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Cecil Tanner
Lightning Squad
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Posted - 2013.01.10 14:05:00 -
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So if dust 514 is F2P like i've heard why would CCP put in this much effort and R&D and money for no profit?
Not saying that they are greedy or anything but i've never heard of any company that wants to loose money. |
Amun Doshu
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.01.10 14:07:00 -
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Cecil Tanner wrote:So if dust 514 is F2P like i've heard why would CCP put in this much effort and R&D and money for no profit?
it will might bring the shooter guys to have interest in space and many will sub to eve to support their teams from the sky... simple? |
James Amril-Kesh
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2013.01.10 14:09:00 -
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Because DUST has microtransactions. Phrases like "you can't nerf / buff X EVE is a Sandbox" have the same amount of meaning as "If this is a sack of potatoes then you can not carrot." - Alara IonStorm |
Cecil Tanner
Lightning Squad
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Posted - 2013.01.10 14:09:00 -
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Amun Doshu wrote:Cecil Tanner wrote:So if dust 514 is F2P like i've heard why would CCP put in this much effort and R&D and money for no profit? it will might bring the shooter guys to have interest in space and many will sub to eve to support their teams from the sky... simple?
Pretty risky given how much it must of cost to make dust 514 for that chance few people. |
Syn Fatelyng
Redanni
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Posted - 2013.01.10 14:10:00 -
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Quote:Citation: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dust_514Unlike Eve Online, Dust 514 will not require a monthly subscription. It will instead use a micro-transaction model, making the game free to play. |
Randolph Rothstein
whatever corp.
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Posted - 2013.01.10 14:11:00 -
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its a conspiracy to get dust players pay for microtransactions to make ccp more money to make better eve ...huehue |
King Rothgar
CONTRATTO IMPERIAL LEGI0N
343
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Posted - 2013.01.10 14:11:00 -
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Same business model as world of tanks and planet side 2. WoT seems to be doing fairly well, not sure on PS2. Money is made off of premium accounts (XP/resource boosts), cosmetic items and simply purchasing items instead of having to grind for 500 hours to get them. The Troll is trolling. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2013.01.10 14:16:00 -
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F2P Gëá Non-profit. It's only the GÇ£to playGÇ¥ bit that is free, after allGǪ GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan. |
Randolph Rothstein
whatever corp.
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Posted - 2013.01.10 14:22:00 -
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people overpay when they see shiny stuff,sub might cost 15 bucks a month but give me some cute pet and stupid xmas costume and ill just say shut up and take my money
its actually a miracle that eve isnt f2p micro yet |
Rain6639
Team Evil
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Posted - 2013.01.10 14:25:00 -
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the current package is 20 USD for a permanent gun and suit. if you need me, I'll be on youtube watching russian car accident videos |
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silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
330
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Posted - 2013.01.10 14:26:00 -
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Dust == Pay to Win Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing. |
Ioci
Bad Girl Posse
349
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Posted - 2013.01.10 14:28:00 -
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Facebook shares are worth billions and Facebook has never made a dime.
Get it? R.I.P. Vile Rat |
Rain6639
Team Evil
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Posted - 2013.01.10 14:32:00 -
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In terms of gameplay magnitude, I'm filing Dust next to FW.
I don't FW. if you need me, I'll be on youtube watching russian car accident videos |
Stitcher
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
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Posted - 2013.01.10 14:37:00 -
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Free-to-play is actually the most profitable payment model the games industry has ever produced. I'd be very surprised if DUST didn't turn out to be extremely profitable. An in-character blog and a video: http://verinsjournal.blogspot.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu1mbsgo738
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2013.01.10 14:38:00 -
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Cecil Tanner wrote:So if dust 514 is F2P like i've heard why would CCP put in this much effort and R&D and money for no profit?
Not saying that they are greedy or anything but i've never heard of any company that wants to loose money.
Dust has a cash shop where you can buy vanity stuff, skillpoint boosters, and so on. That's the revenue source.
Also it's a good advertising hook for EVE itself - anecdotally, quite a few Dust players have tried EVE. MatrixSkye Mk2: "Remember: You consent to unconsensual PVP the moment you press the "Undock" button." |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
6905
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Posted - 2013.01.10 14:39:00 -
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silens vesica wrote:Dust == Pay to Win
What advantage can you get in Dust by paying for it that you can't get for free? MatrixSkye Mk2: "Remember: You consent to unconsensual PVP the moment you press the "Undock" button." |
Ioci
Bad Girl Posse
349
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Posted - 2013.01.10 14:40:00 -
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Ioci wrote:Facebook shares are worth billions and Facebook has never made a dime.
Get it?
You are all wrong. They are doing it so they can inflate their subscription numbers, crank up their share value and borrow more money. R.I.P. Vile Rat |
Rain6639
Team Evil
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Posted - 2013.01.10 14:41:00 -
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equipment
would be like constantly undocking in noob ships in EVE, just so you don't have to pony up IRL money if you need me, I'll be on youtube watching russian car accident videos |
Lexmana
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Posted - 2013.01.10 14:45:00 -
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[quote=Stitcher]Free-to-play is actually the most profitable payment model the games industry has ever produced. I/quote] Are you sure about that or is it just a 'feeling' that you have: http://www.businessinsider.com/here-are-the-top-10-highest-grossing-video-games-of-all-time-2012-6?op=1 |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
12584
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Posted - 2013.01.10 14:46:00 -
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Rain6639 wrote:equipment
would be like constantly undocking in noob ships in EVE, just so you don't have to pony up IRL money Not quite. You can still earn your ISK for the equipment by just shooting stuff, and as the Dust-EVE integration moves on, it should be possible to earn it by getting paid by pod pilots.
Ponying up cash is mainly there to avoid the grind: either the XP grind by buying training boosters or the ISK grind by purchasing your equipment with AUR instead.
That's the genious of the F2P model: the grinders provide a dedicated base population that gives life to the servers; the drop-ins want in on the action and plunk down the cash to get the same stuff the grinders have without having to do the actual grinding. You don't need P2W to earn money from F2P because convenience is a much more compelling product. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan. |
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Rain6639
Team Evil
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Posted - 2013.01.10 14:47:00 -
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permanent equipment if you need me, I'll be on youtube watching russian car accident videos |
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
1047
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Posted - 2013.01.10 14:57:00 -
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Rain6639 wrote:permanent equipment
Not as useful as you might think.
It's only barely above the free stuff.
The good stuff you have to keep buying with ISK or Aurum. FuzzWork Enterprises http://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/ Blueprint calculator, invention chance calculator, isk/m3 Ore chart-á and other 'useful' utilities.As well as mysql and CSV/XLS conversions of the Static Data Extract. |
JamesCLK
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Posted - 2013.01.10 15:03:00 -
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The permanent Dragonfly dropsuit and Toxin SMG are essentially painted versions of militia gear. If you had done your research, you'd know this. |
Rain6639
Team Evil
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Posted - 2013.01.10 15:03:00 -
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Steve Ronuken wrote:Rain6639 wrote:permanent equipment Not as useful as you might think. It's only barely above the free stuff. The good stuff you have to keep buying with ISK or Aurum.
JamesCLK wrote:The permanent Dragonfly dropsuit and Toxin SMG are essentially painted versions of militia gear. If you had done your research, you'd know this.
I never said it would be uber if you need me, I'll be on youtube watching russian car accident videos |
Thomas Hurt
Poteque Industries
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Posted - 2013.01.10 15:04:00 -
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Ioci wrote:Facebook shares are worth billions and Facebook has never made a dime.
Get it?
Facebook makes a ton of money on ad revenue, and frequently oscillates between net profit and net loss. thats not a very good comparison |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
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Posted - 2013.01.10 15:08:00 -
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Rain6639 wrote:Steve Ronuken wrote:Rain6639 wrote:permanent equipment Not as useful as you might think. It's only barely above the free stuff. The good stuff you have to keep buying with ISK or Aurum. JamesCLK wrote:The permanent Dragonfly dropsuit and Toxin SMG are essentially painted versions of militia gear. If you had done your research, you'd know this. I never said it would be uber So it gains you no advantage, and in fact is mostly cosmetic and convenient.
I'm pretty much okay with that.
I'll be even more okay with that when DUST (and EvE) players can resell them on the in game market. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
Rain6639
Team Evil
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Posted - 2013.01.10 15:12:00 -
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in terms of gameplay [sandbox], I think Dust = F2P is fair. if you need me, I'll be on youtube watching russian car accident videos |
Toku Jiang
Jiang Laboratories and Discovery
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Posted - 2013.01.10 15:18:00 -
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It's FTP, but these games have been thriving. |
Rain6639
Team Evil
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Posted - 2013.01.10 15:18:00 -
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wut
http://www.dust514.com/game/free-to-play/ if you need me, I'll be on youtube watching russian car accident videos |
AlleyKat
The Unwanted.
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Posted - 2013.01.10 15:19:00 -
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But, is it Fun2Play as well as Free2Play?
GÇ£You go into combat, and itGÇÖs NOT going to be WagnerGǪindustrial techno or really hard drum and bassGÇ¥ Reynir Hardarson, founding member of CCP Games, 2002. |
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