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Diaphenes
Down The Rabbit Hole Inc
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Posted - 2013.05.29 18:48:00 -
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Right now it will take me 20 days to get in a Thanatos. After Odyssey it will take me 65 days. I'm a wormholer and I don't need to jump anywhere. Great news everyone! We're lowering the required level for ship progression to 3 for the next tier! Oh but here train all these other skills instead that will triple the time it takes! Why was this a good idea? I get that I'll be a better carrier pilot once I get in it, but as a wormholer, Jump drive anything is relatively meaningless. |
Omnathious Deninard
The Scope Gallente Federation
1076
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Posted - 2013.05.29 19:00:00 -
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inject carriers before the patch, then you will be fine. Ideas For Drone Improvement Repourpose Deep Space Scanner Probes |
Diaphenes
Down The Rabbit Hole Inc
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Posted - 2013.05.29 19:06:00 -
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You didn't read the post did you. If I had 20 days then fine, I have less than a week |
Omnathious Deninard
The Scope Gallente Federation
1076
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Posted - 2013.05.29 19:09:00 -
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Diaphenes wrote:You didn't read the post did you. If I had 20 days then fine, I have less than a week Posted: 2013.02.07 13:01 This is when the skill change was announced, that gave you 3 months. Ideas For Drone Improvement Repourpose Deep Space Scanner Probes |
Unkind Omen
Russian Thunder Squad Darkness of Despair
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Posted - 2013.05.29 19:11:00 -
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The changes were anounce along ago. You had your time to modify the training queue. Having BS 5 is just as useless in WH as having all this jump skills so baically you were not supposed to lose anything. |
Diaphenes
Down The Rabbit Hole Inc
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Posted - 2013.05.29 19:15:00 -
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Unkind Omen wrote:The changes were anounce along ago. You had your time to modify the training queue. Having BS 5 is just as useless in WH as having all this jump skills so baically you were not supposed to lose anything.
This makes no sense. I didn't lose anything, I just now can't fly a capital for an extra month. |
xttz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.05.29 19:49:00 -
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Diaphenes wrote:Unkind Omen wrote:The changes were anounce along ago. You had your time to modify the training queue. Having BS 5 is just as useless in WH as having all this jump skills so baically you were not supposed to lose anything. This makes no sense. I didn't lose anything, I just now can't fly a capital for an extra month.
Which part makes no sense? The part where you got 3 month warning, or the part where you whine about it with a week to go? |
xttz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
93
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Posted - 2013.05.29 19:50:00 -
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xttz wrote:Diaphenes wrote:Unkind Omen wrote:The changes were anounce along ago. You had your time to modify the training queue. Having BS 5 is just as useless in WH as having all this jump skills so baically you were not supposed to lose anything. This makes no sense. I didn't lose anything, I just now can't fly a capital for an extra month. Which part makes no sense? The part where you got 3 month warning, or the part where you whine about it with a week to go?
Hey did you notice that he's whining about it in the wrong forum? |
xttz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
93
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Posted - 2013.05.29 19:50:00 -
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xttz wrote:xttz wrote:Diaphenes wrote:Unkind Omen wrote:The changes were anounce along ago. You had your time to modify the training queue. Having BS 5 is just as useless in WH as having all this jump skills so baically you were not supposed to lose anything. This makes no sense. I didn't lose anything, I just now can't fly a capital for an extra month. Which part makes no sense? The part where you got 3 month warning, or the part where you whine about it with a week to go? Hey did you notice that he's whining about it in the wrong forum?
Well spotted! Thanks, me! |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2013.05.29 20:31:00 -
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Just because you're using the ship differently from how it's intended doesn't mean you're entitled to a waiver of its skill requirements. -áMy (mostly boring) Youtube channel. |
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Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
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Posted - 2013.05.29 22:03:00 -
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I will not be using a titan for.. well.. anything except maybe warping around from planet to planet.
I insist on waiving all skills required to doing anything other than that. |
Roime
Ten Thousand Years Shinjiketo
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Posted - 2013.05.29 22:17:00 -
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OP I was in the same boat as you, BS V and no need for the jump skills, but really man the only sensible thing to do was to inject the skills before the patch.
-á- All I really wanted was to build a castle among the stars - |
culo duro
Somali Coast Guard BootCamp
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Posted - 2013.05.30 07:02:00 -
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This is just hilarious...
The chance that you're going to use the jump skills over having BS 5 is so much more likely... Also you're only looking at it one way. "Oh i'll need 65 days to train to a carrier" yeah however it'll take you next to no time if you want to cross train...
Stop bitching about it lol |
Drachiel
Mercury LLC
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Posted - 2013.05.30 09:46:00 -
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Unkind Omen wrote:The changes were anounce along ago. You had your time to modify the training queue. Having BS 5 is just as useless in WH as having all this jump skills so baically you were not supposed to lose anything.
BS 5 is useless in wormholes?
Vindicators and Bhaalgorns want a word with you, out back and preferably with your belt loosened. |
Robert Harrison
Aperture Harmonics K162
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Posted - 2013.05.30 11:29:00 -
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Wormholer checking in... right now I'm 36 days from flying my archon... after the patch I'll be 1 hour. Months to plan ahead make a difference.
The jump skills are only useless if your building a thanny in a c4 or smaller and don't plan to have to ever have to move it around k-space. In which case you may as well sd it. |
Brooks Puuntai
Solar Nexus.
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Posted - 2013.05.30 11:58:00 -
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Is it really a surprise? Having the only real means of movement actually be a requirement to use said ship?
CCP's Motto: If it isn't broken, break it. If it is broken, ignore it.
Idea for Improving NPE. |
iskflakes
485
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Posted - 2013.05.30 12:51:00 -
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I have the same problem with one of my titan holders. It won't be able to inject the titan book before the patch, and the new titan requirements include JDO V/astro V which adds 40 days.
However, I'm not going to complain about it. There was _plenty_ of time to prepare for this, months/years at least. I've got 6 characters skilled up for the destroyer/BC changes, the titan holder only missed the deadline because it was bought too recently.
The jump skills are a de facto requirement for carriers anyway, so now they've replaced battleship V the overall training time to become a useful carrier pilot is reduced.
Stop complaining, you have only yourself to blame. - |
Durzel
Questionable Ethics. Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork
144
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Posted - 2013.05.30 14:29:00 -
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Diaphenes wrote:Unkind Omen wrote:The changes were anounce along ago. You had your time to modify the training queue. Having BS 5 is just as useless in WH as having all this jump skills so baically you were not supposed to lose anything. This makes no sense. I didn't lose anything, I just now can't fly a capital for an extra month. And you probably shouldn't for some time after that. Being able to sit in a capital =/= being able to fly it effectively. |
Nikki Vix
AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse
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Posted - 2013.05.30 18:29:00 -
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Diaphenes wrote:Right now it will take me 20 days to get in a Thanatos. After Odyssey it will take me 65 days. I'm a wormholer and I don't need to jump anywhere. Great news everyone! We're lowering the required level for ship progression to 3 for the next tier! Oh but here train all these other skills instead that will triple the time it takes! Why was this a good idea? I get that I'll be a better carrier pilot once I get in it, but as a wormholer, Jump drive anything is relatively meaningless.
bro, read some devlogs from time to time
http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/
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Cage Man
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Posted - 2013.06.01 07:27:00 -
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Doesn't matter if you had 3 months or even more to get ready, any plans you had previous for skill training will be foiled.. All I needed for a sleipner was minni cruiser 5, 17 days training, not I have to put in 44 days training. Its just another way for CCP to make more money....
Anyone know when the full set of skill changes will be on the test server? I can fly a nighthawk on TQ, but on the test server I can't as it says I am short all the new skills, I have been given all the racial BC to 5, so some of it is already in place. The thick plottens... |
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Rob Crowley
State War Academy
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Posted - 2013.06.01 08:29:00 -
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Cage Man wrote:All I needed for a sleipner was minni cruiser 5, 17 days training, not I have to put in 44 days training. Its just another way for CCP to make more money.... Yeah, stick it to the man! Those evil corporate buggers are always plotting and scheming to get our monies.
Quote:Anyone know when the full set of skill changes will be on the test server? It already is for quite a while.
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culo duro
Somali Coast Guard BootCamp
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Posted - 2013.06.01 10:49:00 -
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Cage Man wrote:Doesn't matter if you had 3 months or even more to get ready, any plans you had previous for skill training will be foiled.. All I needed for a sleipner was minni cruiser 5, 17 days training, not I have to put in 44 days training. Its just another way for CCP to make more money....
Anyone know when the full set of skill changes will be on the test server? I can fly a nighthawk on TQ, but on the test server I can't as it says I am short all the new skills, I have been given all the racial BC to 5, so some of it is already in place.
i don't even feel sorry for you. |
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
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Posted - 2013.06.01 11:05:00 -
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Cage Man wrote:Doesn't matter if you had 3 months or even more to get ready, any plans you had previous for skill training will be foiled.. All I needed for a sleipner was minni cruiser 5, 17 days training, not I have to put in 44 days training. Its just another way for CCP to make more money....
Anyone know when the full set of skill changes will be on the test server? I can fly a nighthawk on TQ, but on the test server I can't as it says I am short all the new skills, I have been given all the racial BC to 5, so some of it is already in place.
You had plenty of advance notice. Why didn't you drop what you were doing like the rest of us and train to inject Command Ships before the change? |
Cage Man
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Posted - 2013.06.02 06:07:00 -
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Alvatore DiMarco wrote:Cage Man wrote:Doesn't matter if you had 3 months or even more to get ready, any plans you had previous for skill training will be foiled.. All I needed for a sleipner was minni cruiser 5, 17 days training, not I have to put in 44 days training. Its just another way for CCP to make more money....
Anyone know when the full set of skill changes will be on the test server? I can fly a nighthawk on TQ, but on the test server I can't as it says I am short all the new skills, I have been given all the racial BC to 5, so some of it is already in place. You had plenty of advance notice. Why didn't you drop what you were doing like the rest of us and train to inject Command Ships before the change?
I have command ships up to 4 already otherwise I wouldn't be flying a nighthawk... did this long before the changes were even announced.. perhaps you should inject the reading skill The thick plottens... |
Cage Man
220
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Posted - 2013.06.02 06:09:00 -
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It already is for quite a while. [/quote]
mm then there is a problem as I can now fly the caldari and amarr command ships on TQ but can't on the test server..
The thick plottens... |
Omnathious Deninard
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.06.02 06:14:00 -
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Cage Man wrote:Rob Crowley wrote: It already is for quite a while.
mm then there is a problem as I can now fly the caldari and amarr command ships on TQ but can't on the test server.. If you have command ships injected and the racial battle cruisers to level 5 you can use the ship even though it says it will take X days to fly it. This is occurring because of the new seeded prerequisites that you don't have trained. Ideas for Drone Improvement-á |
Jack Miton
Aperture Harmonics K162
1925
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Posted - 2013.06.02 12:44:00 -
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Mate, I've had time to train a capital holding toon on every one of my accounts from scratch since the changes were announced 6+ months ago. Just because you don't pay attention doesnt mean you should get special treatment. |
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