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Bloody Wench
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Posted - 2011.10.12 01:26:00 -
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I currently have a worthless Hisec Dickstar under seige.
A POS rescue team and gunners are available but in another Corp in a far far away land. The 2-man hisec Corp is under a war declaration.
Questions:
Can, as neutrals, the rescue team rep the POS in hisec? (I'm not prepared to move characters into the hisec corp like that for the sake of 500M isk.) If they can, how will agression flagging work? Do I need to set the rescue team +10. Will setting them +10 give them access to the Force Field?
I have plenty of time, there's only 10 pilots acting against the POS, it's going to take them all day to reinforce it and another 41 hours after that.
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FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks
112
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Posted - 2011.10.12 02:03:00 -
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Anyone repping the POS will get aggression with your wartargets.
I've never set up a POS, so I'm going to have to speculate on this part:
I *think* you can configure the POS to allow blues in. If not, give them your shield password and then change it later.
You shouldn't need to set them to any standing to be able to rep POS. |

Soldarius
Peek-A-Boo Bombers
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Posted - 2011.10.12 02:19:00 -
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You can configure the POS to allow persons or organizations of certain standings access inside the shields. However, you cannot target from inside the shields. You have to go out. So you cannot rep from inside the shields.
As stated above, the reppers will become valid targets for the attackers as soon as they start repping.
Since I seriously doubt they will sit at your POS for the extended amount of time needed to actually ref the darn thing with that size of fleet, I'm sure you can find the time to rep it while they are away. Either that or just take the darn thing down. "How do you kill that which has no life?" |

Scrapyard Bob
EVE University Ivy League
3
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Posted - 2011.10.12 03:30:00 -
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Anyone repping the POS modules or POS shields have to be outside the shields and they will get flagged as valid targets to the war targets. I suggest cheap "POSprey" fits for repping the shield, otherwise you'll need mostly armor reppers with a touch of hull repping for the incapacitated modules.
You can easily give them the POS shield password, which will let them enter the shield even without standings. (Set a temporarly password for that day or three, change it again afterwards.) The advantage here is that they can rep modules while staying close to the shield, when enemy WTs show up, they can just slide within the shield. Any pilots using the shield password have to re-enter it on their ships every time they session change.
As defenses get destroyed and you run out of spare batteries to put online, start putting your shield hardeners online. That turns it into a brickstar which increases the amount of EHP that they have to burn through to put it into reinforced. And before the shield drops below 50%, you need to unanchor and evac any arrays inside the tower that you want to save (sounds like you don't have any).
POS gunners and pre-anchored weapons are the only way to drive off attackers (combined with a fleet of defenders). ECM just slows the attackers down, hopefully long enough that you can mobilize a fleet to drive them off. There's also the guard dog theory, having a ECM-centric defense in hi-sec generally means that opportunistic attackers will go elsewhere for easier pickings, but it won't stop a determined attacker. |

Bloody Wench
30
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Posted - 2011.10.12 03:35:00 -
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Well I have taken most everything out, there's just 1 lab left, and that has less then a day to complete its job, so I'd like to see that complete if possible. If it doesn't complete before they reinforce then I've lost 5 days ME on some RAM prints.
High stakes I know...
I've already decided that I'm not going to attempt to save it.
If it does go down, I'm going to train my Scientific Networking to 3! and put another one somewhere else. It was/is a bit far from Jita anyway (18 jumps), I should've looked for something closer to begin with. |

Bloody Wench
30
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Posted - 2011.10.12 05:30:00 -
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Anyways...thanks for the advice, we'll see how it pans out. |

Archeris vane
Pegasus Empire
2
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Posted - 2011.10.12 12:15:00 -
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it's gonna go down, there is no time to rep it. is that all? |

Skippermonkey
Tactical Knightmare
89
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Posted - 2011.10.12 12:24:00 -
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all is lost!
:'( |

Mireidor
Tactical Knightmare
1
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Posted - 2011.10.12 18:06:00 -
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I heard that blowing up a dickstar that isn't being actively defended is boring. So get your defense fleet there so the attackers don't get bored. |

Zixie Draco
Tactical Knightmare
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Posted - 2011.10.12 18:13:00 -
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Mireidor wrote:I heard that blowing up a dickstar that isn't being actively defended is boring. So get your defense fleet there so the attackers don't get bored.
Confirming this strategy.
Otherwise, left to their own devices, they may up with a conga line or something silly like that...
Would you like a kitten? |
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Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1729
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Posted - 2011.10.12 19:30:00 -
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Unless your enemy can get 50 dudes in battleships together and sustain fire on the dickstar for about four or five hours, you don't need to do anything about it. A dickstar in high-security space is very effort-intensive to take down, especially for a smaller corp (as most high-security corps tend to be). |

Skippermonkey
Tactical Knightmare
89
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Posted - 2011.10.12 22:18:00 -
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Lyris Nairn wrote:dickstar I have a question: how many alt accounts do you use to like each post you make? |

Placid09
Tactical Knightmare
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Posted - 2011.10.12 22:31:00 -
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Lyris Nairn wrote:Unless your enemy can get 50 dudes in battleships together and sustain fire on the dickstar for about four or five hours, you don't need to do anything about it. A dickstar in high-security space is very effort-intensive to take down, especially for a smaller corp (as most high-security corps tend to be).
Or a much smaller group incaps all of the ECM and reinforces with ease... |

Shriven89
Tactical Knightmare
0
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Posted - 2011.10.12 22:33:00 -
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Rescue fleet?
COME AT ME BRO |

Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2254
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Posted - 2011.10.13 00:41:00 -
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Placid09 wrote:Lyris Nairn wrote:Unless your enemy can get 50 dudes in battleships together and sustain fire on the dickstar for about four or five hours, you don't need to do anything about it. A dickstar in high-security space is very effort-intensive to take down, especially for a smaller corp (as most high-security corps tend to be). Or a much smaller group incaps all of the ECM and reinforces with ease... Your definition of ease and mine greatly differ. Having to deal with a dickstar is a lot of effort. |

Bloody Wench
81
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Posted - 2011.10.13 08:49:00 -
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It went reinforced sometime today while I was out at my last Chem prac for the year (woot woot), no attempt has been made to save it.
My first mail was Sent: 2011.10.11 22:43
Last Sent: 2011.10.12 19:06
So yeah well done on the 20 hour pos bash. I bet you can't wait to see what fat lewtz you're going to get.
Have a feeling you're going to be dissapointed.
While no attempt has been made to discern the motives behind it, it makes no difference in the grander scheme of things. |

Istyn
Tactical Knightmare
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Posted - 2011.10.13 10:10:00 -
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Lyris Nairn wrote:Placid09 wrote:Lyris Nairn wrote:Unless your enemy can get 50 dudes in battleships together and sustain fire on the dickstar for about four or five hours, you don't need to do anything about it. A dickstar in high-security space is very effort-intensive to take down, especially for a smaller corp (as most high-security corps tend to be). Or a much smaller group incaps all of the ECM and reinforces with ease... Your definition of ease and mine greatly differ. Having to deal with a dickstar is a lot of effort.
Just to clarify, it's not exactly a dickstar, it only had 8 ECM modules with no other defences.
Skippermonkey wrote:Lyris Nairn wrote:dickstar I have a question: how many alt accounts do you use to like each post you make?
I am one of them. |

Archeris vane
Pegasus Empire
2
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Posted - 2011.10.13 12:16:00 -
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I have a feeling I am not going to be disappointed at all  |

Bloody Wench
81
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Posted - 2011.10.13 13:52:00 -
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Quote:Just to clarify, it's not exactly a dickstar, it only had 8 ECM modules with no other defences.
What's 4 times 4 |

Istyn
Tactical Knightmare
10
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Posted - 2011.10.13 14:11:00 -
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Bloody Wench wrote:Quote:Just to clarify, it's not exactly a dickstar, it only had 8 ECM modules with no other defences. What's 4 times 4 
Whoops, for some reason thought you only had 2 of each.
I did it right and let other people shoot the ECM. |
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Scrapyard Bob
EVE University Ivy League
7
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Posted - 2011.10.13 15:15:00 -
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Bloody Wench wrote:Quote:Just to clarify, it's not exactly a dickstar, it only had 8 ECM modules with no other defences. What's 4 times 4 
Unless it was a small tower, that's far from being a d1ckstar. A large tower d1ckstar is where you have at least 48 ECM anchored (usually between 60 and 80) and online. Most large towers, with nothing else online can put 100+ ECM online.
Even a medium tower can put 40-50 ECM online (each ECM is 50tf, CPU is the limiting factor for an ECM-based defense).
If you had only 16 ECM online, then I'm not surprised that a fleet of a dozen was able to reinforce the tower. |

Archeris vane
Pegasus Empire
3
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Posted - 2011.10.13 16:46:00 -
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now that would be a **** star, this was mildly amusing |

Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2353
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Posted - 2011.10.13 19:09:00 -
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Skippermonkey wrote:Lyris Nairn wrote:dickstar I have a question: how many alt accounts do you use to like each post you make? To my name I have nine alt accounts, which have been active or inactive at various times. Six of those accounts are dedicated almost exclusively to Planetary Interaction, which has lost my interest. I only have one active alt account right now, which has two characters: Character One is a Stealth Bomber alt in training; Character Two is an Orca pilot that I recently purchased for the purpose of staging ships in space for when I want to do some suicide ganking in Empire. |

Bloody Wench
81
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Posted - 2011.10.14 02:22:00 -
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I am not a Lyris Nairn alt. |

Bloody Wench
81
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Posted - 2011.10.14 14:41:00 -
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Quote:Report: Starbase in Scheenins is under attack From: DED Sent: 2011.10.11 22:43
Solar System: Scheenins Moon: Scheenins II - Moon 1
Attacked object: Phase Inversion Battery Current Shield Level: 97% Current Armor Integrity: 100% Current Hull Integrity: 100% Aggressing Pilot: Archeris vane Aggressing Pilot's Corporation: Pegasus Empire Aggressing Pilot's Alliance: -
Report: Starbase in Scheenins is under attack From: DED Sent: 2011.10.14 13:20
Solar System: Scheenins Moon: Scheenins II - Moon 1
Attacked object: Caldari Control Tower Current Shield Level: 00% Current Armor Integrity: 91% Current Hull Integrity: 100% Aggressing Pilot: Miss Nikita09 Aggressing Pilot's Corporation: Tactical Knightmare Aggressing Pilot's Alliance: -
3 days! well... 2 and a half days.
:sadpanda:
Why Scheenins? I like Scheenins. I did learn something during this. I didn't have anywhere near enough modules anchored. The next one will have an order of magnitude more.
You realise I consider this a surrender?
Quote: Tactical Knightmare Retracts War Against Nox Incurro From: CONCORD Sent: 2011.10.14 14:17
The war between Tactical Knightmare and Nox Incurro is coming to an end. Tactical Knightmare has retracted the war against Nox Incurro. The war will be declared as being over after approximately 24 hours.
Pegasus Empire Retracts War Against Nox Incurro From: CONCORD Sent: 2011.10.14 14:16
The war between Pegasus Empire and Nox Incurro is coming to an end. Pegasus Empire has retracted the war against Nox Incurro. The war will be declared as being over after approximately 24 hours.
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Archeris vane
Pegasus Empire
3
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Posted - 2011.10.14 14:52:00 -
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yes clearly we surrendered, also if you had anchored more modules, I'd have brought more people, that pos was gonna die one way or another  |

Tauren Tom
Order of the Silver Dragons Clone Vat
14
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Posted - 2011.10.14 16:26:00 -
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Lyris Nairn wrote:Skippermonkey wrote:Lyris Nairn wrote:dickstar I have a question: how many alt accounts do you use to like each post you make? To my name I have nine alt accounts, which have been active or inactive at various times. Six of those accounts are dedicated almost exclusively to Planetary Interaction, which has lost my interest. I only have one active alt account right now, which has two characters: Character One is a Stealth Bomber alt in training; Character Two is an Orca pilot that I recently purchased for the purpose of staging ships in space for when I want to do some suicide ganking in Empire.
Something tells me you missed the SMA alterations >.>
or are you planning to do this in low sec? |

Istyn
Tactical Knightmare
10
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Posted - 2011.10.14 17:18:00 -
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Bloody Wench wrote: You realise I consider this a surrender?
:) Good for you. |
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