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Liu Ellens wrote:

...ok, I'm doing the dangerous jump into a nearly 200 pages thread about one of the most heated discussions around lately. But I was one of the about 20 people to sit in the "Avatars and Character Creator" round-table today, so, a few tidbits I can share.

I try to reproduce the things I remember as objective as possible (I'm human, might recite in error):

Team Avatar consists of 5 (?) people, being primarily concentrated on polishing and extending (tatoos, ...) the character creator and recustomization. They are also for prototyping the future of Out-Of-Pod gameplay.

Character Creator / Customization:

Big decorations (upper torso decals and what not): They were not created because not easy to animate for movement - remember, the whole was meant to have us walking around seeing others
Military uniforms for FW people: They are considered. Brain-Storming Thought: "Would you like them to buy with LP?", which was greeted with "Yes" from several people.
Different body heights/extreme dimensions: Like stated last year: In striving for perfection, proper animations (that avoid clipping) were too much to do to include all body types.
Layering several scars: Was/Is difficult for their bump-maps (or was it height-maps?) - Difficult to overlay

Out-Of-Pod Gameplay:

CCP has taken two steps back and they are now prototyping on gameplay, using quick prototypes that can be created and thrown away in a matter of days or few weeks. Message: "Instead of creating art as early as possible and see what we can do with it, we first iterate on gameplay ideas and add art later".
Whatever it will be, it is meant to do or be something 'additional' - not 'instead' of the current experience
Prototyping is done with the Unity engine
We were shown a 'playable' prototype of gray boxes running around in similar gray corridors
Current prominent idea: Be the explorer type, fly to some scanned site, get out of pod and run through corridors of an abandoned station. (Side question: what happens when blown up - Mind transfer? Answer: Think DUST mercenary tech, also available for capsuleers)
Kicked off into discussion about boarding POS. Question for thoughts was raised: When you allow a capsuleer to mess with the station someone is in - how can (should be) the one in station be able to mess the capsuleer up? (I am most probably not using the same words to recite, but hopefully the idea)

Things regarding 'old' WiS or CQ:

We were shown an unknown movie demonstrating the modular nature of the created room assets for CQ. Character was running through a corridor/room system showcasing the various combinations giving a unique look. The idea was: The motel rooms we know now were meant to be the 'beginner' ones, others to be bigger/better.
Upgrading to bigger CQs / personalized CQs (fixed to the station you buy them in) was considered - if still the case, I can't remember.
Corp establishments: Were put on hold for missing gameplay.
DUST ready-room and CQ? Nothing related (most probably because of two different engines in use)

The above is hopefully the most accurate what I could reproduce from the one hour (there was more discussed, but stuff besides this thread here). Perhaps another attendee can refine.

Now my personal thoughts and opinions:
There will not be anything substantial more than we currently have (creator/CQ) for at least one or even two years - apart from what we've been shown (tatoos, race mixing, ...). Listing my reasons would probably spin the whole back-and-forth once again, so I skip that :) .

I am convinced we will eventually get an out-of-pod experience in what is called by many "the spaceship game". It will take time and it will take small steps to convince the alienated only-ships followers. Because this is still the vision that we were repeatedly shown. It might have been the vision already in 2000, but CCP realized they stomped it out too quickly in recent years and need to gradually steer us all to this.

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Issler Dainze Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord 1302	Posted - 2012.03.24 20:33:00 - [4081] - Quote Jett0 wrote: Issler Dainze wrote: No one is saying spaceships are the heart of Eve I'm assuming this is a typo. OOPS It is. Issler
Vertisce Soritenshi Varion Galactic Tragedy. 1324	Posted - 2012.03.24 20:33:00 - [4082] - Quote Just stay active on the forums Issler. EvE is not about PvP.-a EvE is about the SANDBOX! - CCP!-a Open the door!!!
Issler Dainze Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord 1302	Posted - 2012.03.24 20:34:00 - [4083] - Quote Vertisce Soritenshi wrote: Just stay active on the forums Issler. Count on it! Issler
Ai Shun 410	Posted - 2012.03.24 20:56:00 - [4084] - Quote Ladie Harlot wrote: Watch the video I posted and look at the powerpoint slide in the background. It says, very clearly, "This is a game about spaceships". He also mentions roleplayers, etc. There is a lot of ambiguity. That is not clear enough for me.
Ladie Harlot GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 2098	Posted - 2012.03.24 20:57:00 - [4085] - Quote Issler Dainze wrote: It would be a stupid bet to say CCP is dropping spaceship development to jump back into WiS, they aren't and shouldn't but nothing at Fanfest indicated ambulation isn't part of the promise of the future of Eve. That has been their stance since the Summer of Rage. Eve is spaceships and WiS is on the backburner but not canceled. Are you finally willing to accept that or will we see you insulting more devs for not working on WiS fast enough to suit you? The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.
Ladie Harlot GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 2098	Posted - 2012.03.24 20:58:00 - [4086] - Quote Ai Shun wrote: Ladie Harlot wrote: Watch the video I posted and look at the powerpoint slide in the background. It says, very clearly, "This is a game about spaceships". He also mentions roleplayers, etc. There is a lot of ambiguity. That is not clear enough for me. Are you telling me it's impossible to roleplay without a human shaped avatar? The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.
Jett0 Team Kitty Choke Slam 87	Posted - 2012.03.24 21:02:00 - [4087] - Quote Ladie Harlot wrote: Are you telling me it's impossible to roleplay without a human shaped avatar? Once, I tried "/emote waves at CONCORD with his lazorz." It didn't end well. Occasionally plays sober
Ai Shun 410	Posted - 2012.03.24 21:46:00 - [4088] - Quote Ladie Harlot wrote: Are you telling me it's impossible to roleplay without a human shaped avatar? Of course not. The statements he made are reasonably ambiguous and not as clear cut as you pretend they are. That is all I am saying. Anything else is what you choose to read into it for trolling ammunition.
Liu Ellens Blame The Bunny The Dark Nation 26	Posted - 2012.03.24 22:06:00 - [4089] - Quote ...ok, I'm doing the dangerous jump into a nearly 200 pages thread about one of the most heated discussions around lately. But I was one of the about 20 people to sit in the "Avatars and Character Creator" round-table today, so, a few tidbits I can share. I try to reproduce the things I remember as objective as possible (I'm human, might recite in error): Team Avatar consists of 5 (?) people, being primarily concentrated on polishing and extending (tatoos, ...) the character creator and recustomization. They are also for prototyping the future of Out-Of-Pod gameplay. Character Creator / Customization: Big decorations (upper torso decals and what not): They were not created because not easy to animate for movement - remember, the whole was meant to have us walking around seeing others Military uniforms for FW people: They are considered. Brain-Storming Thought: "Would you like them to buy with LP?", which was greeted with "Yes" from several people. Different body heights/extreme dimensions: Like stated last year: In striving for perfection, proper animations (that avoid clipping) were too much to do to include all body types. Layering several scars: Was/Is difficult for their bump-maps (or was it height-maps?) - Difficult to overlay Out-Of-Pod Gameplay: CCP has taken two steps back and they are now prototyping on gameplay, using quick prototypes that can be created and thrown away in a matter of days or few weeks. Message: "Instead of creating art as early as possible and see what we can do with it, we first iterate on gameplay ideas and add art later". Whatever it will be, it is meant to do or be something 'additional' - not 'instead' of the current experience Prototyping is done with the Unity engine We were shown a 'playable' prototype of gray boxes running around in similar gray corridors Current prominent idea: Be the explorer type, fly to some scanned site, get out of pod and run through corridors of an abandoned station. (Side question: what happens when blown up - Mind transfer? Answer: Think DUST mercenary tech, also available for capsuleers) Kicked off into discussion about boarding POS. Question for thoughts was raised: When you allow a capsuleer to mess with the station someone is in - how can (should be) the one in station be able to mess the capsuleer up? (I am most probably not using the same words to recite, but hopefully the idea) Things regarding 'old' WiS or CQ: We were shown an unknown movie demonstrating the modular nature of the created room assets for CQ. Character was running through a corridor/room system showcasing the various combinations giving a unique look. The idea was: The motel rooms we know now were meant to be the 'beginner' ones, others to be bigger/better. Upgrading to bigger CQs / personalized CQs (fixed to the station you buy them in) was considered - if still the case, I can't remember. Corp establishments: Were put on hold for missing gameplay. DUST ready-room and CQ? Nothing related (most probably because of two different engines in use) The above is hopefully the most accurate what I could reproduce from the one hour (there was more discussed, but stuff besides this thread here). Perhaps another attendee can refine. Now my personal thoughts and opinions: There will not be anything substantial more than we currently have (creator/CQ) for at least one or even two years - apart from what we've been shown (tatoos, race mixing, ...). Listing my reasons would probably spin the whole back-and-forth once again, so I skip that :) . I am convinced we will eventually get an out-of-pod experience in what is called by many "the spaceship game". It will take time and it will take small steps to convince the alienated only-ships followers. Because this is still the vision that we were repeatedly shown. It might have been the vision already in 2000, but CCP realized they stomped it out too quickly in recent years and need to gradually steer us all to this. I'm a little freighter - short and stout; This is my cargo, this is my route. When I get a lock-on, I scream and shout: "Light up a cyno!" and jump on out.
Severian Carnifex 114	Posted - 2012.03.24 23:28:00 - [4090] - Quote Liu Ellens wrote: ...ok, I'm doing the dangerous jump into a nearly 200 pages thread about one of the most heated discussions around lately. But I was one of the about 20 people to sit in the "Avatars and Character Creator" round-table today, so, a few tidbits I can share. I try to reproduce the things I remember as objective as possible (I'm human, might recite in error): Team Avatar consists of 5 (?) people, being primarily concentrated on polishing and extending (tatoos, ...) the character creator and recustomization. They are also for prototyping the future of Out-Of-Pod gameplay. Character Creator / Customization: Big decorations (upper torso decals and what not): They were not created because not easy to animate for movement - remember, the whole was meant to have us walking around seeing others Military uniforms for FW people: They are considered. Brain-Storming Thought: "Would you like them to buy with LP?", which was greeted with "Yes" from several people. Different body heights/extreme dimensions: Like stated last year: In striving for perfection, proper animations (that avoid clipping) were too much to do to include all body types. Layering several scars: Was/Is difficult for their bump-maps (or was it height-maps?) - Difficult to overlay Out-Of-Pod Gameplay: CCP has taken two steps back and they are now prototyping on gameplay, using quick prototypes that can be created and thrown away in a matter of days or few weeks. Message: "Instead of creating art as early as possible and see what we can do with it, we first iterate on gameplay ideas and add art later". Whatever it will be, it is meant to do or be something 'additional' - not 'instead' of the current experience Prototyping is done with the Unity engine We were shown a 'playable' prototype of gray boxes running around in similar gray corridors Current prominent idea: Be the explorer type, fly to some scanned site, get out of pod and run through corridors of an abandoned station. (Side question: what happens when blown up - Mind transfer? Answer: Think DUST mercenary tech, also available for capsuleers) Kicked off into discussion about boarding POS. Question for thoughts was raised: When you allow a capsuleer to mess with the station someone is in - how can (should be) the one in station be able to mess the capsuleer up? (I am most probably not using the same words to recite, but hopefully the idea) Things regarding 'old' WiS or CQ: We were shown an unknown movie demonstrating the modular nature of the created room assets for CQ. Character was running through a corridor/room system showcasing the various combinations giving a unique look. The idea was: The motel rooms we know now were meant to be the 'beginner' ones, others to be bigger/better. Upgrading to bigger CQs / personalized CQs (fixed to the station you buy them in) was considered - if still the case, I can't remember. Corp establishments: Were put on hold for missing gameplay. DUST ready-room and CQ? Nothing related (most probably because of two different engines in use) The above is hopefully the most accurate what I could reproduce from the one hour (there was more discussed, but stuff besides this thread here). Perhaps another attendee can refine. Now my personal thoughts and opinions: There will not be anything substantial more than we currently have (creator/CQ) for at least one or even two years - apart from what we've been shown (tatoos, race mixing, ...). Listing my reasons would probably spin the whole back-and-forth once again, so I skip that :) . I am convinced we will eventually get an out-of-pod experience in what is called by many "the spaceship game". It will take time and it will take small steps to convince the alienated only-ships followers. Because this is still the vision that we were repeatedly shown. It might have been the vision already in 2000, but CCP realized they stomped it out too quickly in recent years and need to gradually steer us all to this. Thnx a lot for this! Was that round-table discussion recorded in any way?

Ladie Harlot GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 2109	Posted - 2012.03.24 23:34:00 - [4091] - Quote Ai Shun wrote: Ladie Harlot wrote: Are you telling me it's impossible to roleplay without a human shaped avatar? Of course not. The statements he made are reasonably ambiguous and not as clear cut as you pretend they are. That is all I am saying. Anything else is what you choose to read into it for trolling ammunition. Well if you believe that because he said the world 'roleplayers' that it means they are going to divert resources from spaceships to WiS then you have left reality far behind. I guess you really, really want those dance emotes. Shine on crazy roleplayer...shine on. The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.
Johan Civire Dirty Curse inc. 19	Posted - 2012.03.25 00:36:00 - [4092] - Quote Ladie Harlot wrote: Ai Shun wrote: Ladie Harlot wrote: Are you telling me it's impossible to roleplay without a human shaped avatar? Of course not. The statements he made are reasonably ambiguous and not as clear cut as you pretend they are. That is all I am saying. Anything else is what you choose to read into it for trolling ammunition. Well if you believe that because he said the world 'roleplayers' that it means they are going to divert resources from spaceships to WiS then you have left reality far behind. I guess you really, really want those dance emotes. Shine on crazy roleplayer...shine on. Still trolling ic..... you will never learn it...
oldbutfeelingyoung 496	Posted - 2012.03.25 01:46:00 - [4093] - Quote Liu Ellens wrote: Avatars and Character Creator" round-table thank you pushing that button ,not expecting something. But suddenly the door opens and the next thing i see myself flooting in space,just before i wake up again. thank god for clones
oldbutfeelingyoung 496	Posted - 2012.03.25 01:47:00 - [4094] - Quote Jett0 wrote: Ladie Harlot wrote: Are you telling me it's impossible to roleplay without a human shaped avatar? Once, I tried "/emote waves at CONCORD with his lazorz." It didn't end well. rofl was drinking a cup of coffee reading this ,coffee is all over the desk now pushing that button ,not expecting something. But suddenly the door opens and the next thing i see myself flooting in space,just before i wake up again. thank god for clones
Ladie Harlot GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 2112	Posted - 2012.03.25 01:53:00 - [4095] - Quote Johan Civire wrote: Ladie Harlot wrote: Ai Shun wrote: Ladie Harlot wrote: Are you telling me it's impossible to roleplay without a human shaped avatar? Of course not. The statements he made are reasonably ambiguous and not as clear cut as you pretend they are. That is all I am saying. Anything else is what you choose to read into it for trolling ammunition. Well if you believe that because he said the world 'roleplayers' that it means they are going to divert resources from spaceships to WiS then you have left reality far behind. I guess you really, really want those dance emotes. Shine on crazy roleplayer...shine on. Still trolling ic..... you will never learn it... Not trolling...just sounding off against the handful of people that want CCP to go back on their promise to focus on real Eve content. The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.
oldbutfeelingyoung 496	Posted - 2012.03.25 02:18:00 - [4096] - Quote Ladie Harlot wrote: Johan Civire wrote: Ladie Harlot wrote: Ai Shun wrote: Ladie Harlot wrote: Are you telling me it's impossible to roleplay without a human shaped avatar? Of course not. The statements he made are reasonably ambiguous and not as clear cut as you pretend they are. That is all I am saying. Anything else is what you choose to read into it for trolling ammunition. Well if you believe that because he said the world 'roleplayers' that it means they are going to divert resources from spaceships to WiS then you have left reality far behind. I guess you really, really want those dance emotes. Shine on crazy roleplayer...shine on. Still trolling ic..... you will never learn it... Not trolling...just sounding off against the handful of people that want CCP to go back on their promise to focus on real Eve content. hey Tool activate your second braincell please,nobody wants that. pushing that button ,not expecting something. But suddenly the door opens and the next thing i see myself flooting in space,just before i wake up again. thank god for clones
Liu Ellens Blame The Bunny The Dark Nation 31	Posted - 2012.03.25 04:18:00 - [4097] - Quote Severian Carnifex wrote: Was that round-table discussion recorded in any way? ...not that I know of, sorry. I'm now about to take the bus to the airport :) Yet another year to wait for the next fanfest. I'm a little freighter - short and stout; This is my cargo, this is my route. When I get a lock-on, I scream and shout: "Light up a cyno!" and jump on out.
Ai Shun 410	Posted - 2012.03.25 04:44:00 - [4098] - Quote Ladie Harlot wrote: Not trolling...just sounding off against the handful of people that want CCP to go back on their promise to focus on real Eve content. See, that is where I take issue with you somedays. You don't seem to read what people write and simply conflate a number of us into one large, amorphous entity that you respond to. Granted, there are players that desire that state. I've got one of them blocked for being an illogical, rude person. But the OP, myself and a number of others have stated we do not want what you claim we want. My position is clear. 1. FiS > WiS and FiS should get first priority. 2. WiS should be a separate game, separate audience (With capsuleers included) in the EVE Universe 3. WiS should be separately funded (ISK is cross over currency) 4. WiS should be developed by the WoD team (Which should be back burnered in favour of EVE related content) So why do you include me in your "handful of people" you are "sounding" off against. That is lazy.
Ladie Harlot GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 2120	Posted - 2012.03.25 04:47:00 - [4099] - Quote The OP has openly insulted CCP developers in this thread for working on something other than WiS. The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.
Vertisce Soritenshi Varion Galactic Tragedy. 1324	Posted - 2012.03.25 04:57:00 - [4100] - Quote Issler, since you are the voice for WiS on the CSM, I hope you can find it in your heart to show your support (no pun intended) for THIS idea. PLEASE?! EvE is not about PvP.-a EvE is about the SANDBOX! - CCP!-a Open the door!!!

Ladie Harlot GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 2124	Posted - 2012.03.25 05:16:00 - [4101] - Quote Vertisce Soritenshi wrote: Issler, since you are the voice for WiS on the CSM, I hope you can find it in your heart to show your support (no pun intended) for THIS idea. PLEASE?! Finally somebody has found a good use for the avatar engine. The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.
Issler Dainze Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord 1304	Posted - 2012.03.25 06:01:00 - [4102] - Quote Vertisce Soritenshi wrote: Issler, since you are the voice for WiS on the CSM, I hope you can find it in your heart to show your support (no pun intended) for THIS idea. PLEASE?! So more realistic character physics. I'd say a goal way down the road (way way way way down). Sure. But I can't imagine worrying about that until we have a LOT more on the other side of the door to enjoy. Issler
Ai Shun 410	Posted - 2012.03.25 07:11:00 - [4103] - Quote Ladie Harlot wrote: The OP has openly insulted CCP developers in this thread for working on something other than WiS. Knowing you that is probably drawn ludicrously out of context. I mean, you have accused me of wanting them to prioritise WiS over FiS. You have told people they are after emotes only. You basically lie and pull anything and everything out of context. So - can you link the post where this allegedly happened, please? If I agree with that, I will edit my post to remove the OP's name from that and remove her from my list of WiS, but not at the cost of FiS players.
Baby ChuChu Ice Cream Asylum 59	Posted - 2012.03.25 07:23:00 - [4104] - Quote Ai Shun wrote: Ladie Harlot wrote: The OP has openly insulted CCP developers in this thread for working on something other than WiS. Knowing you that is probably drawn ludicrously out of context. I mean, you have accused me of wanting them to prioritise WiS over FiS. You have told people they are after emotes only. You basically lie and pull anything and everything out of context. So - can you link the post where this allegedly happened, please? If I agree with that, I will edit my post to remove the OP's name from that and remove her from *my list of WiS, but not at the cost of FiS* players.** ...where is this list and am i on it? Because I would like to be por favor. CCP! Open the door!!!
Ladie Harlot GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 2130	Posted - 2012.03.25 07:32:00 - [4105] - Quote Ai Shun wrote: Ladie Harlot wrote: The OP has openly insulted CCP developers in this thread for working on something other than WiS. Knowing you that is probably drawn ludicrously out of context. I mean, you have accused me of wanting them to prioritise WiS over FiS. You have told people they are after emotes only. You basically lie and pull anything and everything out of context. So - can you link the post where this allegedly happened, please? If I agree with that, I will edit my post to remove the OP's name from that and remove her from my list of WiS, but not at the cost of FiS players. Issler's post CCP karkur's hurt feelings The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.
Ai Shun 410	Posted - 2012.03.25 08:42:00 - [4106] - Quote Ladie Harlot wrote: Issler's post Issler wrote: This was exactly my fear. CCP, you need to realize you are hurting the future of your game and you need to start to be more honest with the players. One and a fraction people can't get anything useful done for ambulation. This now clearly looks to be just another PR stunt. CCP, take ambulation seriously and open that door! Seriously, Ladie Harlot? Now I know you are just trolling.
oldbutfeelingyoung 506	Posted - 2012.03.25 12:03:00 - [4107] - Quote Ladie Harlot wrote: Ai Shun wrote: Ladie Harlot wrote: The OP has openly insulted CCP developers in this thread for working on something other than WiS. Knowing you that is probably drawn ludicrously out of context. I mean, you have accused me of wanting them to prioritise WiS over FiS. You have told people they are after emotes only. You basically lie and pull anything and everything out of context. So - can you link the post where this allegedly happened, please? If I agree with that, I will edit my post to remove the OP's name from that and remove her from my list of WiS, but not at the cost of FiS players. Issler's post CCP karkur's hurt feelings Lol little tool ,Karkur felt misunderstood when somebody mentioned this : Quote: I was talking about percentage in that post. Look at what they did... Team Avatar is working on WiS with about 1/3 of their time 5 ppl are in team, 1 is QA, so 4 persons are developing. 1/3 of 4 is 1,33. 1,33 devs are actually working on WiS... XD thats so sad that its funny A lot she did in her own time is moved to TA ,as if TA did it all If there are more like her at ccp, those people should have a new forum tag CCP Karkur would be CCPG Karkur G = Golden Employee pushing that button ,not expecting something. But suddenly the door opens and the next thing i see myself flooting in space,just before i wake up again. thank god for clones
Carola Kessler Lost Sisters Of New Eden Freelancer Coalition 14	Posted - 2012.03.25 12:56:00 - [4108] - Quote CCP karkur wrote: wow... just wow. I hope you guys are joking. I'm sorry we are delivering something as well as working on wis... or no, actually I'm not sorry, I'm just sorry that some of you see it this way I'm so sorry seeing a hard working Dev beeing sad cause all the work and efforts and time he has spend it gets hard knocked down by the Big loud crying FiS fraction of the players.......tbh...it's sad to see that most players still can't see the possible goods, features, Challenges and other stuff can get implemented with WiS in the future over time also remember there is still and has to be changes for the whole games if this doesn't happens stagnation would occour and whit this happen the game would go slowly down and finally die. I think most the fear from the older Veterans and Hardcore Eve players ARE changes which WiS will bring to their stupidly followed gameplay e.g. shooting each other again and again and over again just for the sake of Destroying each other and the so called 'fun' of it. Remember guys, YOU aren't the only ones playing Eve, there are others which aren't interessted in those activitys at all, so there are still RPers in game would WiS getting fully working and well done implemtented appreciate. I'm not RPer but i like somehow beeing a person ( Avatar ) able to leave the Capsule to walk around and meet other players at some day in the station eye in eye rather then starring still on the Chatwindow with static pictures to watch. Anyways CCP Karkur i'm feeling with you and hope you can get at some day back to your work and impress at some day all those which were hammering you with insults and other badly worded Comments with a FUlly working and representative WiS which will get them finally to shut up and accept only changes make a game better over time not the still following old ways until everything gets boring. Sincerly Carola Kessler
Taiwanistan Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation 224	Posted - 2012.03.25 13:27:00 - [4109] - Quote Vertisce Soritenshi wrote: Issler, since you are the voice for WiS on the CSM, I hope you can find it in your heart to show your support (no pun intended) for THIS idea. PLEASE?! Issler, now is the time for you to show that you will be a contributing member of the csm despite being previously labeled as a joke candidate. it is literally like whack-a-mole with these lisping emote /dance otaku freaks, there are too many of them i can't rebuke them all. just look at all them freaks coming out pining for you to support their frivolous desires. after watching the streams of FF i've changed my mind about combat in wis. i've concluded that it is only in space where meaningful loss can be inflicted. i am not particularly interested in EVE having a "die a thousand deaths with little consequences" shooter game, after all that is what Dust is for. i've concluded meaningful gameplay and content for wis lies in industry and trade. for starters npc trade goods like (eg. vaccines and small arms) could use a complete revamp, place them into the players' hands. i don't know how wis will be but i sure as hell can tell you what it shall not be. wis shall not be a cesspool of all-you-can-eat social /dance o7m8 dressup, unrestrained do ask do tell out and proud at the space bar dollhouse, bunch of dudes emoting each other, devoid of gameplay and consequnces.
Vertisce Soritenshi Varion Galactic Tragedy. 1330	Posted - 2012.03.25 13:57:00 - [4110] - Quote Issler Dainze wrote: Vertisce Soritenshi wrote: Issler, since you are the voice for WiS on the CSM, I hope you can find it in your heart to show your support (no pun intended) for THIS idea. PLEASE?! So more realistic character physics. I'd say a goal way down the road (way way way way down). Sure. But I can't imagine worrying about that until we have a LOT more on the other side of the door to enjoy. Issler Oh of course! I figure it is like the Dead Horse POS thread though...Gotta get it up early so it can be done 6 years from now. EvE is not about PvP.-a EvE is about the SANDBOX! - CCP!-a Open the door!!!


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