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Deviana Sevidon
Panta-Rhei Butterfly Effect Alliance
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Posted - 2011.10.08 11:55:00 -
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I have question about one of the Dust514 and the War Room.
The room was described in this blog: http://www.dust514.com/en/news/article/2041/tools-of-the-trade
So this meeting room is only for dust players or will it also connect to EVE and corp offices, becoming a place of EVE and Dust players to meet?
Quote:The life of a mercenary is about fighting, but taking over a planet is no small task, so players will find themselves spending a lot of time in the War Room GÇô a 3D lobby where players can go over their vehicle and character fittings; stock up on items from the corp inventory or the marketplace; chat with fellow corp members or once-off hires; scrutinize potential strategies and just generally get ready for the battles to come. Each War Room supports a maximum of 32 players at once. Players navigate the social spaces in DUST (of which the War Room is the first) in third-person. |
mechtech
SRS Industries SRS.
33
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Posted - 2011.10.08 12:02:00 -
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That feature is Dust only, although there is a comparable feature for Eve that is planned for Incarna; corp headquarters. |
Nandy Cocytus
Pandemonium Private Consultants LLC
8
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Posted - 2011.10.08 13:39:00 -
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mechtech wrote:That feature is Dust only, although there is a comparable feature for Eve that is planned for Incarna; corp headquarters.
Fingers crossed for awesome.
So it goes. |
Apollo-Moor
xHELLonEARTHx Rookie Empire
23
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Posted - 2011.10.08 18:02:00 -
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Deviana Sevidon wrote:I have question about one of the Dust514 and the War Room. The room was described in this blog: http://www.dust514.com/en/news/article/2041/tools-of-the-tradeSo this meeting room is only for dust players or will it also connect to EVE and corp offices, becoming a place of EVE and Dust players to meet? Quote:The life of a mercenary is about fighting, but taking over a planet is no small task, so players will find themselves spending a lot of time in the War Room GÇô a 3D lobby where players can go over their vehicle and character fittings; stock up on items from the corp inventory or the marketplace; chat with fellow corp members or once-off hires; scrutinize potential strategies and just generally get ready for the battles to come. Each War Room supports a maximum of 32 players at once. Players navigate the social spaces in DUST (of which the War Room is the first) in third-person.
With the fall of WiS comes the fall of DUST514. CCP might as well come out and say it now, while their being super honest with us and themselves. Don't string people along for the next year about this game. That'd just be bad. I personally have already moved on from the thoughts of DUST. Since it just wont be squat without WiS.. LoL
These two things were supposed to be intertwined. There's is no longer the EVE support factor for developing DUST. Don't waste our time or your development money CCP.
WoD, EVE or DUST pick something and get it right.. Cause right now being stretched is just delaying everything. DUST will become the next Startcraft Ghost.. |
Ugleb
Sarz'na Khumatari Ushra'Khan
28
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Posted - 2011.10.08 18:09:00 -
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Dust is not being designed to share environments with EVE from the outset, its something they hope to achieve later on. Furthmore, Dust is not being designed to rely solely on EVE. If either product fails then CCP knows they need to be able to keep the other going without it.
Their hope is obviously for both to succeed and grow together, but the delay to establishments does not mean that Dust can't go ahead. We just won't be walking around in the same rooms any time soon. http://uglebsjournal.wordpress.com/ |
malfoy
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2011.10.08 18:12:00 -
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could have told you that the day they were sold out and went one console only.
get yourselves a new boss guys this one sold you down the line. and i don't mean hilmar or anyone at ccp. |
Apollo-Moor
xHELLonEARTHx Rookie Empire
23
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Posted - 2011.10.08 18:17:00 -
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Ugleb wrote:Dust is not being designed to share environments with EVE from the outset, its something they hope to achieve later on. Furthmore, Dust is not being designed to rely solely on EVE. If either product fails then CCP knows they need to be able to keep the other going without it.
Their hope is obviously for both to succeed and grow together, but the delay to establishments does not mean that Dust can't go ahead. We just won't be walking around in the same rooms any time soon.
DUST players are supposed to be getting their directive straight from EVE players. Defending their planets and whatnot. WiS was supposed to bring you out of your ship so you could go abouts and do those things.
Now EVE no longer is focused in that direction. Meaning that DUST no longer has the support it was intended to have nor the interactivity. They'll have to scrap the vision they have for DUST and develope it as its own standalone game. Not something that is to be tied in with EVE. That would be moot at this point.
Therefore scrap DUST514 vision or release a game that wont have anyone playing it once they realize the other "half" of their game is missing.. |
Bienator II
24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire
173
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Posted - 2011.10.08 18:22:00 -
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would be cool to invite 400 people to my CQ and make a race to the balcony and back. You fail you fail you fail you fail you fail you fail you fail to jump because you are cloaked |
Equto
Rionnag Alba Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2011.10.08 18:48:00 -
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malfoy wrote:could have told you that the day they were sold out and went one console only.
get yourselves a new boss guys this one sold you down the line. and i don't mean hilmar or anyone at ccp.
See here is the funny part, they didn't sell out to one console. That was the only console that said " yes, you can connect to a server outside of the network". Microsoft, the people you love so much, would have either demanded X amount of profit every time a connection outside of live is made and/or said servers have monitoring software on them so that they can access the user data " for their needs".
What do you think will have more fallout " Hey eve pilots, we are bringing dust to the 360 as well but we must give over all your personal information to microsoft" or " were going sony only because microsoft is too closed" |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
360
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Posted - 2011.10.08 18:58:00 -
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Apollo-Moor wrote: DUST players are supposed to be getting their directive straight from EVE players. Defending their planets and whatnot. WiS was supposed to bring you out of your ship so you could go abouts and do those things.
You don't need WIS to interact with Dust players. All you need is an interface of some sort.
Now if only they had some sort of room you could sit in with a big screen in front of you...
Mr Epeen If you can read this, you haven't blocked me yet. |
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Aldan Romar
Imperial Academy
21
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Posted - 2011.10.08 19:50:00 -
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I must have missed the news that WIS failed, I thought it would be fed in smaller doses from now on...
Other than that, I can't remember WIS ever being a prerequesite for DUST-EVE interaction. They sure put thoughts into that direction, but that would just have been brainstorming.
I'm not sure I read a definite answer to the DUST-EVE interaction question, I guess it could be anything from a chat interface over a contract system, teamspeak, towards a fully fledged character interaction area. There's nothing worse than leaving a bad looking corpse |
Ugleb
Sarz'na Khumatari Ushra'Khan
28
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Posted - 2011.10.08 20:03:00 -
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Apollo-Moor wrote:Ugleb wrote:Dust is not being designed to share environments with EVE from the outset, its something they hope to achieve later on. Furthmore, Dust is not being designed to rely solely on EVE. If either product fails then CCP knows they need to be able to keep the other going without it.
Their hope is obviously for both to succeed and grow together, but the delay to establishments does not mean that Dust can't go ahead. We just won't be walking around in the same rooms any time soon. DUST players are supposed to be getting their directive straight from EVE players. Defending their planets and whatnot. WiS was supposed to bring you out of your ship so you could go abouts and do those things. Now EVE no longer is focused in that direction. Meaning that DUST no longer has the support it was intended to have nor the interactivity. They'll have to scrap the vision they have for DUST and develope it as its own standalone game. Not something that is to be tied in with EVE. That would be moot at this point. Therefore scrap DUST514 vision or release a game that wont have anyone playing it once they realize the other "half" of their game is missing..
The core DUST-EVE interaction is PI. EVE players hire Dust mercs to fight for control of the planets. That then leads on to the combat interaction of Dreadnoughts bombarding Dust battlefields or Dust mercs using 'skyfire batteries' to shoot down ships in space.
The ability to walk around in a station is not vital to either of those game mechanics. It would simply look good. Incarna was not all about preparing for Dust514, Tyrannis was. Dust is the other half of the PI feature and that has been 'incomplete' for some time already. http://uglebsjournal.wordpress.com/ |
Deviana Sevidon
Panta-Rhei Butterfly Effect Alliance
29
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Posted - 2011.10.08 20:08:00 -
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Apollo-Moor wrote:Ugleb wrote:Dust is not being designed to share environments with EVE from the outset, its something they hope to achieve later on. Furthmore, Dust is not being designed to rely solely on EVE. If either product fails then CCP knows they need to be able to keep the other going without it.
Their hope is obviously for both to succeed and grow together, but the delay to establishments does not mean that Dust can't go ahead. We just won't be walking around in the same rooms any time soon. DUST players are supposed to be getting their directive straight from EVE players. Defending their planets and whatnot. WiS was supposed to bring you out of your ship so you could go abouts and do those things. Now EVE no longer is focused in that direction. Meaning that DUST no longer has the support it was intended to have nor the interactivity. They'll have to scrap the vision they have for DUST and develope it as its own standalone game. Not something that is to be tied in with EVE. That would be moot at this point. Therefore scrap DUST514 vision or release a game that wont have anyone playing it once they realize the other "half" of their game is missing..
In that aspect you are wrong. The other 3 CQ, establishments and eventually corp offices and war rooms are still coming. The fact that the next expansion will bring some needed maintenance to other aspects of EVE does not mean the development is dropped. |
Zagdul
Clan Shadow Wolf Fatal Ascension
46
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Posted - 2011.10.08 20:25:00 -
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Holy **** the tinfoil hat in this thread is strong.
It's not Rocket Surgery |
Temple Marketeer
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2011.10.08 20:51:00 -
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malfoy wrote:could have told you that the day they were sold out and went one console only.
get yourselves a new boss guys this one sold you down the line. and i don't mean hilmar or anyone at ccp.
CRY MOAR FANBOI
OH, sweet sweet fanboi tears
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malfoy
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2011.10.08 20:59:00 -
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should have said backer not boss. mistake on my part. |
Written Word
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
25
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Posted - 2011.10.08 21:07:00 -
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Considering there is absolutely no multiplayer support/net code in Carbon (smrt move CCP) I'd say war rooms are years away. |
Apollo-Moor
xHELLonEARTHx Rookie Empire
24
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Posted - 2011.10.08 22:45:00 -
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Ugleb wrote:Apollo-Moor wrote:Ugleb wrote:Dust is not being designed to share environments with EVE from the outset, its something they hope to achieve later on. Furthmore, Dust is not being designed to rely solely on EVE. If either product fails then CCP knows they need to be able to keep the other going without it.
Their hope is obviously for both to succeed and grow together, but the delay to establishments does not mean that Dust can't go ahead. We just won't be walking around in the same rooms any time soon. DUST players are supposed to be getting their directive straight from EVE players. Defending their planets and whatnot. WiS was supposed to bring you out of your ship so you could go abouts and do those things. Now EVE no longer is focused in that direction. Meaning that DUST no longer has the support it was intended to have nor the interactivity. They'll have to scrap the vision they have for DUST and develope it as its own standalone game. Not something that is to be tied in with EVE. That would be moot at this point. Therefore scrap DUST514 vision or release a game that wont have anyone playing it once they realize the other "half" of their game is missing.. The core DUST-EVE interaction is PI. EVE players hire Dust mercs to fight for control of the planets. That then leads on to the combat interaction of Dreadnoughts bombarding Dust battlefields or Dust mercs using 'skyfire batteries' to shoot down ships in space. The ability to walk around in a station is not vital to either of those game mechanics. It would simply look good. Incarna was not all about preparing for Dust514, Tyrannis was. Dust is the other half of the PI feature and that has been 'incomplete' for some time already.
OKAY! LoL Lets just look at all the DUST514 intro's and future of EVE videos on Youtube. Do you seriously think they did that vision wthout a fully implented WiS? The guy going to the window to check out the planet. WIS with plenty of capsuleers around him in the same room. Looks like some minor meeting area or establishment
The red-head checking him out as he's leaving and heading to his CQ/War-room, pretty sure there was some WiS there. That same woman then coming up behind him after his orbital strike on DUST players again she had to WiS to get there.
No, they might not have said outright that DUST514 needed WiS to work, but from what they portrayed through their videos and "Future of EVE" / EVE Forever. It clearly shows how CQ/WiS was to be fully implemented with DUST514..
Please people, take off the "dunce caps" and replace those with the tinfoil ones, at least then you'll be in tune to the cosmic signatures of CCP's cloak and dagger deception..
DUST514 is just that now.. DUST.. The game wont survive without the support of EVE players. Also considering how much people bitched about WiS/CQ in general I can't see those very same complainers wanting to interact with DUST players. That would be somewhat hypocritcal of them playing with "Space Barbies" that don't even OWN space ships or have anything to do with FiS.. |
Ugleb
Sarz'na Khumatari Ushra'Khan
28
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Posted - 2011.10.09 11:44:00 -
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Apollo-Moor wrote: OKAY! LoL Lets just look at all the DUST514 intro's and future of EVE videos on Youtube. Do you seriously think they did that vision wthout a fully implented WiS? The guy going to the window to check out the planet. WIS with plenty of capsuleers around him in the same room. Looks like some minor meeting area or establishment
The red-head checking him out as he's leaving and heading to his CQ/War-room, pretty sure there was some WiS there. That same woman then coming up behind him after his orbital strike on DUST players again she had to WiS to get there.
No, they might not have said outright that DUST514 needed WiS to work, but from what they portrayed through their videos and "Future of EVE" / EVE Forever. It clearly shows how CQ/WiS was to be fully implemented with DUST514..
Please people, take off the "dunce caps" and replace those with the tinfoil ones, at least then you'll be in tune to the cosmic signatures of CCP's cloak and dagger deception..
DUST514 is just that now.. DUST.. The game wont survive without the support of EVE players. Also considering how much people bitched about WiS/CQ in general I can't see those very same complainers wanting to interact with DUST players. That would be somewhat hypocritcal of them playing with "Space Barbies" that don't even OWN space ships or have anything to do with FiS..
Do you seriously think marketing videos represent the current state of game development? Take a look at this trailer for Dominion November 2009. That flashy 'UI' stuff is representative of the kind of thing CCP intend to develop for EVE in the future (they have said so). It does not exist yet and is not a 'fully implemented' feature, even if it was put into the video.
The EVE Forever video is a 'future vision' show piece, not representative of the current game(s). Do CCP have Incarna running internally? I'd hope so, they've been working on it since 2006. Is it 'fully implemented'? Obviously not as its going to release a full year late judging by CCP's current release plans. It was made to look cool, not show off game mechanics.
But my point is more simple than all that. In order for Dust to Interact with EVE we will not need full body avatars to stand in the same virtual room as a console player to tell them what to go shoot. That functionality can be delivered through a more traditional UI or if it must be in a station then via the CQ's. The games are supposed to interact between planet and orbiting space ship. They can get around not having players of both games standing in the same bar. http://uglebsjournal.wordpress.com/ |
Carcosa Hali
True Slave Foundations Shaktipat Revelators
4
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Posted - 2011.10.09 13:05:00 -
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Dust players and Eve players were never meant to share the same room... At least not initially. The link between Eve and Dust was supposed to be chat rooms, forums, market, probably Eve Voice at some point. But no... they never planned for Dust bunnies to be able to come to our WIS establishments...
Therefore the focus away from establishments will have exactly zero effect on Dust.
I know you guys are really hard up to yell "I told you so!!!!" and all, but you're going to have to try a little harder with your DUSTFAIL ************ fantasies.... |
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Apollo-Moor
xHELLonEARTHx Rookie Empire
27
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Posted - 2011.10.09 15:44:00 -
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Carcosa Hali wrote: Dust players and Eve players were never meant to share the same room... At least not initially. The link between Eve and Dust was supposed to be chat rooms, forums, market, probably Eve Voice at some point. But no... they never planned for Dust bunnies to be able to come to our WIS establishments...
Therefore the focus away from establishments will have exactly zero effect on Dust.
I know you guys are really hard up to yell "I told you so!!!!" and all, but you're going to have to try a little harder with your DUSTFAIL ************ fantasies....
Don't mistake what I'm saying here. I'm not saying that DUST and EVE were to be implemented into each other or that they were meant to be in the SAME room. They are both seperate games that are intertwined through the DUST players protecting EVE players planets. YES.
What I am saying is that in EVE itself, WiS was portrayed as being implemented and from what I read up in general was a very important part of DUST514's interaction. I just don't see people especially the Anti-Ambulataries actually taking the time to give those DUST players any type of real orders.
WiS would have inclined them to do so more, simply by being able to interact with the other capsuleers in EVE. YES I know it's not absolutely required that WiS be implemented, BUT CCP clearly gave the impression that it was a critical part of their current development for EVE and DUST interaction.
There comes a point where you have to stop giving CCP the benefit of the doubt, cause they're just going to keep pulling the wool over our eyes while taking the "Battle-axe of forgettness" to the back of our knecks. Hoping to cut off any real knowledge of the bullshit they are trying to feed us.
As a primary console gamer I can tell you right now. DUST will not survive without the support from EVE players. There are just too many other solid shooters doing different things that are better implemented than what DUST will be without the support.
I never at one point got the impression that DUST would not be heavily dependent on what EVE players are doing. They gave that from jump by starting with EVE game before even showing you what DUST was. The intro movie starts in the setting of EVE and then goes to the setting of DUST.
Obviously portraying their interfacing and DUST dependecy on EVE players to give them objectives. Again I'm not saying that EVE and DUST players were ever meant to directly interact with each others in stations, but infact. I thought there was mention of a possible common area for both parties to be able to meet and interact. Again might be mistaken, but probably not.
So I stand corrected I guess.. DUST will not FAIL.. DUST has FAILED. Before it even got the chance to spread its little wings, the EVE eggshell that was protecting it has cracked and crumbled. I was a supporter and really excited with what they were trying to do, but sometimes you gotta be real with yourself and realize when someone such as CCP might not be being completely honest with you.
EVE is real.. and CCP are some real liers.. |
Lors Dornick
Kallisti Industries
8
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Posted - 2011.10.09 17:44:00 -
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Apollo-Moor wrote:
Obviously portraying their interfacing and DUST dependecy on EVE players to give them objectives. Again I'm not saying that EVE and DUST players were ever meant to directly interact with each others in stations, but infact. I thought there was mention of a possible common area for both parties to be able to meet and interact. Again might be mistaken, but probably not.
And what in the possible common area is depending on WiS?
A common area of interaction does not automatically mean a physical room.
It does need an interface where we can check our needs and look for someone that can provide that service.
Then add the ability to pull up a chat, possibly with audio, possibly with video and suitable tools to handle the contract.
There is nothing on the EvE side of this interaction that needs WiS, except possibly a wee bit that we already have which is enough to handle a video conferance with a Dust commander.
Actually, the big hairy issue that is far more important for both games is the question of motivation.
"Why would capsuleers part with lovely isk (and time) to interact with Dusties?"
Fighting over installations, and the resulting commodities or fuel, could possibly be that motivation. But there's many questions that need to be dealt with before we know if it'll work.
But really, WiS doesn't have any connection with Dust.
If that redhead in the end of the Future View has any objections to my actions I could just as well get a wardec and a couple of shiny lazors blowing my ships to bits.
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Apollo-Moor
xHELLonEARTHx Rookie Empire
28
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Posted - 2011.10.10 01:21:00 -
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Lors Dornick wrote:Apollo-Moor wrote:
Obviously portraying their interfacing and DUST dependecy on EVE players to give them objectives. Again I'm not saying that EVE and DUST players were ever meant to directly interact with each others in stations, but infact. I thought there was mention of a possible common area for both parties to be able to meet and interact. Again might be mistaken, but probably not.
And what in the possible common area is depending on WiS? A common area of interaction does not automatically mean a physical room. It does need an interface where we can check our needs and look for someone that can provide that service. Then add the ability to pull up a chat, possibly with audio, possibly with video and suitable tools to handle the contract. There is nothing on the EvE side of this interaction that needs WiS, except possibly a wee bit that we already have which is enough to handle a video conferance with a Dust commander. Actually, the big hairy issue that is far more important for both games is the question of motivation. "Why would capsuleers part with lovely isk (and time) to interact with Dusties?" Fighting over installations, and the resulting commodities or fuel, could possibly be that motivation. But there's many questions that need to be dealt with before we know if it'll work. But really, WiS doesn't have any connection with Dust. If that redhead in the end of the Future View has any objections to my actions I could just as well get a wardec and a couple of shiny lazors blowing my ships to bits.
Moar zealotry. It was clearly infered that WiS would be a part of EVE as much as EVE was to be apart of DUST. You just stated yourself how their is little motavation for Capsuleers to interact with DUST players. Now there's even less of that motivation.
CCP has come to tell you they lied, so you know now to not believe them when they tell you they had no serious intentions for WiS and DUST. Every Future of EVE video regarding DUST went back to players WiS and Incarna itself.
They've scrapped it all, so now they need to scrap DUST. Cause I promise if I see that game release (Which it wont not on time of Summer 2012) I will not be purchasing cause I will know that WiS is not in EVE and that players will not be concerned with my earthbound game DUST.
Plain and simply put the two (Althought not written on some CCP Stone-tabblet/DEV Blog which would turn to DUST cause it has no valitity) are INDIRECTLY connected.
Much like how when we die we return to the earth and are bodies decompose and become part of the earth. Earth converts our energy into plantlife which we inturn eat on our dinner tables.
EVE WiS goes put a plan of destruction for his DUST mercs from his War Room that he walked in station to. Blazay blah blazay blah.. You get what I'm saying.. |
Mocam
EVE University Ivy League
24
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Posted - 2011.10.10 03:57:00 -
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Zagdul wrote:Holy **** the tinfoil hat in this thread is strong.
lol - yeah.
DUST 514 isn't out, it has been discussed with respect to "we'd like..." by CCP, yet it is being debated on how it should and shouldn't interact with EVE as if it were out and established.
Probably about a year out on its delivery. CCP has dedicated teams on it. The only thing with EVE is it's getting focus for spaceships right now but a year is quite a while and I'm sure they will be able to extend the interfacing a bit more. As such, it shouldn't be too far off their goals within the first 6 months from the release of DUST.
As such - it's all wait and see on this but it is a fun topic for the tinfoil hats to go at. |
Ugleb
Sarz'na Khumatari Ushra'Khan
32
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Posted - 2011.10.10 16:32:00 -
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Apollo-Moor wrote:Moar zealotry. It was clearly infered that WiS would be a part of EVE as much as EVE was to be apart of DUST. You just stated yourself how their is little motavation for Capsuleers to interact with DUST players. Now there's even less of that motivation.
CCP has come to tell you they lied, so you know now to not believe them when they tell you they had no serious intentions for WiS and DUST. Every Future of EVE video regarding DUST went back to players WiS and Incarna itself.
They've scrapped it all, so now they need to scrap DUST. Cause I promise if I see that game release (Which it wont not on time of Summer 2012) I will not be purchasing cause I will know that WiS is not in EVE and that players will not be concerned with my earthbound game DUST.
Plain and simply put the two (Althought not written on some CCP Stone-tabblet/DEV Blog which would turn to DUST cause it has no valitity) are INDIRECTLY connected.
Much like how when we die we return to the earth and are bodies decompose and become part of the earth. Earth converts our energy into plantlife which we inturn eat on our dinner tables.
EVE WiS goes put a plan of destruction for his DUST mercs from his War Room that he walked in station to. Blazay blah blazay blah.. You get what I'm saying..
Wow. Are you massively trolling or just massively paranoid?
WiS has not been scrapped. It has been delayed. There's a huge difference. And CCP did not 'admit to lying', Hilmar admitted to being wrong. There's also a difference.
Dust is due out sometime next summer, so about a year away. Personally I think we will see establishments coming out around then too.
I'm really not sure why you think that WiS is so crucial to Dust. Or that people who want to do the WiS thing are the people who will be interacting with Dust players. Dust has two areas of interaction with EVE.
1) PI. People who run PI will be either hiring Dust mercs or attacked by them in competition over PI resources.
2) PVP. Capital ships being blown up by planetary defences activated by Dust players, or Dust players getting shelled by orbital bombardment.
Both of these things involve flying in space, not walking around in bars.
Now at fanfest back in march I was talking to a CCP employee in the early hours one night and they said that they think it may well be possible someday for EVE and Dust players to meet together in a station/wherever. But it was not going to be that way at launch. And tbh, last I heard Dust was being built on the unreal engine, Incarna isn't. They might have switched at some point in development but they still have a way to go in building that level of interaction. Like launching Incarna on EVE in the first place.
And finally, CCP have stated a number of times that they are building Dust so that it could survive without the EVE link. If EVE players are not handing out enough work for Dust players then there needs to be some other kind of game mode for them to play instead. If it is a success then over time EVE and Dust will become more and more interwoven and ultimately be part of one mindblowing awesome whole. But if it or EVE tanks then CCP realise that they can't afford to lose both games in the process. http://uglebsjournal.wordpress.com/ |
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