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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
2789
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Posted - 2012.12.03 21:27:00 -
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I think a lot of people are forgetting that Dec Shield will no longer be able to trap people in mutual war decs' after tomorrow... unless they want to be of course. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
Gibbo3771
AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse
282
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Posted - 2012.12.03 21:27:00 -
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Meh, couldnt care less.
Tbh hope it crash and burns.
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Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
16
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Posted - 2012.12.03 21:34:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:Rordan D'Kherr wrote:2/10 stealth decshield advertisement thread again. Wait, I guess I should read the rest of the thread more closely. Are there some people who actually think they dropped because they wanted FEWER war decs?
If they do they're dumber than the average dumb, anyway, keep nice stuff going RvB or whatever you'll call it after.
Keep us updated so those of us who enjoy what does for the community and young players, keep spreading your corps/alliance names to young pilots. Keep the good work guys and have fun!
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Green Gambit
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
2
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Posted - 2012.12.03 21:36:00 -
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You all realise that there's nothing to see here?
Red Fed - the corp - that everybody actually belongs to - still exists... so the war still goes on...
RvB worked fine for a couple of years with only the corporations, the only reason the alliances were created were so that RvB could play in the Alliance Tournament.
In fact RvB's preference would be for a Purple alliance, but game mechanics are such that you can't be at war with another corp in your alliance.
So, end result is likely to be a new holding corp so that Red can enter next year's Alliance Tournament - plenty of time to sort that out.
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The Zerg Overmind
Rule Reversal Dec Shield
491
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Posted - 2012.12.03 21:45:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:I think a lot of people are forgetting that Dec Shield will no longer be able to trap people in mutual war decs' after tomorrow... unless they want to be of course. We're not entirely clear on whether or not we'll be able to keep everyone trapped. Nearly all the communication from CCP is ambiguous with their answers regarding this.
If the patch is as described in the patch notes without any changes, then this is the method we'll use, and you'll all still be trapped.
But earlier today a dev posted in the thread saying that we might be surprised that things got fixed. But I'm not sure if he's talking about their patchnotes that they "think" fixed things, or if they actually changed something not in the patchnotes. Such as splintered copies of wars inherit their parent war's starting time instead of the time the splinter was made.
It's too soon to tell. It'll be fun either way Burn Highsec Griefers |
Mizhir
Red Federation
543
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Posted - 2012.12.03 21:45:00 -
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Mr Pragmatic wrote:Zerg Overmind, please continue to ruin whole alliances. You are my hero. I only wish I could be part of your nefarious operation.
Sorry for bursting your bubble. But if you have read our answer you will realize that we are hardly affected by this. If you are having Smurf problems I feel bad for you son I got 99 problems but a Blue aint one.
Dude, where is my alliance? |
The Zerg Overmind
Rule Reversal Dec Shield
491
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Posted - 2012.12.03 21:47:00 -
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Green Gambit wrote:You all realise that there's nothing to see here?
Red Fed - the corp - that everybody actually belongs to - still exists... so the war still goes on...
RvB worked fine for a couple of years with only the corporations, the only reason the alliances were created were so that RvB could play in the Alliance Tournament.
In fact RvB's preference would be for a Purple alliance, but game mechanics are such that you can't be at war with another corp in your alliance.
So, end result is likely to be a new holding corp so that Red can enter next year's Alliance Tournament - plenty of time to sort that out.
There was an RvB - Purple Alliance and then you guys whined to GMs about them impersonating you and forced CCP to change their name. When infact all they were doing was maintaining wars against both Red and Blue side, to allow a 3rd party to enter the conflict with twice the targets. Burn Highsec Griefers |
James Amril-Kesh
RAZOR Alliance
1389
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Posted - 2012.12.03 21:50:00 -
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Aurelius Valentius wrote:Random McNally wrote:I have to confess, us Reds are taking this as "business as usual". We're still having fun with our blue counterparts.
Nothing to see here, move along.
However Zerg, you should stop over in "..."vB territory for beverages and such. Bring something shiney.
Pfft, what am I saying, you'd never fly out to our neck of the woods, would you? I like that: "..." Federation v. Blue Republic! can you use "..." in a corp name? If not I vote: Ham v Bacon This is where Ham is the newer kind of meat that seeks to dominate the dinner plate with a zingy kind of pinapple taste and the cheap end with things like spamm... and bacon is a more canadian style of meat seeking to domainate the plate by being ever so tastly on just about anything but with a higher fat content and more sodium. Or if you into chicken... definitely: TENDERS v. NUGGETS! and then there is: Amaranth Federation Auburn Federation Carmine Federation Cerise Federation Chestnut Federation Dark Red Federation Electric Crimson Federation Flame Federation Folly Federation Fuchsia Federation Magenta Federation Raspberry "this would give new meaning to giving the rasp to the blues" Federation Red-Violet Federation "you could play on word with this with Red-Violent Federation..hehe Rose Federation Rosewood Federation Terra Cotta Federation "Feels very Italian" Tuscan Red Federant "and even more so" Wine Federation Scarlett Federation Cardinal Red Federation Vermillion Federation Crimson Federation Alizarin Crimson Federation Maroon Federation Bungundy Federation Ruby Red Federation Lust Federation Rusty Red "perhaps the Minmatar portion of it" Federation Fire Engine Red Federation Cornell Red "E-Uni recruits" Federation Redwood Federation Fire Brick Federation OU Crimson Federation Dark Red Federation Barn Red Federation and then the matching blue options Air Force Blue Republic Air Superiority Blue Republic Alice Blue Republic Azure Blue Republic Baby Blue Republic Blue de France Republic Blue Republic Blue-Gray Republic Bondi Blue Republic Brandeis Blue Republic Cambridge Blue Republic Carolina Blue Republic Celeste Republic Cerulean Blue Republic Cobalt Blue Republic "very pretty +1 for this one" Columbia BlueRepublic Cornflower Blue Republic Cyan Republic Dark Blue Republic Deep sky Blue Republic Denim Blue Republic Dodger Blue Republic Duke Republic Egyptian Blue Republic Electric Blue Republic Eton Blue Republic Federal Blue Republic Glaucous Blue Republic Electric Indigo Blue Republic Indigo Blue Republic Internation Klein Blue Republic Iris Blue Republic Light Blue Republic Majorelle Blue Republic Maya Blue Republic medium Blue Republic Midnight Blue Republic Navy Blue Republic Non-photo Blue Republic Oxford Blue Republic Palatinate Blue Republic Periwinkle Blue "Oh so that is what that is" Republic Persian Blue Republic Phthalo Blue Republic Powder Blue Republic Prissian Blue Republic Royal Blue Republic Sapphire Blue Republic Sky Blue Republic Steel Blue Republic Teal Tiffany Blue Republic True Blue Republic Tuffs Blue Republic Turquoise Blue Republic UCLA Blue Republic Ultramarine "PERFECT" Blue Republic Violet Blue Republic Yale "Booooooo!!!" Blue Republic Zaffre Blue Republic You spent a lot of time on this, didn't you? -áObjects in mirror are redder than they appear. |
Green Gambit
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
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Posted - 2012.12.03 23:36:00 -
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The Zerg Overmind wrote:There was an RvB - Purple Alliance and then you guys whined to GMs about them impersonating you and forced CCP to change their name. When infact all they were doing was maintaining wars against both Red and Blue side, to allow a 3rd party to enter the conflict with twice the targets.
LOL how to completely miss the point. A third party alliance called "Purple" is not the same as having Red and Blue under the same alliance. RvB would prefer to field a single alliance team for AT, therefore a purple alliance.
As I stated originally RvB doesn't especially care about alliances for day-to-day operations, we just need alliances to enter the _Alliance_ tournament. |
Surfin's PlunderBunny
The Python Cartel.
3919
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Posted - 2012.12.03 23:40:00 -
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Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote:Luc Chastot wrote:I vote for Cheese vs Wine. Why not "Whiskey vs Bourbon" ?
The answer is Bourbon
Green Gambit wrote:The Zerg Overmind wrote:There was an RvB - Purple Alliance and then you guys whined to GMs about them impersonating you and forced CCP to change their name. When infact all they were doing was maintaining wars against both Red and Blue side, to allow a 3rd party to enter the conflict with twice the targets. LOL how to completely miss the point. A third party alliance called "Purple" is not the same as having Red and Blue under the same alliance. RvB would prefer to field a single alliance team for AT, therefore a purple alliance. As I stated originally RvB doesn't especially care about alliances for day-to-day operations, we just need alliances to enter the _Alliance_ tournament.
Oh god I think I know the guy that started that o\ "Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff-á |
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DrunkenNinja
Sefem Ortus Swift Angels Alliance
18
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Posted - 2012.12.04 00:01:00 -
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Wow, stealing alliance's names is OP. |
xxVastorxx
The Scope Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2012.12.04 00:36:00 -
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The Zerg Overmind wrote:The infamous Red vs Blue permanent alliance wars have just ended. Red Federation has disbanded. "The bill was not paid. But there is enough ISK to cover the bill. Not sure what happened. Will petition. "It is possible that something has gone sideways. My records show their alliance disbanded at 11:13 last night, which was probably during the downtime. Auto-billpay probably failed due to lack of isk at the time. Or more likely they flatout didn't have auto-billpay on, and neglected to pay the bill, thus rightfully disbanding the alliance. That's why you should never trust auto-billpay, and always pay the alliance maintenance bill manually. The "RvB - Red Federation" name has been impounded by Dec Shield as a result. We will consider selling the name back, for offers somewhere in the 25bil range. Del DelVechio wrote:As Alliance Executor, I can attest that there was enough ISK to cover the payment. Perhaps the Auto-pay got turned off or perhaps there was a bug. Either way we really don't care as long was we have explosions, which we do. If CCP doesn't give us back the name, I will offer 1 crap fit Rifter for it, thats what its worth. Otherwise, we can come up something else, perhaps more creative.
There is nothing to see here, move along.
Del
they dont need to make a new red fed, heck its time for green and orange fed
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oien cabrereas
Red Federation
6
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Posted - 2012.12.04 00:51:00 -
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Vanilla vs Chocolate let the war begin xD |
Amarra Mandalin
The Scope Gallente Federation
409
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Posted - 2012.12.04 12:13:00 -
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Ivy Romanova wrote:I guess the Mayans were right after all.
First we lost the tech moons , now we lose RvB. Next, the Jita market collapse. Corps are disbanded and people make run for the hills as Goonswarm makes their final push towards Galactic domination .
REPENT PEOPLE!
THE END IS NIGH!
I came back to Eve for this?
Red Fed has been reduced to Cheese?
I think I'll slit my bio-hazard suit now.
Wait. Cheese is good.
Glad to see Eve is functioning abnormally as usual. Missed it...I think.
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Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
791
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Posted - 2012.12.04 12:14:00 -
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xxVastorxx wrote:The Zerg Overmind wrote:The infamous Red vs Blue permanent alliance wars have just ended. Red Federation has disbanded. "The bill was not paid. But there is enough ISK to cover the bill. Not sure what happened. Will petition. "It is possible that something has gone sideways. My records show their alliance disbanded at 11:13 last night, which was probably during the downtime. Auto-billpay probably failed due to lack of isk at the time. Or more likely they flatout didn't have auto-billpay on, and neglected to pay the bill, thus rightfully disbanding the alliance. That's why you should never trust auto-billpay, and always pay the alliance maintenance bill manually. The "RvB - Red Federation" name has been impounded by Dec Shield as a result. We will consider selling the name back, for offers somewhere in the 25bil range. Del DelVechio wrote:As Alliance Executor, I can attest that there was enough ISK to cover the payment. Perhaps the Auto-pay got turned off or perhaps there was a bug. Either way we really don't care as long was we have explosions, which we do. If CCP doesn't give us back the name, I will offer 1 crap fit Rifter for it, thats what its worth. Otherwise, we can come up something else, perhaps more creative.
There is nothing to see here, move along.
Del they dont need to make a new red fed, heck its time for green and orange fed
Pink and neon green tbfh. AFK-cloaking in a system near you. |
Ludi Burek
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
200
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Posted - 2012.12.04 12:41:00 -
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Cowboys vs Indians |
Lady Ayeipsia
Red Federation
435
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Posted - 2012.12.04 13:10:00 -
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Tastes great vs less filling.
The funniest part... Last night due to Dec shield mechanics... Red fed declared war on RvB Red fed. So we even get to go to war against ourselves! More targets! |
tiberiusric
Comply Or Die The Unthinkables
20
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Posted - 2012.12.04 14:08:00 -
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The Zerg Overmind wrote:The infamous Red vs Blue permanent alliance wars have just ended. Red Federation has disbanded. "The bill was not paid. But there is enough ISK to cover the bill. Not sure what happened. Will petition. "It is possible that something has gone sideways. My records show their alliance disbanded at 11:13 last night, which was probably during the downtime. Auto-billpay probably failed due to lack of isk at the time. Or more likely they flatout didn't have auto-billpay on, and neglected to pay the bill, thus rightfully disbanding the alliance. That's why you should never trust auto-billpay, and always pay the alliance maintenance bill manually. The "RvB - Red Federation" name has been impounded by Dec Shield as a result. We will consider selling the name back, for offers somewhere in the 25bil range. Del DelVechio wrote:As Alliance Executor, I can attest that there was enough ISK to cover the payment. Perhaps the Auto-pay got turned off or perhaps there was a bug. Either way we really don't care as long was we have explosions, which we do. If CCP doesn't give us back the name, I will offer 1 crap fit Rifter for it, thats what its worth. Otherwise, we can come up something else, perhaps more creative.
There is nothing to see here, move along.
Del
You do realise that if there was a problem CCP will just reset 'as was'
Also they can just create RvB - Red Alliance or something ( i dont think they are too precious about kb stats history) - nice try though |
Ryhss
Proposition Thirteen The Third Rail
50
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Posted - 2012.12.04 17:47:00 -
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DrunkenNinja wrote:Wow, stealing alliance's names is OP. ....and stupid. I have been known to spam trade windows with spammers of Jita. It is quite satisfying when they convo you screaming about reporting me for it. It normally provokes me to open another trade window with them. |
The Zerg Overmind
Rule Reversal Dec Shield
493
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Posted - 2012.12.04 20:21:00 -
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tiberiusric wrote: You do realise that if there was a problem CCP will just reset 'as was'
Also they can just create RvB - Red Alliance or something ( i dont think they are too precious about kb stats history) - nice try though
I find it highly unlikely CCP will reset things to how they were. There have been many instances of such things happening, towers illegitimately falling offline, being killed and taken by enemies. Alliances disbanding and being stolen, etc. The only types of changes that they roll back are illegitimate ship losses. I am curious to see what their ruling on this will be Burn Highsec Griefers |
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Aurelius Valentius
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
219
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Posted - 2012.12.04 23:25:00 -
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OP is not in the spirit of EVE-mas... and since no snowballs I guess EVE is going Grinch - OH NOs!
Personally it sounds like a non-issue with the corps and the eternal war... now, on the note of my extensive research into alternate names, I demand the RVB convert everything to:
Dark Red Federation of Doom and Dark Blue Republic of Meanie Pants with similar holding companies, and then the whole thing under the Ultra-Spectral Rainbow Alliance of Ponies and Nuclear Devastation.
...or something else off my list if this isn't cool enough. Look at all the Macks in local...impressive...very impressive...I see you have fashioned a new exhumer...much like you father's... your skills as a miner are now complete...indeed you are powerful as CCP Devs have foreseen. <- 204 people are obviously confused. |
galenwade
Red Federation
58
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Posted - 2012.12.04 23:48:00 -
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Aurelius Valentius wrote:OP is not in the spirit of EVE-mas... and since no snowballs I guess EVE is going Grinch - OH NOs!
Personally it sounds like a non-issue with the corps and the eternal war... now, on the note of my extensive research into alternate names, I demand the RVB convert everything to:
Dark Red Federation of Doom and Dark Blue Republic of Meanie Pants with similar holding companies, and then the whole thing under the Ultra-Spectral Rainbow Alliance of Ponies and Nuclear Devastation.
...or something else off my list if this isn't cool enough.
I don't think we can be bothered..... since the drop/change we are still shooting each other just as much
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Amarra Mandalin
The Scope Gallente Federation
410
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Posted - 2012.12.05 05:13:00 -
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galenwade wrote:[quote=Aurelius Valentius]OP is not in the spirit of EVE-mas... and since no snowballs I guess EVE is going Grinch - OH NOs! I don't think we can be bothered..... since the drop/change we are still shooting each other just as much
True Story. I forgot to turn on Fraps though when passing through Jose.
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The Zerg Overmind
Rule Reversal Dec Shield
507
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Posted - 2012.12.07 07:30:00 -
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"#rvbeve Red alliance was "closed incorrectly" according to CCP. Will be getting fixed once they have the bandwidth. #tweetfleet #eveonline"
I don't know who this guy is, but this got linked to me. Of course, it'd be a shame if you could never use the name because we found a new method to keep you permanently trapped in war Burn Highsec Griefers |
dexington
Push button receive bacon
241
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Posted - 2012.12.07 07:40:00 -
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2012-12-07 01:18 : Corporation RvB - RED Federation has left alliance Dec Shield
Did they get the name back? GÇ£The best way to keep something bad from happening is to see it ahead of time, and you can't see it if you refuse to face the possibility.GÇ¥ |
The Zerg Overmind
Rule Reversal Dec Shield
509
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Posted - 2012.12.07 07:50:00 -
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dexington wrote:2012-12-07 01:18 : Corporation RvB - RED Federation has left alliance Dec Shield
Did they get the name back? No, I was using it as a wardec flipping corp for this scheme. But evidence indicates that scheme will no longer work. It'll be part of Dec Shield again shortly where it'll sit until the matter is resolved. Burn Highsec Griefers |
Ritsum
Perkone Caldari State
44
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Posted - 2012.12.07 08:39:00 -
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"NA" vs "EU" you know everything boils down to that in the end. I am a proud High Sec Pve player. Got a problem? |
Marlona Sky
D00M. Northern Coalition.
2211
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Posted - 2012.12.07 09:24:00 -
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The Zerg Overmind wrote:dexington wrote:2012-12-07 01:18 : Corporation RvB - RED Federation has left alliance Dec Shield
Did they get the name back? No, I was using it as a wardec flipping corp for this scheme. But evidence indicates that scheme will no longer work. It'll be part of Dec Shield again shortly where it'll sit until the matter is resolved. Of course, reimbursing the alliance name does not fit with CCP's normal behavior for these types of events. We've seen this sort of thing before, such as during a patch a while back all reinforced towers snapped to an offline state. A hostile fleet came and destroyed an NC tech moon, then towered the moon and began mining themselves. CCP reimbursed the tower and mods to the NC, but didn't turn over the moon or lost tech. The analogy to this situation would be to reimburse you the 1bil for the alliance, but not to take the name from me. The offending party wins. You cannot rely on CCP to fix things for you, you need to proactively move forward and accomplish your goals at any cost. The games is constantly moving forward and CCP are very reluctant to try rolling things back as a policy. I know you guys are trying to spin all the arguments about me impersonating you, and trying to get me banned. But I've been nothing but open and public about my new acquisition. I don't expect your arguments to hold. Sometimes the supervillain wins. Has ?vB made you an offer for the name back yet?
Remove local, structure mails and revamp the directional scanner! |
The Zerg Overmind
Rule Reversal Dec Shield
512
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Posted - 2012.12.07 09:30:00 -
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Marlona Sky wrote:Has ?vB made you an offer for the name back yet? Nope. They have no intention of meeting any ransom demands as a matter of pride.
Btw, are any other NCDot corps planning to leave alliance? Are you guys planning to reform in a new alliance? Because I've got some bad news for you... Burn Highsec Griefers |
The Zerg Overmind
Rule Reversal Dec Shield
513
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Posted - 2012.12.07 12:33:00 -
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooOOOOOOOOoooo
Burn Highsec Griefers |
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