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culo duro
Next Level Alcoholics
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Posted - 2013.04.15 07:51:00 -
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StoneCold wrote:I like it how most (it seems) think we-¦re all looking for good fightes o_O
Def. of GF: U dead, me alive.
It would be easier to just go to rancer or so in that case. |
baltec1
Bat Country
5976
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Posted - 2013.04.15 08:07:00 -
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Josef Djugashvilis wrote:baltec1 wrote:When the targets who have far too much isk on their ships and no tank fitted go into low sec we will follow. Yet when folk do fit a tank, you then whinge that it costs too much to gank them.
Wrong.
I am assuming you are mistaking my complaints about the macks base tank which is causing balance issues with the other exhumers. |
Josef Djugashvilis
Acme Mining Corporation
1136
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Posted - 2013.04.15 08:11:00 -
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Psychotic Monk wrote:Josef Djugashvilis wrote: Yet when folk do fit a tank, you then whinge that it costs too much to gank them.
Close. We're bothered when CCP fits the tank for them, since they refuse to.
So, you will opposed to CCP gifting null-sec better production facilities, as some null-sec folk think the present arrangement is just too much like hard work for them. This is not a signature. |
Josef Djugashvilis
Acme Mining Corporation
1136
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Posted - 2013.04.15 08:15:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Josef Djugashvilis wrote:baltec1 wrote:When the targets who have far too much isk on their ships and no tank fitted go into low sec we will follow. Yet when folk do fit a tank, you then whinge that it costs too much to gank them. Wrong. I am assuming you are mistaking my complaints about the macks base tank which is causing balance issues with the other exhumers.
I look forward to CCP making the other exhumers tougher in line with the Mackinaw to keep the balance right. This is not a signature. |
baltec1
Bat Country
5976
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Posted - 2013.04.15 08:16:00 -
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Josef Djugashvilis wrote:
So, you will opposed to CCP gifting null-sec better production facilities, as some null-sec folk think the present arrangement is just too much like hard work for them.
It is impossible to compete with high sec industry. It is entirely possible to tank a barge to be unprofitable to gank.
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culo duro
Next Level Alcoholics
72
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Posted - 2013.04.15 08:17:00 -
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Josef Djugashvilis wrote:baltec1 wrote:Josef Djugashvilis wrote:baltec1 wrote:When the targets who have far too much isk on their ships and no tank fitted go into low sec we will follow. Yet when folk do fit a tank, you then whinge that it costs too much to gank them. Wrong. I am assuming you are mistaking my complaints about the macks base tank which is causing balance issues with the other exhumers. I look forward to CCP making the other exhumers tougher in line with the Mackinaw to keep the balance right.
God forbid putting a tank on your mining vessel right? |
baltec1
Bat Country
5976
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Posted - 2013.04.15 08:17:00 -
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Josef Djugashvilis wrote:I look forward to CCP making the other exhumers tougher in line with the Mackinaw to keep the balance right.
CCP are nerfing the macks tank this summer. |
John Ratcliffe
Sausy Sausages
129
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Posted - 2013.04.15 08:18:00 -
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TheGunslinger42 wrote:Instead of picking on people in highsec who can't fight back and don't want to PVP?
I mean, the mining barges, PVE fit ships, etc that get blown up in low/null/wh space aren't anywhere as near as weak and defenseless as the mining barges and PVE ships in highsec, and they totally wanted me to drop a sb gang on them and kill their ship and pod, so it's ok if I gank them in low/null/wh space, but in highsec? Wow thats just griefing basically!
In case you didn't get it, sarcasm. I'm saying this "go to low/null/wh to pvp" line is stupid.
The honest answer is that it's because they are cowards. They'd get their arses handed to them in Low/Null, so they stay in High where they can have easy victories and feel like men. They will dress it up any number of ways, but that's the reality.
Plus +ºa change, plus c'est la m+¬me chose |
culo duro
Next Level Alcoholics
72
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Posted - 2013.04.15 08:22:00 -
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John Ratcliffe wrote:TheGunslinger42 wrote:Instead of picking on people in highsec who can't fight back and don't want to PVP?
I mean, the mining barges, PVE fit ships, etc that get blown up in low/null/wh space aren't anywhere as near as weak and defenseless as the mining barges and PVE ships in highsec, and they totally wanted me to drop a sb gang on them and kill their ship and pod, so it's ok if I gank them in low/null/wh space, but in highsec? Wow thats just griefing basically!
In case you didn't get it, sarcasm. I'm saying this "go to low/null/wh to pvp" line is stupid. The honest answer is that it's because they are cowards. They'd get their arses handed to them in Low/Null, so they stay in High where they can have easy victories and feel like men. They will dress it up any number of ways, but that's the reality.
god forbid you actually could fight thoes "noobs", which is what your corp should do. Eve is not safe, and as long as you let people pick on you, they'll pick on you. |
Bi-Mi Lansatha
Tactical Universal Research and Development Caldari Industrialist Association
83
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Posted - 2013.04.15 08:28:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:....It is impossible to compete with high sec industry. It is entirely possible to tank a barge to be unprofitable to gank.
A Retriever... no. That is why you use a Procurer.
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TheGunslinger42
All Web Investigations
1220
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Posted - 2013.04.15 08:33:00 -
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John Ratcliffe wrote:The honest answer is that it's because they are cowards. They'd get their arses handed to them in Low/Null, so they stay in High where they can have easy victories and feel like men. They will dress it up any number of ways, but that's the reality.
Sigh. You're kind of missing the point. I'm saying that plenty of the "fights" in low/null are basically just one sided, low-risk ganks the same as what happens in highsec, yet when it's done in low/null you accept it, but when it's done in high you start ranting about them being "cowards" or whatever other crap to make yourself feel superior.
Why do so many people think it is fine to gank fairly weak and helpless miners or ratters in low/null, but not in highsec?
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John Ratcliffe
Sausy Sausages
129
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Posted - 2013.04.15 08:41:00 -
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TheGunslinger42 wrote:Sigh. You're kind of missing the point. I'm saying that plenty of the "fights" in low/null are basically just one sided, low-risk ganks the same as what happens in highsec, yet when it's done in low/null you accept it, but when it's done in high you start ranting about them being "cowards" or whatever other crap to make yourself feel superior.
Why do so many people think it is fine to gank fairly weak and helpless miners or ratters in low/null, but not in highsec?
Stop trying to justify yourself. You're lily-livered, we get it. Plus +ºa change, plus c'est la m+¬me chose |
StoneCold
Somali Coast Guard Authority
115
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Posted - 2013.04.15 08:41:00 -
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John Ratcliffe wrote:TheGunslinger42 wrote:
-rabble rabble-
The honest answer is that it's because they are cowards. They'd get their arses handed to them in Low/Null, so they stay in High where they can have easy victories and feel like men. They will dress it up any number of ways, but that's the reality.
I felt insulted and was about to say "This will be dealt with". Then i watched your lossboard and left satisfied. Someone else allready took care about your corp. Is it possible that your rant is fueled by butthurtness?
Btw, just because i think you might want to be interrested in bulk-charon-deals: WTS Charons.
For Hire Psychotic Monk for CSM |
John Ratcliffe
Sausy Sausages
129
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Posted - 2013.04.15 08:44:00 -
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StoneCold wrote: I felt insulted and was about to say "This will be dealt with".
I'm shaking in my boots. Deal with it .
Plus +ºa change, plus c'est la m+¬me chose |
culo duro
Next Level Alcoholics
72
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Posted - 2013.04.15 08:44:00 -
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StoneCold wrote:John Ratcliffe wrote:TheGunslinger42 wrote:
-rabble rabble-
The honest answer is that it's because they are cowards. They'd get their arses handed to them in Low/Null, so they stay in High where they can have easy victories and feel like men. They will dress it up any number of ways, but that's the reality. I felt insulted and was about to say "This will be dealt with". Then i watched your lossboard and left satisfied. Someone else allready took care about your corp. Is it possible that your rant is fueled by butthurtness? Btw, just because i think you might want to be interrested in bulk-charon-deals: WTS Charons.
just stupid. http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=14747145 |
TheGunslinger42
All Web Investigations
1220
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Posted - 2013.04.15 08:45:00 -
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John Ratcliffe wrote:TheGunslinger42 wrote:Sigh. You're kind of missing the point. I'm saying that plenty of the "fights" in low/null are basically just one sided, low-risk ganks the same as what happens in highsec, yet when it's done in low/null you accept it, but when it's done in high you start ranting about them being "cowards" or whatever other crap to make yourself feel superior.
Why do so many people think it is fine to gank fairly weak and helpless miners or ratters in low/null, but not in highsec?
Stop trying to justify yourself. You're lily-livered, we get it. And I expect most people don't think it's fine to gank weak and helpless miners. It's just griefing. Most people would agree consensual PVP in Low/Null is fine, but that's not the same thing is it?
So you think non-consensual PVP in low/null is griefing too?
Oh my, lmao |
Cannibal Kane
Somali Coast Guard Authority
1652
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Posted - 2013.04.15 08:47:00 -
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According to the mentally of some here they confirm that i am really afraid of Null.. Low... and WH.
Even though my start in EVE was low/null.
I hated the many vs many although it really becomes many vs 1 gameplay. The constant traveling to find 1 target willing to undock only to warp in triage carriers to support his 1 battleship.
People in Highsec... Targets that make me ISK. I don't need to mine/rat to make ISK... Never.
Remove wars from Highsec I only see one thing happening, more people moving into highsec to stay safe. Say what you like, I know the majority of null/low guys are just as afraid of loosing his ship as the person in highsec. Which is why they all dock up the second a neut enters system. Yes you get your few that actually undock and go on the chase but 90% won't unless there is not some sort of fleet going with support.
EDIT: I agree with my mate StoneCold... John Ratcliffe needs to be dealt with and will be... soon.tm "I saw him fight by the monument in Jita. -áHe flowed in his Machariel like a Shinto spirit, 800MM shells sprouting in his passing. -áHis hair flowed in the corona of his target's warp core breach. -áIt was truly majestic. -áAnd while everyone stared in awe I stole the loot and ran off.-áBecause I am like that." --áNEONOVUS |
flakeys
Arkham Innovations Paper Tiger Coalition
998
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Posted - 2013.04.15 08:49:00 -
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baltec1 wrote: I can attack you at any time in space and even reach into stations to get you.
At some point grandeur is really close to stupidity .....
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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John Ratcliffe
Sausy Sausages
129
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Posted - 2013.04.15 08:53:00 -
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The harshest lessons are the best remembered. Weren't you a n00b once?
Plus +ºa change, plus c'est la m+¬me chose |
John Ratcliffe
Sausy Sausages
129
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Posted - 2013.04.15 08:59:00 -
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Cannibal Kane wrote:EDIT: I agree with my mate StoneCold... John Ratcliffe needs to be dealt with and will be... soon.tm
Well when you finish giving your 'mate' a reach around, come find us in Poinen. There's 3 of us, so bring equal numbers if you're not a clown shoes. Anytime after 2030 BST. Plus +ºa change, plus c'est la m+¬me chose |
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culo duro
Next Level Alcoholics
72
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Posted - 2013.04.15 09:10:00 -
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John Ratcliffe wrote:Cannibal Kane wrote:EDIT: I agree with my mate StoneCold... John Ratcliffe needs to be dealt with and will be... soon.tm Well when you finish giving your 'mate' a reach around, come find us in Poinen. There's 3 of us, so bring equal numbers if you're not a clown shoes. Anytime after 2030 BST.
Kane will just show up alone and win... that's how he does it. :p |
flakeys
Arkham Innovations Paper Tiger Coalition
998
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Posted - 2013.04.15 09:10:00 -
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John Ratcliffe wrote:Cannibal Kane wrote:EDIT: I agree with my mate StoneCold... John Ratcliffe needs to be dealt with and will be... soon.tm Well when you finish giving your 'mate' a reach around, come find us in Poinen. There's 3 of us, so bring equal numbers if you're not a clown shoes. Anytime after 2030 BST.
I'm unsure if you know kane ... if you did you'd know he is not one shy of bringing equal or lower numbers.Let's just say he knows the pvp game better then most.
That said it is funny kane that this ''needs to be dealt with'' because ''oh my somoene talked bad about high sec gankers/greifers'' on the public forums .
This ain't high school son ....
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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baltec1
Bat Country
5976
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Posted - 2013.04.15 09:11:00 -
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flakeys wrote:baltec1 wrote: I can attack you at any time in space and even reach into stations to get you. At some point grandeur is really close to stupidity ..... Simply pointing out a fact. |
StoneCold
Somali Coast Guard Authority
116
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Posted - 2013.04.15 09:12:00 -
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Was about to say if there-¦s only 3 of you we or Kane alone got not a chance to bring something close to an "even" number. For Hire Psychotic Monk for CSM |
Cannibal Kane
Somali Coast Guard Authority
1652
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Posted - 2013.04.15 09:12:00 -
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flakeys wrote:John Ratcliffe wrote:Cannibal Kane wrote:EDIT: I agree with my mate StoneCold... John Ratcliffe needs to be dealt with and will be... soon.tm Well when you finish giving your 'mate' a reach around, come find us in Poinen. There's 3 of us, so bring equal numbers if you're not a clown shoes. Anytime after 2030 BST. I'm unsure if you know kane ... if you did you'd know he is not one shy of bringing equal or lower numbers.Let's just say he knows the pvp game better then most. That said it is funny kane that this ''needs to be dealt with'' because ''oh my somoene talked bad about high sec gankers/greifers'' on the public forums . This ain't high school son ....
I know it just seemed like the right thing to say due to the mentally in this thread. "I saw him fight by the monument in Jita. -áHe flowed in his Machariel like a Shinto spirit, 800MM shells sprouting in his passing. -áHis hair flowed in the corona of his target's warp core breach. -áIt was truly majestic. -áAnd while everyone stared in awe I stole the loot and ran off.-áBecause I am like that." --áNEONOVUS |
Dave Stark
2586
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Posted - 2013.04.15 09:13:00 -
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John Ratcliffe wrote:Cannibal Kane wrote:EDIT: I agree with my mate StoneCold... John Ratcliffe needs to be dealt with and will be... soon.tm Well when you finish giving your 'mate' a reach around, come find us in Poinen. There's 3 of us, so bring equal numbers if you're not a clown shoes. Anytime after 2030 BST.
please record this encounter, i'd be ever so interested in watching it. |
John Ratcliffe
Sausy Sausages
129
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Posted - 2013.04.15 09:13:00 -
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flakeys wrote:I'm unsure if you know kane ... if you did you'd know he is not one shy of bringing equal or lower numbers.Let's just say he knows the pvp game better then most
I don't know him and I don't care what his reputation is. I'm not scared of a fight and I'm not scared of losing ships. Plus +ºa change, plus c'est la m+¬me chose |
baltec1
Bat Country
5976
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Posted - 2013.04.15 09:15:00 -
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Bi-Mi Lansatha wrote:baltec1 wrote:....It is impossible to compete with high sec industry. It is entirely possible to tank a barge to be unprofitable to gank.
A Retriever... no. That is why you use a Procurer.
You can make them unprofitable to gank in 0.7 space and up. |
Anunzi
High House Of Shadows Tribal Band
92
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Posted - 2013.04.15 09:20:00 -
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John Ratcliffe wrote:The harshest lessons are the best remembered. Weren't you a n00b once?
Everyone was a noob once. however, noobs donGÇÖt fly round in 3.8 billion isk mission Ravens, only older players can afford that.
You got smacked because you werenGÇÖt paying attention and lost a bling boat, so you thought youGÇÖd come here and throw ad hominem attacks at members of the forum. All you are doing is proving the OP correct.
Oh, and before you start, no I donGÇÖt gank in high sec. Never have. However that does not mean I donGÇÖt think itGÇÖs a perfectly viable pastime for those who chose to engage in it.
Malcanis for CSM8, Its about damn time.
A vote for Malcanis is a vote for bacon! |
TheGunslinger42
All Web Investigations
1220
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Posted - 2013.04.15 09:23:00 -
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Newbies don't fly around in pimped out 3 billion isk mission running ships.
Baddies do that. |
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