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Boldyn
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Posted - 2005.10.24 01:06:00 -
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Edited by: Boldyn on 24/10/2005 01:07:08 nm....
- "Death smiles at us all, all a man can do is smile back" |
Kariss
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Posted - 2005.10.24 01:08:00 -
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Following the rather nicely edited VOTF vid, I watched quite a lot of the MC activity in empire when Yulai was the centre of the universe and I was always rather diappointed in them - watching them sit at gates and gank shuttles rather than 'stick it to them' (the risk-averse method as mentioned already in this thread) seemed to be the preferred tactic and I sat in an amarr system not far from Yulai once while Selenee in her Mega plus 4 others in cruisers and inties sat trying to get an FA Scorp that had them running around the system for about 20mins before they gave up and left - one of the funniest things I've seen in eve and I curse myself for not having had fraps at the time. Personally I believe their reputation for pvp > their ability.
However, as has been said - they get the job done - I guess it's the results that count and not how they are achieved. And on paper the MC stats look good. The battleships killed/lost stats always look good but then again they seem to use HACs more than BS nowadays and I've noticed they lose quite a few of those. They are very professional, make good (if, I suspect, very biased) vids and the website is nice :)
I watched Burn Eden once torment an alliance fleet for what seemed like hours - with dampening/jamming ravens and a cov ops to warp their fleet around more than 100km from the much larger fleet, it was very effective - they have a really bad rep but if you just want to completely take the p**s out of your enemy, they'd be an apporporiate choice. Not sure I'd trust them with my isk though... :D
I've never actually seen KIA fight but, to some, their repution went down a little with the abortive attempt at the BoB contract and also their current 'payback' activities against PA seems a little unprofessional IMO but I've heard they are pretty professional otherwise and their forum behaviour certainly backs that up.
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Macedon Jankolas
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Posted - 2005.10.24 09:19:00 -
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Originally by: Marko Debreault
Originally by: Macedon Jankolas Battle Angels is not worth to mention. They where after my corp, Mafia, and our friends i Dal, Amamake and the sistems around. All our members have -10 in sec status our colse by, so we declared war on them. After that we declared war on them, they disapered from "our" hunting grounds...
As Boldyn and Tadis pointed out, the Battle Angels have fun killing pirates in between our contracts. MAFIA was by no means the only object of our attention, but we were delighted when they war declared us in response.
Let me assure you, Mr. Jankolas, that we did not leave from any pvp pressure you brought to bear, but rather for reasons such as this and this.
What follows is MAFIA ships killed and Battle Angels ships lost while we were messing around. I hope this paints a clearer picture of what actually happened for you, Mr. Jankolas.
KILL/LOSS Assault frigate: 1 / 1 Battleship: 8 / 0 Capsule: 8 / 0 Destroyer: 1 / 0 Frigate: 1 / 0 Interceptor: 1 / 2 Mining barge: 2 / 0 Shuttle: 2 / 0
I also captured Gyzb0's tempest, which was amusing, since usually the pirates are trying to get their prey to eject, not the other way around.
Ah.
Mr. Jankolas.
Our latest contract is up.
See you soon.
Minig barge, i did not even knew some one in Mafia flew them. Well, nice stats, for you that is.. and yes, c u around Mr. Debreault, then you might get a litle harder fight than Gyzbo`s
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Seldarine
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Posted - 2005.10.24 11:17:00 -
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well i think Requiem Inc. deserve a mention, even though we only did the merc thing for a few months we had a staggering success rate for such a small corp. ______________________________
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spoon2
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Posted - 2005.10.24 11:58:00 -
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We fought with Cult and against BA. Cult were very good to fly with and I woulnt want to be on the recieving end. Battle Angels I can say are the most annoying oponents you will ever meet, due to Kodos and his stats they only ever fight when they have better odds on the whole. They have some very good individuals who do fight solo (Makar spings to mind) and basically they gave us lots of problems. Unfortunatly for us last occasion we had very few of our main active pvpers around to fight them. Having said that if you want to annoy a corp or alliance I higly recommend them they know their stuff and it was fun fighting them.
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Julien Derida
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Posted - 2005.10.24 12:27:00 -
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Originally by: Kariss Following the rather nicely edited VOTF vid, I watched quite a lot of the MC activity in empire when Yulai was the centre of the universe and I was always rather diappointed in them - watching them sit at gates and gank shuttles rather than 'stick it to them' (the risk-averse method as mentioned already in this thread) seemed to be the preferred tactic.
You assume too much. Our empire war method has always been about coverage. You can't shut-down empire by sticking in a big blob and waiting for the target to come up with their own fleet. We have pilots roaming all over empire picking off soft targets at the same time as we have a fleet engaging the alliance's PvPers. Clearly if you hang around the hub systems, you will mainly see the former happening. Alliance PvPers don't tend to hang around Yulai in large numbers. However, that doesn't mean that we were not engaging their PvPers head on elsewhere.
Originally by: Kariss I sat in an amarr system not far from Yulai once while Selenee in her Mega plus 4 others in cruisers and inties sat trying to get an FA Scorp that had them running around the system for about 20mins before they gave up and left - one of the funniest things I've seen in eve and I curse myself for not having had fraps at the time.
Haven't you ever chased a BS fully loaded with stabs?
Originally by: Kariss
Personally I believe their reputation for pvp > their ability. However, as has been said - they get the job done - I guess it's the results that count and not how they are achieved. And on paper the MC stats look good. The battleships killed/lost stats always look good but then again they seem to use HACs more than BS nowadays and I've noticed they lose quite a few of those. They are very professional, make good (if, I suspect, very biased) vids and the website is nice :)
I realise that the amount of hype we receive makes us an easy target, but I can't help thinking your being a little unfair. You've clearly seen the dirty side of our work, without seeing the impressive stuff. That doesn't meant that the impressive stuff doesn't happen. ----------------------------------------
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Sarkos
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Posted - 2005.10.24 12:55:00 -
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KIA are a well oiled killing machine. I know they spanked Ushra'Khan's butt and taught us a lot about coordinated fighting. Fortunately, we learned very fast and turned the tide. I have nothing but respect for this fine unit. They were professional and always acted as the businessmen they were, not just killers.
Sarkos Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan
Either free the slaves or we will come and get them.
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Deja Thoris
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Posted - 2005.10.24 13:00:00 -
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Originally by: Seldarine well i think Requiem Inc. deserve a mention, even though we only did the merc thing for a few months we had a staggering success rate for such a small corp.
Having seen you in "action" recently the only thing that staggers me is how far you have fallen.
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Boldyn
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Posted - 2005.10.24 13:25:00 -
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Edited by: Boldyn on 24/10/2005 13:25:06
Originally by: spoon2 Battle Angels I can say are the most annoying oponents you will ever meet, due to Kodos and his stats they only ever fight when they have better odds on the whole. They have some very good individuals who do fight solo (Makar spings to mind) and basically they gave us lots of problems. Unfortunatly for us last occasion we had very few of our main active pvpers around to fight them. Having said that if you want to annoy a corp or alliance I higly recommend them they know their stuff and it was fun fighting them.
You do realise that one line in bold is getting a bit old amongst the people that know the truth? Get over it son, you will live a happier life that way...
- "Death smiles at us all, all a man can do is smile back" |
Dracolich
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Posted - 2005.10.25 01:20:00 -
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Edited by: Dracolich on 25/10/2005 01:21:41 MC(As I have said prior, their coverage of space is unheard of, plus they have Cowboy)
COC(Giving Evol a sweat, is a feat indeed, with a corp this small)
KIA(Have fought along side them(they wouldnt give me/us access to their ts), but they have proven they know their stuff, tho I love Malken, I must disagree with his statements on this one... all corps can hit a deadspot)
Cosmic Fusion(the fastest growing merc corp?, with guys like DrunkenOne, need i say more(could be the new aces high))..
Probably many more that I havent heard of or witnessed _______________________________________
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Seleene
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Posted - 2005.10.25 06:17:00 -
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Edited by: Seleene on 25/10/2005 06:17:39
Originally by: Boonaki If you want to kill your enemy. MC
If you want to **** off your enemy (and kill them). Burn Eden
If you want your enemy to logoff the game and jump off an 8 story building. GHSC
There is an insane amount of truth in the above post.
The MC is a pure military machine. The MC pools its resources to ensure we are as self-reliant as possible. The thing that makes the MC so strong, IMO, is our recruiting procedures. Each MC corp maintains a very low influx of very dedicated and mature people.
Battle Angels are one of the best run "new" merc corps in EVE. Thier pilots are pros all the way. Talk them down all you want. Thier results are self-explainatory.
Guding Hand Social Club are the most ruthless corp in the game. Istvaan would eat babies and sell thier mothers into slavery if a client wished it.
KIA have Eddz, and where Eddz goes the Angel of Death follows. **** KIA off at your own peril.
Burn Eden is not what I'd classify as a pure mercenary corp, but they are known to take jobs for money. Faced with them, you have two choices: frigate blob with -6 scramblers to lock them down and kill them or just self-destruct your larger ships to save the hassle of being a victim to thier infuriating hit and run tactics.
Comsic Fusion seems to be making some waves lately and has a few famous names, but I really don't know much about them.
Celtic Anarchy isn't a bad crew at all either. Apparently they gave some hurt to F.E. recently. Thier CEO is a great guy and seems to have his eyes on the future.
CoC just get better with age. A truly class act. -
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spoon2
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Posted - 2005.10.25 08:27:00 -
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You do realise that one line in bold is getting a bit old amongst the people that know the truth? Get over it son, you will live a happier life that way...
It was actually a compliment Boldyn but I forgot to mention Battle Angels resident Donut ie you. Get over the fact that I didnt mention you as one of the good pilots, as mainly we were in agreement that you,d be better off mining. The truth is you guys spent most of your time switching between SS and your station to change ships dependent on what we were in, its not a new tactic but you guys did it very well and your attacks were well organised. I do recall your own attacks on me not being so well done though :)
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Dash Ripcock
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Posted - 2005.10.25 11:47:00 -
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Mercenary Coalition: The big boys whatever way you look at it, they pack the big hardware and have the manpower to pull it off. Practically created the role of 'professional mercenary' in EVE, these guys are the true heavyweights of the business. Oh, and Seleene is damn fine for a Minmatar lady...
GH-SC: I've read every issue of PC Gamer UK for the last seven years, and the article these guys earned was one of the most excellent I've seen, resulting in a marked jump in players. The ultimate morale-busters of EVE, these cheeky chaps are making waves in MMO history.
KIA: They've had a few hiccups recently, but they're back and kicking ass once again. Sown up tighter than a milk-maids corset, they'll bring the fight to your doorstep no questions asked.
Battle Angels: An absolutely fantastic squad of guys to fly with, a lot of hard work has gone into getting us where we are today and I wouldn't want to fly with anybody else. Our speciality is small squad combat, sautÚed in a sauce of heavy fire and electronic warfare.
Cult Of Cthullhu: From what I understand a small and highly effective outfit, with a rather charismatic set of leaders. Other than that, my information is thin.
BURN EDEN: They most certainly get the kills, and their tactics can be irritating to come up against. However they're missing one critical element that keeps them from being 'up there'; dignity. If their conduct took place in a professional manner, I'd have a lot more respect for their outfit.
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Kwisat Haderach
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Posted - 2005.10.25 12:03:00 -
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Well now with first hand information , my opinions:
MC: Very professional. They are indeed a military machine, good at annihilating opponents that fight back. They do fly expensive ships but this is not the employer's concern. If you have the isk, they are certainly worthy.
BAPWN: Very effective. Considering the size, here you get the most bang for the buck.
K.O.S: Didn't get to learn more about them but they seem well organized and on the right track.
BYDI: Not your usual merc corp. Don't expect them to play by the book and that leads to emotional stress from the target.
Life is a joke, but I don't feel like laughing |
RangerXT
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Posted - 2005.10.26 00:32:00 -
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GHSC completely wiped out my enemies for me. Except that one coward who ran away and stayed dock. Everyone who was brave enough to fight or not smart enough to run died. Excellent work all around. My vengence is complete! Thank you GHSC!!!
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DrunkenOne
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Posted - 2005.10.26 00:54:00 -
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Originally by: Dracolich
Cosmic Fusion(the fastest growing merc corp?, with guys like DrunkenOne, need i say more(could be the new aces high))..
Skillwise I'd say we are quite good, but we have not yet achieved the organization or dedication that groups suchs as cult, BA, or especially MC have achieved. As such we are not yet up to par as some of these other fine merc groups. We don't have multiple t2 BPOs, or dreads, or production alts. However what we do have is a bunch of people who like making things go boom, and therefore prolly don't cost a billion plus to hire like some other groups . Although our current targets stopped tryin to fight us, and I got bored and had to go on a bit of a killing spree up north today.
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Lechap
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Posted - 2005.10.27 07:10:00 -
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I'd like to see more reviews of merceneries from satisfied employers, or are there so few willing to admit to having hired mercs ?
<TomB> hmmm what is that pink thing? <Urban_Mongral>???? <TomB> what is this pink stuff? <TomB> nm chilli sauce on my screen |
Dracolich
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Posted - 2005.10.27 12:22:00 -
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Originally by: DrunkenOne Edited by: DrunkenOne on 26/10/2005 00:58:28 If I had to hire someone to use against an alliance, I'd definately use Burn Eden. Just look at what they have done to ASCN, with their tiny 10 man corp. While MC is excellent at what it does, harrassing empire dwellers and the fringes of 0.0, and lowering the overall morale of a group, Burn Eden actually sits in their space killing all of them.
Yeah, Ravens do nice damage on bs. Surely BE know their stuff(their ship), and Shin Ra is one of the funniest posters on these forums. Okay, they go into my book also then.
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ETS4ME
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Posted - 2005.10.28 01:36:00 -
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Most of the corps that have been named are very good, in there own way. I've been in Burn Eden for alot longer than people think.. and Ive been in over 6 contracts, our price is very high, and we have 100% fullfillment rate.(get the job done). But noone wants to admit they hired us.(lol) Not everyone in Burn Eden spams fourms, chat, ect.. so please refer to thoses players that do and not the whole corp. MC: Good for Big targets Burn Eden: We have made Big targets feel the pain aswell.
Thoses are my top 2 pics, but Im kinda bias.
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Zeraph Dregamon
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Posted - 2005.11.15 09:47:00 -
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Heh man does RangerXT look like an alt ;p But it's all true, and he's not.
BTW, what's changed, any new mercenery corps of relevance ? Any old ones keel over and die ?
GH-SC
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ScoRpS
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Posted - 2005.11.15 12:21:00 -
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wow i am suprised this old thread got a bump, on topic to last post and i cant report any newcomers to the merc scene that i heard of but i would be very interested in to see the return of KIA to the merc scene.
Wassup Eddz
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PMolkenthin
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Posted - 2005.11.15 13:15:00 -
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I've encountered BURN EDEN a couple of times, but I am more impressed by the PVP skills of FINITE HORIZON. I get nervous when I see them appear in local. I would like to see these two corps go head to head though.
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Kickass
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Posted - 2005.11.15 21:55:00 -
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Originally by: PMolkenthin I've encountered BURN EDEN a couple of times, but I am more impressed by the PVP skills of FINITE HORIZON. I get nervous when I see them appear in local. I would like to see these two corps go head to head though.
We have engaged them several times, every time they lost ships and every time they outnumbered us 3 or more to 1. They are good at what they do but thats primarily ganking outnumbered targets.
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Tyrrax Thorrk
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Posted - 2005.11.16 22:06:00 -
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Finite Horizon is the only corp that is less cool than BURN EDEN
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Kurgan Mordugar
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Posted - 2006.01.06 09:58:00 -
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I remember when KIA totally wtfpwnt Ushra'Khan, quite impressive, but that was a long time ago..
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