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Gasm
Colossus Enterprises
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Posted - 2011.10.21 23:27:00 -
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worst feature of eve: cloaks
even would be a massively different, massively better game if these were removed. |
Calathea Sata
State War Academy
2174
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Posted - 2011.10.21 23:35:00 -
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Like many features in the game it is not structurally designed or in any way balanced. The result is many different little things that do not fit into a bigger picture. It's a sandbox! Because there is no such thing as intelligent design everything is emergent.
If you ever want to create a game without putting any effort into the design of the game, do the same. |
Bootleg Jack
Potters Field
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Posted - 2011.10.21 23:39:00 -
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kabooom |
Aurelius Valentius
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.10.21 23:41:00 -
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Is it just that an AFK Cloaker is causing you to have a break-down due to paranoia? or is there some valid argument you can make about them besides you are sick of them and don't like them...
I don't like alot of things in games but that isn't a reason to remove them, how about some logical statements and examples?
1. A cloaked ship cannot hurt you. 2. Cloaks are a valid defense. 3. Cloaked ships don't work well on the offense, this isn't ST with attacking Romulans. 4. FItting one nerfs most ships fits and so they are basically defensive in use.
I see no issues with them, in fact I would like to see them used more, but they limit a ship way to much most of the time to be useful. I think that you need to state your case beyond your sick of them.
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Queue K'Umber
Lucky Golden Emperor's Jade Phoenix Dragon Bistro
6
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Posted - 2011.10.21 23:45:00 -
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This is just, like uh, your opinion, man.
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Large Collidable Object
morons.
386
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Posted - 2011.10.21 23:48:00 -
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Cry me a river morons-áare recruiting. We're good at breeding! |
FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks
159
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Posted - 2011.10.22 00:09:00 -
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Do NOT touch my cloaky ships.
Seriously, let's look at what's out there:
Covert Ops: essentially non-combat. Stealth Bomber: glass cannons, only useful for hit-and-run attacks Recon ships: Relatively low DPS and tank compared to other T2 cruisers Black ops: hahahaha Covert T3s: they give up their offense subsystem slot for coverts, significantly hurting their ability to deal damage.
AFK cloaker got you down? Too bad. |
Famble
Three's a Crowd
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Posted - 2011.10.22 00:12:00 -
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Came expecting a well thought, well articulated argument; left disappointed.
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T' Elk
Clearly Compensating The Dark Triad
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Posted - 2011.10.22 00:26:00 -
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Worst feature of eve: Whiners. <3 Zymurgist Thread locked for no content.
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Rhinanna
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.10.22 00:31:00 -
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Quote:1. A cloaked ship cannot hurt you. 2. Cloaks are a valid defense. 3. Cloaked ships don't work well on the offense, this isn't ST with attacking Romulans. 4. FItting one nerfs most ships fits and so they are basically defensive in use.
1. Really? Did they remove the uncloak button? 2. Name 1 other defence that gives you 99.99999999999999999999999999999% safety in the middle of an enemy system, regardless of enemy numbers or actions. 3. Really? You don't play this game much do you? They are built to work on the offense, thats all they do! 4. No, a minor nerf to sig res. easily countered by a sensor booster is hardly a major nerf to most ships.
-The sword is only as sharp as the one who wields it! Other names: Drenzul (WoT, WoW, Lineage 2, WarH, BloodBowl, BSG, SC2 and lots more)-á |
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Tanya Powers
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
47
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Posted - 2011.10.22 00:41:00 -
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Gasm wrote:worst feature of eve: cloaks eve would be a massively different, massively better game if these were removed.
Why?
It's an awesome tool for both sides, just learn to use it at your advantage. |
David Grogan
The Motley Crew Reborn
95
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Posted - 2011.10.22 00:43:00 -
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Gasm wrote:worst feature of eve: cloaks eve would be a massively different, massively better game if these were removed.
alot of us are so unbelievably SICK of cloak whiners in the game Everytime you buy something that says "made in china" you are helping the rising unemployment in your own country unless your from china, Buy locally produced goods and help create more jobs. |
Vid Eeomeet
Smoke 'n' Mirrors Knights Of Freedoms
1
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Posted - 2011.10.22 00:54:00 -
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Oh God the cloak whine again. Arguing that cloaks are unbalanced because somebody can decloak is almost as bad as complaining that somebody could jump onto a system you are in. People that are bothered by by this would have a panic attack on WH space. Please CCP, don't waste your time with this. We both know that cloaked ships can't actually engage. If system security's an issue, there's a fix for that. It's called good gate camps. And please don't bother me with how it's impossible to catch cloaked ships at a gate as I've been killed that way more than once. |
Nemesis Factor
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
11
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Posted - 2011.10.22 00:57:00 -
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[quote=Rhinanna]Quote: 2. Name 1 other defence that gives you 99.99999999999999999999999999999% safety in the middle of an enemy system, regardless of enemy numbers or actions.
There is not other. So if they removed or nerfed cloaks it would be impossible.
Which would be BAD. Being able to enter enemy territory and collect intel is a good thing. |
Feligast
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.22 00:58:00 -
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Rhinanna wrote:Quote:1. A cloaked ship cannot hurt you. 2. Cloaks are a valid defense. 3. Cloaked ships don't work well on the offense, this isn't ST with attacking Romulans. 4. FItting one nerfs most ships fits and so they are basically defensive in use. 1. Really? Did they remove the uncloak button? 2. Name 1 other defence that gives you 99.99999999999999999999999999999% safety in the middle of an enemy system, regardless of enemy numbers or actions. 3. Really? You don't play this game much do you? They are built to work on the offense, thats all they do! 4. No, a minor nerf to sig res. easily countered by a sensor booster is hardly a major nerf to most ships.
1. If they uncloak, then they're not cloaked, thus cloaking is a non-issue. QED. 2. Docking. Except that is 100%. NERF DOCKING. 3. No. They are built to cloak. Metagaming is not "offense" in the purest sense of the word. 4. So giving up a high slot AND a mid slot is not gimping? Sounds more like you haven't been playing this game very long. And of course you conveniently leave out the cooldown targetting period. If a non-cov ops decloaks next to you and you can't warp out in time, that's your fail. |
Grainsalt
Wings Of The Abyss Shadow of xXDEATHXx
3
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Posted - 2011.10.22 01:00:00 -
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I love afk cloakers. When they decloak I get a KM. |
Jovan Geldon
Lead Farmers Kill It With Fire
95
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Posted - 2011.10.22 01:02:00 -
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Nerf AFK cloak whining threads |
Renan Ruivo
Hipernova Vera Cruz Alliance
207
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Posted - 2011.10.22 01:10:00 -
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16 posts of clueless posters....
OP is obvioulsy talking about Amarr Cloaks and i wholeheartedly agree with him. Cloaks need to be removed so that those people can't make funny faces at us without us seeing it. Sometimes the only difference between a budding genius and a blooming idiot is where they chose to take a stand. |
Karak Terrel
As Far As The eYe can see Chained Reactions
22
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Posted - 2011.10.22 01:15:00 -
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Rhinanna wrote: 2. Name 1 other defence that gives you 99.99999999999999999999999999999% safety in the middle of an enemy system, regardless of enemy numbers or actions.
Only when the last cloaking device is removed from the game will cloak whiners realize that they are now ECCM whiners.
HTFU?
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T' Elk
Clearly Compensating The Dark Triad
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Posted - 2011.10.22 01:19:00 -
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Renan Ruivo wrote:16 posts of clueless posters....
OP is obvioulsy talking about Amarr Cloaks and i wholeheartedly agree with him. Cloaks need to be removed so that those people can't make funny faces at us without us seeing it. lmao <3 Zymurgist Thread locked for no content.
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Thomas Abernathy
Viziam Amarr Empire
4
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Posted - 2011.10.22 02:10:00 -
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What's wrong with my cloak?
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Renan Ruivo
Hipernova Vera Cruz Alliance
207
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Posted - 2011.10.22 02:12:00 -
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Thomas Abernathy wrote:What's wrong with my cloak?
You can pull it over your head and then make funny faces at me, and i wouldn't know. I don't like that. Sometimes the only difference between a budding genius and a blooming idiot is where they chose to take a stand. |
Josie Starshine
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.10.22 03:57:00 -
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Renan Ruivo wrote:Thomas Abernathy wrote:What's wrong with my cloak?
You can pull it over your head and then make funny faces at me, and i wouldn't know. I don't like that.
+1 Excellent reply!
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Vetruvius Valinor
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2011.10.22 04:01:00 -
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Gasm wrote:worst feature of eve: cloaks eve would be a massively different, massively better game if these were removed.
Really? I happen to love them and love the dynamic they add to the game. Even when I am on the wrong end of one. It's not hard to appreciate good work, even if it's work against me.
Cloaks For Life
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Ingvar Angst
Nasty Pope Holding Corp Talocan United
407
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Posted - 2011.10.22 04:02:00 -
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I present to you The Answer to the Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe and Cloaking. Six months in the hole... it changes a man. |
Jooce McNasty
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
25
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Posted - 2011.10.22 04:06:00 -
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Gasm wrote:worst feature of eve: cloaks eve would be a massively different, massively better game if these were removed.
You a TEST pilot?
I hear so many wines in local when I sit cloaked watching them do their daily routines and picking off the stupid ones. How's this sound I won't bring a cloak next time I'll just bring a Falcon alt so you can't target me back. |
Lyrrashae
Crushed Ambitions Universal Consortium
32
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Posted - 2011.10.22 09:55:00 -
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1/10 for actually getting me read this and respond, so good on ya as far (hint: not very) as that goes, OP.
Oh, and: I can haz ur stuffs? I A/F/K cloak in Jita. Does that count? |
Khazarn Areth
The Black Pigs The Black Pigs Alliance
1
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Posted - 2011.10.22 09:59:00 -
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Gasm wrote:worst feature of eve: cloaks eve would be a massively different, massively better game if these were removed.
Ill call the whaaaaaambulance |
ArmyOfMe
TEDDYBEARS. Excuses.
31
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Posted - 2011.10.22 10:02:00 -
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Gasm wrote:worst feature of eve: cloaks eve would be a massively different, massively better game if these were removed. The game would be a massively different, massively better game if local was removed from both low sec and 0,0
CCP, for the love of god boost the deimos..... |
Baron vonDoom
Scorn.
7
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Posted - 2011.10.22 10:04:00 -
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Renan Ruivo wrote:Thomas Abernathy wrote:What's wrong with my cloak?
You can pull it over your head and then make funny faces at me, and i wouldn't know. I don't like that.
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