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lag kills
The Generic Pirate Corporation Fusion.
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Posted - 2012.12.20 06:25:00 -
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just look at screen shots of eve from before trinity, when i first started playing. this game has come a looooooong way in the graphics department. |
Thomas Gore
State Protectorate Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.12.20 09:19:00 -
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lag kills wrote:just look at screen shots of eve from before trinity, when i first started playing. this game has come a looooooong way in the graphics department.
So has every other game in the universe. Standards have been raised a lot and EVE is still lagging behind.
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Ivy Romanova
All Your Machariel Belong to Ham Industrial Technonauts
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Posted - 2012.12.20 11:00:00 -
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lag kills wrote:just look at screen shots of eve from before trinity, when i first started playing. this game has come a looooooong way in the graphics department.
I always hated that arguement. This is not a race against yourself. You are racing against EVERYONE in the market .
EVE is still running on tech from 2006. The industry standard has moved a LONG way from then. It is forbidden to kill. Therefore all murderers are punished unless they kill in large numbers and to the sound of trumpets.
Voltaire |
Ivy Romanova
All Your Machariel Belong to Ham Industrial Technonauts
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Posted - 2012.12.21 14:44:00 -
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Ager Agemo wrote:Eve texture resolution is way too low: Just zoom in on any ship specially those larger than a frigate, and you will notice there is something completely wrong with the texture resolution, specially noticeable on capital ships) better shaders alone will not improve this. Ships need to be made of multiple textures with LOD instead of this large single texture files for a single model. this just kills detail. The Backgrounds and nebulas albeit enhanced, are completely lackluster in awe, it would be nice to see megaliths and huge strange spatial phenomena that is light years away but covers half the sky something like: http://www.deviantart.com/download/143017536/space_skybox_by_Orindoomhammer.jpghttp://www.3drt.com/3dm/space-bg/sk-20.jpghttp://www.3drt.com/3dm/space-bg/sk-20.jpgThe Scaling sense, something on the way ships scale when viewed from the camera at certain distances completely kills the sense of scale, battleships look small, and frigates look huge, HOWEVER! when you are on a small ship and you zoom in completely very close to a large ship, the scales look properly, this indicates there is a problem with the scaling factor related with camera distance. Those dammed overview icons that look like huge red crosses, are so big you cannot see your target model, instead seeing only a red cross, they need to be made hollow (without fill) similar to those of homeworld 1 maybe. The speed sense, not a balance issue but more how the client interprets ship movement, even if useless ships should do barrel rolls small jiggling and zigzags for small ships. And large ships need to stop rotating in half a second when you are in a complete stand still, they could make it such that the client uses the time to 70% speed to calculate rotation time as to avoid ships warping side ways, but allowing for a more natural movement. Explosions and damage: Problem is, first, you see the ship dissapear and then the explosion that looks like a firecracker, this needs to be fixed seriously. for fast ships after they explode you should see some fireballs that keep going. The light effect is awesome, but is way short lived, large ships as has been said before need to take their sweet time exploding and should show wear from damage. This can be done all client side, you just tell the client to add small decals and effects on damaged ships based on the % of armor remaining Also even tho is not realist at all large ships could have some shockwaves as they explode, similar to how stations do it currently. And last, weapon impact effects are really lacking. now all of this its client side and can be turned off without much hassle, so it can be implemented without a very high impact on systems and it will NOT affect the server. A bit content wise solar systems overall feel a bit empty, there should be a VERY large ammount of Derelic sites all around for players to warp at, kill rats, kill each other and if they get very lucky maybe find some rare module ammo or BPC, this sites should be HUGE (grids of at least 1 thousand kilometers) and should be mini warp disabled as to force players to fly aroudn them exploring and looking for stuff) basically asteroid belts without asteroids but with plethora of nice decorations and low bounty or no bounty at al wrecks: generic wrecks are bad thats it.
The skybox pics you posted is pretty ghetto :P It is forbidden to kill. Therefore all murderers are punished unless they kill in large numbers and to the sound of trumpets.
Voltaire |
Ager Agemo
Saturn Reaper
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Posted - 2012.12.21 16:28:00 -
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f+¦rums ****** up uber long post... please delete.. |
Ivy Romanova
All Your Machariel Belong to Ham Industrial Technonauts
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Posted - 2012.12.22 09:11:00 -
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well the size of proportion is pretty bad in EVE to start with. Then again , i think there is a reason.
If we make planets and size to proportion , there is one 2 ways to keep the texture quality. Turn the dimension into the size of a small city. Or keep us a long way from them.
But ,yes . You do have a point. I just hope the skybox won't be as ........ overly dramatic and cheesy as the ones you posted. It is forbidden to kill. Therefore all murderers are punished unless they kill in large numbers and to the sound of trumpets.
Voltaire |
Ivy Romanova
All Your Machariel Belong to Ham Industrial Technonauts
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Posted - 2012.12.22 15:58:00 -
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Thomas Gore wrote:lag kills wrote:just look at screen shots of eve from before trinity, when i first started playing. this game has come a looooooong way in the graphics department. So has every other game in the universe. Standards have been raised a lot and EVE is still lagging behind.
Well, lets narrow that down to the MMO front. MMO wise with the same intellectual and community depth. EVE remains unchallenged. However, on other games who've set a compromise between graphics and gamplay . Such as World of Tanks and Planetside 2 and upcoming Star Citizen. If we don't step up our game ,we could be losing casual players by the thousands, who in this game where only the trulyl dedicated can play without pay. could means serious losses to CCP.
Thats my theory anyway. It is forbidden to kill. Therefore all murderers are punished unless they kill in large numbers and to the sound of trumpets.
Voltaire |
Ivy Romanova
All Your Machariel Belong to Ham Industrial Technonauts
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Posted - 2012.12.24 05:59:00 -
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Mara Rinn wrote:Ivy Romanova wrote:I see a lot of at least X50 GTS series cards and the same goes for ATI.
Mobile cards constitute less than 5% of the entire survey. Onboard display is simply silly and is only around 5.52% of the population.
With the proportion of mid-range display cards continuing to rise as seen from the trend done from July to November.
But how closely does the population of Steam subscribers match the population of EVE subscribers? I play EVE Online, but none of my systems are represented in that Steam survey (2 Apple computers for starters).
thats why CCP should release a Computer Hardware Survey results like Steam did . Information is POWERA! It is forbidden to kill. Therefore all murderers are punished unless they kill in large numbers and to the sound of trumpets.
Voltaire |
Ivy Romanova
All Your Machariel Belong to Ham Industrial Technonauts
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Posted - 2012.12.30 03:37:00 -
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ChromeStriker wrote:The best thing you can do for EvE graphics is get a second Screen. You can move alllllll the stuff thats "needed" to one side and have have a clear unadulterated view of space on the other.
Also after getting a new gaming rig recently, i turned all the graphics all the way up, with eve on one screen and swapping a number of other MMO's on the other and the comparison is laughable!! Eve Kicks ASS
but then you'll lose most of the visual information when you're looking at the side screens :P It is forbidden to kill. Therefore all murderers are punished unless they kill in large numbers and to the sound of trumpets.
Voltaire |
00467988004
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.12.30 08:11:00 -
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Eve's graphics get better with each expansion. That being said, games on my phone/tablet are starting to look better than Eve.
The stations need an overhaul, the jump gates, asteroids. At the rate they are making changes it will be a few years. Personally they should get their asses off of Dust and put more people on Eve ( the game I'm paying multiple subscriptions on.) |
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Ivy Romanova
All Your Machariel Belong to Ham Industrial Technonauts
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Posted - 2012.12.30 10:27:00 -
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00467988004 wrote:Eve's graphics get better with each expansion. That being said, games on my phone/tablet are starting to look better than Eve.
The stations need an overhaul, the jump gates, asteroids. At the rate they are making changes it will be a few years. Personally they should get their asses off of Dust and put more people on Eve ( the game I'm paying multiple subscriptions on.)
I have no idea why CCP is doing it . Maybe the same way games uses PhysX . Devs get paid using it by the giants. CCP gets paid by PS3 for publishing it , kind of baseless and ******** statement ,but I seriously have no idea why is it on PS3. At least make it on PC :P It is forbidden to kill. Therefore all murderers are punished unless they kill in large numbers and to the sound of trumpets.
Voltaire |
Cannibal Kane
Umkhonto We Sizwe
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Posted - 2012.12.30 10:36:00 -
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People here still seem to be ignoring the fact that they are trying to compare EVE to normal NONE MMO Game.
This is an MMO... and it is the best looking MMO on the market.
There is a reason why it cannot appear to look like nearly as good as the X-Universe games. It has been pointed out multiple times in thread but people seem to ignore it.
This is not a Think Tank... this a blatant.. I WANT thread. I'm not a Pirate, I'm a Terrorist.
The Crazy Space Poor South African.
*Hair done by LGÇÖOr+¬al, because I'm worth it. |
Esan Vartesa
Samarkand Financial
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Posted - 2012.12.30 10:53:00 -
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Read through about half of this thread, and saw some mentions of Star Citizen.
Listen, I'm a huge Wing Commander series fan, but you cannot compare it to Eve. Star Citizen's graphics WILL look better than Eve, but that's because Star Citizen isn't an MMO. It's been revealed that all combat in Star Citizen is going to be instanced, with 24 to 36 ships TOTAL in any one instance.
Anyone here in favour of limiting Eve combat to 36 ships in any one system? Cause that's what it would take to allow the kind of graphics the OP is whining for. |
Solstice Project
Carebear Cadaver Productions
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Posted - 2012.12.30 11:04:00 -
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Can't cure superficial people. Inappropriate signature removed. Spitfire |
Solstice Project
Carebear Cadaver Productions
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Posted - 2012.12.30 11:06:00 -
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Ivy Romanova wrote:Although you'll be reducing the load on the server running classic, the premium server on the otherhand...... And again i must wonder why people are allowed to voice opinions that keep displaying that they have no clue of what the **** they are talking about. Inappropriate signature removed. Spitfire |
Grimpak
Midnight Elites Echelon Rising
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Posted - 2012.12.30 12:09:00 -
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Ivy Romanova wrote:CCP gets paid by PS3 for publishing it , kind of baseless and ******** statement ,but I seriously have no idea why is it on PS3. At least make it on PC :P
well, it's not on Xbox because microsoft didn't like the game running in Xbox connecting to EVE servers, together with the multi-platform thing, plus all the waiting period for patches and stuff. Sony is a bit more flexible on that.
as far as PC goes, they don't want to release it for pc yet, because of "cannibalization".
honestly I think they should keep the game PS3 for 6 months to see how it handles first. [img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img]
[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right |
Ivy Romanova
All Your Machariel Belong to Ham Industrial Technonauts
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Posted - 2012.12.30 12:42:00 -
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Solstice Project wrote:Ivy Romanova wrote:Although you'll be reducing the load on the server running classic, the premium server on the otherhand...... And again i must wonder why people are allowed to voice opinions that keep displaying that they have no clue of what the **** they are talking about.
you simply can't run separate clients with different architecture for the same server under the same game :P
What you can do is add an option which allows toggling of graphical details and dx , but seems that option gets ignored by most of those who replies It is forbidden to kill. Therefore all murderers are punished unless they kill in large numbers and to the sound of trumpets.
Voltaire |
Ivy Romanova
All Your Machariel Belong to Ham Industrial Technonauts
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Posted - 2013.01.07 14:02:00 -
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Cannibal Kane wrote:People here still seem to be ignoring the fact that they are trying to compare EVE to normal NONE MMO Game.
This is an MMO... and it is the best looking MMO on the market.
There is a reason why it cannot appear to look like nearly as good as the X-Universe games. It has been pointed out multiple times in thread but people seem to ignore it.
This is not a Think Tank... this a blatant.. I WANT thread.
IT is a good looking game , but it can be better .
A sex symbol becomes a thing. I just hate to be a thing. -Marilyn Monroe
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Goran Konjich
Shiva Furnace
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Posted - 2013.01.07 14:09:00 -
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I just want to fly my spaceship with left mouse pressed down and with left hand hitting buttons and shortcuts. Sh1va Furnace is recruiting. Small gang PVP in wormholes and lowsec. |
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.01.07 14:41:00 -
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Esan Vartesa wrote:Read through about half of this thread, and saw some mentions of Star Citizen.
Listen, I'm a huge Wing Commander series fan, but you cannot compare it to Eve. Star Citizen's graphics WILL look better than Eve, but that's because Star Citizen isn't an MMO. It's been revealed that all combat in Star Citizen is going to be instanced, with 24 to 36 ships TOTAL in any one instance.
Anyone here in favour of limiting Eve combat to 36 ships in any one system? Cause that's what it would take to allow the kind of graphics the OP is whining for.
I told someone this in the forums here about three weeks ago, about how the two can't be compared other than they are both space games. I basically got told I was wrong (with less kind words), and unfortunately the article I'd read on SC was in a magazine, not on the internet, so I couldn't link it to demonstrate what I was talking about, so I just bailed. Why don't people get this? Star Citizen is going to be nothing like EVE. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |
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Red Teufel
Blackened Skies
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Posted - 2013.01.07 14:44:00 -
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Dust will be a major contribution to EvEs survival in the future. however WIS was EvEs path to tap into that social network bubble. failed hard because they never finnished, never commited enough recources to deliver it properly.
I would continue the rebalancing and pos changes. but you might have to finnish WIS. you're going to regret not finnishing WIS especialy when start citizen comes out. |
Ivy Romanova
All Your Machariel Belong to Ham Industrial Technonauts
723
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Posted - 2013.01.07 15:15:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:Esan Vartesa wrote:Read through about half of this thread, and saw some mentions of Star Citizen.
Listen, I'm a huge Wing Commander series fan, but you cannot compare it to Eve. Star Citizen's graphics WILL look better than Eve, but that's because Star Citizen isn't an MMO. It's been revealed that all combat in Star Citizen is going to be instanced, with 24 to 36 ships TOTAL in any one instance.
Anyone here in favour of limiting Eve combat to 36 ships in any one system? Cause that's what it would take to allow the kind of graphics the OP is whining for. I told someone this in the forums here about three weeks ago, about how the two can't be compared other than they are both space games. I basically got told I was wrong (with less kind words), and unfortunately the article I'd read on SC was in a magazine, not on the internet, so I couldn't link it to demonstrate what I was talking about, so I just bailed. Why don't people get this? Star Citizen is going to be nothing like EVE.
no one is comparing Star Citizen to EvE. WE are just using it as a comparison to what is graphically possible today and then we compare it back to the graphics of EvE to prove EvE still has a lot of work to do if it were to compete with other games on the market today. As much as the gameplay element attracts players . For the new generation ,we'll need to keep the eye candies up if EvE were to survive another decade A sex symbol becomes a thing. I just hate to be a thing. -Marilyn Monroe
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Bloodpetal
Sal's Waste Management and Pod Disposal The Mockers AO
1164
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Posted - 2013.01.07 15:58:00 -
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Ivy Romanova wrote:well the size of proportion is pretty bad in EVE to start with. Then again , i think there is a reason. If we make planets and size to proportion , there is one 2 ways to keep the texture quality. Turn the dimension into the size of a small city. Or keep us a long way from them. But ,yes . You do have a point. I just hope the skybox won't be as ........ overly dramatic and cheesy as the ones you posted.
This is what the earth looks like from the Shuttle
http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/media/inline/blog/Image/Discovery_sts-114_Return_to_flight_safety_test.jpg
The ISS sits at about 100 to 200 miles above the system.
If you have ever gone 300km CLOSE to an EVE planet, it looks about the same size as the image above. Jita 4-4 sits a VERY cozy distance from a MOON that isn't that large at all in the first place. The artists image you have linked is called a DRAMATIZATION. When we dramatize an image certain features are enhanced to make it more starkly impressive than it really is.
EVE Proportions for Planets and Moons are pretty accurate. What you are missing is the concept of how SMALL things REALLY ARE in comparison to the universe. Could things be better positioned in EVE to have more dramatic effect? Such as stations, etc? Sure. The other thing is EVE stations are MASSIVE and would probably not look that great if they were really close to a planet to create the dramatic effect you are looking for in the artists rendering.
Please view this website to appreciate such things : http://primaxstudio.com/stuff/scale_of_universe/ Where I am. |
Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.01.07 16:07:00 -
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Nice reading Ivy, thx.
With Eve when I account the core game is old for 10 years, patched, re patched and I think I can safely say over patched, welp, I can't say it's ok but it's not bad overall neither. "Graphics in Eve are beautiful" - well I can not agree with this, when I can't run Eve properly with a single account log with I5-750 OC/12GB DDR3-1600, when I have to set my graphics to minimum with a 460GTX 2GB OC I can safely say it really looks bad and awful experience when there's more than a couple ships on grid.
The game should be playable with Xp versions but offer the best of it in more powerful machines, actually it's the other way around, at least for many of us, this only makes the gaming experience disappointing when I have the feeling I'm trying to play Amiga games on my rig, and this single point sucks hard.
Graphic improvements are needed? -absolutely, make it playable with DX9 and top with DX11 not the other way around, this sucks, it's not moving forward fast enough.
Performance: I can open and perfectly work without lag/whatsoever while watching high res films, music, use accountability software +excell/mails and keep open/play very recent FPS games with settings on top. But then I log in to Eve and can't play a single Eve account decently on top of meh graphics (without lag/freeze/crash). This sucks ! FIX IT NAO !!
Edit: how much do I care about a new toy/fake mod whatsoever if I can't play decently? |
Lord Leftfield
The Society Calyxes
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Posted - 2013.01.07 16:18:00 -
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Personally i think great gameplay thrumps graphics everytime. I'd rather ccp gave us lots and lots of gameplay and did'nt care to much about graphics. Personally I'd like to see more details and dynamic gameplay features put into pos, than it looks shiny, if you know what I mean. Just look at what happend to the gaming community when minecraft hit. Can't exactly say that minecraft is a graphic stunning game now can we.. |
Ivy Romanova
All Your Machariel Belong to Ham Industrial Technonauts
725
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Posted - 2013.01.07 16:27:00 -
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Lord Leftfield wrote:Personally i think great gameplay thrumps graphics everytime. I'd rather ccp gave us lots and lots of gameplay and did'nt care to much about graphics. Personally I'd like to see more details and dynamic gameplay features put into pos, than it looks shiny, if you know what I mean. Just look at what happend to the gaming community when minecraft hit. Can't exactly say that minecraft is a graphic stunning game now can we..
Well , Minecraft is a TRUE sandbox where ALMOST EVERYTHING is player orientated. Its a creation game ,but this is at its core a game of destruction and for pathlogical destroyers such as us. Shiny stuff is always good. Of course we need to enrich the gameplay , and indeed I did post a few ideas on GD ,but the ISD doesn't like gameplay so he moved it to the feature and ideas graveyard A sex symbol becomes a thing. I just hate to be a thing. -Marilyn Monroe
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Lord Leftfield
The Society Calyxes
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Posted - 2013.01.07 16:30:00 -
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thats because they are trolling you Ivy :P It's GD after all .. |
marVLs
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Posted - 2013.01.07 16:31:00 -
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The most important things in Eve graphic update are for me:
- better scaling (move planets closer to stations and make them look awesome, better ship size feel - now they fell like toys...) - better explosions, something like have been shown here |
Slap Chop
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.01.07 16:52:00 -
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Ivy Romanova wrote:I am running on a puny 250GTS with 1 GB ram and some 6 year old wares . Its still running on high with everything maxed with 60 fps to spare.
Stop bullshitting.
I'm on an i7 box with a pair of GTX 570's, everything maxed just as you claim. After Retribution it began dropping below 60fps when zoomed in and engaging a target. |
Ivy Romanova
All Your Machariel Belong to Ham Industrial Technonauts
726
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Posted - 2013.01.07 17:03:00 -
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Slap Chop wrote:Ivy Romanova wrote:I am running on a puny 250GTS with 1 GB ram and some 6 year old wares . Its still running on high with everything maxed with 60 fps to spare.
Stop bullshitting. I'm on an i7 box with a pair of GTX 570's, everything maxed just as you claim. After Retribution it began dropping below 60fps when zoomed in and engaging a target.
ain't bullshiting , you just need to optimize your PC with Tune Up or some other utilities .
BTW, i recently upgrade to a i5 3570k and GTX660ti combo with 8 GB of ram . I can now fly into Gas clouds
A sex symbol becomes a thing. I just hate to be a thing. -Marilyn Monroe
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