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Debes Sparre
Hard Knocks Inc.
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Posted - 2013.01.17 07:40:00 -
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I support this product and/or service. |
Saul Hyperion
Palmetto Galactic
9
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Posted - 2013.01.17 07:44:00 -
[152] - Quote
signed |
Petrus Justinianus
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
0
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Posted - 2013.01.17 07:44:00 -
[153] - Quote
ccp's line of thinking: people aren't using pos's enough because they are so terrible, therefore there aren't enough people using them for them to be important |
vyshnegradsky
Organized-Chaos Apocalypse Now.
51
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Posted - 2013.01.17 07:46:00 -
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Post This one's a bit over the edge guys.
Locked for breaking... well, pretty much all the rules.
- CCP Falcon |
John DaiSho
Applied Creations The Fendahlian Collective
68
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Posted - 2013.01.17 07:48:00 -
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If I want? I do want! |
Lithorn
The Dark Tribe Against ALL Authorities
14
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Posted - 2013.01.17 07:48:00 -
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I agree with 2 step, I own several pos's and in the past have been a maintainer of a network of pos's for an alliance. Its a lot of work, things got better with the minor revamp of fuel and module anchoring times but more is needed. |
Dcna
Nehalem Baconators
5
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Posted - 2013.01.17 07:50:00 -
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I was waiting for the POS revamp so that me and my friends could move back into a WH. Looks like that won't be happening.
I use a POS all the time to make t2 modules that other people use to make explosions. Except since "only a small" amount of people are actually managing them means it has no value? I think this thinking is flawed horribly. Just look at how happy soooo many eve players were when it was announced that POSes would be revamped and that everyone will have one...now it will be even less people if anything, not more. |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
7106
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Posted - 2013.01.17 07:50:00 -
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I invite CCP Unifex to keep his character in W-space for a couple of weeks. Vote for Malcanis for CSM8 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=192717&find=unread |
Rina Kondur
Fweddit I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
9
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Posted - 2013.01.17 08:01:00 -
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Adding my voice to the request for POS revamps. |
Yuluthu
The Drunken Empire Fatal Ascension
1
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Posted - 2013.01.17 08:06:00 -
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poses dont affect enough carebears to warrant change pro logic |
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GeneralJosh
Wormhole Engineers Greater Realms
16
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Posted - 2013.01.17 08:10:00 -
[161] - Quote
Fix them POS's. My own tab at a POS would be nice.... |
Rogue Mennace
Eve Engineering Logistics Eve Engineering
10
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Posted - 2013.01.17 08:11:00 -
[162] - Quote
Please fix POSes. They affect a very large portion of EVE players. |
Atomic Option
Taggart Transdimensional Virtue of Selfishness
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Posted - 2013.01.17 08:11:00 -
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Confirming I am another player who would be very interested in having/using POSes if they were more user friendly or usable/controllable by individuals instead of only corps.
I'd be doing it on this character in wormhole and my alt would love to set one up in kspace even with the current issues, but is unable to because of corp roles I can't get because of the structure and needs of that character's corp. Please at a minimum provide a method for having personal POS! I liked all the teasers about a full modular-POS overhaul, but honestly being able to setup a personal base with making an entirely separate corp is the bare minimum.
This feature could be the equivalent to having a house in most other MMOs as it is a user placed, designed and maintained location for storing the things you own and launching your operations. These are enormously popular in other games and if they were accessible I'm sure they would be here as well. |
Aidamina Omen
Aperture Harmonics K162
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Posted - 2013.01.17 08:12:00 -
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Thank you CCP for getting my hopes up and once again crushing them. As Two Step said in his post, we've been ever so patient with you. But what do we get for it in return?
Another thing that infuriates me is the fact that apparently the new nebulas are too expensive to buy for WH space, does this mean that I can now submit a petition for a discount on my eve accounts? Apparently we aren't worth it. We wormholers are getting sick of being treated as second class citizens.
For a long time I used to say, be glad CCP doesn't do any work on WH space, because then they wont break anything either. But it's getting to the point it's ridiculous. Even a small changes to say C4 wormholes would be a small effort with CCP changing a few database records, but they don't seem to be willing to do that.
I had hoped with Two Step in the CSM something would change that, but clearly it hasn't. |
Arronicus
Vintas Industries Mistakes Were Made.
75
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Posted - 2013.01.17 08:13:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:I invite CCP Unifex to keep his character in W-space for a couple of weeks.
This. But not just keep it there, try to live there, with a corp. 'Guys, I need roles so I can store my ship and theres noone online half the time who can boot it out of the SMA for me, please guys I'm not gonna steal' 'sorry bra. safety first' |
Hannott Thanos
Notorious Legion
303
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Posted - 2013.01.17 08:16:00 -
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Always wanted to start messing around with pos's, but everyone ever told me not to because it's too much of a hassle for a small corp, let alone one guy with an alt. redo pos's please. |
Axloth Okiah
Dark-Rising
17
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Posted - 2013.01.17 08:20:00 -
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we need better POSes |
Vedrea
The Shahi Balti
11
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Posted - 2013.01.17 08:20:00 -
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As someone involved with both combat and industry in a new Corp, I have exposure to the POS system and will be dealing with it on a daily basis soon. I have also used them as a general resource/hangar etc for a couple of years in wormholes, in null, low and hi sec space.
I fully support the idea of CCP either reinstigating the development of the modular POS system, or at the very least improving the current one.
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Zara Arran
Aperture Harmonics K162
14
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Posted - 2013.01.17 08:24:00 -
[169] - Quote
Please, fix POSes... Aperture Harmonics - Recruitment Officer & Corp Diplomat Recruitment status - Open -á http://dontshootx.com/index.php?board=42.0 |
Ellente Fervens
Saiph Industries Talocan United
14
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Posted - 2013.01.17 08:26:00 -
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I read the blog post. I was tempted to come in here dropping f bombs left, right and center.
a few deep breaths later and here I am.
I just resubed. Only because I thought the POS system was about to get better. I am about to go and remove the auto sub from all of my accounts. They will expire unless the CSM post a clear and emphatic "POS life WILL be improved in May." once the 'planing phase' is done. |
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Phaderift
Sky Fighters Talocan United
8
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Posted - 2013.01.17 08:27:00 -
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These really need to be fixed especially if you want to encourage small groups. In null small groups can't afford stations to live out of, and all of WH space have massive pains with growth as the current system is a massive security problem for members assets .. |
Arronicus
Vintas Industries Mistakes Were Made.
75
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Posted - 2013.01.17 08:28:00 -
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Ellente Fervens wrote:I read the blog post. I was tempted to come in here dropping f bombs left, right and center.
a few deep breaths later and here I am.
I just resubed. Only because I thought the POS system was about to get better. I am about to go and remove the auto sub from all of my accounts. They will expire unless the CSM post a clear and emphatic "POS life WILL be improved in May." once the 'planing phase' is done.
Y'all got Soon(tm) bombed! Ohooo! |
Indus Fervens
Saiph Industries Talocan United
0
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Posted - 2013.01.17 08:29:00 -
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Ellente Fervens wrote:I read the blog post. I was tempted to come in here dropping f bombs left, right and center.
a few deep breaths later and here I am.
I just resubed. Only because I thought the POS system was about to get better. I am about to go and remove the auto sub from all of my accounts. They will expire unless the CSM post a clear and emphatic "POS life WILL be improved in May." once the 'planing phase' is done. And cause I am a little pissed [annoyed, not drunk] (and it is an obvious alt, no real secret there) here is another account that will be unsubbing. Proving empty words aren't completely empty. |
Adal Kon
Serenity Tardis
2
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Posted - 2013.01.17 08:29:00 -
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Yes, fix POS's for gods sake. |
Kel hound
Lycosa Syndicate Surely You're Joking
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Posted - 2013.01.17 08:30:00 -
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Quote:Unifex stated that what CCP did was spend effort and prototype what would make a good POS system. It would, however, only affect the group of people who manage POSes. Focusing that amount of time and effort on some small singular aspect of the game and delivering only that GÇ£is what will kill the businessGÇ¥. ... On top of that, Soundwave added, the POS system by itself would only affect a small portion of the community.
The ignorance in this quote boggles my mind. The PoS system is literally one of the only EVE mechanics that effects everyone who plays EVE.
If you reserch, or produce T2 in highsec, you use a PoS. If you live in lowsec, you probably use a PoS. If you live in nulsec, own a super, moon-mine or hold sov, you use a PoS. If you live in wormholes, you use a PoS.
There is no area or fassett in EVE that is untouched by the PoS system and yet, the PoS system is universally agreed by everyone who manages, uses, and/or lives to be horrible and in need of replacement. Knowing all this I do not understand how CCP can, with a straight face, tell us that modular PoS are not important enough to dedicate the full power of the company. |
Mocam
EVE University Ivy League
217
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Posted - 2013.01.17 08:31:00 -
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Heimdallofasgard wrote:....
I'll bring this to you in a slightly different way, you don't seem to be seeing what I do here. Unless you understand some aspects of software design complexities, you may not see potential problems -- we don't have the code to look at nor understand what "hacks" have been done to enable and disable certain types of functionality (such as POS shields, passwords on them, "POS bowling" 'fixes', etc.)
The changes desired... They may cause a great deal of grief. Think about it a bit and you may understand what I'm pointing at.
2 different "rule engines" for security - which works, which doesn't? "both work!" great, so which one is going to damage the other or overload it/change it? A more primitive tool is liable to cause all sorts of problems and trying to parallel implement a solution with old "hacks" doesn't turn out to well in many software situations.
"Phasing out" may not work. Literally, we don't know. There are all sorts of special rules about POS layouts that we know of but how they are coded and enforced are all unknowns and may not support "phasing out" vs just flat out junk it and replace - but replacing it along the lines of replacing a horse with a motorcycle... A tad different.
We just don't know but what we do know is that CCP has stated repeatedly they'd like to fix it and have "tweaked" it a few times in the past yet seem to hesitate when it comes to more radical fixes. Why?
"Lazy" - perhaps but it's quite possible that they also found they'll end up trashing the hell out of the existing POS's by "fixing it" for real.
Look at it this way -- if you held a POS in a premium location that many would like to take and it suddenly became vulnerable or went off-line due to changes -- so much so that someone else got in there and setup a POS on that spot while yours is "defunct" -- how thrilled would you be about those changes which just cost you a spot that you've been using potentially for years?
Is it worth the effort and risks? Most here say yes but most also don't seem to see the potential problems that "fixing it" may cause. Just like when the UI changes, there are "breaking in" periods where a hell of a lot of us hit issues with "glitches" (such as the old "no standings" vs "neutral standings" oddity issue that was hit a year or so ago).
When such glitches effect whether you keep or lose a spot that you have kept - that can cause a lot of complaints and problems if someone else takes it due to a bug or, even worse, a mechanics change that "phased out" a way you defended yourself.
Again, I do think it's worth the risks and effort but I also believe people need to think about this a bit and understand that there are potential risks to losing your POS (or losing access to it) depending on how different/radical the changes end up being.
I do think it's worth it but we would need CCP to explain some of the things and if it is radical - we can expect some/many to throw fits about losing their stuff. It is quite probably not going to be a clean fix situation with the thousands of POS's out there. |
Lev Arturis
Dark-Rising
13
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Posted - 2013.01.17 08:32:00 -
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I'm using pos's both in my main pvp corp and in my alt industry corp.
A rework would be very welcome. |
Rubke
The 8th Order
0
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Posted - 2013.01.17 08:35:00 -
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I normally don't post on forums, but when i do I want a POS revamp! |
MainDrain
7th Deepari Defence Armada
103
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Posted - 2013.01.17 08:36:00 -
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All I want is a more flexible system. If I realise a current small tower can't do what I need I have to pull everything down and start again, in low sec this Is annoying, in high sec it can be impossible due to standing changes. To me i would like to see the change moved more towards the way in which we construct our PI. With an upgradeable tower as the main structure with links connecting everything else. A quick fix for this could be to implement this plan in the first expansion, utilising all the existing assets, and over time improving and changing all the modules in subsequent expansions befor finally working on allowing towers to be anchored in other areas of a system.
An overhaul of the corp system including roles would also help massively in this aspect.
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Acadia Reina
B0rthole Test Alliance Please Ignore
4
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Posted - 2013.01.17 08:40:00 -
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Oh no, we'll have to put logistics back on suicide watch! No CCP!
Please fix the POS! |
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