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Herping yourDerp
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.13 05:41:00 -
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eve won't die until CCP pulls a NGE like star wars galaxies did...
if you dont know star wars galaxies was an amazing MMO that was deep, sony made an expansion that made it a wow clone
everyone quit
no one new joined
CCP almost did just this and there was a player riot in the 2 major trade hubs, CCP reversed many of the things they said that might happen, so for now EVE is worth it.
the reason u see lots of whining, is people like to express what is wrong, there is lots wrong with eve, but also lots of things are right.
EVE for example is the only mmo i have ever seen where smaller can be better, in wow a lvl 20 item will be worthless, in eve, that frigate still has a purpose and can be used correctly and get kills.
anyways... for now, eve is fine.. try it, try to get into a friendly corp that helps you, good luck. |
Aston Bradley
Through the Looking Glass
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Posted - 2011.10.14 07:06:00 -
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Herping yourDerp wrote:eve won't die until CCP pulls a NGE like star wars galaxies did...
if you dont know star wars galaxies was an amazing MMO that was deep, sony made an expansion that made it a wow clone
everyone quit
no one new joined
QFT
But i i will admit that i am actually looking forward to SWTOR. Even if in it's core it is a enhanced wow clone with lightsabers. |
David Grogan
The Motley Crew Reborn
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Posted - 2011.10.14 13:34:00 -
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CCP Fallout wrote:Beorn Darkstar wrote: I see it will require a lot time to actually get to the enjoyable parts. I'd like to address this part of your post; player's can attest to what they like/dislike about the game, and I would just be seen as selling it to you :D But for me to address it, I'm wondering what are the enjoyable parts to you? There's a tremendous amount that one can do with EVE from the start that might not be obvious to someone new to New Eden :)
Dont get complacent CCP............. 2 years of neglect of eve online because of WOD and Dust 514 has seen a sizeable drop in subs.
Winter Expansion is not all that much of an expansion but rather a large patch to fix some of the crappy mistakes ye made over the last few years.
While Dust 514 might end up being successful.... WOD i doubt will be that successful.......... here your competing with too many similar games such as wow, star wars, second life etc.
Vampire Themed Games is already so old and already been done to death. see a free vampire mmorpg called Reign of Blood |
Pixxie Twilight
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Posted - 2011.10.23 01:49:00 -
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Beorn Darkstar wrote:in playing eve this late in the games life? Forum is full of moaning and crying post, some post say eve is dying and other say eve is losing players. I just started eve yesterday and love it, but I see it will require a lot time to actually get to the enjoyable parts. Basically I don't want to board a sinking ship. Do you guys see eve lasting for a few more years? I'm looking for the long haul. Anyway, thanks for your time. Hope I didn't feed the trolls too much.
I came to Eve because I saw Incarna footage on youtube, plus I wanted to see if I was smart enough. Lol. I'd tried to get into Eve a couple of times before this Incarna phase, but it was too textbooky for me at that time. The New Player experience felt better this time around.
To start, I enjoyed Eve because it was so different from the other MMOs I've played - you don't have to fight and raid all the time, there's variety, trading, industry, real tension because the PvP can happen all over the place without prior consent. Those weren't around in my last MMO (DDO which I played since 2006). I think Eve is a very fresh take on the MMO concept, and the whole sandbox thing makes the players quite interesting. Re the more realistic PvP, since when does a bad guy say excuse me can I mug you now? :P
Getting into a new player corp that trains you might be okay to get your feet wet, but to escalate the fun factor, after a while join a corp in which the veterans let you participate in what they're doing. The recruitment thread is a good place to window shop corps. An active corp with a good number of vets is when the real fun comes alive. Just my opinion. And have patience, training can take a while, I'm getting a jump clone soon, and then I'll have a safe character to put my training implants on. ;)
Good luck!
Pixxie
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Avon
Versatech Co.
Raiden.
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Posted - 2011.10.24 22:59:00 -
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Eve has been dying since 2003.
Each year more and more people claim this.
Long may those numbers increase.
People ***** and moan because they are so attached to the game, it is a good sign.
When the moaning stops, that's when Eve is in trouble. |
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Industrial Complex
Cosmic Consortium
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Posted - 2011.10.24 23:06:00 -
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Jennifer Starling wrote:Louis deGuerre wrote:You can train for a year to max everything for a specific ship+fit and be 20% better than a new guy who trained for a month./ Not really. Sometimes I see players in for 3-4 months not even doing half the damage of my battlecruiser in a battleship. Implants, ship bonus, RoF bonus, DPS bonus, T2 .. it all adds up. Add to that more speed, shield, armor, hull, cap recharge ..
The difference between one character with all skills +4 vs the other with all skills +5 will be 5% to 10%. That the other guy wasn't using implants (or was using missile implants while flying a laser boat), or didn't know to use tracking enhancers instead of heat sinks is a different argument to SP equality.
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J'Poll
IMPERIAL LEGI0N
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Posted - 2011.10.25 09:43:00 -
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Avon wrote:Eve has been dying since 2003.
Each year more and more people claim this.
Long may those numbers increase.
People ***** and moan because they are so attached to the game, it is a good sign.
When the moaning stops, that's when Eve is in trouble.
Again just a +1. This is totally true, people who like the game will moan when things aren't done well.
Also there are loads of scammers that try to trick you with the "I'm quiting EVE, buy my stuff for 1 trit"-scam. So be aware of those.
J'Poll
Director / Recruiter - Borealis Mining Concern
Recruiter - Imperial Legi0n
As a finishing touch, God created the Dutch |
Signal11th
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Posted - 2011.10.26 10:50:00 -
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Beorn Darkstar wrote:in playing eve this late in the games life? Forum is full of moaning and crying post, some post say eve is dying and other say eve is losing players. I just started eve yesterday and love it, but I see it will require a lot time to actually get to the enjoyable parts. Basically I don't want to board a sinking ship. Do you guys see eve lasting for a few more years? I'm looking for the long haul. Anyway, thanks for your time. Hope I didn't feed the trolls too much.
lol people have always moaned on the forums since the forums conception, take no heed of us "forum warriors" we are usually uptight bittervets that like complaining.
If you ingnore the usual crap on the forums they can actually be a good place for information and help.
I;ve been playing for a few years now and like any game there are issues but this spaceship is definately not sinking, it's a great game!
God Said "Come Forth and receive eternal life!"-a I came second and won a toaster. |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
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Posted - 2011.10.27 22:45:00 -
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Beorn Darkstar wrote:in playing eve this late in the games life? Forum is full of moaning and crying post, some post say eve is dying and other say eve is losing players. I just started eve yesterday and love it, but I see it will require a lot time to actually get to the enjoyable parts. Basically I don't want to board a sinking ship. Do you guys see eve lasting for a few more years? I'm looking for the long haul. Anyway, thanks for your time. Hope I didn't feed the trolls too much.
EVE has been dying since 2004.
No really, you can search the old forums and find "EVE is dying" posts dating from then.
The last 18 months has seen deep concern about the direction EVE was headed in, but these last few weeks have seen a significant change in direction. I personally am feeling a lot more confident.
Additionally, most of the problems that are complained about are of little direct concern to a brand new player. What does the supercap nerf matter to you? It doesn't.
If you love EVE, then the best thing to do is to sub up; that's what will help ensure that it's still going in another 8 years.
Even in the worst case, EVE will be here for quite a while - SWG lasted almost 8 years after the infamous NGE, and nothing nearly as bad as that has happened to EVE yet.
Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-ahttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |
Velicitia
Open Designs
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Posted - 2011.10.27 23:58:00 -
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Jennifer Starling wrote:Louis deGuerre wrote:You can train for a year to max everything for a specific ship+fit and be 20% better than a new guy who trained for a month./ Not really. Sometimes I see players in for 3-4 months not even doing half the damage of my battlecruiser in a battleship. Implants, ship bonus, RoF bonus, DPS bonus, T2 .. it all adds up. Add to that more speed, shield, armor, hull, cap recharge ..
no, really. level 4-5 generally takes 14-30 days. You get a 5-10% boost from level 4-5...
Whilst the "20% difference" is potentially lower than the actual number, but I wouldn't imagine that it's much higher than 33% or so. |
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
900
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Posted - 2011.10.28 06:34:00 -
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DeBingJos wrote:The strange thing about EVE is this:
When you have little SP you want to fly the bigger/T2 ships.
When you have a lot of SP you want to fly T1 ships.
Enjoy whatever you can fly at the moment.
This is weirdly true...
Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-ahttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |
Lyric Lahnder
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2011.10.31 13:47:00 -
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Weather it was the nano nerf or many other changes, people like their EVE one way and when it gets altered there are tears so so many tears.
Play eve the way you like, and if changes alter your game play adapt to change how you play or leave. No one twists your arm to play this game.
You also have to remember theres a lot of people who keep one foot in the forums even after they leave because in there minds despite the changes that made them leave they still want to come back to the fun.
CCP is a remarkably agile company and the recent changes of late should be evident of that. All though our continued be moaning doest translate into change straight up, at least there some sign of them listening at all. Which some companies dont do.
There has always been crying on the forums and there all ways will be. Take it with a grain of salt. People only complain about something they care about. So if all the moaning translate into concern for something, all that moaning on the forums actually translates into something pretty positive in my eyes. |
Jennifer Starling
Imperial Navy Forum Patrol
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Posted - 2011.10.31 14:39:00 -
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Well obviously most people that post are people that still play .. or at least have active accounts (which isn't the same, especially not in EVE). There's a lot of people that quit playing, but they're not around anymore to tell you why! 
Whatever you do, beware of the point of no return, when you start to get really nice skills and keep paying subs to get even better skills - but start to play less. The passive skilltraining is also a trap! |
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