2005 05:54:08 Exploitable as all hell.
Oh really? Enlighten us.
- Walok
Quote: I kill people. (and make signatures for 10mil ISK, EVE-Mail me.)
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Meryl Stryfe
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Posted - 2005.12.19 08:50:00 -
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Edited by: Meryl Stryfe on 19/12/2005 08:50:38 Edit: speeling
Originally by: Walok Oh really? Enlighten us.
1) Pirate pods carebear 2) Carebear posts eye-for-eye contract 3) Pirate/pirate's friend takes eye-for-eye contract 4) Pirate/pirate's friend pods pirate 5) Carebear is robbed twice
Same as bounties now, but now the victim loses kill rights and the contract price. Mix in jump clones, and you avoid the implant issue (if the pirate is silly that way).
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Chimeny Christmas
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Posted - 2005.12.19 09:00:00 -
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Aslong as every pirate has a carebear alt (and every one of them I know does) It would never work, for the reasons the poster above me stated.
Alts ruin a lot of potential features in a game like this, sucks.
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Brastagi
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Posted - 2005.12.19 09:25:00 -
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Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Originally by: Sentani if it was... then a market would evolve in a few days i can tell you that
and a new profesion
*\o/*
bounty hunting 4tw.
No no... I'm thinking more like Hitman profession.... not bounty hunter. --------- Watch me gravitate Ha ha ha ha ha....
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Sentani
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Posted - 2005.12.19 09:37:00 -
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Originally by: Brastagi
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Originally by: Sentani if it was... then a market would evolve in a few days i can tell you that
and a new profesion
*\o/*
bounty hunting 4tw.
No no... I'm thinking more like Hitman profession.... not bounty hunter.
i was thinking more of provocer...
a bounty hunter dosnt go out and get the criminal to do a crime and the book him...
you just **** someone off so much that they kill your ship... then you sell the rightes to someones that wants to kill the guy you ****ed off... ____________ The cargo bay is overloaded and cannot be made to fit Expanded Cargohold I. It is currently only capable of fitting 8772.12 units and it is currently jammed full with 9558.33 units. |
Walok
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Posted - 2005.12.19 10:31:00 -
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Originally by: Meryl Stryfe Edited by: Meryl Stryfe on 19/12/2005 08:50:38 Edit: speeling
Originally by: Walok Oh really? Enlighten us.
1) Pirate pods carebear 2) Carebear posts eye-for-eye contract 3) Pirate/pirate's friend takes eye-for-eye contract 4) Pirate/pirate's friend pods pirate 5) Carebear is robbed twice
Same as bounties now, but now the victim loses kill rights and the contract price. Mix in jump clones, and you avoid the implant issue (if the pirate is silly that way).
So you're saying the carebear loses again because the alt/friend has to:
1. Buy the kill rights off the carebear 2. Pod his pirate friend (implants/clones)
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I really don't see where you're coming from yet.
- Walok
Quote: I kill people. (and make signatures for 10mil ISK, EVE-Mail me.)
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wierchas noobhunter
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Posted - 2005.12.19 10:34:00 -
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Originally by: HUGO DRAX would add a great addition to game play. I was also thinking something like a new missions tab for eye for an eye where you can put the contracts on the market and if the price is right folks can take it and recieve payment when the target has been dispatched. it would be like adding player based missions :)
yeah realy cool idea Signed
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ian666
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Posted - 2005.12.19 10:58:00 -
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Signed ....
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Dryxonedes Sae
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Posted - 2005.12.19 12:12:00 -
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Given kill rights are formed from the ship kill (aswell), do they only disappear on podkill? Surely pod for ship doesn't really = eye 4 an eye... Life sucks, get a #'n helmet. -Denis Leary |
ZelRox
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Posted - 2005.12.19 13:13:00 -
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I think this should be solved with addition of contracts, but yes, sounds cool. Like a Wanted poster :) Receiving a killmail of wanted person, triggers the resolution of contract, where the amount is deducted from the "customers" account. ----------------------
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Miyamoto Uroki
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Posted - 2005.12.19 21:53:00 -
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hmmm. sounds exploitable, but maybe ccp should think about it. Someone please post that in idea discussion forum.
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Malthros Zenobia
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Posted - 2005.12.19 22:02:00 -
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Originally by: HUGO DRAX ie A pops B's ship and B transfer the kill rights to C?
No, because you'd have alts giving kill rights to their mains or friends and they'd go gank the poor sap. Imagine someone steals your ore, so you pop them, then the next day they come back on their main and pod you because their orethief alt gave kill rights to their 20mil sp main.
Greifing would become so commonplace and the 'market' would be abused heavily.
Plus you'd probably have farmers selling kill rights for even more money.
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vile56
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Posted - 2005.12.19 23:06:00 -
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well people are exploiting mineing. So in theory we should get rid of mineing. people exploit escrow ban that. people exploit pos ban.
(insert anything u want )ban it well walk up to her with your pants down and if she runs away it was never meant to be. |
Elandra Starfall
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Posted - 2005.12.20 00:26:00 -
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Totaly agree with Malthros, would be to insecure. And yes, alts alsways have ruined every mmo's intended gameplay, not much you can do about that ... no alts anymore?! ... no more trading/transactions between alts(i'll get a friend to do it then)?! ... Imo flagging doesn't have to change and works just fine atm.
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HUGO DRAX
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Posted - 2005.12.20 03:11:00 -
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Originally by: Meryl Stryfe Edited by: Meryl Stryfe on 19/12/2005 08:50:38 Edit: speeling
Originally by: Walok Oh really? Enlighten us.
1) Pirate pods carebear 2) Carebear posts eye-for-eye contract 3) Pirate/pirate's friend takes eye-for-eye contract 4) Pirate/pirate's friend pods pirate 5) Carebear is robbed twice
Same as bounties now, but now the victim loses kill rights and the contract price. Mix in jump clones, and you avoid the implant issue (if the pirate is silly that way).
Simple make it only work with the following people
allow the person to review the person taking the contract and they can decide to decline the transfer if they notice the person is in a NPC corp or low sec status etc.. Dont just complain, do something. Channel macrointel meet with likeminded folks, spottings,intel |
HUGO DRAX
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Posted - 2005.12.20 03:15:00 -
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Originally by: Chimeny Christmas Aslong as every pirate has a carebear alt (and every one of them I know does) It would never work, for the reasons the poster above me stated.
Alts ruin a lot of potential features in a game like this, sucks.
assuming the alt gets to it before a proper merc does or the user decides to transfer it directly to someone else, or if they add the feature to allow the user to review the person taking to contract from the pool before releasing it. Dont just complain, do something. Channel macrointel meet with likeminded folks, spottings,intel |
HUGO DRAX
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Posted - 2005.12.20 03:16:00 -
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Originally by: Dryxonedes Sae Given kill rights are formed from the ship kill (aswell), do they only disappear on podkill? Surely pod for ship doesn't really = eye 4 an eye...
Make it pod kill so
#1 keep losing ships #2 take it like a man and let them take the final blow and send you back to the clonebay. Dont just complain, do something. Channel macrointel meet with likeminded folks, spottings,intel |
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