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0Lona 0ltor
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
71
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Posted - 2013.07.02 11:29:00 -
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Just noticed that 2013 has not had a T2BPO thread.
T2BPO were introduced to the game unfairly and afford older players a monopoly over newer players in entire lines of T2, remove them. |
UKBigWolf
46
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Posted - 2013.07.02 11:38:00 -
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Not sure if legit or troll... |
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
1598
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Posted - 2013.07.02 11:43:00 -
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UKBigWolf wrote:Not sure if legit or troll...
It's a troll. Must be. with the number of times this comes up, it pretty much has to be a troll these days.
There can't be that many people who are bad at maths. Steve Ronuken for CSM 9!-á I'm starting early :) Handy tools and an SDE conversion Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter |
Rutger Janssen
Xanadu
91
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Posted - 2013.07.02 11:45:00 -
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I'll bite:
1. You can still acquire t2 bpos, see sell order forums 2. The new decryptors and exploration drops have already buffed invention(and nerfed t2 bpos) 3. Invention of many items is still profitable 4. For those that aren't, maybe it's not because of the existance of t2 bpos, but maybe because they're just **** and not used(thus sold) as often? If t2 bpos kept the price down, why are are eaf and hics so bad to invent? |
Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
919
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Posted - 2013.07.02 12:16:00 -
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0Lona 0ltor wrote:Just noticed that 2013 has not had a T2BPO thread.
T2BPO were introduced to the game unfairly and afford older players a monopoly over newer players in entire lines of T2, remove them.
Buy them and trash them.
Problem solved. *removed inappropriate ASCII art signature* - CCP Eterne |
0Lona 0ltor
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
71
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Posted - 2013.07.02 15:11:00 -
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I'd love to I have a ton of research points where is the redeem button? |
Sabre Rolf
Republic University Minmatar Republic
58
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Posted - 2013.07.02 15:21:00 -
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0Lona 0ltor wrote:Just noticed that 2013 has not had a T2BPO thread. . because no Brewlar kwak has made one yet (till tody at least), that-¦s why |
Ginger Barbarella
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
1376
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Posted - 2013.07.02 16:55:00 -
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0Lona 0ltor wrote:Just noticed that 2013 has not had a T2BPO thread.
If you "just noticed" that, then you clearly don't read the forums. "Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac |
Ginger Barbarella
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
1376
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Posted - 2013.07.02 16:57:00 -
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Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote:0Lona 0ltor wrote:Just noticed that 2013 has not had a T2BPO thread.
T2BPO were introduced to the game unfairly and afford older players a monopoly over newer players in entire lines of T2, remove them. Buy them and trash them. Problem solved.
The people screaming for this CLEARLY have never invested in any T2 BPOs for themselves, and would rather have CCP silently gank BPO holder's assets rather than have the balls to do it themselves. It's pathetic, really. "Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac |
Sabre Rolf
Republic University Minmatar Republic
58
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Posted - 2013.07.02 17:21:00 -
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Ginger Barbarella wrote:Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote:0Lona 0ltor wrote:Just noticed that 2013 has not had a T2BPO thread.
T2BPO were introduced to the game unfairly and afford older players a monopoly over newer players in entire lines of T2, remove them. Buy them and trash them. Problem solved. The people screaming for this CLEARLY have never invested in any T2 BPOs for themselves, and would rather have CCP silently gank BPO holder's assets rather than have the balls to do it themselves. It's pathetic, really.
if they would have invested in them they wouldnt scream to remove them, especially this guy. |
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Kaeleia Audene
University of Caille Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2013.07.02 20:21:00 -
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In all seriousness, I find this interesting. I had thought all T2 BPOs turned into high ME/PE BPCs had long since been blown up or lost.
I guess I need to add this to the plan: "Acquire and destroy any and all former T2 BPOs."
You asked, and I will do my best to deliver. |
Fhaerbaline Khent
University of Caille Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2013.07.03 01:18:00 -
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0Lona 0ltor wrote:I'd love to I have a ton of research points where is the redeem button? Pretty much says it all.....On top of this CCP wanting to do away with R&D rp kind of tips us off to whether or not there is "Insider" or "favoritist" sentiments on the part of CCP towards a select few groups.
Socialism for the rich, Screw the rest.... If you are one of us on the outside looking in and love this game you will see this situation as a challenge to overcome & not a reason to bail.
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Lucy Ferrr
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
263
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Posted - 2013.07.03 02:39:00 -
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Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote:0Lona 0ltor wrote:Just noticed that 2013 has not had a T2BPO thread.
T2BPO were introduced to the game unfairly and afford older players a monopoly over newer players in entire lines of T2, remove them. Buy them and trash them. Problem solved.
You're right, CCP should be secretly buying up T2 BPOs with confiscated isk and then trashing them. |
Jim Bond
Knights of the Dark Rose
3
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Posted - 2013.07.03 07:28:00 -
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Maybe T2 bpo's should not be removed, maybe they should be now be made available to everyone on the general market. |
Sabre Rolf
Republic University Minmatar Republic
58
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Posted - 2013.07.03 08:09:00 -
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Jim Bond wrote: maybe they should be now be made available to everyone on the general market.
technicly they are, but as ALL OTHER BLUEPRINTS, once they are researched, they can only be contracted (and there is a constant flow of T2 BPO`s on public contracts)
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Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
924
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Posted - 2013.07.03 11:10:00 -
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Lucy Ferrr wrote:Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote:0Lona 0ltor wrote:Just noticed that 2013 has not had a T2BPO thread.
T2BPO were introduced to the game unfairly and afford older players a monopoly over newer players in entire lines of T2, remove them. Buy them and trash them. Problem solved. You're right, CCP should be secretly buying up T2 BPOs with confiscated isk and then trashing them.
It's player made content game, it's up to players to deal with what they think are problems and find solutions, T2 BPO's get destroyed every year and recent exploration changes made invention far more profitable than ever.
If you think T2 BPOs are a problem for you, find solutions and act, stop complaining and do something about it in game. *removed inappropriate ASCII art signature* - CCP Eterne |
Brewlar Kuvakei
Adeptio Gloriae
224
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Posted - 2013.07.03 11:25:00 -
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Yeah more T2BPO hate.
The new exploration buff was a nerf to T2BPO which was good.
I'd like to see a further nerf by not allowing locked BP's to be researched or manufactured from. So if you want to use your BPO you will have to do so by putting it at risk from corp theft. Better yet would be to buff invention well beyond T2BPO allowing invented BPC's to have perfect ME and PE instead of the negative they are lumbered with now. Kugutsumen - My signature insures that my post is always read by an ISD or Dev, does yours? |
Sabre Rolf
Republic University Minmatar Republic
58
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Posted - 2013.07.03 13:54:00 -
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yep, great nerf! Im making about 20% more profit across the board with my T2 ship BPO's since the moongoo overhaul. Good nerf!
fyi, Brewlar realy expects us to think that the OP is not his alt. |
Brewlar Kuvakei
Adeptio Gloriae
224
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Posted - 2013.07.03 14:15:00 -
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Sorry what's that an NPC char please post on your main, anyway continue with the invention buffs give us an exploration mod which would apply perfect me and pe to our inventions. Kugutsumen - My signature insures that my post is always read by an ISD or Dev, does yours? |
Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
926
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Posted - 2013.07.03 20:45:00 -
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Brewlar Kuvakei wrote:Sorry what's that an NPC char please post on your main
This always makes me laugh. Has no point or make no point but makes me laugh. *removed inappropriate ASCII art signature* - CCP Eterne |
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Sabre Rolf
Republic University Minmatar Republic
59
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Posted - 2013.07.03 21:04:00 -
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not like that he is posting from an from-alt aswell, but it-¦s the 2 mil he spend to create a single man corp that makes the difference here
that said, asking for common sense in a thread with the Topic " 2013- Remove T2BPO" seems the be rather inappropriate, so might aswell count that as a valid argument against T2 BPO-¦s |
Lara Dantreb
Reisende des Schwarzschild Grenze
21
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Posted - 2013.07.04 09:27:00 -
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As a T2 Bpos owner, I'm quite happy with the invention buff : As I'm used to all the wheels of production, I am more effective in my work of invention and production, and lower costs. In the end it's even more profit to purchase new T2 bpos !
I wanted to share my joy about this and wish good luck to all of the inventors who engage in rough draft that will cost them isks ----á-á Buying T2 ship bpos since 2005-á --- --- -á-á-á-á-á-á BUT NOT ATM :)-á-á-á --- |
Brewlar Kuvakei
Adeptio Gloriae
224
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Posted - 2013.07.04 13:51:00 -
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Lara Dantreb wrote:As a T2 Bpos owner, I'm quite happy with the invention buff : As I'm used to all the wheels of production, I am more effective in my work of invention and production, and lower costs. In the end it's even more profit to purchase new T2 bpos ! I wanted to share my joy about this and wish good luck to all of the inventors who engage in rough draft that will cost them isks
As a non T2BPO owner I'm happier now that T2 invention got a slight buff, I still think further buffs are needed. One I'd like to put forward is that an invented BPC should inherit it's T1 BPO Me & PE levels. Kugutsumen - My signature insures that my post is always read by an ISD or Dev, does yours? |
Sabre Rolf
Republic University Minmatar Republic
59
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Posted - 2013.07.04 14:22:00 -
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Brewlar Kuvakei wrote:. One I'd like to put forward is that an invented BPC should inherit it's T1 BPO Me & PE levels.
I see this is a well conceived concept again, but please don`t mind me asking where to put my decryptors into, if I can just invent ME 20 Jumpfreighters?
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UKBigWolf
46
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Posted - 2013.07.04 16:56:00 -
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Sabre Rolf wrote:Brewlar Kuvakei wrote:. One I'd like to put forward is that an invented BPC should inherit it's T1 BPO Me & PE levels. I see this is a well conceived concept again, but please don`t mind me asking where to put my decryptors into, if I can just invent ME 20 Jumpfreighters?
This
The closest it should come to Brewlar's suggestion is that decryptors might give you a % of the BPC's ME/PE levels Even then, not so convinced it's a good idea |
Ten Bulls
Sons of Olsagard
259
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Posted - 2013.07.05 07:17:00 -
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No need to remove T2 BPO's, just need to continually adjust manufacturing time so they never supply more than 10% of the market. |
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
1609
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Posted - 2013.07.05 09:45:00 -
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Ten Bulls wrote:No need to remove T2 BPO's, just need to continually adjust manufacturing time so they never supply more than 10% of the market.
In general, they already don't.
Except in a few specific /small/ markets. Steve Ronuken for CSM 9!-á I'm starting early :) Handy tools and an SDE conversion Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter |
Dasola
Rookie Empire Citizens Rookie Empire
203
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Posted - 2013.07.05 11:42:00 -
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Not one of these threads again. how many has there been all ready? have lost count...
Yes lottery was unfair and was later replaced with invention. Should T2 BPO be removed? Not in my opinion. if you bother to do quick math you soon discover they take years of continuous manufacturing to actually start produce profits...
And there's only handful of markets where owners of T2BPO can dominate it.
And no, i dont own even a single T2BPO. I do have two inventors, highsec pos, etc... There's tons of items that are profitable to invent, manufacture and sell on market. If you feel like you are run over by T2BPO owner, then maybe you should look something else to manufacture.
We are Minmatar, Our ship are made of scraps, but look what our scraps can do... |
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ISD Cura Ursus
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
156
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Posted - 2013.07.05 18:51:00 -
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Thread locked for several reasons:
1. Ranting is prohibited. 2. Trolling is prohibited. 3. Redundant and re-posted threads will be locked.
This has been discussed to death over and over again.
ISD Cura Ursus Lieutenant Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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