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Molpadia Devaux
Through The Event Horizon
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Posted - 2011.10.24 23:24:00 -
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Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:Molpadia Devaux wrote:Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:[quote
snip . I get the point. I am just saying it can't be technically called an exploit since he is playing by the rules CCP made. I guess my suggestion to resolve this would be to deny logoff while you have a GCC. If you have GCC and disconnect then your ship stays there completely vulnerable until your GCC is up or you are destroyed. In fact if I recall correctly didn't they already say this is being done? Again...what he is doing isn't technically an exploit. It is probably something every pirate does on a very regular basis and I wouldn't personally call it an exploit. I do however agree that the GCC mechanics need some changing to make them more fair to the gankee.
I think we agree the mechanics are broke, I consider it an exploit, it appears you think of it more in the vein of a workaround.
Like many of the mechanics and rules in Eve, they seem to be introduced with no thought as to how the clever or dishonest can 'workaround' the original intent. I do blame CCP when something isn't working the way they 'thought it would' or hype it as a 'consequence for one's own action' and corrective remedies are delayed or ignored. |
Drake Draconis
Shadow Cadre Shadow Confederation
69
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Posted - 2011.10.24 23:28:00 -
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Smiling Menace wrote:Zanban wrote:Can someone give me the TLDR version off this it looks as if drake is posting his topical book of constant ********* like he did the whole time I was in his alliance and i didn't read them mails either. The gist of this post: The OP got asploded in hi sec and thinks this sucks so wants to make life harder on suicide gankers so he can mine in peace with no interruptions whatsoever. Drake has made 'points' agreeing with this that gankers need a 'challenge' without giving any real indication that this, in fact, is what suicide gankers want. He has made lots of nonsensical arguments about not fitting a tank to a hulk as you will be instapopped by a passing velator because the suicide gankers have all the cards in this scenario. TL;DR version: Drake doesn't want his shiney ships asploded in hi sec and wants CONCORD to sit and mine with him so he has company. Disclaimer: I am not a suicide ganker but it is a fact of eve life. Once again, they pay to play like the rest of us and if that's what they want to do, more power to them for enjoying the game their way.
Wrong.
Drake doesn't give a #### if he loses his ship...if someoen is out to tan my hyde its gonna happen regardless.
I'd just rather prefer to lose that ship with some sort of chance of getting out of it alive....and not hvnig to rely on the CONCORD to "save the day".
If you had been paying attention...youd know that by now.
I have yet to lose my "shiny" ship to a ganker...and im sure it will happen one way or another. I couldn't care less.
I'm only arguing what I see..know...hear...and read.
Stop jumping to conclusions and you may get somewhere with me. |
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
847
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Posted - 2011.10.24 23:28:00 -
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Drake Draconis wrote:If you had bothered to research and do a little reading.
You'd find this is a complete and utter waste of time.
Welcome to EVE Online.
A bit like the activities you pursue and the things you have done in your EVE career, am I right or am I right, Drake?
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki |
Smiling Menace
Star Nebulae Holdings Inc.
14
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Posted - 2011.10.24 23:30:00 -
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Molpadia Devaux wrote:Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:Molpadia Devaux wrote:Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:[quote
snip . I get the point. I am just saying it can't be technically called an exploit since he is playing by the rules CCP made. I guess my suggestion to resolve this would be to deny logoff while you have a GCC. If you have GCC and disconnect then your ship stays there completely vulnerable until your GCC is up or you are destroyed. In fact if I recall correctly didn't they already say this is being done? Again...what he is doing isn't technically an exploit. It is probably something every pirate does on a very regular basis and I wouldn't personally call it an exploit. I do however agree that the GCC mechanics need some changing to make them more fair to the gankee. I think we agree the mechanics are broke, I consider it an exploit, it appears you think of it more in the vein of a workaround. Like many of the mechanics and rules in Eve, they seem to be introduced with no thought as to how the clever or dishonest can 'workaround' the original intent. I do blame CCP when something isn't working the way they 'thought it would' or hype it as a 'consequence for one's own action' and corrective remedies are delayed or ignored.
Ummm wrong thread you replied to?
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Smiling Menace
Star Nebulae Holdings Inc.
14
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Posted - 2011.10.24 23:37:00 -
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Drake Draconis wrote:Smiling Menace wrote:Zanban wrote:Can someone give me the TLDR version off this it looks as if drake is posting his topical book of constant ********* like he did the whole time I was in his alliance and i didn't read them mails either. The gist of this post: The OP got asploded in hi sec and thinks this sucks so wants to make life harder on suicide gankers so he can mine in peace with no interruptions whatsoever. Drake has made 'points' agreeing with this that gankers need a 'challenge' without giving any real indication that this, in fact, is what suicide gankers want. He has made lots of nonsensical arguments about not fitting a tank to a hulk as you will be instapopped by a passing velator because the suicide gankers have all the cards in this scenario. TL;DR version: Drake doesn't want his shiney ships asploded in hi sec and wants CONCORD to sit and mine with him so he has company. Disclaimer: I am not a suicide ganker but it is a fact of eve life. Once again, they pay to play like the rest of us and if that's what they want to do, more power to them for enjoying the game their way. Wrong. Drake doesn't give a #### if he loses his ship...if someoen is out to tan my hyde its gonna happen regardless. I'd just rather prefer to lose that ship with some sort of chance of getting out of it alive....and not hvnig to rely on the CONCORD to "save the day". If you had been paying attention...youd know that by now. I have yet to lose my "shiny" ship to a ganker...and im sure it will happen one way or another. I couldn't care less. I'm only arguing what I see..know...hear...and read. Stop jumping to conclusions and you may get somewhere with me.
I was going to refute your comments yet again but instead i will just 'LOL!'.
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Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
849
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Posted - 2011.10.24 23:42:00 -
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Drake Draconis wrote:
Stop jumping to conclusions and you may get somewhere with me.
Additionally, I think I speak for all of us here when I say that we don't really want go anywhere with you
Especially as you are someone who refers to themselves in the third person, which is incredibly lame and sad and not at all as 'tough guy' as you would like to believe.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki |
Zanban
Stealth Sector The Revenant Order
5
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Posted - 2011.10.24 23:45:00 -
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Drake if you knew how to properly tank a hulk then you won't lose it to a 1 man gank, as people have stated it can be done rather easy. This anit just point at drake, but being ganked is part of the game. Eve is one big pvp server it does suck but put on your big girls undies and deal with it. That or get eve.
People are going to gank people, or bait them, no matter what even if ccp put a penilty on said actions. |
Vertisce Soritenshi
SHADOW WARD Tragedy.
115
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Posted - 2011.10.24 23:45:00 -
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Molpadia Devaux wrote:Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:Molpadia Devaux wrote:Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:[quote
snip . I get the point. I am just saying it can't be technically called an exploit since he is playing by the rules CCP made. I guess my suggestion to resolve this would be to deny logoff while you have a GCC. If you have GCC and disconnect then your ship stays there completely vulnerable until your GCC is up or you are destroyed. In fact if I recall correctly didn't they already say this is being done? Again...what he is doing isn't technically an exploit. It is probably something every pirate does on a very regular basis and I wouldn't personally call it an exploit. I do however agree that the GCC mechanics need some changing to make them more fair to the gankee. I think we agree the mechanics are broke, I consider it an exploit, it appears you think of it more in the vein of a workaround. Like many of the mechanics and rules in Eve, they seem to be introduced with no thought as to how the clever or dishonest can 'workaround' the original intent. I do blame CCP when something isn't working the way they 'thought it would' or hype it as a 'consequence for one's own action' and corrective remedies are delayed or ignored.
Can't argue with ya there.
For the love of God people! Stop feeding the troll! (I know, I know...I fed him by saying that.) Support our boobies!-áLINKY! |
Angry Onions
Martyr's Vengence Test Alliance Please Ignore
123
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Posted - 2011.10.24 23:50:00 -
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Notice how he only argues what he sees, hears and reads, but not what he knows. I FOUND THE PROBLEM! E .-+ ` ' / -+. F Your Carebear tears fuel us |
Drake Draconis
Shadow Cadre Shadow Confederation
69
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Posted - 2011.10.24 23:52:00 -
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Mortis vonShadow wrote:Just some unsolicited advice, Drake: Get off the personal attacks, reguardless if they attack you personally. State your opinion backed by facts, and those that agree with you, will agree with you. But, getting off topic to personally attack someone is no way to win a debate. It belittles you and the whole topic we're debating.
Thank you...however...
The very things you tell me not to do...they did in the first place.
Am I not entitlted to answer the accuser's?
You'd rather I roll over and just take it?
No thanks...that would make him keep it up...and he will not give up. He never does.
That's why I'm hopping someone will test him and see if he really is "All dat".
I already know I'm not when it comes to "Peeveepee".
He sure as hell isn't. |
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Mortis vonShadow
Balanaz Mining and Development Inc.
197
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Posted - 2011.10.25 00:14:00 -
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Drake Draconis wrote: The very things you tell me not to do...they did in the first place.
Am I not entitlted to answer the accuser's?
You'd rather I roll over and just take it?
Understandable, Drake, that they started it so you want to finish it, but in a debate such as the forums are, isn't the place for that type of action.
And no, I would not like to have you roll over and take it, why? Cuz' you have the right to defend yourself, as we all do. But, you don't have the right to personalize that retort.
As it pertains to this debate, as soon as you, or anyone else resorts to personal attacks to make a point, they loose all right to be taken seriously. You of all people should know that.
If they resort to name bashing or humilation tactics, be the bigger man and ignore that type of action and use solid facts of the topic to defend yourself. I know you have it in you to do this.
Some days you're the bug, and some days your the windscreen. -á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á And some days, you're just a man with a gun. |
Drake Draconis
Shadow Cadre Shadow Confederation
69
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Posted - 2011.10.25 00:21:00 -
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Mortis vonShadow wrote:Drake Draconis wrote: The very things you tell me not to do...they did in the first place.
Am I not entitlted to answer the accuser's?
You'd rather I roll over and just take it?
Understandable, Drake, that they started it so you want to finish it, but in a debate such as the forums are, isn't the place for that type of action. And no, I would not like to have you roll over and take it, why? Cuz' you have the right to defend yourself, as we all do. But, you don't have the right to personalize that retort. As it pertains to this debate, as soon as you, or anyone else resorts to personal attacks to make a point, they loose all right to be taken seriously. You of all people should know that. If they resort to name bashing or humilation tactics, be the bigger man and ignore that type of action and use solid facts of the topic to defend yourself. I know you have it in you to do this.
Tell you what.....you see if you can get Jack to understand that....and I'll be more than happy to oblige. I'm not above calling it good and backing off....but this has been going on for nigh 2 to 3 months now.
Just do a saerch..I'm sure you'll find it very easily...if they haven't been scrubbed by the GM's as of yet.
But none-the-less...valid point. |
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
849
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Posted - 2011.10.25 08:35:00 -
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Drake Draconis wrote:
I already know I'm not when it comes to "Peeveepee".
He sure as hell isn't.
ZERO-SEVEN ZERO-SEVEN ZERO-SEVEN
Get some credibility and then come back. In that other thread you were constantly puffing up your chest and spouting about how great you were. Now you've got a little more humility, that's good. But, as others have said, you are extremely quick to attacks others personally, but get incredibly bent out of shape when others do it to you.
To OP: everything's working as intended
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki |
Jack Carrigan
Order of the Shadow The Revenant Order
111
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Posted - 2011.10.25 10:51:00 -
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This thread is still here?!
Oh well:
On topic: - Passive Shield Tank your Hulk - Have an Orca Provide Mining Boosts assigned as Squad Commander - Have Nighthawk with Shield Harmonizing Links providing shield boost - Basilisks providing shield buffs with shield maintenance bots will help - Mechanics work as intended (if this makes the game too hard, you need to find a new game) - If you don't want to risk a Hulk, passive tanked mining Rokh with Orca/Nighthawk support - Pay attention to local and your D-scan - Be mindful of CONCORD being spawned at other locations "War is not measured in terms of who wins or loses, who is right or wrong.-á It is measured in terms of who survives." |
Angry Onions
Martyr's Vengence Test Alliance Please Ignore
128
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Posted - 2011.10.25 16:31:00 -
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To add in some tips Jack missed: - Mine in odd locations, such as grav sites or grab a mission, clear it out of npc's, then mine it (thats 2 ways to get isk in one move!) - If you mine in belts, then move a bit! Don't sit at the warp in point, thats begging for a ganking. - Don't fall asleep!
If these previously mentioned tips n tricks don't work for you, contract everything you own to me ( ISK included) to me :D E .-+ ` ' / -+. F Your Carebear tears fuel us |
Vertisce Soritenshi
SHADOW WARD Tragedy.
116
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Posted - 2011.10.25 17:09:00 -
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You can mine with a completely untanked Hulk...just pay attention and always stay actively aligned with a planet or station or whatever. I used to just bounce back and forth between two places while I mined...never lost a Hulk but was jumped many times.
Now I make better money...no need for the Hulk. Support our boobies!-áLINKY! |
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