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Nairka Sotken
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.06.08 09:19:00 -
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Hey there ,
I just started playing again (on a new account , i had another account but with 1 month old char only and pretty messed up skills ) , so i made a plan wich is around 60 days long to be able to fly a manticore + drake T2 fit .
But what i can do during this time ?
I'm sure you'll give me the picture with every possibilities of Eve , but in every possibilities you must learn a lot of skills .. so can you guys help me ?
Level 1 missions are really boring and not rewarding at all , mining is not bad for money for a beginner i guess but its just so boring .
I know that in 2-3 months i will be finaly able to enjoy the game fully , but what can i do during this time ?
Thanks in advance . |
Haulie Berry
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Posted - 2013.06.08 09:21:00 -
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What do you *want* to do? Skills are mostly about a matter of degrees, or efficacy. Most activities in the game can be at least attempted with just a bit of skill. |
Julius Rigel
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Posted - 2013.06.08 09:23:00 -
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Do the same thing you want to do in three months, but right now, with a smaller ship. Do YOU like to undock? |
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
232
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Posted - 2013.06.08 09:23:00 -
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Log in.
Queue up some more skills
Stay and watch a channel
or
logout and play another game.
Wash. Rinse. Repeat for 182 days. "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
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Nairka Sotken
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.06.08 09:23:00 -
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I want to PvP with the manticore , and do some L3 / L4 if possible with the drake to gain some ISK .
The new exploration system interest me also |
Gary Goat
XDC-UK
44
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Posted - 2013.06.08 09:24:00 -
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Play Eve |
RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
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Posted - 2013.06.08 09:26:00 -
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Why do you want to fly a Drake and Manticore?
If the Drake is for missions, keep in mind that L3 missions are basically no different from L1 missions, so if you find L1 missions to be boring...
Grab a frigate and learn to PvP in that. Stealthbombers are pricy for newbies and don't really lend themselves to solo work. This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody.
"the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP)." -CCP Solomon |
Nairka Sotken
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.06.08 09:28:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:Why do you want to fly a Drake and Manticore? If the Drake is for missions, keep in mind that L3 missions are basically no different from L1 missions, so if you find L1 missions to be boring...
Yea but they're rewarding , so i could buy ships for PVP . |
Lexmana
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Posted - 2013.06.08 09:29:00 -
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Train some frig/destroyer skills and join the militia. And i would also recomend buying a PLEX this one time and sell it on the market. It will make your first month so much more pleasurable while figuring out how to bring in the ISK you need (it is easy in FW) and most importantly you will be able to buy ships in bulk from the start so you wont mind exploding (it is fun). |
Nairka Sotken
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.06.08 09:36:00 -
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Lexmana wrote:Train some frig/destroyer skills and join the militia. And i would also recomend buying a PLEX this one time and sell it on the market. It will make your first month so much more pleasurable while figuring out how to bring in the ISK you need (it is easy in FW) and most importantly you will be able to buy ships in bulk from the start so you wont mind exploding (it is fun).
Thanks , well i have around 80M buy selling the gnosis gift , not the 600M from a plex but still some money |
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Vaju Enki
Secular Wisdom
830
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Posted - 2013.06.08 09:38:00 -
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Play the game? Because you will be learning skills forever, it's never going to end. The Tears Must Flow |
Princess Saskia
Hyperfleet Industries xXPlease Pandemic Citizens Reloaded Alliance.Xx
2771
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Posted - 2013.06.08 09:40:00 -
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I sit in +5's in jita and talk to people. -áGÖÑ-á
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Nairka Sotken
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.06.08 09:43:00 -
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Vaju Enki wrote:Play the game? Because you will be learning skills forever, it's never going to end.
Yea but remember your first few days , you can't do anything but train skills
But it will be over soon |
Zappity
Kurved Space
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Posted - 2013.06.08 09:48:00 -
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You really want to start PvP in T1 frigates. You will lose. A lot. So start cheap! Hooray, I'm l33t! -á(Kil2: "The higher their ship losses...the better they're going to be.") |
Martin Gregor
DRUCKWELLE Evolution The Initiative.
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Posted - 2013.06.08 09:51:00 -
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You can do enough, believe me. If you dont know what to do in eve now, you wont know it in a month. Get a frig and do pvp in the militia as all the other ppl out there. 3 days of skills are enough. Or go for exploration, a friend made 300 mil in lowsec with a 6 day account. Mission, trading, pvp, producing, join a corp!!! And have fun with them. If you still say its all boring, quit eve ! |
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
232
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Posted - 2013.06.08 10:04:00 -
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Vaju Enki wrote:Play the game? Because you will be learning skills forever, it's never going to end.
Difference is if you new, you don't have the support skills to survive.
Of course the Goons and more want those newbs in low/null...as practice dummies. Those elite pilots got to pimp their killboards with something.
Evemon is showing for 4/5 skills in just weapons and shields = 216 days (with implants).
And it doesn't even cover training drone and hull skills (want to fly T3s, right?). "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
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Demica Diaz
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.06.08 10:07:00 -
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Well, now that you wait for your Manticore and Drake. Build up t1 frigate with fit you think is best for your skills, buy 10 of them and fit them aswell, then off you go learn to PvP if thats what you wish. If you notice that you getting killed 24/7 on your roaming then try some PvP newbie corps while waiting skills. Red vs Blue I think is still around. Plenty of low skilled players who wish to PvP in there I think.
Or maybe you into ISK. I have no experience of mining so I wont say anything about it but, what I found to be fun to do is salvage. I watched steam last night of one guy 3 days old character making 100 million by salvaging level 4 missions. Not ninja salvaging but asking mission runners if he can salvage or do they wish to 50/50 profit from salvage.
Do courier missions. One will ask, why the hell... Well if you plan to PvP, its always good to have jump clone without implants, specially for people who just start to PvP. To get jump clone you need 8.0 standing with NPC corp. Courier missions dont need much skills to do them, all you need to have ship with fat belly and station with 2-3 level courier agents in it.
There is also plenty of other things to do while you wait, you just need to think outside the box. |
C DeLeon
Pangalactic Punks n' Playboys HUN Reloaded
142
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Posted - 2013.06.08 10:11:00 -
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They just revamped exploration and scanning. Go out to low in a t1 frigate and do some data/relic sites. If you travel around between the sites the scenery is always changing so you feel like you are actually exploring and the reward is unpredictable so it have some surprise factor and feels like a kinder egg :)
I know I would do that in your position |
Thur Barbek
Republic University Minmatar Republic
156
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Posted - 2013.06.08 10:16:00 -
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http://myeveguide.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/eve-wtd.jpg |
Vaju Enki
Secular Wisdom
830
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Posted - 2013.06.08 10:37:00 -
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Ace Uoweme wrote:Vaju Enki wrote:Play the game? Because you will be learning skills forever, it's never going to end. Difference is if you new, you don't have the support skills to survive. Of course the Goons and more want those newbs in low/null... as practice dummies. Those elite pilots got to pimp their killboards with something. Evemon is showing for 4/5 skills in just weapons and shields = 216 days (with implants). And it doesn't even cover training drone and hull skills (want to fly T3s, right?).
Diarrhea post from a clueless themeparker. Enlighten us on your vast knowledge on this subject, please tell us more about your world of warcraft adventures and how that's related with a sandbox mmo-rpg game like EvE Online. The Tears Must Flow |
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Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting Home Front Coalition
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Posted - 2013.06.08 11:01:00 -
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The general misconception is that you need to have to have maxed your skills to be effective at any given activity. But if you do a lot of that atctivity you will get actually good at it while those skills train automaticly, making you even better at the job. But it's your knowledge about it that counts the most.
And heck, everybody that says lowsec pvp-ers don't want food is lying through their teeth. Off course we want to shoot at you. But it's not just to pad the killboards and grief the kids. Shooting at people is an awefully effective method of recruitment and it's a treat to see the same person come back a while later (an hour, a day, a month) better fitted or with a couple of friends. |
Nairka Sotken
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.06.08 11:55:00 -
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C DeLeon wrote:They just revamped exploration and scanning. Go out to low in a t1 frigate and do some data/relic sites. If you travel around between the sites the scenery is always changing so you feel like you are actually exploring and the reward is unpredictable so it have some surprise factor and feels like a kinder egg :)
And when you will be able to fly a bomber you will be able to also fly a covops frigate which is easymode scanning ship in low.
I know I would do that in your position
Yea that's pretty interesting , thanks !
Well , thanks to everyone , i'll just have to wait tomorrow to start exploring
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Barrogh Habalu
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.06.08 12:50:00 -
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Nairka Sotken wrote:Vaju Enki wrote:Play the game? Because you will be learning skills forever, it's never going to end. Yea but remember your first few days , you can't do anything but train skills But it will be over soon Actually, I actively played for the first days in EVE, there was always something to try. After a year, I'm sitting on all those SP doing nothing but gaining more... Sigh. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2013.06.08 12:55:00 -
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You can do anything you want. The problem is that you seem to be putting the cart before the horse and aiming for something before you know what you want to aim for.
My tip is: try everything. The smattering of lvl-I skills needed to try any given activity in EVE (except maybe flying capships) can be brushed off in a matter of minutes or, at worst, hours. Unless you are very OCD about your character sheet, there is no such thing as wasted SP and lvl-I skills cost so little that it won't particularly effect your clone either. So try anything and everything, and then figure out where you want to go.
On your way there, you will probably pass through a number of intermediate steps where you get access to new ships and new equipment, but that doesn't mean you can't start doingGǪ whatever it isGǪ long before you get there. If you plan to PvP, learn to lose ships GÇö it will happen, and it's better you learn what works and what doesn't and what the consequences are with ships and clones that cost 100k ISK rather than tens of millions. If someone tells you GÇ£don't do X before you have YGÇ¥, slap them on the head and all them clueless n00bs. You should do the exact opposite because otherwise you will arrive at Y and only then discover that X is horrible in every way.
Also, see sig. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |
FloppieTheBanjoClown
New Eden Asteroid Preservation Society
3016
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Posted - 2013.06.08 12:59:00 -
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Three years in, I'm still training needed skills (advanced weapon upgrades 5, to provide that last bit of powergrid to perfect my legion fit). You'll never stop training.
If you plan to fly a drake in L4s, then you'll need to grind standing to get to those missions.
If you plan to PVP in a bomber, do yourself a favor and PVP in cheap frigates first.
Plan a T1 fit for one of those jobs, train to fly it, and get started. Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement. |
Boomhaur
135
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Posted - 2013.06.08 13:03:00 -
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Player Skill > SP
Had an alt a long time ago back when we started with around 800-900k SP and trained them for about 12hours and went pirating with them with some success. I can tell you that character could barely fit a warp scram and tracking disruptor and was no where near cap stable but I took down a lot pilots with that guy in his little rifter using the cheapest parts I could get my hands on. Most of them were significantly older players with SEVERAL times more SP than I had, after all I had 12hours of skill training most had at least months on me. The reason why I came out on top when I did was because I knew what I was doing and brought the right stuff to the fight. Heck I even tried to take down battleships solo for fun, one guy ended up trying without success for about 10min trying to pop me and had to pull out several of his friends playing other games to come get me as my lone rifter was too much for him to handle (I didn't have the DPS to break his tank and no backup of my own).
Point is do what you want and don't get caught up on skills. Welcome to Eve. Everyone here is an Evil Sick Sadistic Bastard who is out to get you. Anyone who tells you otherwise is either trying to scam you or use you. |
Gislin D'ahl
EVE University Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.06.08 13:21:00 -
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I'm new. I've joined the Eve Uni and I'm mining scordite in the day to day. I usually make 800k+ a load in high sec in my free tutorial Venture. I put up sell orders based on the average price in the area rounded down one dollar and to the zero cents. So, if average price in your area is 26.67, drop it down to 25.00. Every few days ambitious haulers come through and pick it up and you don't have to worry about refining it.
I also used some of the free points CCP has been handing out to skill a few planetary interaction skills. Not much, just enough to get started. I found an okay planet and a somewhat crappy planet and set up two PI installations with earnings from my mining. I'm still getting a feel for it but it gives me something different from mining to work on. I'm just working on getting my factories to produce the right amounts of P1 materials to combine into P2 and then sell them.
In the meantime, I'm working on my basic core cert and some groundwork skills for flying each of the racial lines of ships. Since I don't know for sure what I want to fly, I'm getting weapon/support skills to 3 or 4 for each of the racial lines and playing with the free ships from the tutorials.
I know this last part may not be the most popular attitude, but I decided up-front that my trial period of skilling would be "regret-free". I'm allowing myself to skill in possibly useless or at least inefficient skills just to try stuff out (like mining, PI, a little hauling, some groundwork skills for manufacturing, etc). It's a slower process this way, but it will let me play what I enjoy.
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Your Royal Highness
Mohawk Campers
19
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Posted - 2013.06.08 13:40:00 -
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If you're in the game for the long haul, carry on with those missions and work up the chain to higher levels. Why? To improve your standings with a corp that will allow you to process and trade stuff more efficiently. A higher corp standing will reduce the amount taken by the corp for each refining or financial transaction at their stations.
Pick your corp carefully. Caldari Navy is a good one if you anticipate doing lots of trading at the Jita trade hub, but they are only based in Caldari regions. If you anticipate roaming around a lot, then pick one like Quafe or Kaalakiota that has a presence across the empire regions. That way, you will always be usually be close to a station where you have cheap refine and trading options across empire space.
Focus on combat missions to improve your ship fitting and combat skills at the same time. You'll need those wherever you end up. We are not amused... |
Nairka Sotken
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.06.08 13:43:00 -
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Interestings posts there , i'm grinding atm standing with a corpo to have a jump clone , since i have the cerebral accelerator for beginner ( wich give +9 everywhere ) i don't want to lose it :)
And yea basicaly my corpo leader is making fun of me beceause it want to FW with few days old char . :)
Anyway , i'm searching a real corporation with active members and noob friendly
Thanks to all of you ! |
Gislin D'ahl
EVE University Ivy League
1
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Posted - 2013.06.08 13:47:00 -
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Tippia wrote:You can do anything you want. The problem is that you seem to be putting the cart before the horse and aiming for something before you know what you want to aim for.
Also, see sig.
Hey Tippia, thanks for the new noob skill plan with the remap break points built in. I tried to post in your blog but it kept timing out. |
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