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Jamie Haginen
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.07.17 07:33:00 -
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So there i was suspect baiting in dodixie, suddenly this amarr fw pilot warps in and starts to snipe gallente militia pilots for over half an hour without interference from faction navy. I have heard of this tactic before but unsure if it has been fixed or just rumor. I did some searching on the web but came up empty. I will reward the person who can show me the same tactic the amarr pilot used to kill opposing faction without being attacked by faction navy. The reward will be 1 billion isk since it seems to be a guarded secret, a handsome reward should be sufficient. To save some people some time, i found out from my search on the web that it is not high standings so that suggestion is out. If you are sure you know the tactic, evemail it to me rather than posting here. I will give the reward after the said tactic has been verified by me. We can also get 3rd party grendell/chribba if preferred. |
Sean Parisi
Fugutive Task Force A T O N E M E N T
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Posted - 2013.07.17 10:23:00 -
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If you send Sean Parisi money the Faction Police refuse to attack you. |
ALUCARD 1208
Spiritus Draconis Sicarius Draconis
196
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Posted - 2013.07.17 10:37:00 -
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1bil and handsome reward in same sentence lol guess this post will go the way of the 20 others asking the same question ;) GÖÑ HIGH FIVES GÖÑ-á |
Jamie Haginen
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.07.17 16:26:00 -
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updated the reward. the mails i have received does not have merit. verify with me first to see if it has been suggested. |
Berluth Luthian
Meltdown.
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Posted - 2013.07.17 16:44:00 -
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Was his name trigger99? |
Cyberin
Crimson Serpent Syndicate
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Posted - 2013.07.17 21:01:00 -
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first you have to _____, then you have to _____. Simple as that. Please send ISK. |
Evangelina Nolen
Sama Guild
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Posted - 2013.07.18 03:13:00 -
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How sure are you he wasn't getting hit by navy? He might have had like 4 logi's keeping him up. |
Andre Vauban
Quantum Cats Syndicate Samurai Pizza Cats
120
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Posted - 2013.07.18 03:22:00 -
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I don't know the details, but it goes something like this. The navy only spawns for the first N pilots in system, which I think is 12 or 15 spawns.
One method is to jump 12 or 15 mwd ships Into system that are faster than the navy and just permanent burn away from them. Every new FW member in system won't get a spawn.
Another method involves transferring the navy aggro to other ships. You can transfer the aggro to neutral logi ships who can perma tank the navy. At one point, you could take the navy aggro ship and park it in a friendly pos and the navy would just sit outside doing nothing ( I think this was fixed so the navy will now shoot through pos shields). Once you get the N navy spawns transferred to ship(s) that can perma tank, you now have free reign in the system.
Go play around on Sisi with a bunch of corp mates and you can figure it out.
There are people in FW that specialize in this. I assume you got killed by The Arrow Project. They are very good at highsec FW ganking. QCATS is recruiting: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=146180 |
IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome
480
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Posted - 2013.07.18 07:16:00 -
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Sean Parisi wrote:If you send Sean Parisi money the Faction Police refuse to attack you.
^^ Confirmed. Fix this **** See Sea Pea. |
Jack Morrison
Sinister Spinster
7
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Posted - 2013.07.18 08:47:00 -
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Smells like an exploit to me. |
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ALUCARD 1208
Spiritus Draconis Sicarius Draconis
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Posted - 2013.07.18 11:31:00 -
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Jack Morrison wrote:Smells like an exploit to me.
Nope but nice try GÖÑ HIGH FIVES GÖÑ-á |
Killer2
The Arrow Project
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Posted - 2013.07.26 12:46:00 -
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Andre Vauban wrote:There are people in FW that specialize in this. I assume you got killed by The Arrow Project. They are very good at highsec FW ganking.
Please send me the 3 billion ISK and I will reveal our secrets.
Killer2 Chief Executive Officer The Arrow Project
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William Walker
House Aratus Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2013.07.26 13:04:00 -
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I hold the secrets. Send me half now, I'll tell you half the secret. Send the other half, and you get the full secret. PM me ingame. pâ+(*GîÆGêçGîÆ*)n+ë pü+(pé£GêçpÇü-¦)pü+ (GùòGÇ+GùòG£+) |
Tiberius Mal
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
12
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Posted - 2013.07.27 02:25:00 -
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he's talking about FW pilots sitting in HS systems of the opposing faction?
doesn't it just take +5 faction standing with the opposing faction for the navy to leave you alone?
Example: I have +5 standings with Minmatar. I join Amarr FW. I can park outside Hek in Minmatar space as an Amarr FW pilot and Minmatar faction police don't come after me because that faction loves me. |
Jack Miton
Semper Ubi Sub Ubi
2195
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Posted - 2013.07.27 05:23:00 -
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faction police are useless. theyre not that hard to avoid. |
Katsumoto Moliko
Salient Logistics Inc. The Explicit Alliance
14
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Posted - 2013.07.27 10:56:00 -
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-snip- |
Raven Fatality
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.07.27 19:42:00 -
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social skills maybe? |
Zaxix
Long Jump.
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Posted - 2013.07.28 04:19:00 -
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I've always wondered how the faction navy interacts with pilots in a POS. Anyone know how that works? ***Prodigal Frog***
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Sjugar
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
104
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Posted - 2013.07.28 07:51:00 -
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Zaxix wrote:I've always wondered how the faction navy interacts with pilots in a POS. Anyone know how that works? They shoot right through the posshields.
We had a guy with a highsec pos on alts. His pos was reffed and we made a fleet to go rep the pos. The pos-owner had a character with low sec-status but still decided to come.(don't ask me why) For 20 jumps he managed to not get tackled by navy police in his scimitar.
When he reached destination system we heard a big sigh of relief when he said: ok I'm in warp to the pos. He was happy he had survived the gauntlet. ........ Only to see the navy police show up at the pos and to much hilarity of the fleet shoot right through the shields of said pos and demolish his scimitar. . . . . Laughs were had pos was saved. |
Darvaleth Sigma
The Great Harmon Institute Of Technology Innovia Alliance
319
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Posted - 2013.08.01 06:42:00 -
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Jack Miton wrote:faction police are useless. theyre not that hard to avoid.
There's a difference between jumping through the system to avoid the police and sitting in it to gank FW pilots. If you're going to make an irrelevant comment, at least use punctuation! Give a man a match and you warm him for a day.
Set a man on fire and he's warm for the rest of his life! |
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Muad 'dib
The Imperial Fedaykin Amarrian Commandos
1252
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Posted - 2013.08.01 20:44:00 -
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I know how to do this and will tell you after you pay me the 3 bil.
Its not easy and requires time to setup. Cosmic signature detected. . . . http://i.imgur.com/Z7NfIS6.jpg I got 99 likes, and this post aint one.
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Xolve
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
1692
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Posted - 2013.08.01 21:51:00 -
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Explanation Sent.
Payment optional.
Nomad please. |
Droidster
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.08.05 15:30:00 -
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But it's so simple. All I have to do is divine from what I know of you. Are you the sort of man who would put the poison into his own goblet, or his enemy's? Now, a clever man would put the poison into his own goblet, because he would know that only a great fool would reach for what he was given. I'm not a great fool, so I can clearly not choose the wine in front of you. But you must have known I was not a great fool; you would have counted on it, so I can clearly not choose the wine in front of me. You've beaten my giant, which means you're exceptionally strong.So, you could have put the poison in your own goblet, trusting on your strength to save you. So I can clearly not choose the wine in front of you. But, you've also bested my Spaniard which means you must have studied. And in studying, you must have learned that man is mortal so you would have put the poison as far from yourself as possible, so I can clearly not choose the wine in front of me. |
quikfeets509 Dasquikfeet
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.08.05 15:34:00 -
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Berluth Luthian wrote:Was his name trigger99?
He only insta-gibbed twice in 5 minutes at a range that I didn't even see him.
It's fine though, forgot to upgrade my clone and lost a week of training. |
Arisu Cainne
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.08.12 21:57:00 -
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quikfeets509 Dasquikfeet wrote:Berluth Luthian wrote:Was his name trigger99? He only insta-gibbed twice in 5 minutes at a range that I didn't even see him. It's fine though, forgot to upgrade my clone and lost a week of training.
Yeah, I'd love to know how he's doing it- at this moment he's been sitting outside of Hek VIII station in a legion ganking FW targets for 5 hours. I'd love to be doing the same in Uuhulanen. If anyone figures it out, I don't have 3 billion to offer for it, but I'll forward my victims' tears to your inbox on a daily basis. |
Sleban
Pole Shift Incorporated
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Posted - 2013.10.29 19:02:00 -
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A bit of an exhume, but bump for this thread. I am interested to know how this works. |
AnUnskilled Pilot
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.10.29 19:28:00 -
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I lost a geddon about 7 months ago testing if I could tank them. It was slow death, with a tad more resist and reps I would have been stable. Faction navy's aren't concord, you just have to tank their dps |
Sleban
Pole Shift Incorporated
5
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Posted - 2013.10.29 19:53:00 -
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I am wondering what the minimum EHP you need is to station gank effectively, and how it scales with the sec of the system.
I'm not an expert on this, but station FW ganks appear to work in one of two ways:
- use something like a cockbag thrasher, pull off a really quick gank against a noob frigate and warp around for a minute or so, redock.
- use something hardcore (like a Legion, a tactic that Gallente FW pilots trying to get in and out of Villore will know about only too well), gank your target, tank the faction navy / police, wait out the minute timer, redock. So the question is, how big does your tank need to be to be able to tank out the damage? How does the navy / police response scale with sec?
The Legion I've seen doing this is tanked to about 120k EHP, repping about 230 or so EHP a second. In DPS terms, however, that Legion is actually quite tepid: it's using Pulse lasers with Scorch, delivering 381 DPS with a volley of 1171. Usually takes several shots to get the job done, so it's not really alpha although it has a WD that reaches 36k overheated. And the victims are almost always frigates or destroyers.
It is evidently all about the tank. How much is enough?
And the sec status of the system, so I'm going to go a ittle off-topic now...
If you're in Gallente FW, the ganking outside the FDU station in Villore (a 0.5 sec system) is a real PITA, borderline griefing at times. It wouldn't be so bad were Gallente afforded a similar opportunity to gank opponents in 0.5 systems heavily frequented by Caldari pilots, but conveniently there aren't any: Nourvukaiken is the main Caldari non-contestible staging post - a nice 0.8 sec system, and there's next to no-one in the 0.5s of Elanoda, Usi and Oshaima.
Either raise Villore's sec to 0.8, or drop Nourvukaiken's to 0.5 like Villore, so Gallente can rock up with their Legions and slaughter the Caldari noobs in equal amounts as they try to undock.
Back on topic....
Personally I think that it should be impossible to dock in the stations of your enemy militia full stop, or enemy faction pilots should receive uber gate guns instantly on arrival or departure from them to avoid the tanky Legion / battleship scenario outside. No issue with travelling through enemy systems keeping on the move, but what kind of navy lets the enemy dock up and shop, repair etc? |
Pinky Feldman
Gank Bangers I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
644
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Posted - 2013.10.29 22:43:00 -
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Ermagherd, highsec isn't safe! Not enough blue zones in EVE. Except nullsec, that place sucks because it's a blue donut. lel
The moar you cry the less you pee |
Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Pyre Falcon Defence Combine
923
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Posted - 2013.10.29 23:05:00 -
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Haven't tested if it still works but back in the day it was basically:
- Jump into high sec system with an alt in an mwd vigil in your militia
- Warp alt to safespot and wait until Navy NPC spawn then start burning away (They only have 80km webs)
- Warp on-grid to your alt and then warp off-grid. The Navy NPC that spawned on you will then switch on your alt
- So long as your alt and your own Navy NPC spawn are on-grid together you will be able to move around a high-sec system. |
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