But I'm now very turned on by some sort of a "anti-bottleneck" feature for salvage. Alchemizing 4B to 1A or something like that might be an interesting dynamic, but it might also just be a annoying stop gap. Anyway, I'm thinking about it.

I like this one. The balancing of it might be tricky, but it looks (from 30 seconds of looking at it) quite easy to develop, as I don't think it requires any programming. Something i'll mull over for the next few days.

From our standpoint, we would like this to be a bit more commonplace, a bit more profitable for more people and less expensive.

But I am interested in any sort of general feedback on what the situation is with T2 rigs from all angles. The salvage (difficulty, is it worth doing, is it too much of a nice?), to Mag. sites (are they worth doing?) , production and invention.

Since the noctis exists, what that will do is make all salvage equally worthless and all rigs equally cheap within weeks. The most expensive t1 salvage is what, 40-50k a unit? Half of it is under 100isk/u.

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Now with all the above said, on the contrary, worthless T1 salvage prices will rise due to the spike in demand (*).

Yes, of course T2 salvage price's gonna dive (**), but that's to be expected - that's why I said CCP may not have to tweak the drops until the market rights itself.

Now with all the above said, on the contrary, worthless T1 salvage prices will rise due to the spike in demand (*).
Why? Because now there's a way to monetize worthless salvage, aka more demand.
The only re-manufacturing allowed is : base components -> T2 intact salvage, none other.

This is a videogame. Nobody wants to sit around for a few years for the prices to stabilize enough to make a mag site worth warping into. There is no shortage of examples of exactly that happening in this game (PI as case study #1).

Sure, of course the stuff that's worth so little it's not worth hitting the sell button. Given, however, there's probably billions of units of it and millions produced, what you'll wind up with is t2 salvage parts being near worthless. It'll probably actually be the case that t2 rigs will be cheaper than t1.

How is "make it less random, more player controlled" more sand-boxy?

Make it more like mining. So that you aren't getting random loot here, but that you are in control (based on market needs) that you go and get Salvage X, which you know comes from Wreck Y.

I think that is more Sand-boxy than how it is currently.

How is "make it less random, more player controlled" more sand-boxy?

Thought about this quite a bit last night. And I don't think there is any sort of silver bullet that will fix all of the issues.

The biggest problem I'm seeing are the imbalance of the rigs and the randomness of the drops, leading to stockpiles of crap and shortage of the good stuff.

What is brilliant about mining is that you know exactly what you are getting. If prices of trit goes up, everyone goes mining veldspar, as it's a steady source of Trit and easy to get. This leads to reduced price and less people mine veldspar.

The key there, is that it is perfectly balanced by the demand of the market. If there is a demand for Trit, you go and get it. There is no bottleneck other than how much you can get in a day, so the bottleneck is just people doing mining.

On the salvaging side, the building blocks are too racially themed.

I tried to reply to this a few hours ago, but the forums were down and I lost my eloquent well-written post. So this is a summary:

Salvage itself, the drop rates and amounts that go into rigs is pretty complicated and can have some unintended consquences. TBH, I don't think it's too bad right now the way it is.

There are some easy fixes that will help the value of mag sites though, some of which you already touched on. These should be done asap:

1) All rig size bpcs drop from mag sites (seriously, when were rigs changed and it's taken this long to address such an obvious bug??). Perhaps add rare BPCs with more than 2 runs.

2) Make Data Interfaces more like R.A.M. with a limited number of uses before they are used up and a new one needs to be bought. Suddenly all those random bits that drop and the Interface BPCs have value. Make the Interfaces have somewhere between 200 and 500 runs each. This adds a marginal cost to inventors, while adding value to mag sites. It's always seemed kind of stupid to me that an inventor needs to only buy one of each Interface, ever.

3) Make some new, harder, more lucrative mag sites with a much higher chance of T2 salvage. This will increase supply for those willing to take the risks.

See how these changes wash out before messing with salvage requirements of rigs or other major things. Exploration is not mining. Please don't try to make it more like mining.

Make it more like mining. So that you aren't getting random loot here, but that you are in control (based on market needs) that you go and get Salvage X, which you know comes from Wreck Y.

I think that is more Sand-boxy than how it is currently.

Like scripts for salvagers.

That would also help with 0.0 industry space where local rats drop only limited salvage and regions are forced to buy rigs from hi sec.

Certain rats still could have more chance to drop certain pieces not to make all space/npc equal.

For example sansha rat have 50% to drop tritanium bar where gurista only 20% if use that script.

But I am interested in any sort of general feedback on what the situation is with T2 rigs from all angles. The salvage (difficulty, is it worth doing, is it too much of a nice?), to Mag. sites (are they worth doing?) , production and invention.