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Brego Taba
Newbs R Us
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Posted - 2012.12.12 15:52:00 -
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I want to preface this by saying that I appreciate the learning/fighting curve in Eve. I do not want to be a highsec player. Im trying hard to get out and explore.
That being said, Its getting a bit frustrating.
Im a returning player from 2004. I have about 3.4 million SP, mostly basics, ships, gunnery and missiles. Im skilling up for BS's now but ultimately want to be covops pilot.
Right now, Im trying to find something to do that doesnt get me killed in 5 minutes.
Im bored in L3 missions. They are AFK easy. I have the faction to do 4s, and I can fly a Caldari BS, but I cant T2 some of my midslots, and I am low drone skilled so do not want to solo them for fear of losing BS's.
I really want to push the envelope a bit and find some battles that are challenging, so I go into lowsec, flying frigs, dessies or BCs looking to rat. Inevitably, even carefully watching local, I am being caught mid rat fight by pvprs, webbed scrammed and killed. Thoroughly locked down and feeling stupid.
I am in a Corp but, at the most, there are only 5 people at a time on, and 3 of those are mining. Theres not a lot of help there, altho the leadership would help if they could.
What function do I have at this point? I am not giving up, but it really feels kind of pointless at this time to try and do anything more than l3 mission and thats boring me to tears.
Suggestions?
This is not a whine, I respect the game and how its designed, I just want a larger part of it. |
Fractal Muse
Dead's Prostitutes Test Friends Please Ignore
75
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Posted - 2012.12.12 16:03:00 -
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Brego Taba wrote: Suggestions?
This is not a whine, I respect the game and how its designed, I just want a larger part of it.
It is time for you to find a new corp that is in line with what you are trying to do.
You may find a lot of fun to be had in factional warfare.
You may find your experience will improve in a 0.0 corp.
You might want to find your way into a wormhole corp.
Any of these three options will provide you with a brand new game experience and a lot of challenge for your current skill level.
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Jakeshia Agittain
pound puppy
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Posted - 2012.12.12 16:04:00 -
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Ratting in lowsec is always dangerous for everyone. Even the people that live there may have people from high sec or even nul come through and catch them. Though that's a bit more rare these days. It sounds like you're going to lowsec systems that route into nulsec from high or have lots of people. You want to use the map and any other data you can find to locate back end of nowhere lowsec. Places where you might a few people tops in a day. They do exist before you say it doesn't happen. |
Jakeshia Agittain
pound puppy
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Posted - 2012.12.12 16:07:00 -
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Fractal Muse wrote:Brego Taba wrote: Suggestions?
This is not a whine, I respect the game and how its designed, I just want a larger part of it.
It is time for you to find a new corp that is in line with what you are trying to do. You may find a lot of fun to be had in factional warfare. You may find your experience will improve in a 0.0 corp. You might want to find your way into a wormhole corp. Any of these three options will provide you with a brand new game experience and a lot of challenge for your current skill level.
Good advice also. FW can help train for pvp. A corp that suits you is needed. WHs are also very fun. |
Ovv Topik
Proposition Thirteen The Third Rail
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Posted - 2012.12.12 16:45:00 -
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Not much advice sorry mate, cos I'm at exactly the same level. But +1 for attitude. You know about RvB? Everyone speaks highly of them as the place to learn PVP. ti'n siarad Cymraeg? |
Dracones
Tarsis Inc
1
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Posted - 2012.12.12 17:23:00 -
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Brego Taba wrote: Suggestions?
Mine is to take a step back, ask yourself what you really want to do in this game and then go full on out towards that. If L4 missions and big complexes are your "what I want to do" then hook up with a corp that's running that non-stop.
But basically, sample all the wares first. Have you hit up a wormhole yet? Scanned down radar sites? Run through an incursion? Sampled faction warfare?
Just nail down what vibes for you and jump in head first with a corp that's doing the same thing and will support you as you skill up and add to the team. |
Berendas
Sniggwaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
383
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Posted - 2012.12.12 17:30:00 -
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Never underestimate the positive influence a good corp can have on your game. I would advise finding a more active corp that is better aligned with your goals. If PVP is where your sights are set, try talking to the people who you find yourself fighting. The low sec pirate corps I've been in pretty often recruit from frequent opponents, that's how I came to join two of my previous corps. |
Gizznitt Malikite
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
804
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Posted - 2012.12.12 18:32:00 -
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As mentioned before, finding a good corp, that provides you with companionship will dramatically improve the EvE experience.... no matter what you are doing....
To find the right corp for you, decide what you want to explore....
1.) Different levels of wh's offer advanced PvE content with varying degrees of difficulty. 2.) Incursions are a good place to find advanced PvE content, although you might be low'ish skilled.. 3.) Go ahead and run those Level 4's anyway.... even if you don't have perfect skills. A lot of fun can be had when you are actually risking something.... 4.) Join a nullsec corp.... CVA or their pets/friends might be a good match for you...
Remember, losing ships in EvE is part of the experience... Especially if you move to lowsec or nullsec... In many ways, the more danger you are in the more fun you can have....
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Nerath Naaris
Pink Winged Unicorns for Peace Love and Anarchy
210
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Posted - 2012.12.12 18:56:00 -
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Armchair psychologist reporting in!
Shortly after returning, you got recruited by one of those "we-do-everything,-join-us"-corporations that actually do nothing and are really no different than if you had stayed in the NPC corp but you would feel guilty to leave them, correct?
Solution: As others have said, start looking for a GOOD new corp, though be warned, that sounds easier than done (in regards to "GOOD").
Still, you seem to enjoy the thrill of low-sec but just went off for an unfortunate start; don-¦t let that frustrate you. Next time slap some prototype cloak on a fast frigate and just roam around for fun, making bookmarks, checking out the environment and generally testing the waters, so to speak. Once you have gathered your intel and learned some stuff, come back in a cheap PvP Frig and see if you will enjoy getting popped once more... and make no mistake, you WILL get popped, repeatedly.
Till the day you will win your first fight! Then you will never look back.
And as for your skillpoints, sure they lack now, but it really doesn-¦t take long to get them to a point where you can stand up to the average player in a certain area (a racial frigate level V takes 8 or so days, a racial gun half of that, for example). Forum-unbanned since 2011.10.20. |
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
1164
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Posted - 2012.12.12 19:09:00 -
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Brego Taba wrote:Im bored in L3 missions. They are AFK easy. I have the faction to do 4s, and I can fly a Caldari BS, but I cant T2 some of my midslots, and I am low drone skilled so do not want to solo them for fear of losing BS's. You can do level 4 in a battlecruiser, though it can be slow going. Recommended way to learn what to expect though.
Brego Taba wrote:Suggestions? I think you might want to join faction wars. |
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Haedonism Bot
Revolutionary Front
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Posted - 2012.12.12 19:32:00 -
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Yep, my 10 second analysis tells me that the whole problem is that you are in the wrong corp. Ditch them and get a better one. I could tell you where to look, but it is forbidden. |
Brego Taba
Newbs R Us
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Posted - 2012.12.13 04:04:00 -
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I cannot tell you how much I appreciate your responses.
Ive been very hesitant to leave my corp because I tend to be very loyal and these are some great guys.
I especially appreciate not being flamed for my OP.
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Karas Otoha
Shadows of the 49th
0
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Posted - 2012.12.13 05:07:00 -
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I understand the loyalty factor I still keep in touch with my old corp members even alliance members, but the one thing you have to remember you pay for the account so you need to decide what you wanna do and how to do it.
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Disastro
Wrecking Shots Black Legion.
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Posted - 2012.12.13 05:10:00 -
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Brego Taba wrote:I want to preface this by saying that I appreciate the learning/fighting curve in Eve. I do not want to be a highsec player. Im trying hard to get out and explore.
That being said, Its getting a bit frustrating.
Im a returning player from 2004. I have about 3.4 million SP, mostly basics, ships, gunnery and missiles. Im skilling up for BS's now but ultimately want to be covops pilot.
Right now, Im trying to find something to do that doesnt get me killed in 5 minutes.
Im bored in L3 missions. They are AFK easy. I have the faction to do 4s, and I can fly a Caldari BS, but I cant T2 some of my midslots, and I am low drone skilled so do not want to solo them for fear of losing BS's.
I really want to push the envelope a bit and find some battles that are challenging, so I go into lowsec, flying frigs, dessies or BCs looking to rat. Inevitably, even carefully watching local, I am being caught mid rat fight by pvprs, webbed scrammed and killed. Thoroughly locked down and feeling stupid.
I am in a Corp but, at the most, there are only 5 people at a time on, and 3 of those are mining. Theres not a lot of help there, altho the leadership would help if they could.
What function do I have at this point? I am not giving up, but it really feels kind of pointless at this time to try and do anything more than l3 mission and thats boring me to tears.
Suggestions?
This is not a whine, I respect the game and how its designed, I just want a larger part of it.
You definitely should look for an active corp. Eve is a game that can be enjoyable to play solo but is much improved with interactions with other people. Being in comms with your corp mates will teach you tons about the game of eve as well as giving you options for new things to do in the game. PVP in eve tends to be a group event (although soloing is possible).
For my first couple of years playing this game I ran a high sec war decking corp (same corp we just moved to null sec later) and i did quite a bit of soloing against our war targets. I enjoyed that but the pvp in nullsec with friends was also alot of fun. In the end it all depends on how you intend to play the game. But even guys who solo still often enjoy being in comms with corp mates. After all, who can you brag to if you are in a corp with only you logged into it?
Look for corps recruiting on these forums and find one that seems to suit your interests. If PVE is what you are concerned about at the moment then find one recruiting for that. If you want to move to null sec then find one who is willing to take on new guys with little null sec experience. There are some out there. You just gotta look for them.
Also, i can understand wanting to stick with friends you know. Alot of corps out there would accept a package deal for all of you. That might be a good option to consider. |
NightCrawler 85
Phoibe Enterprises Project Wildfire
199
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Posted - 2012.12.13 05:56:00 -
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Brego Taba wrote:I am in a Corp but, at the most, there are only 5 people at a time on, and 3 of those are mining. Theres not a lot of help there, altho the leadership would help if they could.
Well not much advice i can give you exept what others have posted,but there is one thing few people seem to consider. Have you considered asking the leadership how you can help them? From the sounds of it there are to few members in the corp (atleast in your timezone),maybe they would like some help recruiting? Or maybe the reason those people are only mining is because they dont feel there is anything else to do. Try to arrange a operation ahead of time,give everyone plenty of notice. If its PVP just say something like "Hey lets go to low sec and get blown up a few times and have some fun!". Directors or CEO's can only do so much..and who knows,maybe you will find that if you start doing things like recruiting or random operations or drag people off to do whatever others will get the encuragment to do the same.
I wish you the best of luck,and i hope you can find a way around the current issues without having to leave the corp since you actually do enjoy their company.
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Capt Starfox
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.12.13 06:35:00 -
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Disastro wrote:You definitely should look for an active corp. Eve is a game that can be enjoyable to play solo but is much improved with interactions with other people. Being in comms with your corp mates will teach you tons about the game of eve as well as giving you options for new things to do in the game. PVP in eve tends to be a group event (although soloing is possible). This. I read most of the other posts and I agree, join a more active corp and a corp that is going down the same path you are. On my first char I felt the same way you do. I got stuck in a 4 person corp and felt like I had to stay because of loyalty. I was in that corp for about a year and finally left and when I did I realized I wished I had left sooner. Loyalty is great, but try not to give it to everyone, try to save it for a corp you really like and see yourself being apart of. FW is a great start into PvP, but joining a player-corp that is in FW is better than just joining the npc faction FW corp. |
Vilnius Zar
Ordo Ardish
312
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Posted - 2012.12.13 06:46:00 -
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Many/most corps are "lacking", just as there's many lazy/idiot/dumb folks around there's many corps like that. Finding the right corp with the right focus, activity and challenge can be difficult and time consuming but it's worth the effort. Don't sell yourself short, be at ease with demanding quality and activity from the corp you're about to join. Just because your char is low SP doesn't mean you'll have to accept low quality corps. Amat victoria curam. Excellence in everything. |
Galaxy Pig
Red Galaxy Persona Non Gratis
286
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Posted - 2012.12.13 07:09:00 -
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Join the Knights of the New Order, and help purge highsec of illegal mining while enjoying the camaraderie of such a fun group. |
Brego Taba
Sturmgrenadier Inc
1
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Posted - 2012.12.14 15:35:00 -
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Last night I said goodbye to my old Corp and joined a new, shiney, Nullsec corp.
Ive been on TS with these guys and they come across as knowledegable and adult. I am looking forward to making my way down there.
I've always secretly respected players that effortlessly make a decision to change guilds or corps in game, but Ive also been proud of my loyalty to a team.
Players will tell you that "its just a game, its your money. Play it like you want to play it." But Ive never agreed with that. Its real PEOPLE.
There's a human being on the other side of your screen and that makes this game real.
Anyway, thanks for the overwhelming advice, you were right, and I look forward to getting much more involved in Eve.
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Aptenodytes
Reckless Abandon
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Posted - 2012.12.14 16:06:00 -
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Yes it is real people. I've met people off EVE, made real friends, in fact met my ex wife on EVE. So I am in agreement with you that "it's just a game ditch them" is a bit harsh.
But as everyone has said, if these friends do not fit your play style and you do not enjoy playing with them, then it's time to move on. Just as in real life, if you do not share interests with your friends, then you need to get new ones. Keep in contact with the old bunch if you like, but if your needs are not being fulfilled then you're wasting your life. If they are real friends then they'll support your decision.
Good luck with the new bunch :)
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Haedonism Bot
Revolutionary Front
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Posted - 2012.12.14 20:31:00 -
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Looks like you joined one of the corps that lives in my home region. Looking forward to meeting you in space.
Good luck and welcome to Curse. Join the Revolutionary Front and liberate New Eden from it's stuff.
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Piugattuk
Lima beans Corp
119
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Posted - 2012.12.14 21:18:00 -
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Have you tried doing some cosmos missions sites? Go to otitoh or friggi in Caldari hi, theres fun there and doable in BC down. |
Brego Taba
Sturmgrenadier Inc
1
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Posted - 2012.12.14 21:36:00 -
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Haedonism Bot wrote:Looks like you joined one of the corps that lives in my home region. Looking forward to meeting you in space.
Good luck and welcome to Curse.
... This sounds ominous |
Haedonism Bot
Revolutionary Front
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Posted - 2012.12.14 22:28:00 -
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Brego Taba wrote:Haedonism Bot wrote:Looks like you joined one of the corps that lives in my home region. Looking forward to meeting you in space.
Good luck and welcome to Curse. ... This sounds ominous
Not too much. Actually you guys have us outnumbered and outgunned, so I shouldn't talk. We are always up for a fight though. Join the Revolutionary Front and liberate New Eden from it's stuff.
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Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
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Posted - 2012.12.16 02:36:00 -
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Brego Taba wrote:I want to preface this by saying that I appreciate the learning/fighting curve in Eve. I do not want to be a highsec player. Im trying hard to get out and explore.
I really want to push the envelope a bit
I am in a Corp but, at the most, there are only 5 people at a time on, and 3 of those are mining. Theres not a lot of help there, altho the leadership would help if they could.
Compromise. You want to do lowsec, they want to mine. Get a Procurer or three and invite them to come along for some lowsec mining runs. You can be their escort or something. You'll find the PvP you were looking for and be helping your company at the same time.
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Abdiel Kavash
Paladin Order Fidelas Constans
1027
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Posted - 2012.12.16 13:05:00 -
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Brego Taba wrote:I've always secretly respected players that effortlessly make a decision to change guilds or corps in game, but Ive also been proud of my loyalty to a team.
Players will tell you that "its just a game, its your money. Play it like you want to play it." But Ive never agreed with that. Its real PEOPLE.
There's a human being on the other side of your screen and that makes this game real.
As an ex-CEO and part-time recruiter I went through this with many people. You are right to have this attitude, and loyalty will get you very far in EVE. However always check that you are loyal to your corp's ideals and motivations, and not to just the corp's name and ticker.
If you are not enjoying your corp's activities, both you and the corp will suffer in the long term. You will probably not be so interested in whatever your corp organizes, and as such contribute only very little to it. And vice versa, the corp has little to offer to you. In time you would just get bored of the game and leave, and neither you nor your corp would gain anything from it.
Joining a corporation of people with the same goals as you doing things you like together is the #1 way to have fun in EVE. You will like the game much more, you will be tempted to play more and help build your new corporation. Meanwhile in your old corporation a place frees up for another person who will align with their goals more than you do. All three parties benefit: the old corp, the new corp, and you as well. |
Nicen Jehr
The Scope Gallente Federation
37
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Posted - 2012.12.17 02:11:00 -
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Brego Taba wrote:I really want to push the envelope a bit and find some battles that are challenging, so I go into lowsec, flying frigs, dessies or BCs looking to rat. Inevitably, even carefully watching local, I am being caught mid rat fight by pvprs, webbed scrammed and killed. Thoroughly locked down and feeling stupid.
use dscan to keep an eye on your surroundings, if enemy ships get too close for comfort align out, warp if they land or you scan them within 10k. it takes a number of seconds for a ship to warp 15AU and decelerate so if you are scanning frequently enough you will have time to align and warp, even in a slow aligning ship like BC.
Or, fit a PVP fit and engage them.
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Ptraci
3 R Corporation The Irukandji
752
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Posted - 2012.12.17 02:59:00 -
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Brego Taba wrote:
Im a returning player from 2004.
Funny, your employment history says otherwise.
Post. With. Your. Main.
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Ptraci
3 R Corporation The Irukandji
752
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Posted - 2012.12.17 03:01:00 -
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Brego Taba wrote:
Im a returning player from 2004.
Funny, your employment history says otherwise.
Post. With. Your. Main.
You could I dunno, try to join a nullsec corp (not a renter corp for goodness sake). If you know how to tackle or are willing to learn you will be welcomed almost everywhere. |
Brego Taba
Sturmgrenadier Inc
1
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Posted - 2012.12.17 06:52:00 -
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Ptraci wrote:Brego Taba wrote:
Im a returning player from 2004.
Funny, your employment history says otherwise. Post. With. Your. Main. You could I dunno, try to join a nullsec corp (not a renter corp for goodness sake). If you know how to tackle or are willing to learn you will be welcomed almost everywhere.
I created in 04, returned for about a month in 07 or so, RL divorcey stuff happened, so quit again and am now back.
This is my main. Not everyone is hiding something.
And I have joined a Nullsec corp. If you had read the replies and not just the OP you would see the change of Corps. |
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