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Captain Tardbar
State Protectorate Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2013.01.08 15:26:00 -
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Well here is the problem...
I went to a seminar for altruism (because work made me go) and they touted out numbers that said only 10% of people lack altruism and those who lack it are officially sociopaths who care not for others.
Which means truth be told only 10% of EVE players are really ripe bastards who scam, gank, bump, or whatever. It might be a little higher because... Well... EVE attracts sociopaths.
Which leaves 90% of EVE's player base not wanting to participate in such behaviors.
This results in subscription cancelations when that behavior gets out of hand.
Another factor in EVE is the fact that the majority of player live in high sec (i've seen numbers touted from anyone from 70-80% of the player base) which means the vast majority of EVE does not want to participate in non-consensual pvp.
One thing that proves ganking and other greifing causes subscription losses is the fact that CCP buffed mining barges after Hulkaggedon. If there was not a problem they would have left it as it is, but apparently it caused enough turmoil to actually warrant changing the game.
The fact of the matter is that the more you greif the more they will change the game and no amount of the sociopath's complaining on the forums will change the matter.
What CCP is looking at instead of the forums is the reasons why people cancel accounts (its the survey you fill out when quitting).
If CCP sees that a certain percentage of people are qutting because their frieghters are ganked or ships were bumped then eventually they will change the game mechanics. |
Metal Icarus
Legion Of Idiots legion of extraordinary Idi0ts
484
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Posted - 2013.01.08 16:07:00 -
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OP is in TEST and saying this bullcrap...
Well maybe if you guys didnt set your alliance up to have a "us(reddit) vs them (everyone who isnt from SA or reddit)" attitude then you wouldn't have this issue.
Quit eve, you're a part of the ******* problem that you're complaining about OP. |
Max Doobie
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
71
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Posted - 2013.01.08 16:23:00 -
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Metal Icarus wrote:OP is in TEST and saying this bullcrap...
Well maybe if you guys didnt set your alliance up to have a "us(reddit) vs them (everyone who isnt from SA or reddit)" attitude then you wouldn't have this issue.
Quit eve, you're a part of the ******* problem that you're complaining about OP.
The only corp in Test that requires Reddit account is Dreddit.
I have been an active voice for inclusion for a long time in EVE and other MMOs. I am against shunning new people. I didn't like it when it was done to me, and I don't want it done to others. |
Metal Icarus
Legion Of Idiots legion of extraordinary Idi0ts
484
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Posted - 2013.01.08 16:25:00 -
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Max Doobie wrote:Metal Icarus wrote:OP is in TEST and saying this bullcrap...
Well maybe if you guys didnt set your alliance up to have a "us(reddit) vs them (everyone who isnt from SA or reddit)" attitude then you wouldn't have this issue.
Quit eve, you're a part of the ******* problem that you're complaining about OP. The only corp in Test that requires Reddit account is Dreddit. I have been an active voice for inclusion for a long time in EVE and other MMOs. I am against shunning new people. I didn't like it when it was done to me, and I don't want it done to others.
Well then keep up with your tone in your community. Here, you're trolling. (or think you're trolling) |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3197
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Posted - 2013.01.08 16:51:00 -
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Metal Icarus wrote:Max Doobie wrote:Metal Icarus wrote:OP is in TEST and saying this bullcrap...
Well maybe if you guys didnt set your alliance up to have a "us(reddit) vs them (everyone who isnt from SA or reddit)" attitude then you wouldn't have this issue.
Quit eve, you're a part of the ******* problem that you're complaining about OP. The only corp in Test that requires Reddit account is Dreddit. I have been an active voice for inclusion for a long time in EVE and other MMOs. I am against shunning new people. I didn't like it when it was done to me, and I don't want it done to others. Well then keep up with your tone in your community. Here, you're trolling. (or think you're trolling) We include everyone in our trolling list.
HTFU and go back to Jita local if GD is too harsh and cold for you. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |
Zimmy Zeta
RvB - RED Federation
5391
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Posted - 2013.01.08 16:59:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:
We include everyone in our trolling list.
HTFU and go back to Jita local if GD is too harsh and cold for you.
Did you just derail a thread that was about beginners vs bittervets but got derailed to carebears vs TEST before it got derailed to pirates vs carebears to goons vs. everybody else?
This thread is confusing the hell out of me... Morgan Freeman ordered me to self-destruct....now what's your excuse? |
Winchester Steele
A Perfectly Normal Corp.
57
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Posted - 2013.01.08 17:32:00 -
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Max Doobie wrote:
You? That'd be my guess.
Not because you podded them.
It's because I'm well aware of your posting history. You have got to be one of the most obnoxious and immature people I have ever encountered. You're probably a 95 pound ginger with zits, and you use these forums to verbally assault people in order to mask your inadequacies.
Pot meet kettle. You are one of the worst shitposters I've ever had the displeasure to read on GD and you're calling him out? Also, your insults and baseless assumptions about Solstice make you sound very mature and not elitist at all. Who is the internet tough guy again? Look at your own moaning, whining shitpost history before you point fingers at others mmmkay?
Regards,
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Mire Stoude
Antelope with Night Vision Goggles
62
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Posted - 2013.01.08 17:32:00 -
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Max Doobie wrote:... TLDR: If you can't read this, then It's not geared to you anyway, for obvious reasons. If you can'ttake time to read a forum post then I sure as hell don't expect you to take the time to help anyone.
Awesome, thanks for the heads up. I thought I might actually have to read all that. I'm glad to learn I didn't have to. |
Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
444
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Posted - 2013.01.08 17:36:00 -
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I play the only game all around the place for elitist and intelligent people.
You train off line, kill rabbits for IG money is worthless because you're so much smarter doing it with your credit card, and you need a not very fat nor very thin but very brainy finger to hit F1.
You'll never guess what game is |
Karrl Tian
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
149
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Posted - 2013.01.08 17:44:00 -
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I love how everyone wants to protect noobs in starter ships so that they'll never learn how the game works, lose a more expensive ship doing something they should have learned not to do in their first week or so, and then ragequit over it. |
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Max Doobie
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
72
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Posted - 2013.01.08 18:48:00 -
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Metal Icarus wrote:Max Doobie wrote:Metal Icarus wrote:OP is in TEST and saying this bullcrap...
Well maybe if you guys didnt set your alliance up to have a "us(reddit) vs them (everyone who isnt from SA or reddit)" attitude then you wouldn't have this issue.
Quit eve, you're a part of the ******* problem that you're complaining about OP. The only corp in Test that requires Reddit account is Dreddit. I have been an active voice for inclusion for a long time in EVE and other MMOs. I am against shunning new people. I didn't like it when it was done to me, and I don't want it done to others. Well then keep up with your tone in your community. Here, you're trolling. (or think you're trolling)
I am not trolling. That is why I am posting on my main character. It's because I quite frankly couldn't give a crap what people think about me speaking my mind. TEST, Goons Or anyone else. I am not anyone's flunkie. I believe what I believe. I have no reason troll in regards to new players. I take this very seriously. Again, because I truly love this game. |
Vaju Enki
Secular Wisdom
315
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Posted - 2013.01.08 19:02:00 -
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Can't believe i read the OP nonsense rant, but the truth shocker, the OP is from TEST... what the hell is happening over there, is TEST lowering their standards and doing some recycling in reddit? This guy should be in The Star Fraction If you want instant gratification, go stimulate your genitals. EvE is Hard, deal with it. |
Mr Pragmatic
481
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Posted - 2013.01.08 19:08:00 -
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I really think its up to CCP to market their game.
Now that's what I call edgy! Vote for me in the next CSM Elections. I will fight for the interest of all Hi-sec dwellers. No longer will you be cast aside and disparaged. |
EI Digin
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
419
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Posted - 2013.01.08 19:10:00 -
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Take note newbies.
"Old", "hardened", and "veteran" players (who hide behind NPCs in highsec) want to see you be trolled, griefed, and ultimately quit the game. They want to see the large groups of new players in TEST and Goonswarm fight and dissolve so they can munch on them individually. They want to see nullsec nerfed drastically so that they can come and kill us at no risk to themselves.
But together in nullsec, we are strong because we can group up and fight the evildoers ourselves without having to worry about elite player only mechanics like "station games". And then they whine and moan about us making nullsec a "big blue donut" because there are no easy free kills for them anymore! And they cry about how nullsec is full of "botters" and "RMT". But deep down inside, we all know exactly what's going on. |
Max Doobie
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
72
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Posted - 2013.01.08 19:15:00 -
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EI Digin wrote:Take note newbies.
"Old", "hardened", and "veteran" players (who hide behind NPCs in highsec) want to see you be trolled, griefed, and ultimately quit the game. They want to see the large groups of new players in TEST and Goonswarm fight and dissolve so they can munch on them individually. They want to see nullsec nerfed drastically so that they can come and kill us at no risk to themselves.
But together in nullsec, we are strong because we can group up and fight the evildoers ourselves without having to worry about elite player only mechanics like "station games". And then they whine and moan about us making nullsec a "big blue donut" because there are no easy free kills for them anymore! And they cry about how nullsec is full of "botters" and "RMT". But deep down inside, we all know exactly what's going on.
She speaks truth....
If TEST and Goons are so hostile to new people, how come we have the largest pools of noobs out of any other alliance in game, apart from Ivy League of course?
How do you think we got so large? By scamming brand new players? By being snobby and telling new players to just figure it out and gtfo of our faces? No. TEST and Goons are the poster children for inclusion and patience. That's why people envy us. I speak as a new player myself, CCP owes HBC and CFC for my 3 accounts, I can tell you that with a straight face. I found some cool people to play with, patient and knowledgeable. THEY are the reason I stayed. |
Dessau
95
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Posted - 2013.01.08 19:18:00 -
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My unsolicited advice to tenderfoot pilots is to play the game and steer well clear of General Discussion. That should go a long way to enhancing the NPE.
Solo is one player, one pilot. |
Marlona Sky
D00M. Northern Coalition.
2840
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Posted - 2013.01.08 19:22:00 -
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Blues most of null.
Complains about being bored.
Is TEST.
Remove local, structure mails and revamp the directional scanner! |
Max Doobie
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
73
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Posted - 2013.01.08 19:42:00 -
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Marlona Sky wrote:Blues most of null. Complains about being bored. Is TEST.
When did I say I was bored Marlona?
If you want to apply, just apply. I'm sure we'd take you. |
Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
703
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Posted - 2013.01.08 19:47:00 -
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Thread condemning elitists snobs is immediately trolled to four pages by elitist snobs.
I am Kat's utter lack of surprise. EvE Forum Bingo |
ErrorRon
The Drunken Empire Fatal Ascension
15
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Posted - 2013.01.08 19:53:00 -
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+1 for not posting on an alt. And for it not being a terrible post too. |
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Ryuji Takemiya
Omni Tech Industries Initiative Associates
18
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Posted - 2013.01.08 19:59:00 -
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Max Doobie wrote:
I am not trolling. That is why I am posting on my main character. It's because I quite frankly couldn't give a crap what people think about me speaking my mind. TEST, Goons Or anyone else. I am not anyone's flunkie. I believe what I believe. I have no reason troll in regards to new players. I take this very seriously. Again, because I truly love this game.
It is hard to take you seriously though, Max. TEST isn't full-Dbag obviously, no Alliance is, but to hear you complain on how players shouldn't be dicks and then to look at who you associate yourself with... ahem. It's like listening to someone who works in a Casino telling people they shouldn't be gambling. So why are you still working in the Casino?
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Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
239
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Posted - 2013.01.08 21:19:00 -
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Captain Tardbar wrote:Another factor in EVE is the fact that the majority of player live in high sec (i've seen numbers touted from anyone from 70-80% of the player base) which means the vast majority of EVE does not want to participate in non-consensual pvp.
In EVE, you consent to PvP when you login.
Edit: And that is a good thing. |
Hans Zwaardhandler
Borealis Mining Concern CORE Alliance
42
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Posted - 2013.01.08 21:31:00 -
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EI Digin wrote:CFC and the HBC have done more for new players than highsec ever will.
This is truly the real reason why highsec should be nerfed, highseccers just chase new players away with their misguided elitism. In highsec you're either in a pimped out marauder or T3, or you're in a hulk or mackinaw or you're worthless, whereas in nullsec t1 frigates and new players who are willing to take risks are actually useful and are rewarded by those who remember the difficulties they had as a new player.
When's the last time you sent someone who's been in the game for less than a month isk for helping you? Or are you too busy racking up the amount on your wallet screen to care?
This is the real reason why we hate you, because you're all sociopaths.
Despite what many people say and the hatred that has been fostered against the Goonswarm and Test, they have actually done quite more for the game than many others. They have managed to have new players stick with them because they are apparently fun to be with, help out newer players, encourage them to stay and let them share in the spoils, a radically different viewpoint than many other pilots and corporations in Eve see. That has allowed them to rally numbers effectively and efficiently, and then people complain and moan. It's amazing if truth be told. |
JC Anderson
Noir. Black Legion.
895
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Posted - 2013.01.08 23:09:00 -
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EI Digin wrote:CFC and the HBC have done more for new players than highsec ever will.
This is truly the real reason why highsec should be nerfed, highseccers just chase new players away with their misguided elitism. In highsec you're either in a pimped out marauder or T3, or you're in a hulk or mackinaw or you're worthless, whereas in nullsec t1 frigates and new players who are willing to take risks are actually useful and are rewarded by those who remember the difficulties they had as a new player.
When's the last time you sent someone who's been in the game for less than a month isk for helping you? Or are you too busy racking up the amount on your wallet screen to care?
This is the real reason why we hate you, because you're all sociopaths.
It happens more often that you think. I have helped new players quite a few times with ISK donations. In one case I sent 136m to one player to help then cover losses after they started a thread here on the forums. I had never even heard of the person before that, so it wasn't somebody I helped because I knew.
---> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=96497&p=2
Normally I wouldn't have, but that player seemed like somebody who would take advice, accept the donation, and know not to make the same mistake again.
On top of that, if you read through that thread, I wasn't the only long time player to help out either. |
Xtreem
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Test Alliance Please Ignore
100
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Posted - 2013.01.08 23:11:00 -
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Without new players eve will eventually die, simple as. Although as a bittervet i dont want anything changed so much it screws me for all my hard earned years |
Piugattuk
Lima beans Corp
286
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Posted - 2013.01.08 23:25:00 -
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OP are you trying to unseat me as the most elite parasite carebear
No seriously you have a good point an I agree there's too much snobbish behavior but it comes from those who want to feel superior. |
Murk Paradox
Dvice Shipyards No Value
205
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Posted - 2013.01.09 17:07:00 -
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There's a huge difference between pilots and players unfortunately (or fortunately, depending on your view).
A good player can adapt and use things to his advantage (tool usage, think outside the box, play an alt differently than his main).
A good pilot knows what he has and can only use those to his advantage.
One is not necessarily the other.
One of the biggest problems to the mindset of a good pilot versus a good player is the idea that you need to be an ass to be good or popular.
Makes you a bad player, even if you're a good pilot.
The best players are the ones who can act and play a game to be playing the game, not letting the game play them. "I say tomato, you say tomaCCP BAN ALL TOMATOES THEY ARE HARASSING ME I WANT TOMATO FREE HIGHSEC."-á -TheGunslinger42 Proud enforcer of the Code, see [url]http://www.minerbumping.com[/url] for details. |
Max Doobie
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
74
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Posted - 2013.01.09 19:54:00 -
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Murk Paradox wrote:There's a huge difference between pilots and players unfortunately (or fortunately, depending on your view).
A good player can adapt and use things to his advantage (tool usage, think outside the box, play an alt differently than his main).
A good pilot knows what he has and can only use those to his advantage.
One is not necessarily the other.
One of the biggest problems to the mindset of a good pilot versus a good player is the idea that you need to be an ass to be good or popular.
Makes you a bad player, even if you're a good pilot.
The best players are the ones who can act and play a game to be playing the game, not letting the game play them.
That's real talk bruh. Respect.
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Murk Paradox
Dvice Shipyards No Value
206
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Posted - 2013.01.09 20:05:00 -
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Max Doobie wrote:Murk Paradox wrote:There's a huge difference between pilots and players unfortunately (or fortunately, depending on your view).
A good player can adapt and use things to his advantage (tool usage, think outside the box, play an alt differently than his main).
A good pilot knows what he has and can only use those to his advantage.
One is not necessarily the other.
One of the biggest problems to the mindset of a good pilot versus a good player is the idea that you need to be an ass to be good or popular.
Makes you a bad player, even if you're a good pilot.
The best players are the ones who can act and play a game to be playing the game, not letting the game play them. That's real talk bruh. Respect.
Try to remember that next time I go through TEST space from Gondista to Stain and get caught in one of your Alliance's bubbles please =) "I say tomato, you say tomaCCP BAN ALL TOMATOES THEY ARE HARASSING ME I WANT TOMATO FREE HIGHSEC."-á -TheGunslinger42 Proud enforcer of the Code, see [url]http://www.minerbumping.com[/url] for details. |
Tarvos Telesto
Blood Fanatics
712
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Posted - 2013.01.09 20:58:00 -
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People are responsible for whining and rumor on forum and spreading chaos and mention that EvE is rip, while people who are inside game and these who stay away from forum got a lot fun. EvE isn't game, its style of living. |
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