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Yiliana
Renzler Industries
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Posted - 2013.03.13 12:58:00 -
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High = Torpedo Launcher II Torpedo Launcher II Torpedo Launcher II Torpedo Launcher II Drone Link Augmentor I Drone Link Augmentor I
Mid = Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron Omnidirectional Link I Omnidirectional Link I Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Invulnerability Field II True Sansha Cap Booster
Low = Shield Power Relay II Shield Power Relay II Ballistic Control Unit II Ballistic Control Unit II Ballistic Control Unit II True Sansha Kinetic Armor Hardner
Charges = Mjolnir Rage Torpedo Cap Booster 800
Drones = Garde II
Rigs = Large Core Defence Field Purger I Large Core Defence Field Purger I Large Core Defence Field Purger I
I am in Sov space and it is Semi-safe. If you have sugestions for change please put.
- Thanks! |
Tsukino Stareine
EVE University Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.03.13 14:31:00 -
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Why bcu Why armour hardener
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FT Diomedes
The Graduates RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2013.03.13 16:23:00 -
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Proper lows should be 3x DDA, 2x BCU, 1x DCU II or SPR. Drop the cap booster and armor hardener. Bring along some EM sentry drones for longer ranged DPS. Consider cruise launchers, unless you for missile range rigs. Paper DPS is lower, applied DPS is higher. |
Kodama Ikari
Concordiat Spaceship Samurai
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Posted - 2013.03.13 16:28:00 -
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This has to be some kind of joke. Some first-hand PI tips |
Xayder
NED-Clan Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.03.13 16:47:00 -
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Yiliana contract you're rattle to me and I fit it for you I don't always post, But when i post I do it with my main |
Yiliana
Renzler Industries
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Posted - 2013.03.13 18:38:00 -
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FT Diomedes wrote:Proper lows should be 3x DDA, 2x BCU, 1x DCU II or SPR. Drop the cap booster and armor hardener. Bring along some EM sentry drones for longer ranged DPS. Consider cruise launchers, unless you for missile range rigs. Paper DPS is lower, applied DPS is higher.
Something like this for passive tank:
[Rattlesnake, Sanshas] Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Shield Power Relay II
Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II EM Ward Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron Omnidirectional Tracking Link II Omnidirectional Tracking Link II
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Cruise Missile Black Eagle Drone Link Augmentor Improved Cloaking Device II
Large Core Defense Field Purger II Large Core Defense Field Purger II Large Core Defense Field Purger II
Ogre II x5 Garde II x5 Curator II x5 Hobgoblin II x5
Or a slightly more blingy active-tanked version:
[Rattlesnake, Anomalies copy 1] Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Dread Guristas Ballistic Control System Dread Guristas Ballistic Control System Damage Control II
Gist B-Type Large Shield Booster Shield Boost Amplifier II Gist A-Type EM Ward Field Cap Recharger II Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron Omnidirectional Tracking Link II Omnidirectional Tracking Link II
Torpedo Launcher II, Scourge Torpedo Torpedo Launcher II, Scourge Torpedo Torpedo Launcher II, Scourge Torpedo Torpedo Launcher II, Scourge Torpedo Black Eagle Drone Link Augmentor Small Tractor Beam II
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I Large Hydraulic Bay Thrusters II Large Rocket Fuel Cache Partition I
Ogre II x5 Garde II x5 Curator II x5 Hobgoblin II x5
On the Passive fit can i use Torpedo's? |
Yiliana
Renzler Industries
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Posted - 2013.03.13 18:39:00 -
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Kodama Ikari wrote:This has to be some kind of joke.
Nope, I am just new at fitting Rattlesnakes and want some tips/info. |
Yiliana
Renzler Industries
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Posted - 2013.03.13 18:39:00 -
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Xayder wrote:Yiliana contract you're rattle to me and I fit it for you
I don't think so.... Funny though. |
Charlie Jacobson
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Posted - 2013.03.13 21:16:00 -
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Yiliana wrote:Kodama Ikari wrote:This has to be some kind of joke. Nope, I am just new at fitting Rattlesnakes and want some tips/info.
A general rule for fitting all ships: Don't mix tanks. Having an armor hardener on a shield tanked ship is really wasteful. |
Holgrak Blacksmith
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.03.13 21:40:00 -
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FT Diomedes wrote:Proper lows should be 3x DDA, 2x BCU, 1x DCU II or SPR. Drop the cap booster and armor hardener. Bring along some EM sentry drones for longer ranged DPS. Consider cruise launchers, unless you for missile range rigs. Paper DPS is lower, applied DPS is higher.
Something like this for passive tank:
[Rattlesnake, Sanshas] Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Shield Power Relay II
Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II EM Ward Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron Omnidirectional Tracking Link II Omnidirectional Tracking Link II
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Cruise Missile Black Eagle Drone Link Augmentor Improved Cloaking Device II
Large Core Defense Field Purger II Large Core Defense Field Purger II Large Core Defense Field Purger II
Ogre II x5 Garde II x5 Curator II x5 Hobgoblin II x5
Or a slightly more blingy active-tanked version:
[Rattlesnake, Anomalies copy 1] Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Dread Guristas Ballistic Control System Dread Guristas Ballistic Control System Damage Control II
Gist B-Type Large Shield Booster Shield Boost Amplifier II Gist A-Type EM Ward Field Cap Recharger II Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron Omnidirectional Tracking Link II Omnidirectional Tracking Link II
Torpedo Launcher II, Scourge Torpedo Torpedo Launcher II, Scourge Torpedo Torpedo Launcher II, Scourge Torpedo Torpedo Launcher II, Scourge Torpedo Black Eagle Drone Link Augmentor Small Tractor Beam II
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I Large Hydraulic Bay Thrusters II Large Rocket Fuel Cache Partition I
Ogre II x5 Garde II x5 Curator II x5 Hobgoblin II x5
Your shield regen/sec will be very low on your passive fit. Might be ok with longer range sentries, but I think that tank would struggle within garde optimal. |
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Yiliana
Renzler Industries
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Posted - 2013.03.13 22:06:00 -
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Holgrak Blacksmith wrote:FT Diomedes wrote:Proper lows should be 3x DDA, 2x BCU, 1x DCU II or SPR. Drop the cap booster and armor hardener. Bring along some EM sentry drones for longer ranged DPS. Consider cruise launchers, unless you for missile range rigs. Paper DPS is lower, applied DPS is higher.
Something like this for passive tank:
[Rattlesnake, Sanshas] Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Shield Power Relay II
Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II EM Ward Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron Omnidirectional Tracking Link II Omnidirectional Tracking Link II
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Cruise Missile Black Eagle Drone Link Augmentor Improved Cloaking Device II
Large Core Defense Field Purger II Large Core Defense Field Purger II Large Core Defense Field Purger II
Ogre II x5 Garde II x5 Curator II x5 Hobgoblin II x5
Or a slightly more blingy active-tanked version:
[Rattlesnake, Anomalies copy 1] Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Dread Guristas Ballistic Control System Dread Guristas Ballistic Control System Damage Control II
Gist B-Type Large Shield Booster Shield Boost Amplifier II Gist A-Type EM Ward Field Cap Recharger II Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron Omnidirectional Tracking Link II Omnidirectional Tracking Link II
Torpedo Launcher II, Scourge Torpedo Torpedo Launcher II, Scourge Torpedo Torpedo Launcher II, Scourge Torpedo Torpedo Launcher II, Scourge Torpedo Black Eagle Drone Link Augmentor Small Tractor Beam II
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I Large Hydraulic Bay Thrusters II Large Rocket Fuel Cache Partition I
Ogre II x5 Garde II x5 Curator II x5 Hobgoblin II x5 Your shield regen/sec will be very low on your passive fit. Might be ok with longer range sentries, but I think that tank would struggle within garde optimal. Can you post your own fit than please! Thanks!
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FT Diomedes
The Graduates RAZOR Alliance
138
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Posted - 2013.03.13 22:52:00 -
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If you find the tank is insufficient on the passive tank, then replace BCU's with more SPRs. I think that is enough tank for Anomalies.
Torpedos will probably not have sufficient range without range rigs to effectively use them on a sentry boat, unless you have range rigs. |
Detenal
Imperial Combat Engineers Empire of Arcadia
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Posted - 2013.03.14 07:42:00 -
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[Rattlesnake, PVE] Damage Control II Shield Power Relay II Shield Power Relay II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Large Micro Jump Drive Omnidirectional Tracking Link II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile Drone Link Augmentor II Drone Link Augmentor II
Large Core Defense Field Purger I Large Core Defense Field Purger I Large Core Defense Field Purger I
Hobgoblin II x10 Hammerhead II x10 Ogre II x5 Garde II x5
My fit, piece of cake. |
Nordanvind
Ashfell Celestial Equilibrium POD-SQUAD
2
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Posted - 2013.03.14 20:34:00 -
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The rattlesnake is easily my favourite mission ship so far. Here is my fitting.
High = Cruise Missile Launcher II Cruise Missile Launcher II Cruise Missile Launcher II Cruise Missile Launcher II Drone Link Augmentor II Drone Link Augmentor II
Mid = Large Micro Jump Drive Omnidirectional Link II Omnidirectional Link II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Low = Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II
Rigs = Large Core Defense Field Purger I Large Core Defense Field Purger I Large Core Defense Field Purger I
Could switch the micro jump drive for another shield extender, but it's a really nifty tool. Your tank shouldn't break easily but at times the damage might be too high in some mission or when you clumsily pull too many groups, or when the enemy insists on targeting your drones instead of you. Together with Wardens you should be able to hit far beyond 80km depending on your skills, for a lot of damage, which works splendid together with the micro jump drive. I imagine it could come in handy in null as well in case you face a gank squad.
I use two invulnerability fields purely out of laziness, change both or one of them to fit whatever damage type you are fighting. Oh, and here is a piece of advice; don't fit drone ships with turret or missile enhancers. Your main damage comes from drones, focus on maximising their potential instead. Four slots for launchers just wont cut it. |
Yiliana
Renzler Industries
0
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Posted - 2013.03.15 12:34:00 -
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Nordanvind wrote:The rattlesnake is easily my favourite mission ship so far. Here is my fitting.
High = Cruise Missile Launcher II Cruise Missile Launcher II Cruise Missile Launcher II Cruise Missile Launcher II Drone Link Augmentor II Drone Link Augmentor II
Mid = Large Micro Jump Drive Omnidirectional Link II Omnidirectional Link II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Low = Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II
Rigs = Large Core Defense Field Purger I Large Core Defense Field Purger I Large Core Defense Field Purger I
Could switch the micro jump drive for another shield extender, but it's a really nifty tool. Your tank shouldn't break easily but at times the damage might be too high in some mission or when you clumsily pull too many groups, or when the enemy insists on targeting your drones instead of you. Together with Wardens you should be able to hit far beyond 80km depending on your skills, for a lot of damage, which works splendid together with the micro jump drive. I imagine it could come in handy in null as well in case you face a gank squad.
I use two invulnerability fields purely out of laziness, change both or one of them to fit whatever damage type you are fighting. Oh, and here is a piece of advice; don't fit drone ships with turret or missile enhancers. Your main damage comes from drones, focus on maximising their potential instead. Four slots for launchers just wont cut it. Can you post a TP's fit? And yes I want a decent tank. (Hopefully Passive) and just let drones tear threw all the smaller class ships, while I use an AB/MWD for catching up to and killing the BS's; with the TP's. |
Chi'Nane T'Kal
Interminatus Aeterna Anima
52
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Posted - 2013.03.15 13:04:00 -
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Yiliana wrote: Can you post a TP's fit? And yes I want a decent tank. (Hopefully Passive) and just let drones tear threw all the smaller class ships, while I use an AB/MWD for catching up to and killing the BS's; with the TP's.
Related to the strategy: You want to play catch with the BSs while your stationary sentry drones are attacking the smaller ships? - Wanna go back to pick the sentries up later? - Pick your poison: dealing with aggro on your drones with the new AI OR sentries not hitting frigs because they generate too much transversal coming after you.
Related to the fitting idea: - Passive Rattlesnake was a concept worth thinking about before drone damage mods. It is a very slot intensive concept to generate substantial tank with and those slots can be better used for damage now. Do yourself a favor and use a booster.
FT Diomedes wrote: [...] Omnidirectional Tracking Link II Omnidirectional Tracking Link II [...] Black Eagle Drone Link Augmentor [...]
Is that some kind of trap to generate a 200M drop chance?
Changing the tracking links for faction version is well worth the investment (at 40M per), but 200M for 2km control range compared to T2 is pretty ridiculous.
P.S. As a general rule, if you prefer to do damage with Torps or Cruise missiles the Rattlesnake is not a good choice, it's a droneboat. For Torps you should aim for a Golem, for Cruise Missiles you should pick between CNR or SNI, depending if your emphasis is on offense or defense. |
GyokZoli
Sanctum of Citizens
0
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Posted - 2013.03.22 15:49:00 -
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[Rattlesnake, active] Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II
Domination 100MN Microwarpdrive Gistum C-Type Medium Shield Booster Caldari Navy Adaptive Invulnerability Field Gist B-Type EM Ward Field Gist B-Type Thermic Dissipation Field Federation Navy Omnidirectional Tracking Link Federation Navy Omnidirectional Tracking Link
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Cruise Missile Drone Link Augmentor II Drone Link Augmentor II
Large Core Defense Operational Solidifier I Large Core Defense Operational Solidifier I Large Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer I
Garde II x5 Curator II x5 Warden II x5 Hobgoblin II x5
I maximized the DPS and I don't even need the Shield booster in most missions... Using passive tanks is just a waste of DPS for this ship.
Ohh yeah, it's a mission ship. |
Sonkut
Network Gel Strategic Alliance
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Posted - 2013.03.22 16:47:00 -
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Yiliana wrote:High = Torpedo Launcher II Torpedo Launcher II Torpedo Launcher II Torpedo Launcher II
Mid = True Sansha Cap Booster
Low = True Sansha Kinetic Armor Hardner
Charges = Cap Booster 800
You must be joking.
+1 to above, however i would:
[Rattlesnake, active] Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II
Domination 100MN Microwarpdrive Gistum C-Type Medium Shield Booster Caldari Navy Adaptive Invulnerability Field Gist B-Type EM Ward Field Gist B-Type Thermic Dissipation Field Federation Navy Omnidirectional Tracking Link Federation Navy Omnidirectional Tracking Link
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Cruise Missile Drone Link Augmentor II Drone Link Augmentor II
Large Core Defense Operational Solidifier I Large Core Defense Operational Solidifier I Large Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer I
Garde II x5 Curator II x5 Warden II x5 Hobgoblin II x5
More than 3 damage boosts aren't worth it, you will get more on a rattlesnake with 3 of each.
In addition:
Quote:Can you post a TP's fit? And yes I want a decent tank. (Hopefully Passive) and just let drones tear threw all the smaller class ships, while I use an AB/MWD for catching up to and killing the BS's; with the TP's. your doing it wrong. your main dps on the rattle IS your drones. Use sentry's, dont be daft. Feel free to contact me in game if you want any advice. |
Orlacc
337
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Posted - 2013.03.22 18:09:00 -
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Drones are the DPS.. "Measure Twice, Cut Once." |
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