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Commander Ted
Sudden Buggery Swift Angels Alliance
397
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Posted - 2013.01.10 08:46:00 -
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I only play games on the ipad when taking a ****. I don't spend 6 hours a day playing angry birds. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=174097 Separate all 4 empires in eve with lowsec. |
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra Gallente Federation
1231
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Posted - 2013.01.10 09:48:00 -
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"There is certainly a market for that as well, but again, there's that market where the physical buttons and the controls are very important for that intuitive and intricate gameplay control."
http://au.gamespot.com/news/console-business-here-to-stay-says-sony-ceo-6402172 |
OffBeaT
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2013.01.10 09:55:00 -
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yess well, I know my Raven/cal BC have become obsolete.. |
The Lady Nighthawk
Earths Naval Space Command
22
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Posted - 2013.01.10 09:56:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:All of that motion and touch screen and stuff like that - it's a gimmick. I won't be using it. Why would I want touch screen? It just makes the screen filthy. And why would I want to wave my arms around to fly a spaceship? Screw that, EVE has no need to evolve for the "next generation" of hardware, because traditional hardware will always be used by a majority of people.
EVE is not obsolete.
The fact u typed this shows how stupid and arragont you are.
laptops and linux based machines outsell windows and desktops non stop
Windows 8 is a joke, windows 7 is a joke
You quite clearly are another tool who thinks he knows what a pc really is and has no idea how to not troll people who work in th IT ndustry |
The Lady Nighthawk
Earths Naval Space Command
22
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Posted - 2013.01.10 09:57:00 -
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And this aswell
u trust anything sony says after there latest fackas, ur a fool
ur just another follower
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Lexmana
879
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Posted - 2013.01.10 10:00:00 -
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The Lady Nighthawk wrote:And this aswell u trust anything sony says after there latest fackas, ur a fool ur just another follower I you beleive everything they say is wrong you are even a bigger fool. Or just a hater. |
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra Gallente Federation
1231
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Posted - 2013.01.10 10:01:00 -
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The Lady Nighthawk wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:All of that motion and touch screen and stuff like that - it's a gimmick. I won't be using it. Why would I want touch screen? It just makes the screen filthy. And why would I want to wave my arms around to fly a spaceship? Screw that, EVE has no need to evolve for the "next generation" of hardware, because traditional hardware will always be used by a majority of people.
EVE is not obsolete. The fact u typed this shows how stupid and arragont you are. laptops and linux based machines outsell windows and desktops non stop Windows 8 is a joke, windows 7 is a joke You quite clearly are another tool who thinks he knows what a pc really is and has no idea how to not troll people who work in th IT ndustry
Chill out. What's with the personal attacks? Tell you what... instead of just telling me why I'm "stupid and arragont[sic]" why don't you actually present an argument? Also, due to my own personal desire to see people act like adults on these forums instead of all the personal attacks that actually don't make any kind of point at all regarding the topic, I'm reporting your post
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
6901
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Posted - 2013.01.10 10:02:00 -
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The Lady Nighthawk wrote:And this aswell u trust anything sony says after there latest fackas, ur a fool ur just another follower
"fackas"?
Did you mean 'fracas'? MatrixSkye Mk2: "Remember: You consent to unconsensual PVP the moment you press the "Undock" button." |
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra Gallente Federation
1231
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Posted - 2013.01.10 10:04:00 -
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The Lady Nighthawk wrote:And this aswell u trust anything sony says after there latest fackas, ur a fool ur just another follower
Just because sony is about to screw up game trading, which will ultimately ruin their business, doesn't mean that this statement is wrong. Did you even get it? Or read it? Or did you just see the word "Sony" and go blue in the face? You seem to be a little mistaken about the case I'm making. Go take a cold shower, and a purcocet, come back when you're less ragey. Cheers. |
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra Gallente Federation
1231
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Posted - 2013.01.10 10:09:00 -
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The Lady Nighthawk wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:All of that motion and touch screen and stuff like that - it's a gimmick. I won't be using it. Why would I want touch screen? It just makes the screen filthy. And why would I want to wave my arms around to fly a spaceship? Screw that, EVE has no need to evolve for the "next generation" of hardware, because traditional hardware will always be used by a majority of people.
EVE is not obsolete. The fact u typed this shows how stupid and arragont you are. laptops and linux based machines outsell windows and desktops non stop Windows 8 is a joke, windows 7 is a joke You quite clearly are another tool who thinks he knows what a pc really is and has no idea how to not troll people who work in th IT ndustry
I still can't believe you said "linux based machines" though. Do you even know what you're talking about? Do you know what statistics are, or have you read the thread? I personally dual boot windows 7 and linux - personally, I will argue that Linux is superior, but the fact is, far more people use windows than linux. Less than five per cent of people use linux. If you knew what you were talking about, you would know that. If you worked in the IT industry, you would know that.
I just still can't believe you actually wrote this after what's happened during the discussion in this thread so far. You might have discovered the part where I'm an avid Linux user and supporter, as I am of any open source software.
Seriously... I feel like I should be offended, and I was mad initially at the venom you spat at me, but I've actually started laughing at the irony of you calling me stupid - pot, meet kettle. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |
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Hir Miriel
Elves In Space
2
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Posted - 2013.01.10 10:53:00 -
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When CCP starts developing EVE without using desktops then I might worry about the future of desktops.
Function is why I use desktops, my fingers are too large for small gadgetry. A keyboard works for me.
And if EVE dives headlong into letting players do their own CREST API and other development then all that is better done at a more ergonomically friendly desktop.
Even if it is developing EVE apps for phones.
And that is where I find the future interesting.
Why should the devs get all the fun of the game development game? Good to see they are willing to share. |
Abu Tarynnia
Abu Tarynnia Corporation
72
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Posted - 2013.01.10 11:12:00 -
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What about parts of EVE that are not in space ? Like skill-queue, PI, station-trading ... this should be easily solvable for smart-phones/tablets/whatsoever. And further more I think we witness the last days of desktops though I prefer them. The next generation doesn't know desktops .. at most they use laptops ... and that's the beginning of the end ;)
YOU CANNOT HAVE MY STUFF!!!! |
iskflakes
Magnets Inc.
259
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Posted - 2013.01.10 11:15:00 -
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Abu Tarynnia wrote:What about parts of EVE that are not in space ? Like skill-queue, PI, station-trading ... this should be easily solvable for smart-phones/tablets/whatsoever.
CCP have been developing a new API to let players write their own apps for this kind of thing. Unfortunately there are some serious licensing issues that make it nearly impossible to work with. Track your wealth with EVEStats - https://ohheck.co.uk/EVEStats/home.php |
TharOkha
0asis Group
492
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Posted - 2013.01.10 11:46:00 -
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Abu Tarynnia wrote:What about parts of EVE that are not in space ? Like skill-queue, PI, station-trading ... this should be easily solvable for smart-phones/tablets/whatsoever. This is something that i wolud like to see on portable devices too.
Quote:And further more I think we witness the last days of desktops though I prefer them. The next generation doesn't know desktops .. at most they use laptops ... and that's the beginning of the end ;)
Oh please not this again . Read the whole thread again and youll find that desktops are not going anywhere and why (hint1, hint2 ) GÇ£If reality can destroy the dream, why shouldn't the dream destroy reality?GÇ¥ |
luZk
x13 Whores in space
89
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Posted - 2013.01.10 12:28:00 -
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Congratulations you have started the the "EVE is dying thread" number 10.000. it's been 10 long years on the way, let's take a look on a few highlights from past years... |
Thomas Gore
Black Dawn Rising
189
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Posted - 2013.01.10 12:31:00 -
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PCs are like boobs. The big ones are always in fashion. |
Una Achura
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2013.01.10 12:46:00 -
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This made me put on Wierd Al again.
"About as useful as JPEGs to Hellen Keller"
It's all about the pentiums |
Komari Vosa
RADIO RAMPAGE Initiative Mercenaries
3
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Posted - 2013.01.10 12:47:00 -
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I see CCP addressing these issues with such things as the new developer api. Over the years eve players have asked for many things. Features such as skill training, market, and contracts allowing for access from mobile devices. Imagine being able to connect through touch screen devices in order to interact with all aspects of eve short of the actual gameplay. There are many players that rarely undock from stations because all they take part in are the aspects of the game that don't involve the actual "space ships". I can see this also tied in with Dust 514 interaction.
This would allow ccp to accomplish another first in the area of mmo gameplay. Imagine always being able to check the market and your buy/sell orders anywhere in the game. The ability to create courier missions to get those goods from system to system. The ability to monitor and manipulate your planetary interaction from anywhere. Chat with your corp mates, check/create eve mails. Buy/Sell connects or check on the contract auction you have made / are bidding on. The blue prints you are copying/researching or the factory slots you have manufacturing.
All of this from your mobile device. I am sure there are a few things I missed that would fit into this new world order of computing. |
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra Gallente Federation
1239
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Posted - 2013.01.10 13:25:00 -
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Thank you for making me smile. I needed that tonight. Really bad day. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |
King Rothgar
CONTRATTO IMPERIAL LEGI0N
343
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Posted - 2013.01.10 14:04:00 -
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9/10. Well done sir! The Troll is trolling. |
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Gitanmaxx
Viziam Amarr Empire
80
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Posted - 2013.01.10 15:59:00 -
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I know some of you use linux, I've got a friend who swore by it until I got him to try os x. But in all honesty you are a tiny minority. Most pc owners don't like having to mess with their os constantly. I use linux for recovery and if I need to use someone elses system, i throw in my linux usb. But it's never going to outsell windows.
As for touch screen, that could work but I don't see eve going that route. Really the only gaming machines that are going to continue selling in mass quantities are consoles. I know all the pc purists hate that, it's how it is though. |
Buzzy Warstl
The Strontium Asylum
436
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Posted - 2013.01.10 16:05:00 -
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Eh, I use Linux because I don't have to mess with it constantly.
OS X would be good, too, but I don't have hardware for that except at work.
Having not maintained Windows myself in over a decade, I'd have quite the learning curve. In fact my laptop only runs Linux since I managed to brick the Windows 7 installation trying to get the driver and security updates installed. http://www.mud.co.uk/richard/hcds.htm Richard Bartle: Players who suit MUDs |
Abu Tarynnia
Abu Tarynnia Corporation
74
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Posted - 2013.01.10 16:13:00 -
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TharOkha wrote:Oh please not this again . Read the whole thread again and youll find that desktops are not going anywhere and why ( hint1, hint2 ) In fact, we are hearing this mayan apocalypse of desktops predictions since 1980s.
It was just what I recogniced when I was a teacher .. the kids ran around with laptops .. most with tablets ... and yes, I think this is madness .. and not sparta. YOU CANNOT HAVE MY STUFF!!!! |
Sebastian N Cain
Aliastra Gallente Federation
157
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Posted - 2013.01.10 16:40:00 -
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Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote:TharOkha wrote:Le Badass wrote: According to Ramiel, programmers always make the fullest possible use of the hardware available, so you won't have to compromise on anything control/interface-wise when the mobile client does hit.
Bullsh!t. Just look at Crysis2 or Diablo3. EVE is maybe the last true PC game without any compromises. Christ, Eve is that last remaining this, the last remaining that, the top of this, the hard core of that... I say BS!! You can't simply download it and make it work without issues, or it's 1 machine over a couple ones with no issues. We're a lot of costumers with issues to run even a single account properly with hardware perfectly capable to run several accounts when other guys seem to have no problem at all, so I'd like to know from some genius, how the heck is this even possible on good machines, updated, download the same client and have different results? Eve it's like oranges, when you download your client you never know if it's sweet or bitter Well, on PC you have billions of possible combinations for hardware/software. A dev can-¦t possible check up all of them. So there might be sloppily written drivers from a specific manufacturer that create issues with the eve-client. Or sloppily written drivers that create issues with the OS. And of course hardware that theoretically has good specs, but is actually garbage and you won-¦t get the expected performance out of it. And sometimes it doesn-¦t work because the universe just hates you. "You either need less science fiction or more medication."
"Or less medication and more ammo!" |
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra Gallente Federation
1250
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Posted - 2013.01.11 01:42:00 -
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Gitanmaxx wrote:I know some of you use linux, I've got a friend who swore by it until I got him to try os x. But in all honesty you are a tiny minority. Most pc owners don't like having to mess with their os constantly. I use linux for recovery and if I need to use someone elses system, i throw in my linux usb. But it's never going to outsell windows.
As for touch screen, that could work but I don't see eve going that route. Really the only gaming machines that are going to continue selling in mass quantities are consoles. I know all the pc purists hate that, it's how it is though.
Linux is never going to outsell anything. It's free. The PC purists have their own problems - I'm a multi-platform user, btw, and dual boot both Linux and Windows, something I would encourage anyone familiar with Linux to do. The thing is, they complement each other. I also own both PS3 and an Xbox 360, and enjoy them as much as I do my PC. The only things I avoid are Nintendo (because the Wii is more of a social toy, and I'm not that social) and anything by Apple (for reasons that if I went into them, it would cause a heated debate, which I would prefer to avoid for the moment). IMO, and remember that means "opinion" so by its very nature I don't care if you disagree with me, Mac and anything starting with "i" sucks. And yes, I have used them, like I mentioned I'm not trying to start a debate, and trying to convince me otherwise will be pointless, because I have made up my mind.
However, even if I did use Mac, I wouldn't need it, because Win7 and Linux Mint 13 complement each other in ways I never thought possible. Not only can I access the drive partition that both OS exist on from either OS, but fiddling with a few extra layers in Linux actually allows me to run windows programs on linux straight out of my windows partition. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |
Hrothgar Nilsson
Black Core Federation Black Core Alliance
221
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Posted - 2013.01.11 17:19:00 -
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Ageck Kalenia wrote:All this attention might suggest the future of EVE is rosy and bright, but consider:
- The future of traditional x86 and x64 PC architecture is increasingly vague. Laptops have been outselling desktop systems for years, but tablet sales are gaining exponentially. A whopping 122 million ARM-based tablets and smartphones sold in 2012. I really think all of this talk about tablets/touchscreens replacing the PC/laptop is a bunch of hype. I believe the reality is is that desktops and laptops have reached the point of market saturation, and as the market has become saturated, existing PC/laptop has slowed.
There hasn't really been that much of a technological change in software that necessarily requires the replacement of a 2008 computer in 2013. Yet, on the other hand, there is extremely rapid turnover in ownership of smartphones - the typical person goes through several in the time a typical PC/laptop owner replaces their computer.
The entire cell phone industry heavily incentivizes the rapid, serial discardment of old phones and replacement with new ones.
So, in that regard, comparing smartphone to PC/laptop sales is a false comparison. It is really apples and oranges. On the spectrum between disposable and durable goods, smartphones tend toward the disposable end, while PCs/laptops tend toward the durable end. Something like 130 million cell phones are discarded each year in the US, whereas computers are discarded at about 10-15% that rate.
With tablets, they may be replacing the laptop for consumers with relatively minimal needs, but I'd say this segment of the consumer place are mostly not the type of people who were intensive gamers to begin with. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTzA_xesrL8 |
FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks
2499
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Posted - 2013.01.11 22:07:00 -
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Oh look, a stealth "PC gaming is dead" thread. I remember having this coversation 15 years ago, around the time to Playstation 2 or xBox was announced.
PC gaming isn't dead. Eve isn't obsolete. Both will evolve. Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement. |
FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks
2499
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Posted - 2013.01.11 22:13:00 -
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Hrothgar Nilsson wrote:Ageck Kalenia wrote:All this attention might suggest the future of EVE is rosy and bright, but consider:
- The future of traditional x86 and x64 PC architecture is increasingly vague. Laptops have been outselling desktop systems for years, but tablet sales are gaining exponentially. A whopping 122 million ARM-based tablets and smartphones sold in 2012. I really think all of this talk about tablets/touchscreens replacing the PC/laptop is a bunch of hype. I believe the reality is is that desktops and laptops have reached the point of market saturation, and as the market has become saturated, existing PC/laptop has slowed. There hasn't really been that much of a technological change in software that necessarily requires the replacement of a 2008 computer in 2013. Yet, on the other hand, there is extremely rapid turnover in ownership of smartphones - the typical person goes through several in the time a typical PC/laptop owner replaces their computer. The entire cell phone industry heavily incentivizes the rapid, serial discardment of old phones and replacement with new ones. So, in that regard, comparing smartphone to PC/laptop sales is a false comparison. It is really apples and oranges. On the spectrum between disposable and durable goods, smartphones tend toward the disposable end, while PCs/laptops tend toward the durable end. Something like 130 million cell phones are discarded each year in the US, whereas computers are discarded at about 10-15% that rate. With tablets, they may be replacing the laptop for consumers with relatively minimal needs, but I'd say this segment of the consumer place are mostly not the type of people who were intensive gamers to begin with. Pretty much this. More and more people are satisfied with the performace of their PCs for longer periods of time. There hasn't been a compelling reason to upgrade in years, unless there's a particular new game that won't run on your existing hardware.
I have an Asus Transformer and I love the thing. I'm using it right now. The touch interface is great for casual stuff...but how well suited is it for my dual 24" monitors at home? That seems horribly less productive than using a mouse where I can move between screens with a flick of the wrist, all while sitting far enough back that I can see all the information on my screen.
These doomsayers are almost always idiots who can't imagine computers being used beyond the simple single-screen browser and word processor they see them as. They don't understand just how much versatility you give up to adopt a tablet as your primary computing device. Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
12603
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Posted - 2013.01.11 22:14:00 -
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FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:Oh look, a stealth "PC gaming is dead" thread. Really? It's about as stealth as an army of panicked elephants with Big Berthas on their backs. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan. |
Amitious Turkey
The Scope Gallente Federation
101
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Posted - 2013.01.11 22:44:00 -
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FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:They don't understand just how much versatility you give up to adopt a tablet as your primary computing device.
This. I have no reason to buy a tablet. My laptop does everything I want in a single platform.
I can see devices eventually consolidating into a single platform that services all of your needs, but not the laptop going the way of the dinosaur. If anything it's more likely we'll end up with a standard product that's much more like a laptop than a tablet or smartphone.
Also, I would hate to play any game on a smaller screen, especially Eve. I like to lick things.
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