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Poetic Stanziel
Fweddit I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
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Posted - 2013.01.17 08:41:00 -
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I've never owned a POS. I've never used a POS. But I wouldn't complain if they were given some development love. Amarr Militia - Fweddit - http://fweddit.com Poetic Discourse - http://poeticstanziel.blogspot.com |
tgl3
Wormhole Engineers Greater Realms
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Posted - 2013.01.17 08:42:00 -
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Fix POS's... "no one uses them " is a crap excuse - no one uses them they'de complicated, broken and difficult to use , and can be applied to almost anything that has been redone in late expansions. Old t1 frigs? No one used them beyond a select few. Bounty system? No one used it. Kill rights? Nope. FW was forgotten. But then you changed them and now people use them!
I was at the London meet and talked to the to Devs there. The initial ideas for the POS rework sounded fantastic, and was easily my most anticipated feature of 2013 - far above ship balancing and everything else. To hear CCP have gone "lol nope" is... extremely saddening. Member of the EVE Blog Pack - Through Newb Eyes Twitter - TG_3 |
Indus Fervens
Saiph Industries Talocan United
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Posted - 2013.01.17 08:42:00 -
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Arronicus wrote:Ellente Fervens wrote:I read the blog post. I was tempted to come in here dropping f bombs left, right and center.
a few deep breaths later and here I am.
I just resubed. Only because I thought the POS system was about to get better. I am about to go and remove the auto sub from all of my accounts. They will expire unless the CSM post a clear and emphatic "POS life WILL be improved in May." once the 'planing phase' is done. Y'all got Soon(tm) bombed! Ohooo!
I'd retort that we were Soon(tm)ed about 6 months ago. |
Harnath Boloskarl
Ekchuah's Shrine Comporium Kill It With Fire
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Posted - 2013.01.17 08:43:00 -
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Having read or at least skimmed through every single page of this thread so far, I have not seen a single person stating they were against a POS revamp. If there is anyone sincerely against it, please post in this thread, and prove that I'm crazy.
What I would like to see from CCP is some hard numbers on the useage of POSes. Such figures would be:
* the number of currently active POSes in each class of sapce (high, low, null and WH) * numbers of POSes taken down and put up each day * numbers of blueprints researched or invented * trade volume and value of POS modules and fuel. * the number of people currently living primarily out of POSes (hint: every single wormholer) * average setup and takedown time of a large residential or industrial POS with full defenses, fuel and ammunition loaded.
Please CCP, prove to us that every single person disagreeing with you in this thread is insignificant, and not worth your time. |
oHAWKo
Rage of Inferno Malefic Motives
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Posted - 2013.01.17 08:46:00 -
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Pls do something with the current pos structure.
I am a part of the eve population that it affects. |
Sao DaSilva
Adhocracy Incorporated Adhocracy
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Posted - 2013.01.17 08:47:00 -
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+1 |
Indus Fervens
Saiph Industries Talocan United
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Posted - 2013.01.17 08:51:00 -
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Mocam wrote:Heimdallofasgard wrote:.... I'll bring this to you in a slightly different way, you don't seem to be seeing what I do here. Unless you understand some aspects of software design complexities, you may not see potential problems -- we don't have the code to look at nor understand what "hacks" have been done to enable and disable certain types of functionality (such as POS shields, passwords on them, "POS bowling" 'fixes', etc.) lots of other quite legitimate stuff.
All this is totally valid, and I say roll the dice, lets the ball fall where it may. FFS, I am happy to evac the hole leaving scanners only in there if it means we can then take brand new sparkly poses back in That aren't a complete ball ache to use.
For instance, I have three different reaction lines set up in my pos. Why? because I live in a WH and the corp cannot give out starbase config to everyone. It is directors only. So I can't change which reactions I have in the reactors. I can't change what materials go into the silos. So I offline the entire production line that is no longer profitable and bring on one that is, until that product dives.
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Tovi Thibault
Eastern Sun
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Posted - 2013.01.17 08:51:00 -
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I just set up my first POS and am still struggeling with the managing options. I think the setup as well as the management part of a POS need some major improvements. |
GizzyBoy
Old Spice Syndicate Sailors of the Sacred Spice
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Posted - 2013.01.17 08:54:00 -
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/me Facepalm for the last 3 years ive been interacting nearly daily with poses.
Currently pos interaction accounts for nearly 15% of my online time,
To say that they are only interested in what new players are able to do is a self made trap.
all players who leave npc corps are going to come into contact with poses, in fact one could argue with the ability to have your own home floating in space, it could be an enticement for more people to leave npc corps and strike out on there journeys to other realms of space much sooner. |
Van Kuzco
Stryker Industries Ocularis Inferno
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Posted - 2013.01.17 08:55:00 -
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If they would just focus on little things I'd be ecstatic.
-Being able to use containers inside a POS to organize things -Allowing alliance members to use POS structures such as Research/Reaction Labs |
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Walextheone
The Red Circle Inc.
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Posted - 2013.01.17 08:56:00 -
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I think the POS revamp is something that will affect most players in some regard. From highsec, lowsec, null to w-space. In my corp there are 200+ that would love see a change. |
Guntaro
Anarchist Dawn U N K N O W N
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Posted - 2013.01.17 08:57:00 -
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do it |
Alec Freeman
The Dark Space Initiative
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Posted - 2013.01.17 08:58:00 -
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Soundwave is bloody clueless. This will affect more than just you Sovereign holding power blocks.
+support |
Jivlain Pollard
The Red Circle Inc.
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Posted - 2013.01.17 09:00:00 -
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Definitely support. The defects of the current POS system have wide reaching effects - all of which prevent people from doing more to interact with their POS in whatever space they're in. People don't interact with their POSes more because the system is too broken to let them. POSes absolutely need a lot of development love. |
X4me1eoH
Anarchist Dawn U N K N O W N
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Posted - 2013.01.17 09:04:00 -
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signed, we need new pos. |
Steven Grlscz
Inter Arma Surely You're Joking
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Posted - 2013.01.17 09:05:00 -
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Posted for a modular POS re-do. |
TheMasterSenor
Some Devils
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Posted - 2013.01.17 09:05:00 -
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+1 for POS changes.. |
MadbaM
Hard Knocks Inc.
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Posted - 2013.01.17 09:06:00 -
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Small and insignificant my voting subscription paying ass it is! |
Samillian
Angry Mustellid Iron Oxide.
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Posted - 2013.01.17 09:07:00 -
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Time for POSes to be what they should be not the mess they are. NBSI shall be the whole of the Law |
Pak Narhoo
Splinter Foundation
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Posted - 2013.01.17 09:10:00 -
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Under direction of CCP Soundwave, you took a small step for the countless POS owners and maintenance people, which was a big step for the whole of EVE by streamlining what was once called the POS fuel nightmare.
I don't see why you cannot add another step, and then another step to update the nearly decade old POS system (a placeholder for crying out loud) gradually, unless of course you just don't want to. Hi, I'm CCP Arrow, I screwed up the.. ummm... |
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Steelworks II
Anarchist Dawn U N K N O W N
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Posted - 2013.01.17 09:10:00 -
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have long been waiting for a change to the security of personal items on POSes hope the wait will not be too long |
Casirio
DEEP-SPACE CO-OP LTD Exhale.
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Posted - 2013.01.17 09:11:00 -
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if your too lazy to redo the damn thing you guys @ CCP better at least make some improvements so we dont have to have 50 god damn pos' in our system just to keep our assets secure. |
Epsilon Eridanni
Nexus Ore Technologies and Excavations Surely You're Joking
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Posted - 2013.01.17 09:11:00 -
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I vote for a POS change! |
Sedilis
Lead Farmers Kill It With Fire
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Posted - 2013.01.17 09:12:00 -
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Outrageous u-turn CCP!
Because of the terrible security on POS we w-space corp are forced to exclude large parts of the player base from our recruitment. When we explained this to Greyscale and Masterplan last March they could see this hits your bottom line.
We don't want the whole company for a whole expansion.
We don't even need a whole new pos system.
WE NEED SECURE SHIP STORAGE.
Please give us access control lists on Ship Maintenance Arrays! |
Chirality Tisteloin
Zervas Aeronautics WHY so Seri0Us
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Posted - 2013.01.17 09:14:00 -
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The vision we were given: that you can start with your private space cubicle and expand into a full village of modules would have allowed POSes to become even much more integral to EVE gameplay than they are now.
If it appears to CCP that "only a small portion" of players uses POSes now, the goal could be to change exactly this. POS space villages could be the apocrypha-like "new environments" that people conjure in their minds. They could be the in-game asset basis for many of the enabler/instigator tools that we would like to have.
I always understood the idea such that modular POSes will not be created only to fix what bothers current starbase owners, but also to provide new gameplay for the 99%. With ramifications to industry, null-sec "farms and fields", intel, but also new options for young players.
I totally support any effort to convince CCP that this an important thing to do.
Fly smart, Chira. |
Vedrea
The Shahi Balti
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Posted - 2013.01.17 09:18:00 -
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Chirality Tisteloin wrote:The vision we were given: that you can start with your private space cubicle and expand into a full village of modules would have allowed POSes to become even much more integral to EVE gameplay than they are now.
If it appears to CCP that "only a small portion" of players uses POSes now, the goal could be to change exactly this. POS space villages could be the apocrypha-like "new environments" that people conjure in their minds. They could be the in-game asset basis for many of the enabler/instigator tools that we would like to have.
I always understood the idea such that modular POSes will not be created only to fix what bothers current starbase owners, but also to provide new gameplay for the 99%. With ramifications to industry, null-sec "farms and fields", intel, but also new options for young players.
I totally support any effort to convince CCP that this an important thing to do.
Fly smart, Chira.
Totally this |
Kris Dethahal
10th level Banzee U N K N O W N
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Posted - 2013.01.17 09:19:00 -
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+ POS system need same changes... need more groups in pos. |
Vile Cat Askiras
Widowmaker Industries
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Posted - 2013.01.17 09:20:00 -
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Its idiotic of them to leave POSes as they are. More people would use POSes if they weren't so terribly broken and obscure. |
Bei ArtJay
Questionable Ethics. Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork
33
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Posted - 2013.01.17 09:20:00 -
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Get me in on that meeting Two-Step I need to unleash some Bei-Rage on CCP's ass.
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2013.01.17 09:21:00 -
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POS may only be directly used by a small percentage, but that's a direct consequence of how incredibly unfriendly they are to deploy and manage.
I'll go ahead an predict that if POS were easy to manage and deploy, and the POS roles system was made actually usable, then we'd see an explosion in POS use. Vote for Malcanis for CSM8 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=192717&find=unread |
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